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Why are moderators allowing trolls to dump all over forums?


xero_ uaekid not replying? maybe he crashed his suzuki swift (double tinted) in a street light pole? :lol:
uaekid
Canadian kissing brits as* :shock: that's a first
hi kanelli.. stop feeding the troll 8)
now humpy there called my posts anti-British news articles , purely inflammatory and crap it's just funny cuz you and the other Parrots did not pay attention that the articles are from the UK media if you haven't notes, but again you are brits the smart bright future of the world :roll: kanelli There absolutely needs to be banning on this forum. Before I didn't think so, but when you see how much crap the trolls bring to the forum, it really should be done. Speedhump
Muppet Of Destruction?
Maniac On Diazepam?
Master Of Drivel?
:idea: Speedhump
Interesting, you're actually ENCOURAGING one of them by pre-empting their invective hahaha.
I'm not not attacking the style of moderating, it's your joint call, I know. I'm advocating tolerance but only within bounds which take into account the needs of the majority (as I assume them to be, I know I can only speak for myself). It's completely valid reasoning. Speedhump
I already said that I don't believe that freedom of speech is a valid reason to let some people hijack threads, and take them in completely another direction, which is often either specifically racially motivated, or otherwise an East vs West rant, and has NOTHING to do with the topic under discussion. On the other hand if you want to say that in the anti-western threads THEY start they are perfectly entitled to vomit their poison, OK I hear you and of course it's all your call, I imagine.
However, I usually expect mods to move threads to other forums when they have become off-TOPIC. How about a 'Embittered Muslims' forum where these posts could be sent to, that should not offend your wish to give them freedom of speech and it also means that we don't have to wade through garbage when trying to have a discussion......?
Again, just my two cents. arniegang free speech like Sage said it is something we pride ourselves on. UaeKid and Muppetbanglyboy probably wont understand the concept of free speech in their own countries. And Kid, before you make comment, show me an article in any Gulf Paper that makes any form of critisism of Shiek Mo and i will take back everything i said. TheChoosen "western" ifluence already?? LOL uaekid
ohhh com'aan baby you know you love me :wink: you know you do :oops:
and yes , I will be your toy anytime of the day. come..play me meeeaaaooo :shock: uaekid Wow, all of this is for me, what a great thread to read with my protein shack , well I just want to get you guys in my shoes, now you know how it feels, and yes I do have the advantage cuz unlike the west, our media sucks and can't get anything from it so I can keep this going for every until someone's stops the Hatred toward my country, that’s what I'm here for after all, no one gain anything from many stupid unusable subjects a couple of ppl here posts neither. Why is it when I only did it complains are raining on me, I know it makes the forum sucks but if this how you want it to be ,use the forum to spread your sick views of the country in this way then we all can play this dirty came, after all I'm just exercising my freedom of speech but I guess it hurts being against you . But hey if those posts makes such a crying babies then fine I'll stop it, I don't want to add a negative atmosphere to the forum than it is already. but be fare when you Criticizes and do not discriminate.

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Speedhump Just a question guys. It's starkly obvious that two or three members of this website just post anti-British news articles, anything they can find about the British economy or society. It's done in a purely inflammatory way. All other forum members (of many nationalities, I can see) exist in reasonable harmony. What does this rubbish all have to do with Dubai? What is the point of moderators? I thought this would be a great place to discuss our shared experiences of Dubai. Instead I just get the stink of these few bitter individuals everywhere, like cat urine. I don't think 'freedom of speech' covers your over-tolerance of this baiting. To spoil the fun of the majority is 100 pct anti-social. We're in Dubai after all, anything can be censored. As I said, just a question. Chocoholic Sadly, some mods want to ban, others don't! It's a problem. Speedhump Frankly it's the only answer to the childishness that's going on. Under the cover of anonimity these little cowards spew their anti-western hatred unchecked. A post about cars being left at the airport turns into an anti-UK tirade. I've learned quickly that they post without logic or thought, and so I can see (as of today) there is no reasoning with such idiocy. Speedhump This feels like fishing, dangle your bait in the water...one will come along in a minute and bite.... 8) zzzane Don't feed the trolls and they'll die a natural death. Chocoholic yeah, some of the trolls like MB, we enjoy toying with, but most of the time if you just ignore them they get bored and move along. Speedhump yep I'll cut back on the replies, but doing the 'we are so great' bit really annoys them. :angel11: arniegang Brit bashing shouldn't bother us. At lease we are realistic and take it on the nose. Like kids post about Britain from the times. No probs, we read about it here in our papers and on the TV. He is only telling us something we already know. On the other hand and in contrast to Dubai, we have some numpty policeman swearing to God that only 11 cars were left at the Airport and Shiek Mo told him to be honest - yea right we all believe that. :lol: sage & onion The forum is free for all to post reasonably, everyone has their own point of view and should be free to discuss that. The only point where the Moderators have to step in, is when it becomes openly abusive, which we have and are doing. Because one or more of us do not accept another's point of view does not mean that the person should be barred from using the forum. After all said and done freedom of speech is something that many of us are proud to uphold.
