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michaeldubai · Feb 10, 2009

Chocoholic wrote:Yes I can vouch for that, having worked for one of the major news papers here, they are forbidden to write anything negative about the UAE or it's rulers or face heavy fines, sacking of the journalist in question etc etc.

Many countries in the world have restrained journalism. And if the authorities here wish to control the journalists - no problem with that.

But when garbage is printed and conflicting statements.......better not to print anything at all. Why not have neutral articles about how much sand in the desert

naruto · Feb 10, 2009

K-Dog wrote:
naruto wrote:well real-estat is in deep shiii..right now and we all know that..

but K-dog is their any possiblity that what they said about the visa increment is correct..why spread bad news if we are not 100%sure..
u told me ur story with ur boss or friend ..i might believe you and i tell my friends ..but imagin at the end we find out that ur boss was lying???
for me i beleive what my GOV says but i also have to think and ask my self is it true or just lies..but i dont go around spreading news that i get from a friend or bunch of people who work at a typing company...

You won't understand the logic Naruto. It will be like banging my head against the wall. Choco might be up for it. She loves it and admire her for that.

so now u are getting angrey because i didnt agree with you..
now you have the logic and i dont ..although i gave u examples and tried to have a nice conversation with you ..
now i know what UAEkid is trying to tell us

naruto · Feb 10, 2009

Chocoholic wrote:
naruto wrote:liess!!!

How did you know they are lying???

or because you dont want to hear any positive news about UAE..

should we trust our media or yours?

what make our media reliable ..what make westren media reliable..

can you prove without refereing to outside reports that they are lying?

i have so many Q..and im confused which news to believe..

Yes I can vouch for that, having worked for one of the major news papers here, they are forbidden to write anything negative about the UAE or it's rulers or face heavy fines, sacking of the journalist in question etc etc.

can you tell me what type of negative news ??
yes it forbidden to write anything that might jeprdise the national security..or creat chaos..

K-Dog · Feb 10, 2009

You want logic so here it is. It is logical that the same article said they tried a bunch of times to get the figure and they were denied. The chief was crticised in the meeting for not being transparent. The typing centers would be the best indicator wouldn't it as 99.9% of the people go those typing centers. Plus it was published in the local media. The net positive the chief is talking about includes renewals. We all know we get "new" visas issued every 3 years.

Chocoholic · Feb 10, 2009

Okay when 7 Days wrote a story about a member of the ruling family, which wasn't to their liking, they refused to print the paper, shutting down the printers who produced it.

I know reporters who have been fired for writing true but negative stories about the UAE. It's all BS.

naruto · Feb 10, 2009

Chocoholic wrote:Okay when 7 Days wrote a story about a member of the ruling family, which wasn't to their liking, they refused to print the paper, shutting down the printers who produced it.

I know reporters who have been fired for writing true but negative stories about the UAE. It's all BS.

link ..or source plz

naruto · Feb 10, 2009

K-Dog wrote:You want logic so here it is. It is logical that the same article said they tried a bunch of times to get the figure and they were denied. The chief was crticised in the meeting for not being transparent. The typing centers would be the best indicator wouldn't it as 99.9% of the people go those typing centers. Plus it was published in the local media. The net positive the chief is talking about includes renewals. We all know we get "new" visas issued every 3 years.

u came back..

the first report says: The number of working visas being issued in Dubai remains a “net positive"...Yes, we have cancelled a lot, but at the same time a lot have been issued,” Safadi told the conference.
so they issued 2000 visa and cansellled 1500...the reason why they didnt get the figure is :This was due to “the simple reason that the mechanisms to produce these data are not in place”, he said so he admit it was their mistake..

so until now we dont know the truth so please when every thing is clear and we have the offical data then we can talk about logic ..not by conjecture or forming an opinion, without the knowledge of real data

Pankaj · Feb 10, 2009

Naruto, it is hard to believe the govt when they spew stories like "I swear to God only 11 cars were left in 2008," and "our One-Family-One-Villa policy was misunderstood and does not mean one family per villa." Also, as someone pointed out, EVERY expat in the country has to renew their visa every 3 years, and so the "new visas" will always be higher than cancellations.

kanelli · Feb 10, 2009

Here you go Naruto - http://secretdubai.blogspot.com/2006/12 ... -hell.html

naruto · Feb 10, 2009

kanelli wrote:Here you go Naruto - http://secretdubai.blogspot.com/2006/12 ... -hell.html

here we go what ??? the report is full of CCrap..if he was 100% sure about his information..why in the end he didnt mention his or here name ..insted he or she signed:-

posted by secretdubai :lol:

hahahaha ..try harder..

naruto · Feb 10, 2009

and your source is a blog.

:lol:

kanelli · Feb 10, 2009

It is completely true. The royal family was offended at the misquote, and it was almost the end of the 7Days paper. I remember all of this happening and the distribution of 7Days in all Emaar properties was stopped. Let me see if I can dig up another source. The blog was spot on though, even if it is a blog.

naruto · Feb 10, 2009

true or false

if u insult any member of the royal family ..your are not wellcomed here and we dont want you here ..i think its clear for you..

kanelli · Feb 10, 2009

Can't find any "news" articles on the story, just discussion. It isn't much of a surprise that official black and white statements in newspapers about what exactly happened are hard to find, because the sacking and banning happens with everything kept under wraps.

