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You know bm, I used to think the same thing about the word 'Paki'. I always thought what the big deal about it, until I was called a Paki by a rude british man in Dubai and it felt really awful. It's not just the word, it the hatred behind it.

Khalid, I understand what you are saying, my friend.
Even though you are a "stateless" person in the UAE, its non of your fault. The fault lies in the discriminatory system prevailing there. You have every right to strive and improve your plight by any legal means available to you, and that includes emigrating to another country of your choice.
Many countries, and that includes the USA, Canada, UK, Western Europe amongst others, have immigration laws in place, and it is of course open to you to negotiate these legally and just GO! Despite what some might have you believe here. And of course, you would not be taking any jobs away from any one, if you are good enough, you would be doing them a favour, by providing superior skills that an immigrant brings with him. And Good Luck!

Khalid021 wrote:You know bm, I used to think the same thing about the word 'Paki'. I always thought what the big deal about it, until I was called a Paki by a rude british man in Dubai and it felt really awful. It's not just the word, it the hatred behind it.

I'm sorry to hear that Khalid. Unfortunately there are lots of problems with immigrants in the UK. To be honest, if I were you, I would stay clear of Britain. it really isn't all that. Good luck where ever you end up. Would it really be so bad staying in the UAE? The grass is always greener on the other side, look to what you have in Dubai, friends and family. If you moved away, you wouldn't have those people around you.

Khalid021 wrote:You know bm, I used to think the same thing about the word 'Paki'. I always thought what the big deal about it, until I was called a Paki by a rude british man in Dubai and it felt really awful. It's not just the word, it the hatred behind it.

Funny thing is that more often than not, he would not have said it in the UK as its considered a rude word there.

However, in Dubai, chavs can get away with a bit more. One reason why many chavs love Dubai is the fact that they can be racist to people they couldnt be racist to when in the UK.

^^ I think thats it! The chavs in Dubai. Perfect explanation.

paki is not an "offensive" word. its a slang just like brit or nigga!

If it was offensive why do "paki" boys and girls refer to each other as "paki" in the west!

Similarly why do blacks call each other "niggas" on the streets of new york?


Khalid, I was born in England and I lived there for around 15 years and I hold the british passport! Despite paying TAX and despite living my life in peace, I was never considered a Brit because my color is not white!
Similarly if the UAE is not giving you a passport so what? Does the world end for you? I dont think so! I have been here for the last 15 years so I think I would know how some pakistanis especially balooshis were able to get the passports!

rudeboy wrote:paki is not an "offensive" word. its a slang just like brit or nigga!

If it was offensive why do "paki" boys and girls refer to each other as "paki" in the west!

Similarly why do blacks call each other "niggas" on the streets of new york?

I would give anything to see you walk down a street in the South Bronx and use the N word to a bunch of black guys. They would have to pick up what was left of you with a blotter!!!

I find your ignorance very offensive.

Bora, wasn't rudeboy saying that black men call each other nigga? I'm not that familiar with the US but I have heard the rappers use the word 'nigga' frequently. That's not to say I would use it to any black person, of course. I don't think he was saying he would use it.

BM, he is saying that "nigga" is slang - acceptable, not offensive. Yes, blacks use it amongst themselves, but for someone else who is not black and uses it towards a black person, is asking for a punch in the face, and then some. If you have a bunch of black kids on a train and acting rowdy, and the word nigga is being used amongst themselves, and someone not black was to step in and tell them: "you niggas need to stop" he would end up being thrown from a moving train. If RB thinks it's slang, I would like to see how it would work for him to use it freely in the US.

Aside from rappers using it in their music, comedians use that word in a skit in comedy clubs, where it is used for the purpose of comedy and not to offend, it is offensive. You may also find the black person who does find it offensive, no matter what context it is used.

There are a host of offensive words that were/are used referring to blacks.

Are we only talking about male immigrants or males seeking asylum outside their country?

Will the woman only follow to the new country and what the man wants, if at all?

