Iran Has Launched A Home-made Satellite Into Orbit

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Iran has launched a home-made satellite into Orbit Feb 04, 2009
Despite the international sanction, Iranian scientists have successfully launched 100 % home made Satellite into Orbit, as part of future space launch ambition. Wow, what an achievement. Link: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middl ... 49287.html

Iranian said hell to oil money if it is going to hold us as a hostage to anyone regardless. And they are relatively doing well, its kind a of blessing for them, because they’ve focused on science and technology, and the fundamental foundation of solid development to their societies, which otherwise wouldn’t be possible. Because oil money or what I called easy money tends to lure people to be reliant on others, and often lead to an easy road which doesn’t help to nurture that precious zealous and hunger for success and ambition.

Despite all the blathering and brinkmanship by some Western leaders, they do certainly respect the Iranians, because they know that they can talks the talk and walks the walk. The Iranians forced those Western leaders to listen attentively, and sit and pay good attention to their demands.

This is not the same case with the Arab countries, even though these Arab countries' oil is the primary drive that has been keeping the world economy working. These Arab leaders get little respect from Western leaders, this is very evident when it comes to Israel and Palestine. How many times have the Arab leaders asked for those Western leaders’ cooperation, just to be turned down, or how many times have those Arab leaders have proposed peace solutions to the UN, just to be blocked by the only countries whom fully reliant on their oil.

Not to mention, some of those Western leaders have successfully managed to manipulate and made those Arab leaders believed that Iran is a major threat to them, thus, they need their protection and need to spend trillions of money to buy their weapon. However if you think about, Iran hasn’t attack no one, in fact it is the other way around, the US was the one who got Saddam Hussein into power and then supplied him with everything he needed to attack Iran and maintained 8 years war with them, in which millions from both side have lost their lives. But when the war was over, Saddam turned to the American and said, Kuwait is a province of Iraq, the American said, no son, that wasn’t what we trained you to do, as Saddam repelled, the Amarican worked tirelessly to get him out in which they eventually succeeded. It’s the same scenario with Bin Laden and the Mujahideens during their fight against the Russia, which they now causing major dilemma to the American and have no idea on how to eliminate them or at least to get them to stop their activities.

Two reasons why some Western leaders especially the US are edgy about Iran’s advancement:
1: They scare for Israel as it’s their launch pad in the Middle East.
2: Worry that Iran might successfully works with those Arab oil producing countries, and therefore affect theirs interests and relationship with them.

The images we have been bombarded with by the Media about Iran are: Iran is a belligerent sate, gives no right to women etc. Well, guess what, Iran is a democratic country, women are allowed to hold any government positions as they wish to, in fact large number of women are MP. Jewish people constitute only just over 200000 people but yet they have two representatives in the Parliament.
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I have respected IRAN for a long time. Being isolated for the world trade of all kind especially in the technology field they have been advancing them selves in all field despite most of the world pressure on them. not only that but they are moving in a fast based and all of this progress is being accomplished without any political issues rather that the US constants Provocation and they surly talks the talk and walks the walk
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The Americans will never forget the hostage crisis after Ayatollah Khomeini took control and their failure to rescue them. In military terms it was one of the all time rooster ups and proved that the US machine was fallible. They were humiliated in public and will never forgive Iran for it.

The trade links with the old Shah were also very profitable for the US and they would love to have a 'friendly nation' (for that read 'Puppet') in place in the region.

Just remember to call them Persian!

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True DK
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money and political needs changes everything. Just wait for the new US president and see his policy toward them, you never know
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the US response to the latest Iranian launching came fro the white house lastnit ... get this ...again they are claming this technology could be used against EU and Israel for lunching missiles and linked the hall thing somehow to the Iranian nuclear program ,again and the big 5 will meet in Berlin today to discuss the situation. In another meaning they are shitting in their pants LOOL .

to it's the same excuse they used to invade Iraq, don't you think
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uaekid wrote:money and political needs changes everything. Just wait for the new US president and see his policy toward them, you never know



err no he is a american why would he change? once an american always an american. that means more wars and more devastation. if he was different he would be pulling his forces out of afghanistan and Iraq. Instead he is continuing what Fuerer Bush did.
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Uaekid, brother

The Gulf should form a close alliance and good relationship with Iran. It will not only benefit both sides economically but also politically as well.
The US’s most profitable export is weapon, and they’ll do whatever it takes to create fraction between countries so they could markets their weapon - because if there were no demand for their weapon, thus, their economy will be shattered.
So you are right, it comes down to money and self-interests, the Gulf leaders must be politically savvy to protect their region and their interests, and stop letting their emotions and fears dictate their politics.
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Alhamdulillah our Iranian brothers are making our whole Ummah proud.

Only if whole Ummah were one united bloc, one faith, one goal, one military, one currency!

