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I repeat that I personally don't view these guys as Christian, but are converts to a cult - but 'eh' insisted they are Christian terrorists.

Evidence of the massacre of at least 321 people in Democratic Republic of Congo has been uncovered by the BBC.

The killings took place last December but have not previously been reported.

Fighters from the notorious Lord's Resistance Army raided several villages in a remote part of north-eastern DR Congo, killing and abducting children.

Human Rights Watch says this is one of the worst massacres carried out by the LRA, whose fighters roam across several countries after spreading from Uganda.
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Children were a particular target of the LRA.
At least 80 were taken by force - boys to become fighters, girls to be used as s.ex slaves by LRA combatants.
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The crimes seem almost 'Biblical' - so perhaps that is why 'eh' has adopted them as 'Christian' terrorists.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8587305.stm

Cheers,
Shafique

This question to 'eh' is still unanswered.

shafique wrote:Tell me though, what is your view of the Christian LRA group - are they genocidal, or just mass murderers?

Was the question difficult?

Cheers,
Shafique[/quote]

No, of course the LRA are not genocidal.

Who are they committing genocide against?

I'm asking you whether you consider their mass killings a 'genocide' or just 'mass murder'?

The latest reports of 321 killed are just the latest in a long campaign of killings by these guys you claim are Christians.

So - do you consider these terrorists genocidal or just mass murderers? (Note, if you look back - you will see that the Ugandan authorities called the LRA genocidal).

Cheers,
Shafique

I answered your quesion.

The deaths of three hundred people is not a genocide.

Who is being 'genocided'?

What group of people is the LRA trying to eradicate?

Please, look up the term genocide before using it.

event horizon wrote:I answered your quesion.

The deaths of three hundred people is not a genocide.

Who is being 'genocided'?

What group of people is the LRA trying to eradicate?

Please, look up the term genocide before using it.

So, the LRA are just mass-murderers then? (As I said, the Ugandan government called their actions genocidal).

So 321 killed in one incident doesn't make a genocide - but doesn't that ignore that this is only one incident? When the Israelites slaughtered the families of the 32,000 virgins they enslaved - was that a genocide?

Cheers,
Shafique

Which is a worse crime 'eh' - enslaving 32,000 virgins and slaughtering all the other non-virgins, or enslaving boys and girls (the former to be soldiers, the latter to be s.ex slaves) after slaughtering their families?

Are the 'Christian' LRA less cruel than the Israelites whose crimes you condone?

Cheers,
Shafique

I think I'm going to start a count of how many days it is since I asked the question:

shafique wrote:Avoiding YET ANOTHER question 'eh' - really. tut tut tut

shafique wrote:Which is a worse crime 'eh' - enslaving 32,000 virgins and slaughtering all the other non-virgins, or enslaving boys and girls (the former to be soldiers, the latter to be s.ex slaves) after slaughtering their families?

Are the 'Christian' LRA less cruel than the Israelites whose crimes you condone?

Cheers,
Shafique

Have you taken a count for how many christian suicide bombers I have posted about in this thread?

I'll be happy to compare the counts of the 'Christian terrorists' such as the LRA against the counts of civilians killed by Muslim terrorists. I'll let you count the number of victims of Muslim terrorist attacks first though. My count can start with the 321 killed by the LRA in December.

But my question to you still remains:

shafique wrote:Which is a worse crime 'eh' - enslaving 32,000 virgins and slaughtering all the other non-virgins, or enslaving boys and girls (the former to be soldiers, the latter to be s.ex slaves) after slaughtering their families?

Are the 'Christian' LRA less cruel than the Israelites whose crimes you condone?

Let's count this as day 20 for this question (it's actually longer, but hey, let's round it down to 20 days)

Cheers,
Shafique

These Hutaree, Christian Militia folks have now been released on bail


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8658604.stm

Nine alleged members of a radical US Christian militia group accused of plotting to wage war against the US have been freed from jail on bond.

A judge in Detroit ordered their release, despite prosecutors' objections, imposing strict conditions including electronic tagging.

The suspects - eight men and one woman - were detained in a series of FBI raids across the Mid-West in March.

They are said to belong to a Michigan-based militia called the Hutaree.

It is alleged they planned to kill a police officer in Michigan and then stage a second attack on the funeral, using landmines and roadside bombs.

Defence lawyers say it is just a case of hate-filled, irrational speech.
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Thanks for the update. I've been away and I wasn't able to keep everybody informed of the threat of Christian terrorism - surely I've missed out on posting on dozens of Christian suicide bombers in the time I've been away.

