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(Also, please do not over-look the question I asked you about Hindu scriptures which talk about eating Beef - in the past) First of all the scriptures you refer is written in sanskrit. Are you a sanskrit scholar? The interpreatation you give in the post as others said, how can it be correct ? Peopl...

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In Islam, the analogy of the sun and moon is sometimes used to explain this. The moon is bright and gives light, but it does so only by virtue of reflecting the light coming from the sun. It is a pale substitute for the sun, but does provide light and totally relies on the sun. Cheers, Shafique God...

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Killing is defintely a sin, should avoid as far as possible... Ohh wooow woooww datta that's an improvement, now we should avoid killing as much as possible, so killing is definetly not a sin....Thank you brother you proved us right!... at last.... There are lot of people who are in the habit of ki...

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^and the references to beef? Cheers, Shafique Suppose I say that the purpose of creating the man is also to supply the food to tigers, lions, man-eating hunters in the forests, etc., how do you feel? Why don’t you allow tigers and lions to freely come to villages and towns and have their food? A so...

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What you think Reason for suicides in society My point... The main reason for suicide is lack of divine knowledge. By divine knowledge one can realize that the main aim of the human life is to achieve the grace of God by pleasing Him and not to achieve the useless grace of any co-human being by plea...

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Killing is a sin, right ? Then what do we eat ? Because plants and trees are also living creatures and we are effectively killing them to eat them aswell. So should we all just die of hunger ? Or eat dead foilage. Also another point, according to you it should be perfectly fine to eat any animals t...

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Please do not waste food!! Veda says that even a single particle of the food should not be wasted Donation is very dangerous like double edged knife. Donating to undeserving persons is very big sin and not mere wastage. Today, if you see the feast of a marriage function, you will find most of the pl...

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^sorry Datta - but what has your reply got to do with the references from Hindu scriptures saying that it is ok to eat beef? Let me ask it a different way - if those references are accurate, who and when was it decided to stop eating beef? Cheers, Shafique Generally people misinterpret the scriptur...

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HOWEVER, God/Nature/Evolution designed human beings to eat meat. The natural desire to eat meat also has positive benefits - protein and nutrients in meat are beneficial to man. Most things taken to excess are bad - water is a poison if too much is drunk, for example. Meat therefore should be judge...

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^Thanks, I do understand that people mis-interpret scripture. However, this general statement does not address the references to eating beef provided. May I ask again - when and who finally decided that eating beef would no longer be allowed in Hinduism? The earlier scriptures are quite clear - bee...

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Chocoholic wrote:I think you posted in the wrong thread!

I was replying to Mr. Shafique comments..

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"Veda says" When you start off with a statment like this, you loose 99.99% of your readership. And biggest question of all why should I believe your vedas ? Although I know what you are referring to but probably a lot are going who or what is this Veda ? You should analyse the statements ...

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^That is logical Mel. However, note that Datta said specifically: .., if any argument should be accepted as truth, it should withstand powerful logic and analysis. When you kill any living being , you are a sinner. Never kill any living being for food. When you kill, you are a sinner and is a kille...

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So according to your logic killing a baby is less of a sin/crime then killing a fully grown self aware man. Because although babies can feel pain but they are not self aware. Almost similar to a plant. You know a child is going to be grown to a full grown man. The human life is very very important....

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Datta - with respect, you are still avoiding the simple question: When and who changed the instructions found in Hindu Scriptures in regards eating beef? You seem to be saying that the earlier scriptures are wrong when they say eating beef is ok, and recommended. I understood that a lettuce leaf is...

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Rigveda (10/85/13) declares, “On the occasion of a girl’s marriage oxen and cows are slaughtered. ” ... Shafique Rigveda (10/85/13) declares, “On the occasion of a girl’s marriage oxen and cows are slaughtered.” --------- In the above statement, as per your quotation, it simply says that, “On the o...

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I'm not arguing about the concept of wasting food but rather your claims that its right because the Veda said so. Again why should I follow the Veda ? "Such a primary standard can be the Veda." Can be but why should it be ? No one other than you agrees on this point. So I don't see it eve...

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what you think? My point.... The actual aim of the function is also lost and other unnecessary aims are linked. The real aim of the marriage function is that the priest (Acharya) called as Brahma or Vasishtha explains the couple through the Vedic hymns, the co-operation between the husband and wife ...

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Thanks for confirming that the Rigveda does say that when oxen and cows are slaughtered at a wedding. Can you clarify who does the slaughtering and who eats the meat? Why are you not addressing all the other quotes: Manusmriti (Chapter 5 / Verse 30) says, “It is not sinful to eat meat of eatable an...

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Unless ofcourse you can prove that these verse have been altered through the passage of time but ofcourse you clearly make the point that the veda is as you say it free from pollution. So either you have misunderstood the scripture or you are trying to pass of cultural rituals as scripture even tho...

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Again you lost me on your first line "one should also take Scriptures ( Veda ) as the final approving authority" Again why the Veda ? You say its free from change or alteration, I will not argue with that fact since I don't know much about this aspect but what is the source of this script...

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So what is it saying then, just slaughter a few cows for the fun of it on the occasion. That sounds like even a bigger sin than atleast eating what you kill for food. If slauthering a few animals on a joyous occasion for public consumption if not then what, slaughter and throw them in the river or ...

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Whether to ask God or not? === My point: Do not ask any thing from God which is either related to present or future. When you ask some thing in present or some thing in the future, it clearly means that you are reminding Him about the corresponding reaction that is to be immediately implemented in t...

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You must not kill any living being for the sake of your food. The killing is the greatest sin You must not kill any living being for the sake of your food. God has given enough vegetable food that contains all the ingredients present in the non-vegetarian food. After all, the source of ingredients o...

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A new thread to discuss Islam's teachings on violence etc. ......r wily ways and treacherous guiles. They have nothing to do with religion. They are the enemies of peace. They must be combated at every level as advocated by Islam, the religion of peace. Q’ran says that a Muslim should protect even ...

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It never says that the religion should be spread by violence. Koran 8:39 - And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshippin...

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What lies beyond the boundary of infinite cosmos? ======== My opinion: The infinite cosmos [universe] itself is a proof of the existence of unimaginable God. ‘Infinite’ means that the boundary of the universe is everlasting. What is the secret of this everlasting boundary? Suppose, let us say that t...

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Whether divine knowledge can be transferred by God to devotees like miracle doing power? My opinion: It is said that knowledge is power. Knowledge is the best form of the power. Knowledge always does the greatest miracle of transforming a person in the wrong path to a devotee in the right path. Such...

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The tsunami is always due to anger of God since you are killing the living beings present in water for food. The earthquakes are due to killing of living beings that exist on the earth. Yeah, no such thing as plate tectonics, eh? http://www.scienceclarified.com/Di-El/Earthquake.html So if the entir...

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My point.. The essence of the entire message of Lord Krishna, Bhagavad Gita, is to develop the highest state in which you can be in the state of continuous enjoyment and happiness through entertainment. If you can enjoy the problems also, such continuous state of happiness is possible. The human bei...

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