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women cannot "bulk up" and have huge muscles since they do not have enough testosterone. a big misconception is that if women lift weights they are destined to have toned muscles like bruce lee.

less weight and lots of reps will only get you lactic acid intolerance and give you no results on weight loss. if you google pictures of female Olympic power lifters who does the 5x5 workout, you'd be surprised how in good shape they are while maintaining a feminine shape. the OP wanted results about losing weight, and therefore means heavy weights+HIIT.

and btw, body builders are wasting their time since what they usually do is 8, 10, 12 reps for 3 sets and a lot of volume. thats why they get huge muscles without any functionality

to improve lactic acid tollerance, just do lots of reps until failure.

Xero, you honestly don't know what you're talking about. As someone who used to do competitive sport for years I can guarantee you that I can bulk up! This is my problem now, muscle memory and that my upper body can become ridiculously muscley.

Doing reps and increasing weight till muscle exhaustion can help, but I've found workouts like Turbulence trainnig really work - short sharp bursts of high intensity work wonders.

Forget exercise...liposuction is easier!



Knight

xero_ wrote:i disagree with most posts here. i suggest heavy weights and less reps+more sets. doing barbell squats 5x5 with a heavy weight will get you more muscle mass.

more muscle mass = more calories burned while resting. and as mentioned before, sprinting, swimming, and boxing are the best way to lose fat. oh and substitute any carbs such as rice and bread to leafy vegs like spinach not lettuce.

Hey what purpose does heavy lifting serve? I mean being fit means being able to swim through a flash-flood, carrying an injured mate to safety after he was caught in a mud slide, being able to outpace the cops after a night of drunken revelry to being able to fend ur lady from a bunch a pervs at the club, and finally being good in bed!!! To do all of those weight lifting serves absolutely no purpose. None watsoeva!
So cardio, with good body weight exercises coupled with a decent diet is the only way to fitness. Talkin bout cardio, Chocoholic's suggestion regarding turbulence training or interval training is simply brill. Interval training is in my opinion is quite simply the ultimate form of exercise. It burns of the calories and get you fit.........real fast!. Try Tabata!!!

yes tabata's do work and so does turbulence training. ive read about that from the local men's health mag. i do not do it since i smoke alot, and it causes me too much pain in the lungs.

turbulence training just works because of oxidization. you expend calories through heavy consumption of oxygen. it has nothing to do with real strength. basketball players and MMA fighters alike does the 5x5 workout combined with circuits such as HIIT. but if you want your training to be useful and not a waste of time lifting sissy weights, for example moving furniture and lifting groceries, then i suggest the 5x5.

Oh well you're a great advocate for being fit and healthy then aren't you? As MCL correctly states being muscly is one thing, but it shows no real fitness, not like you could run a marathon or anything or have any kind of stamina.

The kind of training you keep banging on about will not help Raidah, so please stop going on about it and leave it to the rest of us who actually know what we're talking about.

Misery Called Life wrote: and finally being good in bed!!! To do all of those weight lifting serves absolutely no purpose. None watsoeva!
So cardio, with good body weight exercises coupled with a decent diet is the only way to fitness. Talkin bout cardio, Chocoholic's suggestion regarding turbulence training or interval training is simply brill. Interval training is in my opinion is quite simply the ultimate form of exercise. It burns of the calories and get you fit.........real fast!. Try Tabata!!!

Good point, student. Sometimes it reminds me a run in full power on 5-10 km with fractional 100 meter distance in terms of time and heart-bit. So I thank my sporty past.

As for swimming it develops mostly hand's and breast's muscles and very good for burning calories but at my age it would be better to develop abdominal muscles in terms of esthetics. To be frank I have not found effective exersises for that,

RC, hate to break it to you mate but ads are made in the kitchen NOT in the gym! It's no good doing exercises to tone up your abs if you have a layer of chub over the top hiding them! Reduce carbs and eat a clean diet, drink tonnes of water.

Sit ups and all the rest of it are good for toning, but you need to think about working your entire core. Things like pilates which focus on the core muscles work best.

Chocoholic wrote:RC, hate to break it to you mate but ads are made in the kitchen NOT in the gym! It's no good doing exercises to tone up your abs if you have a layer of chub over the top hiding them! Reduce carbs and eat a clean diet, drink tonnes of water.

Sit ups and all the rest of it are good for toning, but you need to think about working your entire core. Things like pilates which focus on the core muscles work best.