It can't happen overnight but Inshallah it shall happen. I hope so earnestly.

Shukraan Humbleman akhi for this wonderful news. I would've posted this but thanks for your wonderfully well written thoughtful posts.
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muslimbangladeshi wrote:Alhamdulillah our Iranian brothers are making our whole Ummah proud.

Only if whole Ummah were one united bloc, one faith, one goat, one military, one currency!

It can't happen overnight but Inshallah it shall happen. I hope so earnestly.

Shukraan Humbleman akhi for this wonderful news. I would've posted this but thanks for your wonderfully well written thoughtful posts.


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At least learn to quote properly jahil.
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muslimbangladeshi wrote:At least learn to quote properly jahil.


jahil hahahahha heheheh
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muslimbangladeshi wrote:At least learn to quote properly jahil.


jahil loooooooooool hahahahha
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Excellent achievement by Iran. They have to be admired for being able to stand on their own.

Ego problems, poor diplomatic negotiation capabilities and threats - this is what will take the world into another world war.
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I sort of have to question the wisdom of the Iranian government for launching a satellite that the US can take out of operation in a nanosecond. Perhaps there is some truth in the allegation that the satellite is merely a cover to develop a long range weapons arsenal?

I have to then question who they would be pointing it at?

Lets say MB (or someone like him) gets control of the button, the first thing they will do is attempt to launch at Israel. Without warning, without direct provocation, just because they don't like them. So then Israel lobs a few back. It all gets heated, Pakistan and India and Iraq get involved because its on their borders, nuclear weapons get used, World War 3 ensues.

So who starts it? Does it matter? It would most likely be the finish of all of us and there is no point in casting blame when you are looking over a radioactive slag heap that used to be a city.

The concept of total global thermonuclear war is incomprehensible to any sane and intelligent human. There are no winners. Everyone loses.

So the extremes of the political spectrum need to be marginalised and the sensible moderates keep the peace.

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Dubai Knight wrote: Perhaps there is some truth in the allegation that the satellite is merely a cover to develop a long range weapons arsenal?


Of cause it is. The first satelite in space ("melon") only generated radio signal with frequicy 1Hz. It was a signal to US only.

Iran doesn't want to be Iraq and want to avoid US invasion, no more no less... Now it's getting more and more difficalt...
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DK - this is a whole balance of power issue - for which I would blame US. Everytime someone invests in a high tech attack/defence sytem, other nations see it as a threat and aim for something better. If what you say - that the satellite is merely a cover to develop a long range weapons arsenal is true - what is the real cause of this?

Well, even if it is armed, at least the Iran government alone is in control of it's nuclear faciltiies.

The only country that scares me is Pakistan. Million dollar question - who really is in control of the nuclear facilities? the civilian government? the military? The militant groups? No one, even the US knows.

Even though its fingers are itching to launch an attach, I must say India is exercising strong restraint against Pakistan. - very well knowing that "anything" under the sun could happen in retaliation. This is responsibility.

This hotpsot is one of the most dangerous in the world as of today.
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hehehe in pakistan only one general controls it. the president or the primeminister dont know anything about it.

in the west nuclear bombs are activated by atleast 3 ppl who enter some codes and hit the buttons at the same time. in pak only one guy needs to hit the button :D. i guess thats why Pakistan is still there on earth :D. if it wasnt for the "islamic" nuke pakistan would have been United States of Pakistan or West India :D.
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Don’t Iran has the right to arm itself as other countries whom have been investing trillions of dollars into their military, and already have nuclear weapons.

I mean for crying out loud, Israel has one for a long time, so why is it legitimate for them but not to the Iranian. If Israel is scares, then why can’t it make peace with its neighbours including Iran?

Believe me, there are so many countries around the world who are working to develop their own technology, just watch the space.

Michaeldubai is right, the US has convinced the rest of the world that power is what make a country strong, it’s now a motto which has been adopted by almost every country.
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Humbleman wrote:Don’t Iran has the right to arm itself as other countries whom have been investing trillions of dollars into their military, and already have nuclear weapons.

I mean for crying out loud, Israel has one for a long time, so why is it legitimate for them but not to the Iranian. If Israel is scares, then why can’t it make peace with its neighbours including Iran?

Believe me, there are so many countries around the world who are working to develop their own technology, just watch the space.

Michaeldubai is right, the US has convinced the rest of the world that power is what make a country strong, it’s now a motto which has been adopted by almost every country.



Every country has the right to arm itself. USA, USSR, GB & France & India all have nuclear bombs. They even have nuclear warheads which can be launched from their submarines and bombers.