TheChoosen
Admins.....make him a MOD....will be very funny :lol: :lol: :shock: :twisted: Chocoholic Not bloody likely! Speedhump
I am having a discussion with a guy called Humbleman on another forum. We are in disagreement but it is a civilised debate. On the other hand the stupid children that just post 'Britain is getting what it deserves', and 'LOOOOOL', and spam every forum with 'just visiting' (against the rules) don't actually deserve to be allowed to join in as they have nothing to contribute, only bitterness and anger! :D Chocoholic MB has been temporarily banned by Admin! kanelli uaekid, what you haven't realized is that just because some of the posters criticize things that don't work, are hypocritical etc. in the UAE, doesn't mean we are Arab haters, Muslim religion and Middle East culture haters - unlike some of those who have been posting recently to say very hateful things about Westerners and non-Muslims. I don't expect you to be able to tell the difference, because you get your back up anytime there is criticism of anything UAE. The government even has rules in force in this country to stop/punish people from publishing things that bring a bad light to the UAE - so there you go, institutionalized muzzling. Speedhump
Kanelli, you of course are right. A people living under benevolent despotic rule do not expect to question things, they accept what is given. The notion of criticism to effect change is not known to them. They in fact are often afraid of or and violently reject 'freedom' as we know it, seing it as bad or even evil, and the necessity to complain, argue, debate with leaders is not understood. At least the UAE softens this to some extent, unlike Saudi for example, and Kuwait holds Governmental and Municipal elections for officials; while there were allegations of vote-buying, and hardly any women candicates were elected, it is a good start for democracy, if they really want it.
Let's see if uaekid can take part in an intelligent debate about this. I personally think he's only here for the wind-ups. kanelli He's definitely here for wind-ups :D uaekid Chocoholic,
am I suppose to be scared of your last post ? are threatening me ? if this is the case , I will make sure it get blocked, don't push it dear. Even though I'm against such a thing.
Kanelli,
I never talked about others religions ,my posts are still there, you can take another look at neither I hate westerns as all, some are family members of mine and they are brit's !! and I will only speak the same language I'm spoken to.
Humpy,
I don't know how to say this but what is it you and the others have to do with UAE GOV ?even if it has nothing good at all, what is it you got to lose ? Either locals are happy or not, what is you involvement in the issue? and so what if our media is hiding real news ? what is it you have to do with us being accepting what we are given or not ? I don't get , is it just Curiosity Or is it a Intrusion to a one GOV interior policy ? let me know why is it you guys are involving your self in our lives?
And if you wana compare our living to yours, you know you will lose this game , we all know what is going on in UK but why would I care?
Finally don't you all see it hypocrite form your side just a bit that you don't mind all of UAE and US as long as you are getting paid and got a job, I mean you should have some principles in life not to be in a such a country ! uaekid
hi brits kisser :lol:
get over your self dear, you are Canadian for god sack, you are not even on the western map LOOOL it is enough the millions of jokes the Americans are doing on you, I don't need to add more..get lost , I don't like you :shock: Chocoholic Kid what are you rambling on about? I've got no beef with you. merely passing on the info that MB is currently banned my the site Administrator! Only 2 people have the power to do that, him and one other mod, which is not me! Admin has taken the decision, based on what he has read of MB's posts. End of. Speedhump
You can see from above it's pure paranoia, unless I have missed some pretty abusive previous (old) posts from Westerners against the UAE as a whole, which I doubt. kanelli uaekid, it isn't my problem if you can't understand my plain English in my initial post. Where did I say that you talk about other people's religions?
