Based on these assumptions, I believe Nouman Ali Khan (who lives in the US) calls American society a hiddious society.
Oww come on. Don't get your biases standing in the way of good judgement. Nowhere in his speech he embarks on a particular society. You shouldn't arrogate it to yourself or to any nation.. He points out direct problems arising in astray communities we are living in, so that he has reason to combat them under Islamic guidance. This is the reason why he is addressing large audiences, isn't it?--- Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:39 pm ---
Societies however where rape is considered a crime of zina and not the violation of an individual human being is more problematic. Where gangraped women are punished for adultery, where teenagers get lashed because they get pregnant. But hey, that's just like my opinion man.
Zina can be addressed both as crime and violation of individual human rights..
If you have AIDS and you go into s.exual relations knowing you will contract the disease, could only mean malice prepense cause you know that individual will die because of your sick intent..
On the other hand it is violation of individual human right. Cause everyone has the right to stay sinless, you cannot drive people to commit sin that they will be accountable for.philosophy-dubai/will-the-wronged-ones-not-ask-for-their-rights-t43110.html
Talking to you is like talking to walls isn't it? because just on the other thread I told you that without 4 witnesses even a pregnant teenager cannot get lashed.(before and after pregnancy). Are you suffering from dementia?--- Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:51 pm ---
You both are on different pages. What you are saying will confuse him more lol. Main point is, sharia is even not relevant, like any other law it there to improve the society. I'm the type of person who sees spirit more than letter of the law more important. Because if spirit is lacking then letter can be grossly misunderstood.
I agree with you, if you want to idealize it spiritual relevance just as important for full implementation of sharia to make it a success story.. However there is nothing in the way of pragmatism isn't it? where there is insufficiency of spirituality the laws will do the self checking. if implementation of one sharia based law will abolish certain corruption or crimes against humanity than there is nothing in the way of importing it. i.e. practicing capital punishment. which is common almost in all societies..
In the old days it was the work of priests who would defend such laws in the name of justice. In these days it is the duty of political parties/leaders as well as religious scholars...