Why all men at the Libyan border??????? no wimin in sight!

Do the woman not need saved from dictatorships.

or

Does freedom only follow with the man achieving it?

if I were you, I would stay clear of Britain. it really isn't all that.

I completely understand bm, that UK is now overpopulated that's why I would rather prefer going to Canada. But I do want to visit UK. I have heard that UK is a great place to visit, not to settle down.

Would it really be so bad staying in the UAE?

I do want to stay in UAE but I know there is no future here without UAE citizenship. To UAE govt. I am foreigner and can be kicked out anytime.



I actually found some british relatives I didn't knew I had. I got contacted by them through a genealogy website. My great-grandfather apparently had a second wife that we didn't knew about.Maybe he might have met her when he was serving in the British Indian Army.

When my grandfather migrated to UAE, he joined the Gulf British Army and served there till the formation of United Arab Emirates. That is why I want to visit the British archives and dig out more information about both of them.

Khalid021 wrote:

if I were you, I would stay clear of Britain. it really isn't all that.

I completely understand bm, that UK is now overpopulated that's why I would rather prefer going to Canada. But I do want to visit UK. I have heard that UK is a great place to visit, not to settle down.

Would it really be so bad staying in the UAE?

I do want to stay in UAE but I know there is no future here without UAE citizenship. To UAE govt. I am foreigner and can be kicked out anytime.



I actually found some british relatives I didn't knew I had. I got contacted by them through a genealogy website. My great-grandfather apparently had a second wife that we didn't knew about.Maybe he might have met her when he was serving in the British Indian Army.

When my grandfather migrated to UAE, he joined the Gulf British Army and served there till the formation of United Arab Emirates. That is why I want to visit the British archives and dig out more information about both of them.

Yes, Khalid I suppose Britain is a nice place to visit. Start saving up as it is very expensive, I paid £1.42 per litre of petrol on Saturday and Chardonnay is now £7.30 a bottle! Where will it all end?
Let me know where your relatives live and if you're passing through the Lake District, give me a shout! I could meet you in the pub, oh! I bet you're a Muslim, ok, we can meet in Starbucks! Oh. I forgot, we don't have them round here. We'll think of somewhere Khalid!

-- Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:44 pm --

drewpeacock wrote:Are we only talking about male immigrants or males seeking asylum outside their country?

Will the woman only follow to the new country and what the man wants, if at all?

Why all men at the Libyan border??????? no wimin in sight!

Do the woman not need saved from dictatorships.

or

Does freedom only follow with the man achieving it?

Yes. I noticed all the men at the Libyan border, not a woman in sight! They must all leave their birds at home when working away! That or they stayed behind, hoping to become the Colonel's next bodyguard.

Yes, Khalid I suppose Britain is a nice place to visit. Start saving up as it is very expensive, I paid £1.42 per litre of petrol on Saturday and Chardonnay is now £7.30 a bottle! Where will it all end?
Let me know where your relatives live and if you're passing through the Lake District, give me a shout! I could meet you in the pub, oh! I bet you're a Muslim, ok, we can meet in Starbucks! Oh. I forgot, we don't have them round here. We'll think of somewhere Khalid!

I know it is very expensive in UK but I can't start saving now as I have to finish my education. But I will go to UK for my graduation ceremony(I am studying hard) but even that might be more than 2 years away. I would want to meet my relatives there. And about meeting you, why not. I would love to make more friends there.

so glad I have a brain... and even better I use it..

It's just been announced on the radio that Saudi Arabia has sent around 1,000 soldiers into Bahrain to quell the street protests and protect Government installations

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middl ... 50647.html

The Libyan rebels (who are losing badly ) are now blaming the West for not doing enough at stopping the Libyan state in preventing an insurrection they, the rebels, are causing.

This comes after these knuckleheads kidnapped seven British military/intelligence personnel who were there to assess the situation and referred to them as 'intruders' or some pseudo anti-colonialist nonsense.