I can only partly agree and I have excluded bread and beer (the most difficalt) from my diet and eat as little as possible but I cannot believe that anybody knows what perfect diet is. So phisical training is my baby and as soon as swimming is good for breast and hands there is another activity for abs.

On the other hand I have realized that swimming makes muscles more static, which is bad for a punch in boxing or a spike in volleyball.

Every sport requires a specific kind of fitness: 100m sprinters need speed, marathon runners require endurance. Boxers need flexibility, speed and endurance.
But the original question related to how one looks.

If one is slightly overweight you must take in a few less calories than you expend. That is the basis for losing weight. If you take in too few calories your body will go into starvation mode and will try at all costs to retain body fat, to be used as energy later.
Aerobic exercise will aid weight loss. Anerobic exercise (weights) done with hih reps will tone and shape.

smoggie wrote:If one is slightly overweight you must take in a few less calories than you expend. That is the basis for losing weight. If you take in too few calories your body will go into starvation mode and will try at all costs to retain body fat, to be used as energy later.

It's absolutely baseless statement because nobody knows how energetic balance works for a man. For instance if I eat twice against my day norm I should double my weight in a year but it isn't gonna happen. We only know how to burn calories in a physical training. That's why in my view regular training is a key point.

That's why in my view regular training is a key point.

Well if that strategy works for you, that is all that matters.

Red Chief wrote:

Misery Called Life wrote: and finally being good in bed!!! To do all of those weight lifting serves absolutely no purpose. None watsoeva!
So cardio, with good body weight exercises coupled with a decent diet is the only way to fitness. Talkin bout cardio, Chocoholic's suggestion regarding turbulence training or interval training is simply brill. Interval training is in my opinion is quite simply the ultimate form of exercise. It burns of the calories and get you fit.........real fast!. Try Tabata!!!

Good point, student. Sometimes it reminds me a run in full power on 5-10 km with fractional 100 meter distance in terms of time and heart-bit. So I thank my sporty past.

As for swimming it develops mostly hand's and breast's muscles and very good for burning calories but at my age it would be better to develop abdominal muscles in terms of esthetics. To be frank I have not found effective exersises for that,

5-10 kms? Hoot hoot, that's quite awsome man!
Agree with ur views on swimming, Intensive swimming does give you this amazing tone. The breast stroke coupled with the butterfly stroke, is just great for the arms, shoulders and chest.
That said I've never seen fit older men sport flat stomachs. I'm assuming ur in the range of 50 and about. I guess at that age most men are just worried about weight. As long as their BMI falls within the acceptable range, they're good. That said I think older men derive their sex appeal from strong arms and good broad shoulders a la Mr.Putin as opposed to tight flat stomachs.

Misery Called Life wrote:
That said I've never seen fit older men sport flat stomachs. I'm assuming ur in the range of 50 and about. I guess at that age most men are just worried about weight. As long as their BMI falls within the acceptable range, they're good. That said I think older men derive their love appeal from strong arms and good broad shoulders a la Mr.Putin as opposed to tight flat stomachs.

I am 40 y.o. and 187 cm in height. So I'm much younger, taller and broader in shoulders than Mr. Putin. On the other hand he looks pretty fit in his 58 y.o. I must say.

As for worry about weight it's not about age but rather the girl you walk with.

Red Chief wrote:I am 40 y.o. and 187 cm in height. So I'm much younger, taller and broader in shoulders

Women are ya'll listening? Raidah, Chocoholic, RudeBoy.......

Red Chief wrote:As for worry about weight it's not about age but rather the girl you walk with.

Oy chiefster, you going the Mel Gibson way or what? Seems like you've found ur Oksana man

But seriously RC it does seem like you've built yourself a fit bod.... Keep up the good work!

"You are only as old as the women you feel..."



Knight

Misery Called Life wrote: Seems like you've found ur Oksana man

He-he She looks rather like Ozawa. $hit, it seems I caught something like yellow fever too.

But seriously RC it does seem like you've built yourself a fit bod.... Keep up the good work!

You read my post w/o attention. Now I'm thinking about abs. Chocks advised pilates. I guess I should try it. What do you think?

Hahaha I love swimming it's such great exercise, BUT the downside is it makes me ravenous! So it's a mission not to stuff my face after swimming 30 lengths.

Sounds like you're doing well RC.

DK - hahaha typical!

