shafique wrote:shafique wrote:I disagree with you and Craig - and agree with Kung that God is the same and that He loves all creation I including sinners.
If God is the same, then His attributes did not change from when Jesus was praying to God to when Muhammad did the same.
God whilst loving all creation also diapproves of acts that hurt his creations. A mother will tell a child that she will not like children who misbehave or play with fire - ultimately to prevent them from hurting thmselves.
God says in the first verse of the Quran that He loves all creation - this is His attribute of Rahman.
Do you need to look up what QED stands for?
Another post that could be deleted - quoting yourself, no less.
In any event - can you confirm that there is no passage in the Koran where allah says that he loves disbelievers or sinners?
I'll take your non-answer as confirmation that there is no passage which says that.
That would also have to ignore the contradictory passages in the Koran where allah is clear that he does *not* love disbelievers and sinners.
Anyways, I have to repeat my earlier claim that I have never heard someone who is truly loving tell another person (especially a child) that they will no longer love that person anymore if they do not do what that someone wants out of them.
To me, that was the entire point Dr. Craig was making. Thank you for encapsulating Dr. Craig's previous point by using an analogy of a mother who tells her children that she will no longer love them if they do not do or believe what she tells them to.
The fact that you used such an analogy, tells me that you, also, have an imperfect and incomplete understanding of morality and that this understanding comes from what the Koran says - that one should not unconditionally love others.