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Huffington post has a great piece exposing the spin and lies behind the myth that Muslims are waging a global war against Christians. It tackles head on the arguments put forward by career hatemonger Aayan Hirsi Ali in a recent article which eh posted on this forum. John L. Esposito, Professor of Re...

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I'm telling you AGAIN that when you work out what the term lewdness is in detail (and see that it is a wide category), your confusion will be lessened. You need to define the crime first before you worry your little head with what Islamic jurisprudence advocates for the punishment. Cheers, Shafique

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tony - I'd say that most people would understand Chappelle's point the same way you have explained. I certainly did. FD - I do agree with you that there is no excuse for a man harrassing any woman, and indeed you know that Islam teaches that both men and women should avert their eyes - and remain mo...

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BM - grow up. Stop this unhealthy obsession of fantasing about grown men you don't actually know in person

So, has eh turned up yet.. No, didn't think so.

Cheers,

Shafique

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eh, you are easily confused and are extremely gullible. You imagined that a racist, pro-EDL mob were rioting in support of rapists, all because you chose to not read what was written. Same appears to be the case here - facts are given, but you want to believe the opposite. Professor Esposito has deb...

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From a few days ago - the authorities in Germany have now worked out that 10 deaths over a number of years were actually carried out by a Neo-Nazi terrorist group. Kudos to the Germans for acknowledging the gravity and holding a state ceremony for the victims. I expect that Europol will have to upda...

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FD - stop being deliberately dense. Dave Chappelle explicitly starts his sequence by saying that women are right - dressing like a whore does not make you a whore. Indeed, you makes a similar point - someone dressing like an observant Muslim woman does not mean they are an observant Muslim woman . S...

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If you keep acting like a child and posting your fantasies about other posters - why would you think I'd change my response to these posts? :roll: Anyway, you can stop the trolling now - let's see if eh surfaces and addresses his confusion over what this racist EDL mob was actually rioting about. Ch...

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Dave was quite explicit about what he terms as a 'whore's uniform' - and how it is confusing when non-whores choose to dress that way. Not all whores wear the whore's uniform when at work, that is true - same go for Policemen in plain clothes, or undercover. We are not talking about them - but rathe...

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The word God uses is an Arabic word and you can look up the meaning in dictionaries and commentaries. When you do so, your confusion will be lessened. Then you can look at specific 'crimes' that fall under this term and we can look at what judges have prescribed as punishments for these specific cri...

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kanelli, the critique of Hirsi is that she is applying the discredited tactic of extrapolating real issues and generalising. Certainly the fans on this forum who quote her employ the rhetoric that this is what Islam teaches and what Muslims would/should do if they weren't hiding their true beliefs e...

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The punishment is for both men and women - and the need is to have 4 witnesses who witnessed the act. If someone accuses a woman of fornication and can't back up the accusation, they are punished. Cheers, Shafique --- Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:49 pm --- So the point of reference is a comedian? A comedian d...

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shafique wrote:Anyway, you can stop the trolling now - let's see if eh surfaces and addresses his confusion over what this racist EDL mob was actually rioting about.

Cheers,

Shafique

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1.) Do you consider lashes for fornicators a just punishment? Yes or No? 2.) Are Muslims according to the Quran allowed to take women as war booty? Yes or No? 3.) Do you consider a possible implementation of the full extent of sharia law in European countries in the future as positive? Yes or No? 4...

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Muslims have to disagree with you on that one kanelli - as for us these laws, and the safeguards, are from God. To me, as long as the whole law is implemented in a holistic way - they are a part of a formula that is logical and beneficial to society. It is pretty much impossible to get 4 witnesses t...

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I don't know where all the racist fellow English people live either - but I don't fool myself into thinking they don't exist.

Cheers,

Shafique

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Booty is property as a result of plunder, mainly in wartime. So you'd classify Israel's occupation of East Jerusalem, Golan Heights, West Bank and Gaza after the 1967 war as 'booty' then. I think you have a point. But the answer to your question is still yes - women, children and indeed men are all...

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Yes, they aren't the norm and are indeed recent. There are over a billion Muslims and over history the persecution of minorities is the exception rather than the norm when Muslims are in power. Persecution of Christians in Indonesia is a recent phenomenon, and in Pakistan and indeed in Nigeria. Nige...

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You really should take the time to read what is posted BM. Really - why do you keep embarrassing yourself so? Go back and re-read what I said, and let me know what gave you the impression that I believe the UK is majority Muslim, or that I'm asking for the UK to follow a law that the majority of peo...

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Are you saying that the Pakistani family in the UK also abused their child because of Biblical teachings about possession? The report just seems to be talking about human traficking and imprisonment. Did you read the first news story, or are you jumping to the wong conclusions (again?) :roll: (I thi...

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I remember when you confidently predicted that Shalit would never be exchanged for Palestinian prisoners. A then the next day or so he was. Remember that?

Cheers,

Shafique

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So several decades doesn't matter because a thousand years ago Muslims were benevolent rulers? 'Thousands of years ago' there weren't any Muslims! My point is that by all means we need to call out the repression of minorities - but it is just not factually correct to characterise the incidents in N...

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event horizon wrote:Not if those women are from societies where propositioning women is frowned upon.

Which country is it where women dress provocatively and don't expect to be propositioned/chatted up etc?

Just asking - out of curiosity.

Cheers,

Shafique

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Your confusion would be lessened because you will know what the crime is that you are asking the punishment(s) for. It is a bit silly to ask what the punishments are for a crime you don't want to look up the definition of. But then again, many of your beliefs about Islam are silly and aren't remotel...

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If my brain is beyond fried - aren't you therefore silly to discuss issues with me in that case! :)e I trust that kanelli will read all of my post - even if you didn't. Now what was your excuse for confusing a racist EDL mob for one that was supposedly rioting in favour of rapists? Was your brain be...

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Which countries are they then? Seriously - do the women in those particular countries who dress provocatively do not expect to be propositioned or chatted up?

Cheers,

Shafique

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Absolutely - I was quite offended by both crimes. But what has the crime in the UK got to do with the one in Sweden?

Cheers,

Shafique

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Berrin - I think that a society should have laws which dictate what is libelous or not, but I was answering from a purely Islamic theological perspective. As for eh - interesting that he thinks he's a Muslim and answering the questions FD posed! ;) It's a shame he's still imagining the blogger-only ...

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Is Google not working in the Bible Belt? :) I guess your wait is just like we're waiting to hear from you over your numerous other topics you're confused about - such as the difference between a racist mob of EDL supporters and those supposedly rioting in favour of rapists, the meaning of a word you...

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