As I remember my younger brother, he was a professional boxer in the past, used a skipping rope for losing weight before important fights.
As load on feet in this kind of a training is pure dynamic the muscles will not be visible at all.

Red Chief wrote:As I remember my younger brother, he was a professional boxer in the past, used a skipping rope for losing weight before important fights.
As load on feet in this kind of a training is pure dynamic the muscles will not be visible at all.

Skipping is an amazing workout - it's one of the staple workouts of boxers and fighters.

Ever tried a workout on a trampoline? Works miracles!

Chocoholic wrote:
Skipping is an amazing workout - it's one of the staple workouts of boxers and fighters.

Ever tried a workout on a trampoline? Works miracles!

Agreed:

Red Chief wrote:You read my post w/o attention. Now I'm thinking about abs. Chocks advised pilates. I guess I should try it. What do you think?

I think Yeaa, you should go for it!!! Pilate focuses on the core, and that will tone not just the torso region but strengthen ur back too. So all you need now is a good instructor.

-- Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:53 pm --

Dubai Knight wrote:"You are only as old as the women you feel..."



Knight

Should we substitute Hefner with DK?

so this is what i do. i eat only raw food for a few weeks, vegetables, salads, fruits and a bit of fish here. i actually have a lot of energy, i dont miss warm cooked food as much as i thought i would. this detox cleans out the boddy really well and though i cant tell i have lost weight, the clothes started to fit better.

Misery Called Life wrote:



Should we substitute Hefner with DK?

Heff often calls me for advice!

We have been warned many times about the health dangers of older men dating gorgeous young nymphettes. We also both agree that if she dies, she dies!



Knight

chocoholic you should learn to read, as i've said earlier women do not get "MUSCLY" because they tend to have very low testosterone. the least that could happen if you do 5x5 is become lean and lose all the fat while maintaining real strength. and real strength is good because stronger people are usually harder to kill.

now go to any gym and see the fat people training daily on the treadmill, then go and see the people training with the heavy weights and you will see the which training produces actual results.

now if your purpose is to be fit in a fight or in emergency situations, it does not require your body to be exerted at 150% for 120 minutes but rather 40 seconds or less. this means doing exercises that mimics power such as the snatch, clean and jerk, etc... honestly if you were to drown in a flood will you be swimming for 40 hours? no, you will be finding the nearest tree log for 20 seconds.

it seems you are a cross-fit nazi, if raidah wants to be thin, lanky, and weak then go ahead and teach her your 40k 2 hours marathon fat loss technique

xero, clearly you don't read! As I have said before, I used to do alot of competitive sport, I AM a woman and I guarantee you that I bulk up if I go for heavy weights. Now button it!

I have worked on numerous fitness programmes, I have 3 mates who are personal trainers, so I think I know what I'm talkin about. Whereas you don't consider anything else but heavy lifting!

Now toddle off, because you clearly didn't read what Raidah was asking for.

-- Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:20 am --

raidah wrote:so this is what i do. i eat only raw food for a few weeks, vegetables, salads, fruits and a bit of fish here. i actually have a lot of energy, i dont miss warm cooked food as much as i thought i would. this detox cleans out the boddy really well and though i cant tell i have lost weight, the clothes started to fit better.

Good for you Raidah, keep it up.

xero_ wrote:now go to any gym and see the fat people training daily on the treadmill, then go and see the people training with the heavy weights and you will see the which training produces actual results.

Heavy weight produces real result on your spine. I have so many people around me who are suffering with back after 45, including surgery on spine.

On the other hand heavy weight makes muscles static.

Red Chief wrote:

xero_ wrote:now go to any gym and see the fat people training daily on the treadmill, then go and see the people training with the heavy weights and you will see the which training produces actual results.

Heavy weight produces real result on your spine. I have so many people around me who are suffering with back after 45, including surgery on spine.

On the other hand heavy weight makes muscles static.

That's because sadly RC, the majority of people I see working with weights don't lift them correctly - they use their backs instead of their legs! You should never ever bend your back when lifting weights, or flex your torse to give leverage to lift the weights, this is extremely damaging.

Chocoholic wrote:That's because sadly RC, the majority of people I see working with weights don't lift them correctly - they use their backs instead of their legs! You should never ever bend your back when lifting weights, or flex your torse to give leverage to lift the weights, this is extremely damaging.

I don't think that it's the only problem. I for one use only my own body as a load. Swimming is the perfect training for people who have problem with spine but it looks that more than 70% of them have such a problem after 45 y.o.