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shafique wrote:

shafique wrote:..and then cried about seeing terrorists with rifles before shooting 9 dead.

BTW - what happened to this story about a rifle? Is this another case of early misinformation that vanishes under closer inspection?

Someone also should tell the US that the IHH has links to Al Qaeda as the Israelis allege - the US don't agree with Israel that it is a terrorist organistion (in fact, they seem to have done nothing more than President Carter and others have done - i.e. met with representatives of the elected party in Gaza):

From 2nd June at a US briefing:

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QUESTION: So the U.S. does not believe it has connections to al-Qaida?
MR. CROWLEY: We cannot validate that.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2010/06/142591.htm

Israel and its supporters claim that Viva Palestina, made up of people who collect the donated food, cement and items for providing basic amenities such as toilets, and transport them to Gaza, wanted the violence all along. Because presumably they must have been thinking "Hezbollah couldn't beat them, but that's because unlike us they didn't have a ballcock and several boxes of plum tomatoes".

Flying Dutchman wrote:An interview with an Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood parlement member, who participating in the flotilla, made quite some Israel bashers angry. He claimed "the flotilla participants overtook three Israeli commandos and snatched their weapons from them" and "Israel said that it was faced with armed men on the ship and that it was thus forced to clash with them. The parliament member said that he and those with him took over the commando's weapon and denied that he and those with him were civilians who had not committed violent acts."

Egyptain media responed that this is he PR gift to Israel.

Israel bashers seem to be in a dilemma. On the hand they want to be proud of the tough Flotilla members overtaking and ambushing the IDF, on the other hand they want to look their innocent selves. Same story with the picture editting of Reuters.

Netanyahu likely to widen remit of Gaza flotilla probe after judge threatens to quit

Government to bow to pressure from Justice Jacob Turkel, who says law demands a wider scope for inquiry into Israel's deadly raid on a Turkish-flagged aid ship a month ago

Despite wider remit, soldiers won't be questioned in Gaza flotilla probe

Turkel's demand for wider powers comes amid widespread media criticism that has painted the committee as being designed mainly to retroactively justify the blockade of Gaza.

The flotilla as metaphor

The negligence and arrogance that characterize this government's work, and which led to its military and diplomatic failures in handling the flotilla, are also reflected in subsequent developments.

Haaretz Editorial

The High Court of Justice yesterday rejected the government's excuses for failing to include a woman on the committee investigating May's raid on a Turkish flotilla to Gaza. In addition to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Justice Minister Yaakov Neeman, responsibility for ignoring the obligation to uphold the law on women's equality rests with committee chairman Jacob Turkel, himself a former Supreme Court justice.

The negligence and arrogance that characterize this government's work, and which led to its military and diplomatic failures in handling the flotilla, are also reflected in subsequent developments. They reveal a basic flaw in the way the government operates and in the conduct of its senior ministers, including Netanyahu, Neeman, Defense Minister Ehud Barak and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman (and it is puzzling that the latter has not been summoned to testify before the committee on the raid's diplomatic aspects ).

The key government officials who formulated Israel's position toward both the local and the international investigations failed, just as they failed in handling the flotilla itself. They established the Turkel Committee for a limited purpose: examining questions related to international law (imposition of the naval blockade, searching the ships, the use of force ). But the committee took the liberty of looking into other issues as well, which are more important from a public standpoint. The government decided that only Netanyahu, Barak and the Israel Defense Forces chief of staff would testify, but now it turns out that other generals will also be summoned.

It is good that the committee is doing so, but this in itself reveals the government's limited control over planning and execution. The committee grew from three to five members even before the subsequent addition of a woman (if the government accedes to the High Court's urging ). The two foreign observers are refusing to behave as puppets, and contrary to the government's decision, they will have access to classified material.

The Turkel Committee was meant to repel outside pressure to establish a UN committee. Israel first opposed the UN committee, and then reversed itself and agreed, arguing that it had nothing to hide. But it agreed only on the understanding that IDF soldiers would not be questioned - or in other words, it does have things to hide. Now, the UN secretary general has repudiated this understanding, and Israel is in trouble: It must either give in or quit the committee.

A government that behaves this way cannot be fixed. Israel's helm is not in good hands.