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shafique

Well, we are still waiting for you to condemn the butchering of women, men and babies and the enslavement of 32,000 virgins.

Doesn't your justification of this make you a religious extremist (not to mention a hypocrite to boot)?

shafique

I'm saying that your refusal to condemn the cold blooded massacre of civilians and enslavement of virgins makes you a religious fanatic and a hypocrite.

Are you really arguing that the Israelite massacre is equivalent to a hurricane or volcano?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

So, in the 'collective punishment thread' you say: I totally condemn Allah's collective punishment of numerous cities - civilians were slaughtered by Allah because the inhabitants were unbelievers and rejected Allah's message. And yet you refuse to condemn the cold blooded butchering of civilians an...

shafique

Let me requote this section: ... And, mind you, you don't need to be an expert on the subject matter, just make sure to quote verses from the Qur'an out of context, cite Osama Bin Laden as the role model of Muslim behavior, bank on tired canaries like "Islam oppresses women," and "Isl...

shafique

Islamic scholar Tahir ul-Qadri to issue terrorism fatwa By Dominic Casciani BBC News An influential Muslim scholar is to issue in London a global ruling against terrorism and suicide bombing. Dr Tahir ul-Qadri, from Pakistan, says his 600-page judgement, known as a fatwa, completely dismantles al-Q...

shafique

No - not yet.

However I've finished the first 3 chapters of 'Failed States'.

My reaction is:

Geeeeezzzuss!! I mean, Jeez - how can they get away with all this!

shafique

Hey, MSL - I've told you a million times that I have a problem with people exagerating! ;) I was just having a tongue-in-cheek go at the 'worst terrorist ever' statement, and any post that mentions Mr Bean can't be too 'heavy' by definition. :mrgreen: (And, aren't I duty bound to advertise the fun a...

shafique

You're quite welcome. The fact that you consider Ibrahim to be a scholar despite his credentials speaks volumes. As I said, the description of Ibrahim seems to fit your tactics to a 't': ... And, mind you, you don't need to be an expert on the subject matter, just make sure to quote verses from the ...

shafique

As I said, I'm glad we have two threads on war crimes now - one with quotes from the Bible (with the first crime being the cold blooded slaughter of men, women, babies and the enslavement of 32,000 virgins - carried out by Israelites) and this thread about alleged war crimes in the Quran. To answer ...

shafique

So, in the 'collective punishment thread' you say: I totally condemn Allah's collective punishment of numerous cities - civilians were slaughtered by Allah because the inhabitants were unbelievers and rejected Allah's message. And yet you refuse to condemn the cold blooded butchering of civilians a...

shafique

So, we've established that the only defence for the war crime described offered by eh, is that God also kills civilians when he sends down punishment in the form of volcanoes etc. I presume therefore that eh is one of those who believe that AIDS is a punishment meted out on gays by God. It is intere...

shafique

The 'sheikh' doesn't disapoint!

What's the betting sheikhy baby didn't read past the thread title?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Really eh - what is this obsession with men's private parts? Ponder on the description quoted above that describes the only way you can raise your 'tired canaries': As I said, the description of Ibrahim seems to fit your tactics to a 't': ... And, mind you, you don't need to be an expert on the subj...

shafique

How are you any different from all the other religious nutters that say it is ok to kill children as long as God tells them it is ok? You go even further and don't condone the enslavement and probable rape of 32,000 virgins. Religious fanatics think there is nothing wrong with this view and call oth...

shafique

I understand why you don't want to answer this question - as it would expose your Islamophobia/Racism as well as your hypocrisy - wouldn't it? Is it only massacres carried out by Jewish people that you support, or do you only condemn massacres carried out by Muslims or Allah? Or do you have an answe...

shafique

Someone who believes it is ok to murder and enslave because of Divine instruction is indeed commonly referred to as a religious fanatic. We have uncovered one here - it seems. No defence against this conclusion, I see. I personally think it is highly hypocritical to on the one hand condone the ensl...

shafique

So, it's ok for Israel to discriminate against Muslims - why am I not surprised at this answer? ;) You over look one fact though - when the Israelis conquered East Jerusalem in 1967, they violated international law by evicting and bulldozing the houses of the Muslims living in the Maghreb quarter. T...

shafique

Ok, well I guess we have reached the final count on this topic which was exploring the theory proposed by 'eh' that Islam produces more converts who commit terrorist acts than any other religion. The challenge was to look at the statistics and see whether this hypothesis is supported by any statisti...

shafique

Indeed, you can bring a horse to water - but you can't make it drink! So, this scholar is wrong and our resident sheikh is right - Islam is a war mongering religion that condones terrorism! (but wait, I note that sheikh didn't confirm whether he had actually read the article - let alone the 600 page...

shafique

I thought I did comment on your strange obsession with men's private parts - I called it a weird fantasy. You even said, ' 'nuff said' ' As for the rest of the arguments - I've asked you why you think you aren't employing the same tactics as Ibrahim when he reels out his 'tired canaries'? Cheers, Sh...

shafique

So, you don't dispute that you don't have problems with Israelis discriminating. You can't bring yourself to condemn (or even acknowledge) the war crime I described above that took place in the Maghreb quarter. That does indeed speak volumes - as does the refusal to answer the question in red above....

shafique

But yet you condemned acts of God, but don't condemn acts of slaughter by Israelites. How are you different from other religious fanatics that say it is ok to kill civilians in cold blood - as long as God tells them to do it? You are the ONLY person I've come across here that says it is ok to kill c...

shafique

So, do you condemn the Israeli war crime committed when they bulldozed the Maghreb quarter and the fact they continue to deny access to the site to Muslims they evicted? You didn't acknowledge the crime above and even seemed to argue that it was a false analogy (which is strange - as this is a threa...

shafique

shafique wrote:
As for the rest of the arguments - I've asked you why you think you aren't employing the same tactics as Ibrahim when he reels out his 'tired canaries'?

Hint - look back at what the first 'tactic' described was.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

You are a religious fanatic for condoning the enslavement and rape of 32,000 virgins and the massacre of their families in cold blood. Religious fanatics excuse cold-blooded massacres by saying 'well the book says God ordered it' or 'God does the same thing, so why should we condemn the Israelites'....

shafique

Addressed them - they are your weird fantasies, and all rely on the 'tired canary' tactic described above. The plain fact is that you have been unable to back up your claim that Islam allows s.ex outside of marriage. So, yet another case of AMNT. (At best you're arguing men can 'let it hang out' in ...

shafique

If Abraham or any other person slaughtered women, babies and men in cold blood like the Israelites did - then he too would be condemned by me and any other person with 'normal' morals. You are the ONLY one who is condoning cold-blooded massacre and the enslavement/rape of virgins. Do you think you'l...

shafique

Again with your fantasies.

I simply asked you to back up your claim that Islam allows s.ex outside of marriage.

Fail.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

So, do you or don't you condemn the Israeli war crime? I've addressed the original point - I don't see the injunction that the Kaaba be returned to the original mono-theistic roots to be a war crime. The Pagaans all acknowledged that Allah was one of those to be worshipped - but only objected to the...

shafique

Not clear to me at all. Where does God say it is ok to have s.ex outside of marriage? God does say that men can marry their slaves when he lists the women men can legally marry (and lists those who we can't - sisters, mothers etc) Your contention that Islam allows adultery is yet to be proven though...

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