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mAJOR pAIN wrote:anyway FIRST THINGS FIRST IM CHRISTIAN !! and I know there is a Good number of REAL Christians around the World who will Support the Muslim Cause this Time ... cause really times like this where there are MORONIC INDIVIDUALS Who likes TO STIR and CREATE PROBLEMS we THE Children of GOD's Words .We Belong to the Sacred 3 Books of Faith and Life. WE are Brothers and Sisters in Faith so do speak we might have some DIFF.. but in TIMES Like this we should stand UNITED ...


Christianity, with a few minor exceptions, is extremily close to Islam. Christians are People of the Book and as such are respected in the Quran and by Muslims....

A real Christian will disavow the words Judeo-Christian west as nothing more that Zionist propaganda.

A real Christian will see that he has more in common with Muslims than the decadent West. A real Christian is a brother amongst men.

A real Christian will understand suffering as Jesus suffered much in his life and as such would feel for Muslims worldwide and hold their hands in support.

MP, you are not a Major Pain in my opinion but a Major Christian... Bless you.

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Such wise words Secret - I like you

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Guys, Arniegang and Kenalli


They may say that, i agree, but not with the passion and hatred that the likes of the few submit on here.

However in my humble opinion i disagree with your generalistaion.


What hatred did me or others submitt??? towards who???
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secretdubai wrote:Oh Liban you are a sad little troll aren't you?

We educated "westerners", and plenty of educated muslims, don't "despise" you. We pity you, and your childish threats against innocent people.

And for god's sake - you come from Lebanon. Have a look at your country's rating in corruption indices compared to Denmark or most of Europe.

I suggest you go and read the opinions of muslims who actually practice their religion - mercy, peace and tolerance - and grow the f&%K up.

http://www.mahmood.tv might be a good start for you


Right on!

And Liban, good luck trying to tell us that we are wrong about our Muslim friends. You have no right to say they are not true Muslims if they don't share your views or act and speak out like you do.
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an mostly all muslims are like that they nice people ... and very religou ..

unlike most christians in this forum some are bunch of hypocrytes they say

something when they mean another thing ... some are sooo incensitive

instead of just understanding and maintained a nutral response to this thread

to calm our muslim forumers instead they feed this thread until it actually

divided us forumers in two camps ... sice we are christians and we know that

our fellow Christians had done terrible acts of Blasphemy towards them ...

why cant we just console instead of disagree ??? cause im someone do

this to Jesus Christ they will, not try to say that those MORONS are right ..

yet they will console with out being intemidating ..

and yes we do have people here in Dubaiforums wher lets say have blown

Head wher its blown so big they loose the power to reason and be

sensitive .. again to the muslim community of dubai forums im sorry and

im ashamed of whats happening :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Liban wrote:
mAJOR pAIN wrote:anyway FIRST THINGS FIRST IM CHRISTIAN !! and I know there is a Good number of REAL Christians around the World who will Support the Muslim Cause this Time ... cause really times like this where there are MORONIC INDIVIDUALS Who likes TO STIR and CREATE PROBLEMS we THE Children of GOD's Words .We Belong to the Sacred 3 Books of Faith and Life. WE are Brothers and Sisters in Faith so do speak we might have some DIFF.. but in TIMES Like this we should stand UNITED ...


Christianity, with a few minor exceptions, is extremily close to Islam. Christians are People of the Book and as such are respected in the Quran and by Muslims....

A real Christian will disavow the words Judeo-Christian west as nothing more that Zionist propaganda.

A real Christian will see that he has more in common with Muslims than the decadent West. A real Christian is a brother amongst men.

A real Christian will understand suffering as Jesus suffered much in his life and as such would feel for Muslims worldwide and hold their hands in support.

MP, you are not a Major Pain in my opinion but a Major Christian... Bless you.


Ohhhhhhh i get it now, so its ok being a "true christian" as long as they smpathise with your views.

mmmmmmmmmmm very interesting.

