Gaddafi Declares War On The Swiss - Sort Of

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Gaddafi declares war on the Swiss - sort of Feb 26, 2010
Muammar causing trouble again - and the resemblance to Michael Jackson is almost as bizare as his pronouncements. Ok, cue Sheikh Eh of the Oh who will soon inform us that Muammar is behaving like a good Muslim and that we should all go and invade Switzerland ;)

(We'll gloss over the possibility that Muammar is probably just pissed that his son was arrested there a couple of years ago)


Libya's Gaddafi urges 'holy war' against Switzerland

Muammar Gaddafi has reportedly been blacklisted by Switzerland
Libya's Muammar Gaddafi has called for a jihad, or holy war, against Switzerland, as an ongoing diplomatic row between the two nations heats up.

He criticised a recent Swiss vote against the building of minarets and said Muslims must boycott the country.

There have been tensions between the nations since 2008, when one of Mr Gaddafi's sons was arrested in Geneva, accused of assaulting two servants.

A Swiss foreign ministry spokesman declined to comment on the jihad call.

The Libyan leader made his comments while speaking at a meeting to mark the birthday of the Prophet Muhammad.

"Let us wage jihad against Switzerland, Zionism and foreign aggression," he said.

"Any Muslim in any part of the world who works with Switzerland is an apostate, is against Muhammad, God and the Koran."

In a referendum last November, 57.5% of Swiss voters approved a constitutional ban on the building of minarets. An appeal against the ban has been submitted to the European Court of Human Rights.

Charges dropped

Earlier this month, Libya stopped issuing visas to citizens from many European nations, prompting condemnation from the European Commission.


Hannibal Gaddafi's arrest in 2008 sparked the diplomatic spat
Libya's move came after Switzerland allegedly blacklisted 188 high-ranking Libyans, denying them entry permits. The Swiss ban is said to include Mr Gaddafi and his family.

The row began after the arrest of Mr Gaddafi's son Hannibal and his wife, Aline Skaf, in Geneva in July 2008.

They were accused of assaulting two servants while staying at a luxury hotel in the Swiss city, though the charges were later dropped.

Libya retaliated by cancelling oil supplies, withdrawing billions of dollars from Swiss banks, refusing visas to Swiss citizens and recalling some of its diplomats.

In the same month that the Gaddafis were arrested, Libyan authorities detained two Swiss businessmen, in what analysts believe was a retaliatory move.

One was finally allowed to leave the country earlier this week but the second was transferred to jail, where he faces a four-month term on immigration offences.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8537925.stm

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He should definitely not seek peace with the Swiss since the Koran explicitly prevents Muslims from making peace with disbelievers if the Muslims are more powerful.
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Have some sense of humour Mr. Sheik..

Koran explicitly prevents Muslims from making peace with disbelievers if the Muslims are more powerful.

This too should be within your knowledge, don't you think Mr. Sheik.. :wink:
Qur-an 60:7-9
“Allah doesnot forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who did not fight against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes.Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.It is only as regards those who fought against you on account of religion, and have driven you out of your homes,and helped to drive you out, that Allah forbids you to befriend them.”
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event horizon wrote:He should definitely not seek peace with the Swiss since the Koran explicitly prevents Muslims from making peace with disbelievers if the Muslims are more powerful.


The sheikh doesn't disapoint! :lol:

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Politicians don't you just love em. they love to preach Goa and virtuosity but in private would rather that the people though they were God's. Otherwise why would they break the rules, do what they want and then expect to be exempted from the rule of law?
I'm curious Shafique don't you at times feel that maye there are sections/pliticians who simply use God's name, play with people's emotions, but only for for their own benefit?
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Berrin wrote:Have some sense of humour Mr. Sheik..

Koran explicitly prevents Muslims from making peace with disbelievers if the Muslims are more powerful.

