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shafique

I've been to Turkey - and I agree with Nucs that they are quite liberal there - and I agree that I don't think that women wouldn't come forward to report rapes any less frequently than in other parts of Europe. Indeed, by coincidence, I was watching an interesting documentary today about women in re...

shafique

So far I've never heard a woman say she is getting in touch with her desert tribe roots by wearing the niqab/burka. Well, people often lose track of where customs originate from. The neck-tie is a pretty useless piece of clothing for example - but it seems to have gone around the world without much...

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^ Well summed up Nuc. It is also interesting to see the wiki entry on the subject - it is quite extensive. These are the sections covered: 1 Groth typology 1.1 Anger rape 1.2 Power rape 1.3 Sadistic rape 2 Gang rape 3 Sexual gratification 4 Individual factors 4.1 Known victim 4.2 Alcohol and drug co...

shafique

^Are you talking generally or about this one case in Turkey? As Nucs and I have said, our experience of Turkey is that it is quite a liberal society - at least in Istanbul where I've been. Kanelli, you seem to either have more information about this case, or about Turkey in general, in terms of how ...

shafique

Nucs - there are some that ask questions because they want answers and are willing to share their views. And then there are trolls.

Note how the causes of rape have been given, but yet the focus is on trying to trip you up. It is funny to watch the failed attempts though.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

The reality is that women are visually stimulated and lustful as well. That is why Muslim men are also instructed to dress modestly and why Muslim women are also instructed not to ogle. But you seem to be obsessed with dress being a means to control animal s.exual desires. It may surprise you that ...

shafique

'No good reason' is dismissing the reasons the women gave for choosing to wear a veil, whilst knowing it is not an Islamic requirement. Nuns in wimples pretty much covered their bodies to the same extent as a burqa wearer, and yet the Bible does not say that they should. Many nuns to this day still ...

shafique

I very much doubt that is true from what is spewing out of the few Brits who post here. They are severely biased against Muslims and Islam to the point of being Fascist. I still think that it will be only the minority of Brits who won't be sickened by the crime - even many who would otherwise be an...

shafique

^My fault - I didn't see that the date at the top of the page is today's date and not the date of publication.

I don't know whether they caught the criminals.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

The story is doing the rounds on a number of websites - including the White Supremacist group 'Stormfront' who started a thread on the subject a few days ago:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t911789-5/

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Pervs and Islamophobes aren't mutually exclusive you know - quite the contrary. You seem to have tracked down the reports of the criminals, do you have a link? Edit: I found that the criminals have not actually been found: But Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "After a thorough and protracted...

shafique

If I generalised about the crime then you may have a point. However as the link to storm front ( and a number of other sites such as barenakedislam) shows, the Islamophobes are indeed making light of the story today. My posts say I think that the majority of Brits share the revulsion of this still u...

shafique

I said a few times that I support the women who choose to wear the veil despite it not being an Islamic obligation. I don't believe they are being hoodwinked or that Islam is being misused. Above all I do not share your logic that this piece of cloth is anti feminist etc. I take the women at their w...

shafique

I asked in my last post whether you were talking in general terms or about this specific case. In this specific case, all posters here are unanimous that rape victims shouldn't be stigmatised etc. There are indeed societies where there is extreme paternalism and rape victims are criminalised - it is...

shafique

I listen to the women who make their case well. They take all the credit.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

kanelli wrote:But you've presented other extreme examples before, and together they paint a stereotypical picture of Islamophobes...

Even when I say clearly that the rabid Islamophobes are a minority, as I did in the OP?

I think you're confusing me with the anti-Muslim posters.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

I'm not obsessed with it, but people in the Middle East are... Well, if they are - then I'll happily join you and tell them to get over this obsession. I'm glad you're reinforcing my quote that most people (Muslim or non-Muslim) don't dress to advertise se.xual attractiveness. Exceptions to this an...

shafique

Why would the women contradict themselves when they clearly state they know it is not an Islamic requirement to wear the veil, but a voluntary decision they have taken? You're not making much sense kanelli. The horse is dead. ;) You really need to make a better case for the criminalising of the choi...

shafique

Thanks for the explanation. As I said in the other thread - if you wish to discuss general issues, happy to do so - but please let's just be clear when we're discussing a specific case rather than generalities. As for this thread - you'll note that the distasteful anti-Muslim comments on the forum I...

shafique

How do they know they will be viewed as more virtous and closer to god? They say they feel closer to God by wearing the veil. I take them at their word that they feel this when they wear the veil. I don't agree with your implication that they feel this way because some man told them to feel this. I...

shafique

^kanelli, surely the question you should be asking Nucleus would be whether he would want to criminalise all the women who choose to dress scantily in public - or dress in ways he considers immodest - or (more to the point) to dress in ways that in his opinion reinforces the objectification of women...

shafique

^Amber alerts are for missing children.

What is it about Muslim girls you find difficult to tell them apart? Are you living in a fantasy world where you imagine little girls wear veils?

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Are the Muslim girls in the Amber alert photos wearing veils or just head scarves? :? Perhaps if you give us the links to the photos that are confusing you we can see what you are talking about. As we saw in the other thread - you do seem to be easily confused: http://www.dubaiforums.com/dubai-polit...

shafique

The question still stands - why are men so obsessed with a woman's se.xual honour that she is worth nothing and dishonours her whole family and deserves to be killed/jailed/married off? The sad point is that there are honour killings by women against other women too - so it is not just a male issue...

shafique

Shaf, you keep insisting on the criminalizing part when I have said I don't actively seek a ban. I could care less if there was a ban or not - I oppose the veil whether it is legally permitted or not. Apologies, I thought you were advocating/in support of a ban. Sorry I got the wrong end of the sti...

shafique

Here's an example of a Hindu honour killing carried out by women - this time over a girl eloping with a lower caste boy: http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article3340301.ece eh seems to be blaming religion when it is Sikhs and Muslims who carry out honour crimes, I guess by the same tok...

shafique

Interesting to read the next two paragraphs of the article: This new persecution is the result of the simultaneous revival of militant Islam in many countries. We can say that with confidence. What we can’t say, however, is that there is a co-ordinated Islamic plot to exterminate Christianity as a s...

shafique

Funny, but true.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/i ... z239xkpAKB

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

Some positive news out of Africa. The political progress in Somalia is promising - the latest is that they have held elections and elected a new President, and with the incumbent immediately accepting the decision (a small step, but significant in terms of African politics). Somalia is far from a fu...

shafique

You obviously are a firm believer in the conspiracy theory - which the author says does not actually exist. There isn't a co-ordinated plot to exterminate anyone or establish a khilafat etc - all pet conspiracies of the anti-Muslim brigade. BTW Do the 1000+ anti-semtic incidents in the USA each year...

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