Liban, you really do need to look up the word "hypocrite" in the dictionary


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Liban, if we are not allowed to speak of Islam because we are not followers, why do you speak of Christianity and judge who are real Christians or not? Please give us a list of rules that we are to follow, and then attach the list of rules that only you and people who agree with you are allowed to follow.

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yshimy wrote:Guys, Arniegang and Kenalli


They may say that, i agree, but not with the passion and hatred that the likes of the few submit on here.

However in my humble opinion i disagree with your generalistaion.


What hatred did me or others submitt??? towards who???



Do you have probelm reading Yshimy?

Do you understand the term "reading between the lines" ??

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And those who disagree with what a true Christian is end with what MAjor Pain says are not true Christians.... Most westerners are not Christians in the true sense but decadent children...

Say what you want, I do not care... You of no faith or you who doesn't understand Chrisitanity, you have no place in Heaven amongst men of honor... Men like Jesus, men like Nelson Mandela, men like Prophet Mohammed, men like Salahuddein, etc...
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Blah blah, avoid, judge, blah blah, judge, avoid, blah blah blah.
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Secret Dubai,

That is very mature from you attack Lebanon now, Check please the forum topic then start typing...!!!!!!!! Talking about mature ppl....

If you wanna start to talk about lebanon, start a new Fcuking Topic...


Arniegang, Kanelli, Choco....

Why you turn this about Muslims, and Christians, noone here talked about this cartoonist as christian nor about this act as Christian attack on Muslims?????!!!!!!!!!!

This is about an individual, who did an act agaist muslims and was supported by his country. They didn't appologize except when they knew that they will pay for it.

Thats what it is all about, i wonder where christianity came in here.

We may have talked about westerns, but not Christians. Do you know the difference??????
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kanelli wrote:Liban, if we are not allowed to speak of Islam because we are not followers, why do you speak of Christianity and judge who are real Christians or not? Please give us a list of rules that we are to follow, and then attach the list of rules that only you and people who agree with you are allowed to follow.

:lol:


Our "case rests" Kanelli.

Liban judges himself, of others and their faith, then speaks of our lack of understanding regarding his.

A true hypocrite and one of such blinded knowledge.

His wisdom is wasted within his hatred.
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arniegang wrote:MP

I will decide when this thread is locked and closed

End of.


yes very nice the great Moderator ... it only shows how educated you are .. giving such hostile remarks agains a very reasonable request

no basically what my post ment is there is no use of us being hostile to

one another !! abviously there are alot of muslims hurt regarding this

matter ... thats why there is a massive bopycott ... cause if they are mot

hurt the boycott will not have taken place at the first place ... DONT YOU

WESTERN EDUCATED PEOPLE as what youve put it ... do you have

muslim friends ?? i and out of this forums ?? so why dont we just stop this

argument before it turns out to be a muslim vs Christian debate ... and

guys please dont stir this topic more ... for the past years before you guys

come to dubaiforums .. we had managed to be civil and un hostile

regarding religious topics posted here .. apparently we have to respect

that ... so pls just dont stir this more and dont split the members of the

forum in to two .. i believe that this discussion has gone out of hand and it

should be locked and closed ... anyway all the things that needed to be

said has been said anyway .. we are just repeating ourselves and we are

not really resolving anything yet we are just now merely fighting .. and i

believe this is not what forums are supposed to be ... so if you are a just

educated and fair moderator arnie then i think you will lock this thread

and we all agree that we are all in draw ...


to all you reading this forum ... what do you feel isnt this a reasonable

request ??? was there any hatred in this ??? what do you think do you

think we should close this topic??? obviously our"EDUCATED" moderator seems to like to fight rather than to discuss ... very mature OH EDUCATED WESTERN ONE ...
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kanelli wrote:Blah blah, avoid, judge, blah blah, judge, avoid, blah blah blah.


