Guilty Of Murder Ot Not?

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Guilty of Murder ot Not? Jan 26, 2009
People, you all know of the case of the local who ran over the 52 year british woman last year. Well it now seems, (as seen in the papers of late) that his lawers are trying to get him off the hook by stating that "he only intended to scare the woman".

Quoting Gulf news:-
" "My client didn't have the time to plan for a murder. It's a case of accidental death and we dismiss the Public Prosecution's uncorroborated charges of premeditated murder and attempted murder," argued Bin Suwaidan. "He did not have any premeditated intentions as there was no acquaintance or relation between him and the victim and what happened was due to a provocative argument between U.A. and the husband& this is an accident like any other."

Well, intending to scare or not - fact is she died during his antics. And is a murder a murder only if it is planned? If there is a fight between two people and one dies, isn't the other guilty of murder?

It will be a real pity and poor example if this guy is let off. And I've seen in other countries - several times a ruling in one case sets the precedent for similar cases in the future. If this guy is let off, everyone will cite this case and get try to get off the hook.

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http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/Police_and_The_Courts/10278863.html

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Jan 26, 2009
Depends if the case is treated like the US: 1st degree murder (pre-meditated) or 2nd degree murder (non pre-meditated)

It was no accident, he killed her. Halas. Guilty.

:( :( :(

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even if he was trying to scare the women ..ppl lives are not a game to play with ..he is gulty ..that women didnt do anything to him ..
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Jan 26, 2009
Dubai Knight wrote:Depends if the case is treated like the US: 1st degree murder (pre-meditated) or 2nd degree murder (non pre-meditated)

It was no accident, he killed her. Halas. Guilty.

:( :( :(

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Amen - Guilty as charged
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Jan 26, 2009
Geez Gulf News are crap! 7 Days had that angle of the story about 6 weeks ago! The court threw out his claim and jailed him anyway!
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Jan 26, 2009
you sure the appeal was kicked out? so they stuck to the 10 year sentence??
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Jan 26, 2009
Yup!
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Chocoholic wrote:Yup!


WTG great news
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Jan 26, 2009
Dubai Knight wrote:Depends if the case is treated like the US: 1st degree murder (pre-meditated) or 2nd degree murder (non pre-meditated)

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Well his defense is saying 3rd degree murder (unintential homicide/accidental death)
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Jan 26, 2009
K-Dog wrote:Well his defense is saying 3rd degree murder (unintential homicide/accidental death)


Does "manslaughter" have different meaning?
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Jan 26, 2009
Manslaughter is a 3rd degree homicide.
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Jan 26, 2009
whats 2nd degree then?
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Jan 26, 2009
DK describes it correctly in his post. (1st and 2nd degree). 3rd degree is manslaughter e-g if your invloved in an auto accident and somebody dies.
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Jan 26, 2009
Oh come on! It was premeditated! The guy drove over her twice deliberately. There are 3 witnesses to his act! He's guilty as hell, never mind 10 years, he needs to rot for life.
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Jan 26, 2009
I hope the same treatment that alcoholic suggests for this person is suggested for her compatriots who've murdered and invaded millions of people and their countries.
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Jan 26, 2009
You been listening to paul weller and the Jam, bungle
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busa wrote:You been listening to paul weller and the Jam, bungle


Decadent, homosexual, alcoholic, blah, blah, blah, incestuous, blah, blah, blah, western, blah blah, blah...music!

Mumblingbangabumboy thinks The Jam is what he has on The Bread.

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K-Dog wrote:DK describes it correctly in his post. (1st and 2nd degree). 3rd degree is manslaughter e-g if your invloved in an auto accident and somebody dies.


Ah in UK we have murder ie with intent or premeditated

and manslaughter ie murder without premeditation

The case referred too here would have been classed as death by reckless driving which carries a similar sentence to manslaughter
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GUILTY. wtf is up with that??? patan/indian truck drivers who accidentally run over stupid pedestrians illegaly crossing the roads get locked up for life and includes paying blood money. why the hell should that guy be acquitted?? besides he was drunk when he hit the woman, that would be a life term sentence if an asian was found even hitting a lamp post... :evil: :x :x
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xero_ wrote: that would be a life term sentence if an asian was found even hitting a lamp post... :evil: :x :x


Heaven forbid if he hit it with a car!!!!

I hear the man sharpening the sword!

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Chocoholic wrote:Geez Gulf News are crap! 7 Days had that angle of the story about 6 weeks ago! The court threw out his claim and jailed him anyway!


read that a fresh appeal was made this Sunday 25th Jan. Strong lawyer maybe??? Hope that that lawyer also get thrown in with him for 10 years. They can run over each other inside.

Any Lawyer jokes anyone?
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Jan 27, 2009
what do you call 100 lawyers found on the bottom of the ocean??


A: A good start

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Guilty of Murder or not Jan 27, 2009
anything else would be a PR disaster for Dubai. Image the headlines across the world.
However, after a few years he may be paroled.
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Jan 27, 2009
michaeldubai wrote:
Chocoholic wrote:Geez Gulf News are crap! 7 Days had that angle of the story about 6 weeks ago! The court threw out his claim and jailed him anyway!


read that a fresh appeal was made this Sunday 25th Jan. Strong lawyer maybe??? Hope that that lawyer also get thrown in with him for 10 years. They can run over each other inside.

Any Lawyer jokes anyone?


A man went to a brain store to get some brain to complete a study. He sees a sign remarking on the quality of professional brain offerred at this particular brain store. He begins to question the butcher about the cost of these brains.

"How much does it cost for engineer brain?"

"Three dollars an ounce."

"How much does it cost for programmer brain?"

"Four dollars an ounce."

"How much for lawyer brain?"

"$1,000 an ounce."

"Why is lawyer brain so much more?"

"Do you know how many lawyers we had to kill to get one ounce of brain?"
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xero_ wrote:GUILTY. wtf is up with that??? patan/indian truck drivers who accidentally run over stupid pedestrians illegaly crossing the roads get locked up for life and includes paying blood money. why the hell should that guy be acquitted?? besides he was drunk when he hit the woman, that would be a life term sentence if an asian was found even hitting a lamp post... :evil: :x :x


from where do u get ur information..the old lady was drunk not the guy this is first..2nd there was an accident where a brit drunk guy crossed a red light killed two and injerd five persons ..he was jaild for one year and deported..
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naruto wrote: there was an accident where a brit drunk guy crossed a red light killed two and injerd five persons ..he was jaild for one year and deported..


I listen that story from another source but can't find a reference...
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