Anyways, any word on the Manhattan bomber? A Christian fanatic, rite?

Ah, welcome back - and you're welcome about the updated info about Christian terrorists above.

I guess the count can resume for your unanswered questions then.

(See thread below - Bible and Science - it's now approaching 2 months without an answer..)

Cheers,
Shafique

Manhattan bomber - Christian religious fanatic, right?

If he was, then he deserves to be in this thread about christian terrorists. Last time I looked he was another numpty McVeigh wannabe and wasn't a Christian terrorist like the LRA or the Hutaree above (although I guess both he and the Hutaree are American numpty wanabe terrorists).

Hey, I'm all for locking up numpties.

(You're not avoiding the Biblical thread are you, perchance? )

Cheers,
Shafique

I forgot there was also ANOTHER unanswered question for our young american bible-basher, eh:

Still - All Mouth, No Trousers:

shafique wrote:I'll be happy to compare the counts of the 'Christian terrorists' such as the LRA against the counts of civilians killed by Muslim terrorists. I'll let you count the number of victims of Muslim terrorist attacks first though. My count can start with the 321 killed by the LRA in December.

But my question to you still remains:

shafique wrote:Which is a worse crime 'eh' - enslaving 32,000 virgins and slaughtering all the other non-virgins, or enslaving boys and girls (the former to be soldiers, the latter to be s.ex slaves) after slaughtering their families?

Are the 'Christian' LRA less cruel than the Israelites whose crimes you condone?

(This is over and above the elephant in the room which is in this thread:
philosophy-dubai/bible-and-science-defence-t40975.html#p330963
)

MOD UPDATE

Given that there is now a thread created by event horizon to list 'Islamic Terrorist' acts, I have had a major clean up of this thread.

All posts just listing attacks in Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan (and one in Phillipines) - and where there were no relevant comments other than a question whether these were carried out by Christians, have been deleted.

We are left with some actual discussions over topics such as whether the Lords Resistance Army of Uganda are Christian terrorists or not, and whether they are genocidal or just mass murderers; and a discussion over Hitler's German church. The original post contains references to Christian fundamentalist terrorists in the USA today.
/MOD update

Ok, whilst we wait for eh's response about the LRA terrorists, here's a couple of references to a bombing of mosque in eh's home country (USA):

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/05/terror ... -standard/

http://wokv.com/localnews/2010/05/possi ... tigat.html

Both make the point I made in the opening post about the relative media coverages of attacks depending on the religion (and race?) of the one doing the attack.

A Muslim suspect wouldn’t even have to use the pipe bomb. A Muslim would simply have to post something on Revolution Muslim stating intent to do that, and it would be enough to create national hysteria. It is barely exaggeration to say that a Muslim would create national hysteria if he simply thought of doing that, let alone actually attempting it.

A Muslim would be on front page news for simply farting in the general direction of a synagogue or church.

funny, and makes the point quite well!

Cheers,
Shafique

Ok, on the basis that if a Muslim preacher had shot and killed police officers before being shot killed, there would be a good chance he would be called a terrorist.. I guess it should make sense to count these guys (who committed the killings a few days ago) in this thread:

Jerry Kane, a radical right-winger who belongs to the sovereign citizen movement gunned down two police officers and injured two others. Is this an instance of politics and race mixing with religion and ending in terrorism? Imagine if Kane had been a Muslim, this would be headline news across the nation, pundits and Islamophobes would be waying in on the “threat of homegrown terrorism” and we would all be frightened into hiding under our beds.

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/05/west-m ... re-muslim/

and

Kane told New Mexico State Police that he was the pastor of the House of God's Prayer, which is the name of the controversial church in Ohio. The former pastor of the church, Harold Ray Redfeairn, became the leader of the Aryan Nation, and went to jail in 1993 for trying to kill a police officer. He was paroled in 1991 and died in 2003.

Ionescu tells myEyewitnessNews.com he fired off an e-mail to the West Memphis Police Department demanding compensation to pay for the funerals of Jerry and Joe Kane. Kane's common-law wife in Florida, Donna Lee Wray, also posted a request for donations on Kane's website.

http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/news/local/story/The-Truth-About-the-Accused-West-Memphis-Cop/srFckneRBEuc0AbwQbcMNg.cspx

[Mod - Moved to Islamic Terrorist Thread - in future will just delete such posts.]