Are you a goat????
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yshimy wrote:Secret Dubai,

That is very mature from you attack Lebanon now, Check please the forum topic then start typing...!!!!!!!! Talking about mature ppl....

If you wanna start to talk about lebanon, start a new Fcuking Topic...


Arniegang, Kanelli, Choco....

Why you turn this about Muslims, and Christians, noone here talked about this cartoonist as christian nor about this act as Christian attack on Muslims?????!!!!!!!!!!

This is about an individual, who did an act agaist
muslims and was supported by his country. They didn't appologize except when they knew that they will pay for it.


Thats what it is all about, i wonder where christianity came in here.

We may have talked about westerns, but not Christians. Do you know the difference??????



Millions of us "Westerners" are "Christians - you sad and ignorant person

:shock: :shock:
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For fu$% sakes! The Danes support free speech, even if it is bad. They did not say that they all enjoyed the cartoons and agreed that the editor should publish them! Learn how to read, and learn a bit more about democracy and free speech which has been hard won and for which people would spill blood for if their government tried to take it away.
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arniegang wrote:

Millions of us "Westerners" are "Christians - you sad and ignorant person

:shock: :shock:


No, true Christians in the west are few and far in numbers.... Those not disapproving and admitting fault in Denmark are not Christians...
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MP

I will decide when this thread is locked and closed

End of.
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I'm done with this topic,


No more posting, seems some people are picking fights and want to make it Chrisitan vs. Muslims.

This is shame
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Liban wrote:
arniegang wrote:

Millions of us "Westerners" are "Christians - you sad and ignorant person

:shock: :shock:


No, true Christians in the west are few and far in numbers.... Those not disapproving and admitting fault in Denmark are not Christians...


Why does anyone have to be Christian, Muslim or whatever? More importantly, why is this relevant?

Christians can also believe in free speech, even if they found the cartoons shameful and inappropriate. I'm surprised that I have to explain this!
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yshimy wrote:I'm done with this topic,


No more posting, seems some people are picking fights and want to make it Chrisitan vs. Muslims.

This is shame


Yes, that is a shame isn't it.

Too bad everyone wasn't athiest like me - it would make the world a better place :D
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yshimy wrote:Secret Dubai,

That is very mature from you attack Lebanon now, Check please the forum topic then start typing...!!!!!!!! Talking about mature ppl....

If you wanna start to talk about lebanon, start a new Fcuking Topic...


Arniegang, Kanelli, Choco....

Why you turn this about Muslims, and Christians, noone here talked about this cartoonist as christian nor about this act as Christian attack on Muslims?????!!!!!!!!!!

This is about an individual, who did an act agaist
muslims and was supported by his country. They didn't appologize except when they knew that they will pay for it.


Thats what it is all about, i wonder where christianity came in here.

We may have talked about westerns, but not Christians. Do you know the difference??????



Millions of us "Westerners" are "Christians - you sad and ignorant person

:shock: :shock:


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You fail to see your faults and from what I see here, its Westerners united against the Muslims on this list... GoodBai, Secret Dairy, Kanelli, Chocoholic, and Arniegang against Liban, Yshimy and MP (a true Christian)...

This is going nowhere since the westerners here are united against the Truth, God, and the religion of the country that houses and provides for them.

Whatever.
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kanelli wrote:Yes, that is a shame isn't it.

Too bad everyone wasn't athiest like me - it would make the world a better place :D


Will you have a good time when in Hell also?