Here is what you wrote

My response was

Did you see the other thread where I posted the links to about 5 or 6 threads where you were being negative about the UK? You can be negative about other people's countries, but don't like negative articles about the UAE? You think that muslimbangladeshi is cool for posting mean, rude, and hateful things about Westerners and Western countries? Wow, we should all look up to you when it comes to logical arguments and absence of hypocrisy.
Like I said, we don't spread hate about your country, we just criticize some local happenings, policies and the way the media reports things etc. Why? Because it affects people's lives as residents, investors or frequent travelers there. People are critical of things in other countries too, they just write about it on those forums. This is Dubai Forums. Speedhump
Kanelli,
I'd choose Canada over the US anyday, I think more Americans are agreeing:
"In 2006, 10,942 Americans went to Canada, compared with 9,262 in 2005 and 5,828 in 2000, according to a survey by the Association for Canadian Studies....
The current increase appears to be fueled largely by social and political reasons, says Jedwab, based on anecdotal evidence.
"Those who are coming have the highest level of education — these aren't people who can't get a job in the states," he says. "They're coming because many of them don't like the politics, the Iraq War and the security situation in the U.S. By comparison, Canada is a tension-free place. People feel safer...."
:D :wink: uaekid
I thought you are in canada ? so you for one should stop posting anything regarding UAE ,agree ? you are not their lawer, are you ?
but let me know how there were no such complains when ppl were cashing out from UAE ? only now it's a bad one ? Speedhump
One question. You just joined here in November 2008, do you actually know what was discussed before then? I only joined recently too, but I will be prepared GUARANTEE you that posters here have always had these discussions about their experiences of Dubai.
It's a fact that wherever people live they like to discuss that place, even if it is their home country. They like to talk about what they like and what they don't, what they think is good and what is not. If you have lived somewhere other than Dubai you will have done it too. It is not disrespectful and not illegal. It is human. I am very happy being here, but nowhere is perfect (PLEASE don't bring up the UK again, nobody claims that is perfect either, in fact far from it, why do you think I am here?).
I'm trying to be reasonable in my words to you, if you still have some complaints, I will appreciate if you will do the same in return. Thanks. uaekid no need to man, I'm not serious about the hall thing anyway neither care but again lets be reasonable in out post here, you wana criticize go a head do, it's not like I can control it or want to , I learned things from DF my self that I didn't know before and it was great and fun for sometime but when thing turned nasty around the general forum so did I Chocoholic Constructive criticism is always good - that's how we learn and improve. Slagging off for the sake off it is a whole other matter. There are things wrong with every city in every country. Some people's actions and attitudes tar their whole nation. e.g. I was walking by myself in Garhoud the other night, going back to my car as I had to park quite away from where I was going. When some complete idiot pulls along side me and starts to try and coerce me into his car! I mean WTF! Needless to say I told him where to get off, even though I was quite scared at the time as there was no-one else in the street! But I'm not going to brand all people of this guys nationality (Ireally don't have to mention it) for the actions of this one idiot! Speedhump
I can tell you're young and hotheaded. Even your tag line is a lttle too agressive to be mature. But don't take it as criticism. Some things only come with age.
If you find something offensive, how about just saying so in a quiet way, your point would still get addressed, and you should get more intelligent replies too.
But, we all agree, westerners just do not see all things the same way as locals, nothing to be done about that. Example, here, in business, someone may tell you something which you both know to be untrue, but it is considered really impolite to say so to their face. They may be saying it just to avoid a confrontation/argument, which is very normal amongst Arabs (in business, anyway).
This is hard for us to accept sometimes, and that's just one small example. Our cultures are waaay apart, but that should be a subject for discussion and even enjoyment, whether we can agree or not. I for one preferred Dubai when it was less westernised, but things change.
