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sniper420 wrote:Bazooka doesn't drink with INFIDELS! lol joking.

Actually, I don't sit at tables where alcohol is being served, whether there were Muslims or infidels consuming. And I don't enter bars or nightclubs.

It's Islamically unacceptable.

Being anywhere where alcohol and/or pork is served is against Islamic law. In essence nearly 99% of all restaurants in the west would fall under this category and a sizeable chunk in the middle east.

So to follow Islam to the letter in the Western world would mean one going out very little unless its to the mosque. In Canada there is pork/alcohol in nearly all the restaurants, clubs, bars, supermarkets, malls (food-courts), park vendors, sidewalk vendors (select locations), metro convieniance stores, depanneurs (similar to a "dikkan" or 711 in the States), etc....

Also shopping in 90% of Canadian clothing stores would be against Islamic law because of skantily dressed pictures of women in clothing stores.

Walking on 100% of Montreal streets in summer would be against Islamic law because of the half-naked women all over the place and outright displays of completly nakked women with vulgar poses plastered on Montreal's unlimited supply of strip clubs where in 50% of the time "anything goes"....

But thats if you wanna follow Islam to the letter. Living in the west one has to temper things underfortunatly in order to go out of ones home without having all his/her senses shut off...

I go to restaurants, clubs to dance, I go for long walks downtown on the main streets, I go shopping for clothes, etc... I don't drink spirits, eat pork, have my food touch pork, buy alchol for friends that do, gawk and the women on the street or excite myself looking at the porno pictures plastered all over the place...

I didn't say I don't enter restaurants with alcohol. That's hard to avoid these days. I said I don't sit at tables where alcohol is being consumed... and I don't enter bars, because bars were made specifically for drinking and there's no point in entering it, plus it's a place of sin.

Clubs are also avoided not only because of the alcohol, but also because of the mixing of men and women who are there to dance with each other and the dancing in the presence of strangers, especially with tight or revealing attire. This is why I don't understand the concept of the existence of "Islamic" clubs that don't serve alcohol. The concept of a club is un-Islamic in the first place.

Liban wrote:Sniper is in love with Glory and Glory is playing hard to get.... Don't get in their way David...

YUCK.SO DISGUSTING! YUCK!!! Me in love with Glory? Glory looks like a female chimp (after all is from Congo) This is Glory's real photo:


which Glory's chimp found too se*xy to resist and r*ped Glory and
and Glory is pregnant with illegitimate child. Alrite I am Iranian if u say so and I love iranian girls .They are HOOOOO-HOO-HHOT!

[quote="Bazooka"]and I don't enter bars, because bars were made specifically for drinking and there's no point in entering it, plus it's a place of sin.


Sorry to put it this way, but the whole world is a place of sin

kelly1966 wrote:

Bazooka wrote:and I don't enter bars, because bars were made specifically for drinking and there's no point in entering it, plus it's a place of sin.


Sorry to put it this way, but the whole world is a place of sin

My house isn't.

Sniper you kill me!!!

Islamic clubs??? What on earth is that??? Man thats TOTALLY hoppicritical and actually its an oxymoron if you think of it. You are right Bazooka with that.

Well our home is what we want it to be. Actually the home is one of the few places we can control and design the way we want to. So yes, we can avoid sin in the home.

Hey guys, don't get upset eachother!There is nothing to argue on that, world is plenty of places where to go and a full mix of different cultures. If we respect eachothers and accept the differences that exist accross, we will live in a better world!
I am from Italy and I see many differences here, I spent last ten years around the world and what I got from this is that people behaves and think differently but it does not mean we can not leave together...
In the next two years I would like to appreciate this part of the world and learn from it, it opens minds and make u feel part of the world, isn'it!
If u don't want to drink, fine, but please accept that other people do and accept the fact the majority of the people do today...besides their culture or origin!

Freedom is what we were given and we shall look for.

I can drink no alchoolic stuff as well though.

david wrote:Hey guys, don't get upset eachother!There is nothing to argue on that, world is plenty of places where to go and a full mix of different cultures. If we respect eachothers and accept the differences that exist accross, we will live in a better world!
I am from Italy and I see many differences here, I spent last ten years around the world and what I got from this is that people behaves and think differently but it does not mean we can not leave together...
In the next two years I would like to appreciate this part of the world and learn from it, it opens minds and make u feel part of the world, isn'it!
If u don't want to drink, fine, but please accept that other people do and accept the fact the majority of the people do today...besides their culture or origin!

Freedom is what we were given and we shall look for.

I can drink no alchoolic stuff as well though.

That's the spirit I follow david. Understamd and respect other cultures. One thing I really hate is patriotism. Too much patriotism is bad. Take for example Glory- he is from Congo and is proud of the chimps ,bananas and the rebels there. He mocks at other nation for example Iran and passes racist jokes. Actually a pro-Hezbollah (a terrorist group) contacted moi cos he thought I was an Iranian being bugged by Glory and tried to get the IP of Glory and then track down his place and then they pay a bunch of faggots and ask them to break the place and r*pe Glory (to avenge) so Glory would lose his honor. Butthey changed their plan when I told them he had alrady lost his honor cos his pet chimp r*ped him and that poor creature is pregnant!

Hizballah is not a terrorist group but a legitimate resistance force. The Israeli army is THE terrorist force in the Middle East.

are all people from Iran as gay as you are?

Glory wrote:are all people from Iran as gay as you are?

Well I aint gay but I am "gay (happy)" when I see homo ppl changing to hetero by my speeches. Well please ask the question u asked moi to Hezbollah and Islamic Republic Army of Iran. They will explain you quite well.

Hei, any woman want to hang out with me sometime this week?!

