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That's true, poverty and lack of education for the masses, not just those who can afford it - are major causes of political and social strife.

I really can't see how you would be optimistic about a secular Arab nation - just look at what is going on right now! No one is getting along - everyone is sticking to their own group and trying to exert their power to dominate over another. I'm not sure, but isn't the majority of the Arab world actually Muslim of some sect or another? How easy will it be for non-Muslim Arabs to identify with Muslim Arabs when there is much more to relations that just having an Arab bloodline?

Everyone sticks to his own group because of the perceived weakness of the general government to protect them.

When King Faysal was promised an Arab Nation with its capital in Damascus, there were all Arabs of all kinds of faiths living in peice.

The Arabs lived for the most part at peace with their brothers of differents faiths for many years.

Yes there were squirmished but these were mostly vendetta types (don't forget the Sicilians have had this for centuries and they are mostly of Arab descent).

Some of my best Arab friends are not Muslim and I even was friends with some Jewish Arabs in the past. Our common culture, heritage, and language is what binds us. Religion complements us.

Canadians or Americans have all kinds of religions and they co-exist. Why is it so hard for people to see that with us Arabs when all our past points to that capability?

We are all human.

There is simply put, NO chance of this ever happening.

Some Christian "supermacists" in Lebanon don't even consider themselves Arabs! The fools claim they are Phoenicians!

I don't think we'll live enough to see united Arab nations.

Nick81 wrote:There is simply put, NO chance of this ever happening.

Some Christian "supermacists" in Lebanon don't even consider themselves Arabs! The fools claim they are Phoenicians!

I don't think we'll live enough to see united Arab nations.

Well idiots exist all over the place. Some supremicists in Egypt claim to be descendants of the Pharoas and some in Morocco claim to be European Spaniards that just speak Arabic...

We may not see it in our lifetime but it will happen.

The GCC will become one in our lifetime and I can forsee a Maghreb Bloc perhapes in our old age. There shall be a Levant bloc soon I beleive. Only after these 3 main blocks are formed can the Arabs thing of uniting completly.

Liban wrote:Everyone sticks to his own group because of the perceived weakness of the general government to protect them.

When King Faysal was promised an Arab Nation with its capital in Damascus, there were all Arabs of all kinds of faiths living in peice.

The Arabs lived for the most part at peace with their brothers of differents faiths for many years.

Yes there were squirmished but these were mostly vendetta types (don't forget the Sicilians have had this for centuries and they are mostly of Arab descent).

Some of my best Arab friends are not Muslim and I even was friends with some Jewish Arabs in the past. Our common culture, heritage, and language is what binds us. Religion complements us.

Canadians or Americans have all kinds of religions and they co-exist. Why is it so hard for people to see that with us Arabs when all our past points to that capability?

We are all human.

Well, I'm reading a book on Arab history, so I should have more knowledge on the subject soon. It is a large book, so lots of reading

I really have my doubts about any unity after looking at the current state of affairs in the Middle East, sorry.

kanelli wrote:
Well, I'm reading a book on Arab history, so I should have more knowledge on the subject soon. It is a large book, so lots of reading

I really have my doubts about any unity after looking at the current state of affairs in the Middle East, sorry.

Arab history is a long one... Good reading

The current state of affairs is due not to Arab people but their so-called leaders. Unity is possible but only when the masses take the lead...

Canadians or Americans have all kinds of religions and they co-exist. Why is it so hard for people to see that with us Arabs when all our past points to that capability?

We are all human.[/quote]

because some fanatics did and do things that put u all in a bad light. and generally ppl r too narrowminded and stupid to think further. i personally know several ppl who think arab=muslim and that all arabs are terrorists, beat to death ur wives, lock them in the house and treat them like dogs, and u probably all stinck and r undereducated...no comment

it is ur turn to be the bad guys, just as is happend not long ago with communist russians, naczi germans, etc. anyway, i wrote about this and if im not mistaken u posted an answer.

^ um is that you in your avatar?

kanelli wrote:That's true, poverty and lack of education for the masses, not just those who can afford it - are major causes of political and social strife.

I really can't see how you would be optimistic about a secular Arab nation - just look at what is going on right now! No one is getting along - everyone is sticking to their own group and trying to exert their power to dominate over another. I'm not sure, but isn't the majority of the Arab world actually Muslim of some sect or another? How easy will it be for non-Muslim Arabs to identify with Muslim Arabs when there is much more to relations that just having an Arab bloodline?

they have differences and caracteristics for every country, just like us, europeans r not the same. maybe those gaps r not as obvious as between european nations, but they exist.
i think the keyword here should be coexistence, not becoming the same.

Nick81 wrote:^ um is that you in your avatar?

no, my neighbor

I am in love

raidah wrote:Canadians or Americans have all kinds of religions and they co-exist. Why is it so hard for people to see that with us Arabs when all our past points to that capability?

We are all human.

because some fanatics did and do things that put u all in a bad light. and generally ppl r too narrowminded and stupid to think further. i personally know several ppl who think arab=muslim and that all arabs are terrorists, beat to death ur wives, lock them in the house and treat them like dogs, and u probably all stinck and r undereducated...no comment

it is ur turn to be the bad guys, just as is happend not long ago with communist russians, naczi germans, etc. anyway, i wrote about this and if im not mistaken u posted an answer.[/quote]

Well some extreme Muslims have done all of those things that you mention and only the sensational news makes into the media - so yes, there are a lot of people who stereotype about Islam. The same thing can be said for some Muslim's views about North America and Europe etc. They might think that countries in those regions are godless, corrupt, trashy etc. People just love to stereotype

kanelli wrote:

raidah wrote:Canadians or Americans have all kinds of religions and they co-exist. Why is it so hard for people to see that with us Arabs when all our past points to that capability?

We are all human.

because some fanatics did and do things that put u all in a bad light. and generally ppl r too narrowminded and stupid to think further. i personally know several ppl who think arab=muslim and that all arabs are terrorists, beat to death ur wives, lock them in the house and treat them like dogs, and u probably all stinck and r undereducated...no comment

it is ur turn to be the bad guys, just as is happend not long ago with communist russians, naczi germans, etc. anyway, i wrote about this and if im not mistaken u posted an answer.

Well some extreme Muslims have done all of those things that you mention and only the sensational news makes into the media - so yes, there are a lot of people who stereotype about Islam. The same thing can be said for some Muslim's views about North America and Europe etc. They might think that countries in those regions are godless, corrupt, trashy etc. People just love to stereotype [/quote]

ur right, some, actually many of them did and do those things. my point is, that to be unhuman in anyway with another person, does not require to belong to one certain nation. because during the history of humanity, almost all nations or groups have committed unforgivable things to others.

Very true raidah.