USA is the big bully. it has nuclear bombs but others cant have it. if thats the case why doesnt USA disarm its nuclear warheads? it wont. till today it doesnt trust Russia :D Islam , osama and al qaeda were just excuses for USA to setup its bases around Russia. To contain the russians in the future. USA has bases in central asia including turkemenstain, tajkstan. Bases even in Afghanistan and Iraq. What does this mean? If in the future Russia shows any aggression, USA will attack it. I guess thats why russia gets bullied into doing things they dont want to do. I guess the whole world countries are like that :D.

its very simple.

"you are either with us or against us". :D so if you dont agree to USA terms and conditions be prepared to be bombed out of earth. USA has no care for british, afghanis or the Arabs. USA only thinks about USA.
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rudeboy wrote: To contain the russians in the future. USA has bases in central asia including turkemenstain, tajkstan.


Your inf. is a little bit outdated...

Kyrgyzstan Begins Moves to Close US Airbase

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-02-04-voa57.cfm

It was the last one on the territory of the former Soviet Union. So don't worry about Russians. They have been doing well so far.
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Russia has just paid Kyrgyzstan over two billions dollar and other loans to close down the American airbase, the deal was signed yesterday in Russia and the airbase to close at the end of this month. It’s a major blow to the US and its allies, because they’ll find it extremely hard to get supplies to their troops in Afghanistan.
Russia is back.
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Sorry Red Chief, I think we've posted the same post at the same time.
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Humbleman wrote:Russia has just paid Kyrgyzstan over two billions dollar and other loans to close down the American airbase,


It was an independent desision of an independent state.
Nobody paid for that. No, of cause not...

The Empire Strikes Back! What do you think, Jedi Knight?
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Red Chief wrote:
Humbleman wrote:Russia has just paid Kyrgyzstan over two billions dollar and other loans to close down the American airbase,


It was an independent desision of an independent state.
Nobody paid for that. No, of cause not...

The Empire Strikes Back! What do you think, Jedi Knight?
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sorry red chief but usa still has bombs pointing towards the red monster :D they still got loads of air bases including those in Turkey ;)
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Red Chief wrote:
Humbleman wrote:Russia has just paid Kyrgyzstan over two billions dollar and other loans to close down the American airbase,


It was an independent desision of an independent state.
Nobody paid for that. No, of cause not...

The Empire Strikes Back! What do you think, Jedi Knight?
8) 8) 8)


Hahahahaha! A good analogy!

So how did the US get these bases in the first place? It certainly wasn't by forcibly invading and setting up. Most were gifted by the state governments in return for trade concessions or financial aid. You have to look at the greed of the governors of these countries as well as the political machinations of the US government.

Its the old 'Golden Rule': He who has the gold...rules!

:shock: :shock: :shock:

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Dubai Knight wrote:
Red Chief wrote:
Humbleman wrote:Russia has just paid Kyrgyzstan over two billions dollar and other loans to close down the American airbase,


It was an independent desision of an independent state.
Nobody paid for that. No, of cause not...

The Empire Strikes Back! What do you think, Jedi Knight?
8) 8) 8)


Hahahahaha! A good analogy!

So how did the US get these bases in the first place? It certainly wasn't by forcibly invading and setting up. Most were gifted by the state governments in return for trade concessions or financial aid. You have to look at the greed of the governors of these countries as well as the political machinations of the US government.

Its the old 'Golden Rule': He who has the gold...rules!

:shock: :shock: :shock:

Knight


lol more like the govs were forced by usa. probably bush went to them give me your sweet lil boys otherwise i ll bomb you :D
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Dubai Knight wrote:So how did the US get these bases in the first place? It certainly wasn't by forcibly invading and setting up. Most were gifted by the state governments in return for trade concessions or financial aid. You have to look at the greed of the governors of these countries as well as the political machinations of the US government.


Frankly speaking It was granted by Russians themself after 9/11. And yes, those 2 states received nearly nothing against the amount that US had been transfered to Pakistan.

It was some sort of "American help" in Preference card game...
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When Uncle Sam comes a'knockin on the door, six guns a'swingin and the theme from The Good, The Bad and Ugly playing in the background and offers you a suitcase full of dollars to let an iddy biddy airbase be built in some forgotten corner of your impoverished country...what would you do?

Faced with the alternative of being branded as a member of the Axis of Evil, cut off from being able to trade with most richer countries, having your currency blocked from being traded or even being worth anything more than toilet paper even in your own country...

Take the money!

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Dubai Knight wrote:When Uncle Sam comes a'knockin on the door, six guns a'swingin and the theme from The Good, The Bad and Ugly playing in the background and offers you a suitcase full of dollars to let an iddy biddy airbase be built in some forgotten corner of your impoverished country...what would you do?

Faced with the alternative of being branded as a member of the Axis of Evil, cut off from being able to trade with most richer countries, having your currency blocked from being traded or even being worth anything more than toilet paper even in your own country...

Take the money!

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Knight



or get nuked by uncle sam :D and the british gov is USAs puppet :D puppppppppppettttttttt
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