This too should be within your knowledge, don't you think Mr. Sheik.. :wink:
Qur-an 60:7-9
“Allah doesnot forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who did not fight against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes.Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.It is only as regards those who fought against you on account of religion, and have driven you out of your homes,and helped to drive you out, that Allah forbids you to befriend them.”


Sure is, so is this:


047:030 Did We will, We would show them to thee, then thou wouldst know them by their mark; and thou shalt certainly know them in the twisting of their speech; and God knows your deeds.

047:031 And We shall assuredly try you until We know those of you who struggle and are steadfast, and try your tidings.

047:032 Those who disbelieve and bar from God's way and make a breach with the Messenger after the guidance has become clear to them, they will nothing hurt God, and He will make their works to fail.

047:033 O believers, obey God, and obey the Messenger, and do not make your own works vain.

047:034 Those who disbelieve and bar from God's way and then die disbelieving, them God will not forgive.

047:035 So do not faint and call for peace; you shall be the upper ones, and God is with you, and will not deprive you of your works.


And different translations of the same verse:

So do not falter and cry out for peace when ye (will be) the uppermost, and Allah is with you, and He will not grudge (the reward of) your actions.


So be not weak and ask not for peace (from the enemies of Islam), while you are having the upper hand. Allah is with you, and will never decrease the reward of your good deeds.


And be not slack so as to cry for peace and you have the upper hand, and Allah is with you, and He will not bring your deeds to naught.


So be not slack and sue not for peace, for you will, certainly, have the upper hand. And ALLAH is with you, and HE will not deprive you of the reward of your actions.


Therefore, you shall not waver and surrender in pursuit of peace, for you are guaranteed victory, and GOD is with you. He will never waste your efforts.


Do NOT seek peace with your enemies if you, Muslims, are stronger than they are.
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Oh what wise words you bring to us oh sheikh - smite down all those who call your beliefs 'quaint' with your excellent cutting and pasting skills. Don't let those who accuse you of quoting out of context or of living in the orientalist past deter you, oh wise one. :P

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Let's turn context around. You quote the mercy verses and I'll say to you: "What about the context!?" and then I quote the violent verses. See? Two can play at that game.

The bottom line is that the "context" argument is a desperate attempt to rescue Islam from drowning in the ocean of Western (ie Christian) Ethical standards to which is cannot measure up.
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Oh sheikh, your excellent attempts at presenting an extreme view of Islam and forcing people to actually read the Quran and understand Islam are working wonders. The number of converts to Islam is indeed increasing in the West as you intended - by taking a deliberate extreme view and misquoting the Quran you have done wonders by encouraging people to read God's actual words.

Well done sheikh, keep up the good work.
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It seems I have a following in America's prison population.

But hey, why don't you explain to me how the verse I quoted is taken out of context and the verse Berrin posted was not.

Oh wait.....never mind. We should just believe you because you said so.
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Yes, oh sheikh, you do seem to have a following amongst the numpties of this world. As, I said, keep up the good work - I applaud your efforts to get the non-numpties to read the Quran and make up their own minds.

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OOOPS, I thought this was the religious forum. :lol:

OK, so Muslims worldwide:
Will go to airports to prevent Swiss planes from landing.
Will go to ports to prevent Swiss ships/liners from docking.
And to ALL stores to take inventory to make sure that there are no Swiss products being sold.
And no more cheese or chocolate fondue!!!!

Oh, yeah, and while you are at it make sure to withdraw all your money from the Swiss bank accounts and to show your support, deposit your money in the Bank of Libya for safe keeping.

Make sense to me. :roll: :roll:
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shafique wrote:Yes, oh sheikh, you do seem to have a following amongst the numpties of this world. As, I said, keep up the good work - I applaud your efforts to get the non-numpties to read the Quran and make up their own minds.

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They do - Abu Musab Zarqawi was a fella who had memorized the entire Koran.
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Re: Gaddafi declares war on the Swiss - sort of Feb 28, 2010
^so was he was as religious as Baroch Goldstein was, oh sheikh?

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