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Concord · Nov 27, 2007

uaebadoo wrote:
Concord wrote:
uaebadoo wrote:
HP wrote:

Is he doing enough in his own country ? Does he take care of human rights in own country ? One can question about the poor labours from poor countries , who dont get enough salaries and have to work under hard conditions in his own Country? Is he entitle to distribute the money to other countries ?

Does he take care of human rights in own country ?

The government is doing their best but we know they will never be satisfied, I assure you that our human rights record is better than most of other countries, Is it better in your country?

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You may want to check here and compare, etc.

http://www.amnestyusa.org/Our_Issues/By ... n1=3&n2=30

The one who are asking for human rights, Look what they are doing
http://www.agrnews.org/issues/278/cover.jpg

http://www.uruknet.info/pic.php?f=1741254.jpg

http://www.thewe.cc/thewei/_/images12/u ... crimes.jpe

http://files.pcadvance.co.uk/ssaw/uploa ... -%20we.jpg

http://quebec.indymedia.org/files/thumbs/16667_th.jpg

Wow, HP did all that :shock:

(as he is "The one who are asking for human rights" on this thread)

And I thought the guy just made a simple observation about labourers rights :shock:

Besides, he is from Denmark.

St.Lucifer · Nov 27, 2007

Just being pathetically Cynic.. but one shouldnt discount the political mileage and good will that Dubai would gain in the international circuit. Thanks to what money can not but charity can.

St.Lucifer · Nov 27, 2007

Just being pathetically Cynic.. but one shouldnt discount the political mileage and good will that Dubai would gain in the international circuit. Thanks to what money can not but charity can buy.

Nov 27, 2007

What a boring subject...can we talk about Micheal Jackson instead....

sage & onion · Nov 27, 2007

^ian^ wrote:I think it's a great effort, so long as when the charity gets to its destination it is put into place in a proper and transparent fashion.

I recall reading that Bob Geldof was devastated to find that about 70% of his Live Aid for Africa funds were misappropriated along their way to their final destination. He called this the high cost of giving aid - as there was little they could do. He ended up bribing a lot of people with his own money to ensure the aid got there.

The sad fact is, a lot of these places need aid because of their own corrupt governments take advantage of the situation, and see the aid as a means of releasing them from their own internal social responsibility to their people.

If it gets to where it needs to go, it should be applauded as a fantastic effort. If less than 50% of it gets to those who need it, it was just another marketing exercise for Dubai.

Call me cynical, but I have had a reasonable amount of exposure to aid organisations in my time, and have born witness to misappropriation.

The Red Cross is one such organisation that is now so top heavy, it spends a tremendous amount of its aid money on paying the salaries of the 'administration'.

I am right up there with you on this one.

We do have to applaud the generosity of HH Sheikh Mohammed, which I most certainly do.

arniegang · Nov 27, 2007

BabyDoll wrote:Sure. May you be reminded that he is the only Sheikh who tried to clamp down on labour mistreatment. Remember only a few months ago when Dubai has gotten more stringent on the working hours etc?

Agree more should be done but its not an easy job. At least he IS doing something.

It wasn't that long ago labourer's were being transported around in open back cattle truck type trucks.

The government only did something about it when the Sultan of Oman seen this on a visit and made his views known on this mis-treatment.

Then it hit the newspapers around the world and hey presto the buses were changed.

The same went for the 3 hour break in the summer months, labourers were dying through heat exhaustion, only when this was brought to the attention of the pubic was something actually done.

True Compassion or action through embarrassment???

uaebadoo · Nov 28, 2007

Concord wrote:
uaebadoo wrote:
Concord wrote:
uaebadoo wrote:
HP wrote:

Is he doing enough in his own country ? Does he take care of human rights in own country ? One can question about the poor labours from poor countries , who dont get enough salaries and have to work under hard conditions in his own Country? Is he entitle to distribute the money to other countries ?

Does he take care of human rights in own country ?

The government is doing their best but we know they will never be satisfied, I assure you that our human rights record is better than most of other countries, Is it better in your country?

[

You may want to check here and compare, etc.

http://www.amnestyusa.org/Our_Issues/By ... n1=3&n2=30

The one who are asking for human rights, Look what they are doing
http://www.agrnews.org/issues/278/cover.jpg

http://www.uruknet.info/pic.php?f=1741254.jpg

http://www.thewe.cc/thewei/_/images12/u ... crimes.jpe

http://files.pcadvance.co.uk/ssaw/uploa ... -%20we.jpg

http://quebec.indymedia.org/files/thumbs/16667_th.jpg

Wow, HP did all that (as he is "The one who are asking for human rights" on this thread)

And I thought the guy just made a simple observation about labourers rights

Besides, he is from Denmark.

