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two youths and a Rabbi wearing yarmulkes went walking in a primarily Moroccan neighborhood in Amsterdam. The footage showed them being subjected to a range of ill-treatment, from dirty looks to insults — and even, from one man, a Nazi salute.

shafique wrote:Are we going to get a revelation that the Pope is Catholic to go along with the stats that the lower classes in a society with the highest unemployment rate, lowest prospects etc also have higher rates of crime?

Migrant workers were exploited and abused. Cases of torture and prolonged detention without trial were reported. Women continued to face legal and other discrimination.

Amsterdam police already disguise officers as "decoy prostitutes, decoy gays and decoy grannies" in operations to deter street muggings and attacks on homosexuals or the city's red light district.
Police in the Dutch city of Gouda have claimed the use of officers disguised as apparently frail old age pensioners has helped cut street crime.

that Halaal only food was a cost cutting measure?

Also, judging by the numbers of prisoners in Holland, it is a pretty good bet that rednecks and other non-Muslims in prison in eh's home state form a greater proportion of their respective populations than of Moroccans in Dutch prisons (the one's that haven't been closed due to a shortage of offenders, that is). But I now know better than to ask eh to look up stats!

This according to the Dutch National Police (KLPD) in a study on Moroccan criminals in the Netherlands, which had not been made public until now. In total, 14,462 Moroccan criminals were included in the study, in the 181 municipalities with five or more Moroccan criminals. They make up 8.1% of the 177,487 known criminals in these places. The number of ethnic Dutch criminals is 101,437, or 57.1% of the total. Formally, the study is only about suspects: people on whom the public prosecution received a file and for which the police is 'convinced that they've committed a certain crime'.

In absolute number, Amsterdam has the most Moroccan criminals: 2,497 of a total of 14,844 arrested criminals. Taking into consideration the total population, the KLPD made up a classification of the 'gravity of the Moroccan problem'. Amsterdam is in first place, Gouda second and Utrecht third. Culemborg is in 14th place, Zaltbommel in 35th. Taking into account recidivism (the average number of crimes per Moroccan suspect aged 12 to 24), Gouda has the largest Moroccan problem nationally: the 332 suspects in Gouda commit on average 1.4 crimes a year. Using this classification, Utrecht is runner-up, the Hague is 3rd and Culemborg is in 10th place.
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shafique wrote:Total number of Morrocan criminals = 14,844
Total number of ethnic dutch criminals = 101,437

event horizon wrote:As far as the demographic breakdown of criminals in the Netherlands, it's interesting to note that Moroccans make up more than eight percent of the number of active criminals - while they are only two percent of the population.

shafique wrote:The data appeared to be the total numbers of criminals, not just those arrested in 2007.

shafique wrote:When you standardise for these factors, you will find that the Morrocans are no different from other groups within the 92% of criminals.

If you look at professional dutch people - and compare the criminality rates amongst Morrocan Dutch professionals (doctors, teachers, lawyers etc) with their non-Morrocan Dutch professional peers, you'll find that there's not difference between the groups.

Therefore in Holland, 92% of the criminals are not Morrocan. Nationality is only one factor when it comes to crime - a bigger factor is the level of income and prospects. When you standardise for these factors, you will find that the Morrocans are no different from other groups within the 92% of criminals.

event horizon wrote:What is interesting is that Moroccans make up at least eight percent of the total criminal population even though they are only two percent of the total population of the Netherlands.

Some 54% of Dutch Moroccan youths have come into contact with the police, compared with 23% of young men in general, according to research published in a criminology magazine.

Just 5% of girls have been quizzed about a crime, but 13% of girls with a Moroccan background have been questioned, the researchers say.

The researchers say it is not clear why Moroccan Dutch youth should be so over-represented in the figures, but say their low social economic status and cultural aspects could play a role.

They also point to Belgian research which indicates police are more likely to question immigrant youths than white natives.

The researchers do not say how many of the youths questioned by police are actually convicted of a crime.

Is this a reflection of the criminality of Dutch Moroccan youth, or the prejudice of the police (and society)? I would think the latter.

The following extract from the Financial Times Deutchland is interesting;
"The sad reality is: the liberal multicultural Netherlands, in which everyone can live how -- and smoke what -- they want, is largely a foreign myth. The economic crisis has only strengthened and made visible the actually conservative and at times narrow-minded tendencies in the society."

shafique wrote:We all now agree that 92% of criminals in Holland are not Moroccan

shafique wrote:So, this 54% is people stopped by police and not criminals

Belgiummoroccan" wrote:we muslims are taking over europe.there is even a shari'a court.what a blessing from ALLAH.alhamdulilah!

The number of instances of reported anti-Semitism in Amsterdam rose in 2009 from the previous year, according to government data, from 17 to 41. Discrimination cases on the basis of skin color or country of origin rose from 232 to 336 in the same period, while anti-gay cases rose to 89 from 55.

But those rises may reflect a public campaign encouraging people to report hate crimes. Hirsch Ballin told parliament Thursday police had seen no real increase in anti-Semitism.

This according to the Dutch National Police (KLPD) in a study on Moroccan criminals in the Netherlands, which had not been made public until now. In total, 14,462 Moroccan criminals were included in the study, in the 181 municipalities with five or more Moroccan criminals. They make up 8.1% of the 177,487 known criminals in these places. The number of ethnic Dutch criminals is 101,437, or 57.1% of the total. Formally, the study is only about suspects: people on whom the public prosecution received a file and for which the police is 'convinced that they've committed a certain crime'.