If you want to be taken seriously, calm down. :wink: kanelli No uaekid, I'm not living in Canada right now. I've been living abroad for 9 years and currently living in a 3rd country. I've got lots of criticism of this place too, as well as about Canada and the other countries I have lived in. I haven't posted articles that are against your country. I read and react to many posts on many different topics in this forum, and have been doing so since 2005. Wednesday Jones Kanelli, I'll help you let the tyres down on uaekid's Suzuki Swift (tinted windows) if you like. :twisted: uaekid LOOOOL between you and me guys I did that ones to a guy at work when I saw his car parked outside a coffees cuz he pissed me off in a meeting ones. and for you jones boy if you see how big my biceps are, you wouldn't wana get close to me or my tiers ,not unless you want me to replace the tire with your head :shock: p.s :you have been added to my DF buddylist, sleep with one eye open joney boy. RobbyG
Don't feel so cornered dude.
Start realizing you lost on a forum you'll never win from. The biased view is aimed for Westerners. BUT, everything is open for discussion and there are alot of Westerners willing to give in and say they are wrong about an issue.
Unfortunately, that same type of reasonability is not mutual between you, MB and other single minded freaks around here on DF.
So widen those tolerances. Open the boundaries and view the world, from a Western perspective. Then you understand some of the comments better. Sure were biased. And YES its magnified, but only because we are in large numbers on DF. Lot of words, with the 'same' message.
:wink:
Never gonna win it. Basic arithmatic... uaekid
It has nothing to do with winning or losing robbyG, it is not a competition, and trust when I say this, as my name tells, I'm a kid, never take things serious at least not with you guys, I understand what you stand for and how you stand for it and where you came from, you have a diff perspective in life than we do so be it, it's not going to kill me or effect me in anyway.
But it is a sham how you guys are dealing with issues discussed ( either my way or the high way ) and I can't help it.
So I'm not sure should I Congratulate you or Condoles you on your winning robbyG. :shock:
p.s stop feeding the troll :lol: Speedhump
You're getting fat on our great diet of troll food....! :naka: naruto speed hump Members of this forum have the right to post whatever they want as long as its usefull to the forum..its your problem if you think that this may coz hatred or its annoying for you..we have so many expact from all over the world and they are happy to hear any news about their homeland..therefor if you post anything about UAE whather it was negative or positive we will accept it , so bear us if we post negative news about UK or US Wednesday Jones
Mods, do we really have to put up with such threats and language? Not that I'm scared. Actually it's his spelling and use of teenage txt-speak that I find most offensive. LOOOOL?
Honestly! :roll:
Anyway, I have made a point, like most others as far as I have read of skipping over his inane anti-Brit bashing ramblings, life is too short. K-Dog He just likes to talk big Jones. Just go back and look at his posts when he was firefingers. I heard he got his a.s.s. kicked after that debacle. Ignore the troll. Chocoholic
And that makes you feel like a man does it? Big and clever? Pathetic! Just rmember the bigger they come, the harder they fall! David and Goliath anyone? Wednesday Jones [quote="uaekid"] ...cuz he pissed me off in a meeting ones....
quote]
For 'meeting' read 'detenshun in skool'
:lol: Speedhump
If all you ever post is negative news, it makes it obvious you are just a hater :roll: The whole point is that you don't live in the UK, so you and people like muslibangaladeshi have no reason whatsoever to post constantly bad news about the UK, except quite obviously to annoy people here. Everyone can see that so it's pretty pointless trying to defend your constant trashing of the UK, by saying that expats want to hear bad news about their homeland.You don't post messages about the riots on the streets in Greece and Italy do you? No, of course you don't.