NO

laila k m wrote:NO

That's bad, women these days hang out only with WOMEN! I guess I must prepare another speech so laila would accept david's proposal.

Laila, what happen to you?! Why refusing my kind and sweet proposal?! So rude...with such a nice guy. Give a chance to a romantic and cute guy in this new city...

davide

That whole iranian republic army thing is nothing more than a bunch of Pansies
The US gonna kick there ass pretty soon as well

I for one would favor an atomic iran provided it doesn't expand its territorial ambitions on arab soil.

When I say territorial ambitions, it applied equally to land grabs and to their brand of Shia theocracy.

An atomic Iran would help against Israel because it would give us the Islamic bomb... Yes Pakistan has it too, but I don't see that country's leadership defending Islam in the slightest so I count them out.

Glory wrote:That whole iranian republic army thing is nothing more than a bunch of Pansies
The US gonna kick there a#s pretty soon as well

Yeah Yeah Go US go!

"Islamic Bomb" that is one of the most terrifying ideas EVER!!!! ANd why be sooo concerned with what other people do. If they are going to hell, than be happy it's not you. You are all the same, you preach about love and respect and so forth, but you hate so much. Mankind in all it's forms, colors, and religions is 99.8% the same as one another.


PS. Yeah, go US. G Dubya aint nuttin to fuc wit!!!!!!


I in no way shape or form agree with G Dubya about anything, but he does bring the pain!!

The Islamic bomb is not to be feared at all but is to be respected. What is lacking from the part of the west towards arabs in particular and muslims in general is respect.

What do Bush and his UK croony understand? Force and firepower. So, force is out of the question because we muslims will never attack first unless we are attacked or threatened. Firepower will deter the west from doing either of to us hopefully.

It is sad, but is the state of the world. The west started everything back during the first crusades. They are technologically more advanced now than us and have finally brought their anti-islamic ways to our doorstep. We have to defend ourselves.

By the "west" I assume you mean the US, UK, Israel? What about all the killing between Muslims? Isn't that a contradiction? Religion is probably the best and worse thing to ever happen to mankind. On one hand, it gives people a reason not to go into all-out chaos and murder and pilliage and so forth. But it gives people the false hope that what they are doing is supremely right, no matter the conseqence because they are doing it for "God". That is a very dangerous thing. The only reasons Muslims are protrayed in a bad light is becasue of the extremes that some of the groups go to. They seem to just hate everyone and blame their problems on others instead of taking a good look at themselves to find out what is wrong. Didn't God create ALL of us? Then why doesnt he do his own dirty work and kill the Jews, Christians, gays, unbelievers, etc. Why make them just to have them killed? And if that same God is advocating the deaths of his own creations, than I frankly dont want anything to do with him(or her) And how can people propose these acts are the work of God? How can one be so presumptuous as to think they know what the Almighty wants and then take matters into their own hands? SOunds like they have a god-like complex of their own. Which, of course, is completley condradictory.

Madness, just plan madness

I can't wait to hear Liban's rebutal He is a little fanatical, but I like him, he makes me think........ My hat's off to you good sir!!!

The world is full of madness. Evil is man's flaw.

Evil takes grip of the man who's faith is weak. Evil will flourish in such a weak soul. The devil is the source of evil and the devil will make man do unimaginable things like killing even his own brother.

That being said. If one follows Islam to the letter then he/she would know that killing is forbidden unless you are threatened and then only to kill the man who is attacking you.

Christians, Jews, atheists, Muslims, etc... are all God's creations. Why would He kill his own creation. The Proohet sent messangers to all the great corners of the Earth with the simple message of God. These messangers were instructed to explain to the people Islam in the hope that these people will embrace the faith. 99% of the time it worked (sometimes after a few insults and denegratory remarks from the non-Muslims). The other 1% was conflict which was initiated by the other party.

Islam does not prone killing all non-Muslims, but acheiving dialogue and understanding so that one day we can all see eye to eye. That day will bring world peace.

But I fear that the way things are going we will not see that day because bother the Bible and Quran describe the End of Time in the same eery fashion and the events are being played right before our eyes.

Well the Bible has been interpreted and re-interpreted and changed so much from what is was originally, that I find it more to be a good story than actual fact and events. From my understanding of Islam(which isn't much..sorry) the Quran has remain pretty well unchanged throughout history and was a reflection of the life of Mohammad and the way he followed Allah. All that talk about devil, heaven, hell, angels, etc. can be traced back to around the time of Constintane. It was all made up so that the rich could get richer and the poor would stay in their place i.e "If you kill me, you will burn in hell with the devil" So not only do you have to fear retrebution on earth, but now from some far away mystical being who is pulling all your strings and you are just dancing in his puppet show!

Pumpkin Escobar wrote:Well the Bible has been interpreted and re-interpreted and changed so much from what is was originally, that I find it more to be a good story than actual fact and events. From my understanding of Islam(which isn't much..sorry) the Quran has remain pretty well unchanged throughout history and was a reflection of the life of Mohammad and the way he followed Allah. All that talk about devil, heaven, hell, angels, etc. can be traced back to around the time of Constintane. It was all made up so that the rich could get richer and the poor would stay in their place i.e "If you kill me, you will burn in hell with the devil" So not only do you have to fear retrebution on earth, but now from some far away mystical being who is pulling all your strings and you are just dancing in his puppet show!

I'll dance and praise him with all my strenght... the glory is for him. Those who believed and knew God intimately will never fear retrebution on earth, cuz by then God will fullfill his promise.

Seek God, and you will know the purpose of ur living.

I understand what you are saying sweet mary. I just dont agree with modern religions use of threat and retrebution to get people to believe and worship. It should be a celebration of one's faith and belief, not because of fear of the afterlife.