Well, if you read my sentence, it clearly states They

BabyDoll · Nov 28, 2007

True Compassion or action through embarrassment???

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To be honest, how many people really act out of compassion these days? I mean compare to those act through embarrasment. Look at the corporate world today, isn't it the same?

One of human's biggest flaw: we learn to regret.

BabyDoll · Nov 28, 2007

http://www.mafiwasta.com/UAE_statistics.html

benwj · Dec 06, 2007

A person of honour wouldn't give someone some worthless land, and then take it back when it becomes useful. Queue: Jebel Ali Sailing Club, Dubai Water Ski Club, Dubai Country Club, Exiles Rugby Club. They are more comonly referred to by the now outdated term of Indian giver.
Oh sorry, Sheik Mo wasn't the one that gifted the land was he?

hack88 · Dec 06, 2007

benwj wrote:A person of honour wouldn't give someone some worthless land, and then take it back when it becomes useful. Queue: Jebel Ali Sailing Club, Dubai Water Ski Club, Dubai Country Club, Exiles Rugby Club. They are more comonly referred to by the now outdated term of Indian giver.
Oh sorry, Sheik Mo wasn't the one that gifted the land was he?

lol..dude..
listen if u have a problem with that,
u have a country of ur own and a passport ,
u can live there , u dunt have to stay here then ,
stop complaining and enjoy with wht u have

sage & onion · Dec 06, 2007

benwj wrote:A person of honour wouldn't give someone some worthless land, and then take it back when it becomes useful. Queue: Jebel Ali Sailing Club, Dubai Water Ski Club, Dubai Country Club, Exiles Rugby Club. They are more comonly referred to by the now outdated term of Indian giver.
Oh sorry, Sheik Mo wasn't the one that gifted the land was he?

Are you sure that the land was actually given, or was it loaned?, you should check before you make such statements.

benwj · Dec 06, 2007

Sage,
I am not sure exactly what the term 'gifted' means. It is obviously open to interpretation.
hack,
I am not/wasn't a member of any of these clubs so it doesn't affect me.
I just think that it was wrong and I expected better.
Sorry for passing judgement.

uaebadoo · Dec 07, 2007

benwj wrote:A person of honour wouldn't give someone some worthless land, and then take it back when it becomes useful. Queue: Jebel Ali Sailing Club, Dubai Water Ski Club, Dubai Country Club, Exiles Rugby Club. They are more comonly referred to by the now outdated term of Indian giver.
Oh sorry, Sheik Mo wasn't the one that gifted the land was he?

well u said it was worthless land so why u complain if it was taken back, it is owned by the Government anyway
Go to your country to get a land that can't be taken back from you

mada · Feb 04, 2008

If the land and the peoples were not worth while, then there would be no one at the gates asking permission to gain entrance. That is why for so many countless lives come each day to ask and work and offer their many talents and offer what they can in Dubai. It is not only to make a living, but to offer an exchange that will prove of merit long after that job has been retired from and they have travelled back to their points of origin.

rudeboy · Feb 04, 2008

BabyDoll wrote:Sure. May you be reminded that he is the only Sheikh who tried to clamp down on labour mistreatment. Remember only a few months ago when Dubai has gotten more stringent on the working hours etc?

Agree more should be done but its not an easy job. At least he IS doing something.

errr which working hours u talking about honey?? lol i stay awake till 1am and i bloody wake up at 7am by the bloody hammers at the construction site next door to me.

rudeboy · Feb 04, 2008

i think the Sheikh is playing SimCity3000

the guys doing a great job. if i was in his seat and had so much money I would be making Dubai the next Babylon. There are ppl below him who have mis-used their powers.
He is the ruler of Dubai and he should just help these labourers by having a few simple rules like making sure every bus has an ac for the labourers. or better living conditions for the labourers. If you go to a labour camp you will be shocked to see 20 ppl in the size of your living room.

bhomes · Jan 12, 2009

Under the able leadership of His Highness UAE can develop to the maximum.

DubaiInformationSite · Feb 11, 2009

ambitious, kind, visionary indeed....but does he take calculated decisions? does he fully think things out before acting? i have also heard a lot of controversy regarding young boys and girls. any substance?

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