Let me clearly state where I stand in this conflict:

Go Gaddafi, Go!

Seem u r just back from Libya...

event horizon wrote:The Libyan rebels (who are losing badly ) are now blaming the West for not doing enough at stopping the Libyan state in preventing an insurrection they, the rebels, are causing.

This comes after these knuckleheads kidnapped seven British military/intelligence personnel who were there to assess the situation and referred to them as 'intruders' or some pseudo anti-colonialist nonsense.

Let me clearly state where I stand in this conflict:

Go Gaddafi, Go!

Gosh EH you don't mince words do you. I still the West can't decide whether to enforce a no-fly zone over Libya. It cant have helped when the rebels advertised that they had captured 7 SAS men. That would have gone down like the Sheffield.

UAE sent 500 (police or army ) to Bahrain, so did other gulf countries... so the answer to the thread could be yes soon...

Lets hope the fires dont spread to the uae, however no one in the khaleej is immune to trouble

the question now, whats the USA base in Bahrain role...
I have some friends there and some of them already left the country, and I heard companies their are giving passports to their employees today...
In addition Iran stated that the interference of GCC forces in Bahrain isn't welcomed...

Iran are always sticking their noses in, wouldn't surprise me if they had something to do with all of this starting in the first place. I seriously doubt the US will get involved, no need to.

Unconfirmed reports of a Saudi soldier being killed.

It's shocking what happened in Bahrein. This blows all the international trust. This had to be solved in an illuminated manner. A fast resignation (even if it would have been hard to the PM to understand that) and system change could have avoid it all and coudl have keep investments in Bahrain. PM would have entered history in a positive light. That place now can say good bye to Real Estate market. It will all come back to Europe. Already does that. There was enough time and enough exemple to prepare a wiser decision then armed forces involvement. It is a shock.

Chocoholic wrote:Iran are always sticking their noses in, wouldn't surprise me if they had something to do with all of this starting in the first place. I seriously doubt the US will get involved, no need to.

Unconfirmed reports of a Saudi soldier being killed.

yesss, finally someone who understands

-- Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:39 pm --

Bahrain is a tottaly different situation than what happened or is still happening in other arab countries, why do you think Iran jumped in calling the allied gulf forces (the Island's Armor) an attempt of invading Bahrain? and also were asking the united nations to look into matters in bahrain, and not only that, they started accusing the forces (specialy saudi arabia) of massacaring hundreds of "peacfull" protestors whle the truth is that not a single shot was fired on any protestor, simply because the protestors fleed from the scene, and let me add also that the allied forces were under joursdiction (or how ever it is spelled) of the King of Bahrain, they were there simply to restore order and prevent anymore heavy attacks wether foriegn or domestic (which there was more than plenty of). not to mention the tension that took place between Iran and the gulf countries, turkey and even pakistan, now you didnt expect that now did you? Iarn! they like to stick thier noses in other countries buisnesses specialy in bahrain, and yes, Iran has everything to do with what happened in bahrain, it goes way back, and will continue to do so. Iran likes to preach about what it dont practice. they call what happend a violation of human rights? what about the rights of the people who lived under the terror of the so called "peacefull" protestors. you dont march aginst the police and security forces and start to run them over with cars and expect to be treated nicely, you dont raid into unversities and schools and attack students and then cry about your human rights, you dont turn a hospital into terror and torchers chambers, and why start to attack the foriegn workers? i dont know. oh and whoever pushed these guys into doing what they did left the country with thier families. to Iran ofcourse. i was just realy pissed off by what the media didnt show, all what they showed was force being used against "peacefull" protests.
the King's disicion by the calling of the summoning of the allied forces restored order, saved lives, saved the country, and by god saved the whole region.

-- Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:44 pm --

and by the way, them protesting party or whatever, are, and i qoute, living better than the other 30% in bahrain, and control most goverment installations, exept the ministery of interior, and the armed forces. hmmmmmmmmm i wonder why