Asian Muslims Forced Off Flights

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Aug 22, 2006
A good write up of the incident on the BBC web site, including quotes from experts echoing my thoughts on the events and also includes comments from readers at the end (which I found interesting too) :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5270500.stm

Some quotes for the lazy:

A passenger on the flight, Heath Schofield, explained the suspicions. "It was a return holiday flight, full of people in flip-flops and shorts. There were just two people in the whole crowd who looked like they didn't belong there."

Were these legitimate fears or is this group hysteria? How did not wearing flip-flops become a danger sign?

"What's happening informally is that people are applying their own version of terrorist profiling," says psychologist Gary Fitzgibbon.

"It's filtered down to the public that anyone who looks like a Muslim is potentially a terrorist. And what happens in groups is that you get people saying that somebody fits the profile."


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Once the group has identified somebody as behaving strangely, this can then become self-fulfilling, says Dr Fitzgibbon.

"There's the 'audience effect', which means that if people are aware that they're being looked at, their behaviour can become awkward and self-conscious."


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Some comments:

Fred: presumably these two gentlemen dressed in warm clothing were the only ones on the flight intelligent enough to check the weather forecast for Manchester before they boarded the plane.
Lyndon Rosser, Cardiff

All passengers have to go through really rigorous checks before boarding. To summarily decide that these checks are somehow invalid is to introduce an anarchy based on prejudice. The logical conclusion is to do away with all official boarding checks and let passengers check each other. Now that would make air travel interesting...
Tim, Sapporo, Japan

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Aug 24, 2006
we have had report that “Only the pilot refused to take off”and it was his decision alone and the R*gheads were behaving like R*heads and they were
upsetting other travelers if they want to draw attention to them self's this is what they get at last the "Brits" are getting back together keep up the good work :lol:
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Nice attempt Serpent - good to see that you've mastered the internet and the keyboard, but perhaps you can ask your mom (or some other adult) to explain to you punctuation - the use of capitals at the start of sentences and full stops at the end of sentences.

Or perhaps it is because you are typing with the left hand only?

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Oh, and don't let the facts of the reports and interviews given by the boys influence your views will you! :)


:oops: Yes, I'm feeding the troll, I know... :oops:
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It's so crazy. I'm sure if a Muslim Extremist wants to detonate a bomb on a 737 from Malaga to Manchester, they would wear flip flops and be swigging beer to make themselves a little inconspicuous. After all the speculation and unjustified removal of Muslims from flights, I think these guys are a step ahead and bright enough to get around the system!

Maybe they'll get to the point where they'll escort British tourists with brown hair, brown eyes and a tan after being sat on a beach on the Costa Del Sol for 2 weeks because they have an 'Arab like complexion'. As George Galloway would say 'This is absolutely proposterous!'
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Aug 26, 2006
Another incident aboard a NorthWest Airlines plane.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europ ... index.html
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Aug 26, 2006
Chocs - the news is a bit dated. The 12 were questioned and released with no charge and were let to travel onwards. Their crime apparently amounted to them taking out mobile phones.

I think there have been at least 2 more incidents of planes being diverted etc - one Irish plane from the US where a person with an Irish accent, but claiming to be Al Qaeda, phoned and said there was a bomb on the plane. The plane landed in Shannon airport, everyone questioned and the luggage checked.. but nothing.

I saw a bit on the news where a plane to the US was diverted - but didn't pay attention - just remember that it was diverted to another US airport from the destination and everyone was being questioned. It was a United Airlines plane if I recall correctly.

Separately there was a report of a flight from South American to the US where a passenger had dynamite on their checked in luggage!

Crazee times.

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Aug 26, 2006
Yep as I said already - the world's gone nuts.
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Princess Banana Hammock wrote:It's so crazy. I'm sure if a Muslim Extremist wants to detonate a bomb on a 737 from Malaga to Manchester, they would wear flip flops and be swigging beer to make themselves a little inconspicuous. After all the speculation and unjustified removal of Muslims from flights, I think these guys are a step ahead and bright enough to get around the system!

Maybe they'll get to the point where they'll escort British tourists with brown hair, brown eyes and a tan after being sat on a beach on the Costa Del Sol for 2 weeks because they have an 'Arab like complexion'. As George Galloway would say 'This is absolutely proposterous!'


Apparently there were other Muslim-looking tourists that were on the flight, but they weren't kicked off. So you can't say it is completely down to a fear of Asians and Arabs.
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DubaiLets wrote:
Princess Banana Hammock wrote:It's so crazy. I'm sure if a Muslim Extremist wants to detonate a bomb on a 737 from Malaga to Manchester, they would wear flip flops and be swigging beer to make themselves a little inconspicuous. After all the speculation and unjustified removal of Muslims from flights, I think these guys are a step ahead and bright enough to get around the system!

Maybe they'll get to the point where they'll escort British tourists with brown hair, brown eyes and a tan after being sat on a beach on the Costa Del Sol for 2 weeks because they have an 'Arab like complexion'. As George Galloway would say 'This is absolutely proposterous!'


Apparently there were other Muslim-looking tourists that were on the flight, but they weren't kicked off. So you can't say it is completely down to a fear of Asians and Arabs.


that's good analysis. but r u sure they didnt have beards and leather coats?
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DubaiLets wrote:
Princess Banana Hammock wrote:It's so crazy. I'm sure if a Muslim Extremist wants to detonate a bomb on a 737 from Malaga to Manchester, they would wear flip flops and be swigging beer to make themselves a little inconspicuous. After all the speculation and unjustified removal of Muslims from flights, I think these guys are a step ahead and bright enough to get around the system!

Maybe they'll get to the point where they'll escort British tourists with brown hair, brown eyes and a tan after being sat on a beach on the Costa Del Sol for 2 weeks because they have an 'Arab like complexion'. As George Galloway would say 'This is absolutely proposterous!'


Apparently there were other Muslim-looking tourists that were on the flight, but they weren't kicked off. So you can't say it is completely down to a fear of Asians and Arabs.


Well, yes I can say it is down to the misconception of Arabs, otherwise why were these two lads questioned in the first place? I'm sure there were other Muslim Arabs on the plane but those other Muslim Arabs were probably like me... Half British, Half Arabic, technically Muslim but doesn't comply to the rules ie wears Western clothes, doesn't pray, eats pork... You wouldn't know I was Arabic or Muslim by looking at me. The media let you believe what they want you to.
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lol i just wanna ask the person who implemented this new law regarding the screening of passengers at Englands International Airports that if you happen to be WHITE and you just converted to islam how would you catch that guy LOL by the way cos of september 11 more and more ppl from england and USA and other parts of the world are converting to Islam so in one way sept 11 has contributed because cos of sept 11 ISLAM is being mentioned like never before lol nice idea who ever came up with sept 11.... do most of you guys know wot a false flag is and do you know in most of the countries there are agencies and especially in USA there r so many agencies apart from FBI and CIA that no1 not even the president of america knows about lol anyways thats another topic :P and basically just wanted to know that if u r WHITE just converted to Islam and you r planning on bombing a flite how will they stop you lol it could happen cannt it :P
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