Here are two discussion threads, plus there was one on an Emaar community site that you must belong to in order to read posts.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=410237 - discussion on British expats forum, including a copy of one article that states that one journalist was sacked from 7Days

http://www.expatgossip.com/showthread.php?t=7032&page=5 - discussion on expatgossip.com on where 7Days went to in Emaar communities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emaar - Wikipedia entry for Emaar says that Emaar banned the 7Days paper because there was criticism of the board of directors (are they royals?)

A blog called Dubai Media Observer - http://dubaimedia.blogspot.com/2007/05/ ... 7days.html

naruto · Feb 10, 2009

naruto · Feb 10, 2009

kanelli wrote:Can't find any "news" articles on the story, just discussion. It isn't much of a surprise that official black and white statements in newspapers about what exactly happened are hard to find, because the sacking and banning happens with everything kept under wraps.

Here are two discussion threads, plus there was one on an Emaar community site that you must belong to in order to read posts.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=410237 - [size=12]discussion on British expats[/size] forum, including a copy of one article that states that one journalist was sacked from 7Days

http://www.expatgossip.com/showthread.php?t=7032&page=5 - discussion on expatgossip.com on where 7Days went to in Emaar communities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emaar - Wikipedia entry for Emaar says that Emaar banned the 7Days paper because there was criticism of the board of directors (are they royals?)

A blog called Dubai Media Observer - http://dubaimedia.blogspot.com/2007/05/ ... 7days.html

more CCRap..give me one reliable source ..and plz by reliable source i mean no forums no blogspot no gossip no expact descution..something is true and doe not relay on gossips and rumors

PS: TRY HARDER :lol:

kanelli · Feb 10, 2009

Its the Sheikh's little country, he can do what he wants in the end.

It is you who needs to try harder to open your eyes and see that the UAE media is full of sh.i.t journalism and people are sacked and run out of town for doing something that offends someone important. If you don't think this kind of thing happens in the UAE, then you have a nice tight, thick blindfold on.

uaekid · Feb 10, 2009

this is all they got nauto .. blogs , mouth to mouth news and forums what else they got ?they trust those personal opinions .like I said before , non has a mind of his own to think or bother their lazy minds to figure out anything on their own.

kanelli · Feb 10, 2009

Don't forget this great topic posted by quatroporte - http://dubaiforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=32371&highlight=

The Dubai Media Observer blog seems to be written by people who work in Dubai Media outlets. Also, Chocs works in media and said that she knows they can't publish or say anything negative. I guess the average Emirati citizen would know better than people working in the industry though.

:lol:

Chocoholic · Feb 10, 2009

Of course you won't find news articles, they're hardly going to publicise it are they?!

Like I said, I KNOW half the people who work in the media here, so I get the first hand inside info!

kanelli · Feb 10, 2009

Nah Chocs, they won't believe you. It is their country and they know everything that is going on and not going on. :lol:

uaekid · Feb 10, 2009

Chocoholic wrote:Of course you won't find news articles, they're hardly going to publicise it are they?!

Like I said, I KNOW half the people who work in the media here, so I get the first hand inside info!

and what would make them so trustable dear choc, have the sworn on th bible to tell the truth and nothing but the truth ? if you know the media cho you will know it is a business after all, how would a non popular one get the attention ? cnn bbc and other ones, don't seem to have those sort of news you ppl have ? explain, are they scared of UAE GOV, no but they are a bit more pro than the ones you read, don't you think?.

Chocoholic · Feb 10, 2009

Well seeing as I've experienced and seen it myself! Yes!

kanelli · Feb 10, 2009

Ok, let's all agree to disagree.

Next topic?

naruto · Feb 10, 2009

kanelli wrote:Its the Sheikh's little country, he can do what he wants in the end.

It is you who needs to try harder to open your eyes and see that the UAE media is full of sh.i.t journalism and people are sacked and run out of town for doing something that offends someone important. If you don't think this kind of thing happens in the UAE, then you have a nice tight, thick blindfold on.

i open my eyes..honey i dont care about rumors or girls talk ..we dont live in the street to beleive what ever people say so u are the one who should open his eyes..i dont have to think about it ..if u have any offical evidence ..then i rest my case..other than than u are full of bull shiii..

naruto · Feb 10, 2009

Chocoholic wrote:Of course you won't find news articles, they're hardly going to publicise it are they?!

Like I said, I KNOW half the people who work in the media here, so I get the first hand inside info!

im still waiting for link source ...offical ..other than that it will be like selling fish in the sea..

naruto · Feb 10, 2009

Chocoholic wrote:Well seeing as I've experienced and seen it myself! Yes!

and this is the source ..ok me too i exprince it in ur country ..so does that make it a fact..

naruto · Feb 10, 2009

kanelli wrote:Nah Chocs, they won't believe you. It is their country and they know everything that is going on and not going on.

oh no ..u r the one who knows everything from rumors to gossip and girls talk ..hahahh ...

naruto · Feb 10, 2009

kanelli wrote:Ok, let's all agree to disagree.

Next topic?

i dont have to agree with u ..give something that prove ur point of view ..then i will think about it ..

Chocoholic · Feb 10, 2009

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