Did you even READ my post above to uaekid as to why we discuss things which we could wish improved in the country in which we now live. Your reasoning is completely faulty, and stems from your paranoia that every criticism of UAE is bad. Go and move to the UK and complain there about the UK. THAT would make sense. Looks like you're the current troll then...... K-Dog Exactly Speedhump. This is a "Dubai" forum and we are here to discuss things about "Dubai" kanelli Actually, reading the negative economic news for US and UK right now doesn't bother me in the slightest. I've been reading about the economic situation in many countries because this is a GLOBAL crisis. I can hack it someone posts negative economic news about Canada, because it is a fact. Some can't handle simple facts about the economic status of the UAE right now. Everything has to be fine and dandy here... no negativity or else it is an attack on the country and its people. How logical. Speedhump
Same here, there is bad news the whole world over, so what? What is bothersome is the attitude of the posters. Wednesday Jones Dubai is not an island protected in cotton wool by its own exclusivity, as Chocoholic said, it's a GLOBAL crisis, everyone is affected to some extent and there will be cooperation, GLOBAL cooperation to effect recovery. Even Dubai needs external help, whether from Abu Dhabi or further afield. I totally agree, this is a Dubai forum, Naruto, if you want to enter into comprehensive discussion about UK or US or anywhere else, why don't you join other more relevant sites? And, in case it has escaped your notice, there are other Exapts in Dubai, not just US/UK/Canadians, lots of Dutch, Scandinavians, French, Germans too....and more Speedhump In fact these guys don't even realize, Brits love to moan about the state of their nation, its always been a national trait, and it stops politicians getting too comfortable. It's only the childish gloating that I find ridiculous (*envisions troll looking up word gloating*). Wednesday Jones Yeah, moaning about the weather is a national past time too! Is it because the weather doesn't change much here that trolls have time on their hands to winge and gripe about the UK? Chocoholic yes yes, unfortunately it's true, we are a nation of moaners! Wednesday Jones nah, I prefer 'stoic', and 'hardy'. It makes us strong! Chocoholic With a stiff upper lip. Oh and let's not forget our other national pass time is queuing! Wednesday Jones OH GOD! That is a whole new subject!! I have learned to bite my lip when I'm trampled over by people not understanding the concept of personal space or politely forming a line one after the other because the person in front has been there waiting patiently for longer. I've also developed sharp elbows... :twisted: Speedhump
That and of course everything else is just PERFECT here.
This is still a young nation and will learn from it's mistakes. But the eyes of the world are on the UAE now, and especially Dubai. By making a BIG fuss about these type of things they get fixed quickly, and bad press is reduced. I actually love living here, and I absolutely want Dubai to be the best it can, so heck, yes, I will say 'fix this', 'I think that's wrong' 'how about doing this', etc. etc :D
For example, if I were these guys I would be furious that the Municipality did not make adequate provision for sewage treatment before allowing the incredible amount of house building approved, hence the illegal sewage dumping and the spoiling of Dubai's beautiful beaches. I would be talking about it in forums like this.
BUT, this is NOT an elected government and is NOT answerable to either nationals or expats any further than it wants to be! From a western perspective it makes no sense, but locals will just shrug their shoulders and say 'nothing to be done'. They won't accept that it is only by exposing the wrongs to the light that they get righted.
The UAE's beaches never before needed to apply for international 'Blue Flag' status, but now they are having to, or the needed tourists will stop coming. I woudn't mind actually, Dubai is far too full of foreigners over the last few years :D Chocoholic That's exactly the point, if people don't tell you what's wrong and how to improve, how are you ever going to learn?! Same old story here in the UAE they build and have all these amazing ideas, but basic infrastructure and how services and amenities will cope is always and after thought. Speedhump
LOL. my daughter just shouts shohada! (not sure how it's spelled, 'what's going on!) and walks to the front. Problem is it's usually all indians pushing in so they don't have a clue what she's on about...she looks a bit Lebanese though. uaekid hummm .. well humpy I thought we agreed to be polite, didn't we. or the moderators rules does not apply on you and the others insulting me now :?: in any case I'm busy with my cute garden for now and I'll stop (forced) to stop the fighting as they call it ! so can't do anything,dam it, I miss doing what I use to do 8) uaekid
I thought you have no beef with me choc, when will this stop ? Chocoholic I don't but that kind of attitude and action is ridiculous from anyone! kanelli Chocs, please don't feed the troll. uaekid well sorry choc , I cant talk the mod is shutting me up, he keeps deleting my replies. can't help it. Speedhump
1.you can tell me how I was impolite as I'd like to know?
2.as for others, I don't speak for them but I can see there is some history here, so not really for me to get involved.



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