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shafique

I rest my case. You don't deny your hypocrisy and that you are more fanatic than Al Qaeda.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Tom Jones wrote:
The Moslems denouncing the the Quran and the Hadith!!!??

You know darn well that will never happen.

Do you think the protestors aren't Muslim?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Shafique, I love how you always try to brush off those serious problems in Moslem societies as being prevalent in other societies. This attitude of “we have problems, so what, others have them too” is not conducive to tackling the problems and finding the right solutions. You misunderstand me - I'm...

shafique

My shock stems from knowing that the majority of women in Egypt see nothing wrong in a man beating his wife for speaking to another man. Just like the women in Yemen who support child marriage. Aren’t you troubled by that?? Especially when they are all Muslims?? Yes, I am troubled by that - and yes...

shafique

shafique wrote:God says s.ex outside of marriage is not allowed. Kung says God says s.ex outside of marriage is not allowed. Tali-tubby dreams of s.ex with virgins.

shafique

So, 'yes' I can't defend the Bible but will rather launch an ad hominem attack against Dawkins. Not only are you a tali-tubby, but you're a hypocritical tali-tubby to boot! But, you aren't ashamed to be more extreme than Al Qaeda - but I did expect you to be ashamed that you couldn't defend the Bibl...

shafique

^I suppose you think your knowledge from the I-spy-book of tali-tubby interpretations of Oriental Islam is correct then.

shafique

Well, they're moderate compared to your views that it is ok to enslave the virgins after slaughtering their families in cold blood - as long as 'God told me to do it' is the excuse.

Perhaps we should get the UN to issue a resolution to protect tali-tubbies?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Ah, so - apart from the word 'Rahman' in the Quran there's nothing in the Quran that says God of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad loves all creation. Hmm.

Interesting interpretation. Have you or Craig persuaded anyone else of this quaint view?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I answered your quesion. The deaths of three hundred people is not a genocide. Who is being 'genocided'? What group of people is the LRA trying to eradicate? Please, look up the term genocide before using it. So, the LRA are just mass-murderers then? (As I said, the Ugandan government called their ...

shafique

It would only be sawing the branch if I quoted Dawkins on those particular subjects and said I agree with him. However, what I quoted Dawkins on was the authorship of the Bible and the fabrications inserted about the events surrounding the birth of Jesus. Is it that you can't or won't defend the Bib...

shafique

At least we agree on a couple of things. However, you’re still doing your best not to explicitly acknowledge that there must be, at least, some Quranic influence on why those Egyptian women don not find wife beating so objectionable. I did say that: I think it is a totally valid hypothesis. Nothing...

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shafique

If you squint, and turn your head sideways... you can just about make out... yes... it's a fish!

shafique

Why would I join you in launching ad hominem attacks against someone you started a thread about to quote his views?

I didn't join you in your other weird views - eg on war crimes or Jewish and Christian terrorists.

So, is it that you can't or won't defend the Bible?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

shafique wrote:
Interesting interpretation. Have you or Craig persuaded anyone else of this quaint view?

I think it is a valid question. Did you miss it first time round?

shafique

Which is a worse crime 'eh' - enslaving 32,000 virgins and slaughtering all the other non-virgins, or enslaving boys and girls (the former to be soldiers, the latter to be s.ex slaves) after slaughtering their families? Are the 'Christian' LRA less cruel than the Israelites whose crimes you condone?...

shafique

^ We knew you condone war crimes, but we didn't know you wanted to watch judicial killings as well.

shafique

Both sets of bearded folks are a joke. Anyone thinking they are representative of Islam or Christianity have drunk the cool aid. Islamophobia is indeed partly succumbing to TaliItubby views of Islam which are rooted in Orientalist misrepresentations. The Al Qaeda etc are to Islam what the KKK are to...

shafique

Quranic teachings do not say it is ok to batter a woman - and therefore the Muslim women (and Egyptian copts, and generally nonIMuslim women) who condone wife battering aren't basing their views on the Quran. Muslim women are indeed influenced by the Quran which gives them rights etc - but your hypo...

shafique

I take it the answer to my question is 'No, I can't find another person who agrees with me and Craig'?

I'm sure there are some here who may agree - try Chev for example.

I will stick with Hans Kung's view that there is only one God - the same one Muhammad, Jesus and Moses prayed to.

Cheers
Shafique

shafique

I didn't see any quote which said the sun orbits the earth - can you post the verse where God says this? The one you posted says the sun and moon have a regular orbit (or course) - which is scientifically accurate, right? Now we'll wait for your justification of the Bible which states the earth stop...

shafique

The Quran allows for corporal punishment in specified circumstances. The Quran is clear about what these are (and even the English translation is unambiguous). The Quran therefore does not allow or condone wife battery - or hitting a wife in anger. The violence against women is not the punishment al...

shafique

I've seen a few programmes when in the UK and I am not surprised at the conclusion of this study (carried out by Muslims - btw) Wahabist ideology isn't universally accepted - and a visit to Quilliam's website shows more instances of them highlighting and criticising what is being said in the name of...

shafique

I will delete future posts which refer solely to questions asked in other threads. This thread's title is clear - no need to mix topics of two threads. There is already a thread about Quran and science. I have gone back and deleted all the posts relating to the thread about the Quran and science - ...

shafique

Dude, look at the group mentality of those people together. Suddenly they walk in spreads. Thats suspect. One geezer points a camera (or rpg, I can't tell the difference in advance) at the helicopter from behind a buildinger corner (see video!) and the military thinks its just a business as usual i...

shafique

Well, you say tomato.. What I read in these clear verses is God's clear instructions as to what is allowed when it comes to physical punishment of a spouse. The main point is that God does NOT say that wife battery is ok - we are not allowed to beat women in anger. This is a crucial point when peopl...

shafique

Yes, I posted many times that the first verse of the Quran states that God is Rahman - i.e. that He loves all creation. Hence my QED in my previous post. I also agree with Kung et al that there is only one God - that of Muhammad, Moses and Jesus - and therefore His attributes are the same. Cheers, S...

shafique

Here's a fascinating trawl through history of the struggle between the Western Church and science.. http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/christianity_astronomy.html Copernicus (1473-1543) enraged the Church by writing that the Earth might orbit the Sun. Christian theology holds that the great scheme of G...

shafique

Well, I'm not aware of the Holy Prophet, pbuh, forbidding anyone from following what he told them to do! (Sort of illogical, if you ask me - how would that work 'Hey guys, this is how to follow Islam - but btw don't follow any of my sayings/Hadith') ;) But you ask a valid question - given the proble...

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