I'm outta here.
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arniegang wrote:MP

I will decide when this thread is locked and closed

End of.



yes very nice the great Moderator ... it only shows how educated you are .. giving such hostile remarks agains a very reasonable request :




no basically what my post ment is there is no use of us being hostile to

one another !! abviously there are alot of muslims hurt regarding this

matter ... thats why there is a massive bopycott ... cause if they are mot

hurt the boycott will not have taken place at the first place ... DONT YOU

WESTERN EDUCATED PEOPLE as what youve put it ... do you have

muslim friends ?? i and out of this forums ?? so why dont we just stop this

argument before it turns out to be a muslim vs Christian debate ... and

guys please dont stir this topic more ... for the past years before you guys

come to dubaiforums .. we had managed to be civil and un hostile

regarding religious topics posted here .. apparently we have to respect

that ... so pls just dont stir this more and dont split the members of the

forum in to two .. i believe that this discussion has gone out of hand and it

should be locked and closed ... anyway all the things that needed to be

said has been said anyway .. we are just repeating ourselves and we are

not really resolving anything yet we are just now merely fighting .. and i

believe this is not what forums are supposed to be ... so if you are a just

educated and fair moderator arnie then i think you will lock this thread

and we all agree that we are all in draw ...


to all you reading this forum ... what do you feel isnt this a reasonable

request ??? was there any hatred in this ??? what do you think do you

think we should close this topic??? obviously our"EDUCATED" moderator seems to like to fight rather than to discuss ... very mature OH EDUCATED WESTERN ONE ...


"
I will decide when this thread is locked and closed

End of" very typical WESTERN very power hungry ... very childish ....

shame....
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Millions of us "Westerners" are "Christians - you sad and ignorant person

:shock: :shock:


No, true Christians in the west are few and far in numbers.... Those not disapproving and admitting fault in Denmark are not Christians...


Your ignorance disappoints me Liban. What right do you think you have to dictate to me or anyone else as "too what constitutes a true christian".
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Liban wrote:You fail to see your faults and from what I see here, its Westerners united against the Muslims on this list... GoodBai, Secret Dairy, Kanelli, Chocoholic, and Arniegang against Liban, Yshimy and MP (a true Christian)...

This is going nowhere since the westerners here are united against the Truth, God, and the religion of the country that houses and provides for them.

Whatever.


You are a rabid Muslim "I hate the West, they are at fault for everything" contributor to this board, but it is our fault if we bring up logical points about how destructive your attitude is, and how illogical your points are. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY! Many of us have said we sympathise with many Arab/Muslim issues! You are outnumber even by many Muslims on this board - many are just sitting quietly and watching the fur fly. Notice how not many are supporting you very often? Now who has the warped perceptions here Liban? All I ask is for you to stop being so hateful or else go and hang out with people you feel are fit enough to share your company. If you aren't trying to educate us and have a real dialogue - only want to spew hate - then consider sitting on your hands before you post. None of us are posting hateful things about Islam or Arabs! Do not mistake us disagreeing with some of your opinions on this site as further offence against Islam or Arabs - that is completly illogical!
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I wonder if Westerners here feel that the Cartoons, which were deliberately published with the intention of insulting the Prophet Mohammed, can be considered a form of free speech??


Why is a mutual respect for each other such a bad thing..... Why is an appology so difficult.....? Muslims never resort to such insults, and they never will.
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calkoon wrote:I've meet very few Westerners that are practicing Christians. A lost breed, yet many call them selves Christians as a conveniance.


I wonder if Westerners here feel that the Cartoons, which were deliberately published with the intention of insulting the Prophet Mohammed, can be considered a form of free speech??


Why is a mutual respect for each other such a bad thing..... Why is an appology so difficult.....? Muslims never resort to such insults, and they never will.


AMEN !!!
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calkoon wrote:I've meet very few Westerners that are practicing Christians. A lost breed, yet many call them selves Christians as a conveniance.


I wonder if Westerners here feel that the Cartoons, which were deliberately published with the intention of insulting the Prophet Mohammed, can be considered a form of free speech??


Why is a mutual respect for each other such a bad thing..... Why is an appology so difficult.....? Muslims never resort to such insults, and they never will.


AMEN !!!



MP - you are a serious hypocrite.

Just read back in fight club re : the comment you made about my mother who is sadly not with me, and has been gone peacefully for the last 26 years.

You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

Muslim or Christian you are one of the rudest and disrespectful people i have ever had the dis-pleasure of encountering.
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