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shafique

Fail.

Nice attempt at a save of face though - but Memri and you imagining the word 'Islam' when it was absent is beyond funny.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Imagining I lied doesn't really help you eh. You're the only one caught out in a blatant lie here.

But let's leave that fact to one side - how is your search for one Muslim man who has followed the stages described by God going? Still nothing?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

You really don't like it when you guys are exposed, do you? Did you really have such a sense of humour failure watching the first video? Do you understand the fact that you're still only confirming the 'guilty by association' charge levelled against your Islamophobe friend Kaufman? Cheers, Shafique

shafique

Still, despite all the smoke and mirrors - American Christians are more likely than Muslims to condone violence. And on this forum, the most extreme religious fanatic is an American Christian - you eh.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

If you had watched the video, you'd have found that Finkelstein was basing his conclusion that it was a massacre based on the facts of the massacre carried out by Israel. But I understand why it is hard to not to fall into old habits and try and slur the person rather than address the facts. Such as...

shafique

FD - the quiz does not talk about the Gaza massacre and the verifiable fact that Israel broke the truce on November 4 2008, and then proceeded to lie about it. The facts have already been established in this thread: http://www.dubaiforums.com/dubai-politics-talk/gaza-truce-who-broke-t40269.html But ...

shafique

I thought I'd post this as an example of an aberant cleric's misdeeds - and that before the resident 'critical' posters jump on this and blame the guy's religion, I point out that no religion condones paedophilia, and this cleric's crimes do not reflect on his religion. Prominent Palestinian Imam in...

shafique

BM, in this case Israel attacked Gaza on Nov 4 2008 at a time when a truce was holding, then proceeded to lie about how 'Hamas' rockets' had broken the truce when it was carrying out this massacre. Finkelstein is also not a random blogger. He has in the past cut through the propaganda from Israel an...

shafique

:D I thought my point was quite clear - that a prominent cleric carrying out paedophillia has nothing to do with his religion. Looks like the URL was just missing the final '0' in the address - here's the link, and I'll edit the original too: http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/prominent-israel-rab...

shafique

The fact that Israel broke the truce on Nov 4 2008 when the truce was holding and then proceeded to lie about 'Hamas rockets' breaking the truce during the Gaza Massacre is what the facts show in the OP of that thread. Israel didn't use your weak attempt at revisionism at the time - the CNN news ite...

shafique

Please see my previous post - the facts about the truce being broken by Israel are well covered in the other thread. Is there any fact in the Quiz that you disagree are facts? I stated in the OP that you couldn't refute any of the facts the first time I posted them, it appears to remain the case now...

shafique

What has Israel's massacre in Gaza got to do with what you recall Finkelstein saying about Lebanon? (I note this is the second time you've resorted to giving unreferenced quotes/opinions. I'm getting tired of looking into innuendos and finding your being selective with the truth or being misled by w...

shafique

We know you lied: The article said he was following the Koran. It didn't. The article says he allegedly was reciting a verse when hitting his wife. It does not say he had followed God's instructions - which is what I am challenging you to find: one real (rather than imagined) example of. Should you ...

shafique

Thanks for your opinions. They stand in contrast with the facts and images in the OP of the victims of the Israeli Massacre in Gaza.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique

There is a lot you can criticize Israel for Indeed, and Finkelstein is quite clear about his praise for Israel too. I have a feeling that the reason you haven't actually linked to an actual reference to Finkelstein's quote, that this is just another one of your usual diversionary tactics. This thre...

shafique

It appears you do agree with me that this cleric's paedophillia is not to be blamed on his religion. Excellent. I totally agree with you - the religion should indeed be judged on what it actually teaches - and not what some bloggers may post. As for your blogger-only theories about Islam, may I remi...

shafique

Sorry eh, you've lost me. What particluar 'interpretation' of Ben Gurion's quote are you referring to? I quoted him directly and referenced the UN speech it came from - giving a direct link. The Government of Palestine's survey of land ownership also makes it clear that most of the public land was a...

shafique

Should you find one real example, let me know. Your lie was not a 'fallacious question' but a lie. I asked you whether you had read the article (giving you the opportunity to admit to being mistaken in your claim). Your hypothetical questions etc have all been addressed in previous threads - as I st...

shafique

I'm not the one being selective about Finkelstein's quotations on the Gaza Massacre. The Youtube link on the site isn't working. Here is a working link where Finkelstein is talking about the Massacre and does refer to Israel as a 'Satanic State', and the context is clear - a state which carries out ...

shafique

Actually, I'm calling you out on your first statement: Perhaps thats why Finkelstein calls Israel a state of satan. A state of satan worshippers. At least in the video above, Finkelstein does not call Israel a state full of satan worshippers, but says that Israel's actions even don't benefit Israeli...

shafique

Thanks for selectively quoting me and ignoring the main question - did you lie when you said Finkelstein said Israel was a 'A state of satan worshippers.'? Or was it just a piece of sly spin? Did you want Finkelstein to be happy with Israel after he described the killing of 400 children in the Massa...

shafique

Still ignoring the main question - did you lie when you said Finkelstein said Israel was a 'A state of satan worshippers.'? Or was it just a piece of sly spin? It may not be your fault FD - you perhaps relied on a blogger for your mistaken belief? It wouldn't be the first time. Given that this was y...

shafique

B'tselem B'tselem puts children fatality at 252 No it doesn't. It is 344: http://old.btselem.org/statistics/english/casualties.asp?sD=27&sM=12&sY=2008&eD=18&eM=01&eY=2009&filterby=event&oferet_stat=during Palestinian Ministry of Health reported 431 child fatalities on 5 F...

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Yes, as I stated in an earlier post - I thought you would have highlighted this particular fact. The point is that the UN published numbers of refugees: 15. The estimate of the statistical expert, which the Committee believes to be as accurate as circumstances permit, indicates that the refugees fro...

shafique

Can you show me where B'tselem says a child is under age of 16 and that 252 of the 344 minors killed are the ones considered children? FD - you say that Israel did an 'outstanding job' and deny it was a massacre. How many children need to be killed for it to be a massacre - is 344 too few for a Mass...

shafique

I do agree with Prof Porath that the 711,000 refugee figure cited by the UN was inflated - and yes, I'd be happy to accept that the figure of refugees from the country of Palestine that existed prior to Israel being formed was around 100,000 fewer than the figure quoted. I think there were other iss...

shafique

Now there are 3 unanswered questions FD: 1. "Can you show me where B'tselem says a child is under age of 16 and that 252 of the 344 minors killed are the ones considered children?" 2. "do you think that 252 children under age of 16 is too few for a massacre?" 3. "did you lie...

shafique

Yes, I understand that this is a view held by some Islamophobic bloggers. Sadly for you it is not a theory you've been able to show exists outside of your blogger friends. At least we do agree that in this case, this prominent cleric and paedophile cannot use religion to excuse his paedophillia. Che...

shafique

eh - I asked you a simple question. What particluar 'interpretation' of Ben Gurion's direct quote are you referring to when you wrote:

event horizon wrote:according to your "interpretation" of Ben Gurion

I stated his quote verbatim, I did not offer an interpretation of it at all.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Wrong thread eh - but let me quote from the relevant thread: When it comes to s.ex, Islam is quite clear - no s.ex outside marriage, no forced marriages and no paedophillia. References to Quran , hadith and even scientific evidence in this video debunks the core loon theory eh desperately wants to b...

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