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Whose fault is it ??


uaekid
let me quote some of your prevoues post post here dear kanelli .
1- Well, in my opinion there is nothing wrong with bumping a thread up on the list if it has been falling to where people can't see it .
so who is the troll ?
2-Everyone has a right to give an opinion here, and when it comes to religious opinions, you can be sure that people will strongly disagree.
you are taking this right away from me ,aren't you ?
3-Some good points in there .... I'd still like to point out that this thread was meant for discussion. [b]Why are you trying to silence anyone who wants to discuss in it? If you don't like it, don't post [/b]
no comment...
4- Ahmed, if you take such offense, why not leave the forum as you promised before? No one forces you to read this forum!
again...
uaekid Why a Jew can grow his beard in order to practice his faith?
But when Muslim does the same, he is an extremist and terrorist?!
Why a nun can be covered head to toe in order to devote herself to God...
But when Muslimah does the same she 'oppressed' ?!
When a western women stays a home to look after her house and kids she is respected because of sacrificing herself and doing good for the household?
But when a Muslim woman does so by her will, they say, 'she needs to be liberated' ?
Any girl can go to university wearing what she wills and have her rights and freedom
But when Muslimah wears a Hijab they prevent her from entering her university?!
When a Child dedicates himself to a subject he has potential
But when he dedicates himself to Islam he is hopeless ?!
When a Christian or a Jew kills someone, religion is not mentioned!
But when a Muslim is charged with a crime, it is Islam that goes to trial ?!
When someone sacrifices himself to keep others alive, he is noble and all respect him ...
But when a Palestinian does that to save his son from being killed, his brother's arm being broken, his mother being raped, his home being destroyed, and his masjid being violated -- He gets the title of a terrorist
is it the media ?
is it all political ?
or is it you who can't think individually anymore ? mesheditor this is a fact uaekid, its a a war declared against islam. however, the more they fight it the stronger it becomes and more and more people covert to islam. TheChoosen Pls submit your political (religious) statements including your CV to: or They might be interested in you Humbleman Uaekid, very true, I’ve been asking myself the same questions because of seen everyone of your questions in practice in the real life.
If you could allow me to add this question to the mix.
Why when Muslims or people who have a Middle Eastern look travel through Western airports are more likely to be stopped and search for no obvious reason except the look or the religion?
But when Western people travel through Muslims or Arabs airports they encounter nothing but respect. Humbleman From my observation, I’d say it’s both, the Media and the governments. I feel there is a covert campaign which has been going on for so many years which intended to discredit any achievement by the Arab or Muslims in general. I’ve been following the Media for sometime, and they hardly portrayed Muslims or Arabs in a positive image, instead they portray them as violent, underdeveloped, have no respect for women and so on. Because, I was born in the Gulf myself I know that what I hear from these media is utterly untrue, but then it made me laugh at these media’s intolerant and made me proud of the fact that speaking ill of others is an unacceptable in the Arabs world and prohibited in Islam. Remember the Oklahoma City bombing, it was the deadliest act of terrorism on US soil until September 11 attack. It was committed by a Christian guy whose family original Irish, but was there mentioning of his religion in the Media, not at all. Compare it this low profile story, a guy whose New Zealander stabbed two guys because they made a sexual advancement on him, in 6 o. clock news they covered the story and they kept repeating that the guy was a Muslim as if they want the viewers to associate the guy with his religion. Until this day, I can’t see the logic of pointing out the guy’s religion. Lots of people in Australia and New Zealand and am sure in other Western countries have no idea what’s the exact cause of the conflict between Israel and Palestine. Why, because there is no mentioning of the occupation and the suffering of the Palestinians people at all in the Media. Instead they show Palestinians when they are protesting angrily and firing guns in the street to frustrate their anger and despair. People who view these sort of image and have no clue why these people doing that, would unwittingly think these people are violent and trouble maker. But when the media show the Israelis, they show them in very civilized way, they never show the ugly side of the Israeli’s government, the destruction of thousands of Palestinians homes, confiscation of their farms, the fact that they forced these people out of their lands and brought new settlers to replace them and so. Even now, when over 1000 Palestinians have died, more than half of them women and children, the media still not telling the truth behind the conflict. All what they have been saying is that, Hamas has been firing rockets into Israeli cities for no reason, and Israel has decided to defended itself. There is no mentioning that these so called “Israeli cities” are used be Palestinian homes before they dumped and crammed into Gaza. There is no mentioning of the fact that during the cease fire Israel has kept it blockade and assassination. It’s absolutely unfair muslimbangladeshi And yet some moron german made a stupid post who is not criticized. And yet when I mention these truths that you brothers have mentioned, some fools charge at me violently (mostly Westerners and their minions) muslimbangladeshi I also find it hypocritical to blame a tiny terrorist regime like the Zionists. The bigger culprit and the biggest culprit of the world -USA and UK- are not even criticized by you, the masses! USA alone has killed more than million civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan, that is about the entire population of Gaza! USA is not criticized by your leaders NOR THE MASSES! Why is that? Chocoholic for reasons that are pretty obvious to everyone else apart from you it seems. muslimbangladeshi What may they be? Since they are so obvious, they may very well be stated at least once.

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mesheditor these kinds of threads really kind of sobbering , specially in the UAE since we could tell what our fellow westerners would react to it. its an avidant that no matter how much you prove that you're religion is promoting piece, they will invalidate it because its in the name of islam , that is of course because few are really understanding, few arent really brainwhashed yet. go uaekid go :) mesheditor
you are a disgrace to this country, god bless dubai wordyexpat LOL at UAE kid! Its so true!! Alot of my friends in England wear hijab and while at Uni, mainly English people would be TOTALLY shocked that they had English accents or that they were confident and outgoing. I guess in that sort of (uni) environment, many people are the first in their family to go to uni and sometimes haven't met people from other backgrounds--so in a way its an education. But unfortunately, some mistakes start at uni and end up being followed throughout life, so its all about clubbing, pubs and meeting someone for the night---hehe and this is seen as liberation. I'm not sure yet how waking up in a place you dont recognise after a night you dont remember is liberating. But I like how with Islam muslim girls never seem to have that question of whether their partner is going to marry them because its quite obvious that its going to be a long term thing. Its quite sad for Westerners (not those who want to be single of course) that when in a relationship, its something that has to take its course with a goal that cant always be seen. Whereas in Muslim relationships, they always have the goal of marriage from day 1-even if it turns out that the relationship doesn't work, at least they know their partner WANTS to be there long term-and there's no commitment fear nonsense. Also on a different note, recently I encountered someone who actually thought Israel was a country before Palestine--and that the Palestinians were fighting for land in a similar vein to the Bosnian-Serbian conflict. What the hell are schools teaching these days? uaekid What worries me the most not the above but the fact that the west don’t wana see the truth.. daisy
Its Islam
the basic difference in Islam and other religions is tht we cannot behave like others do...
we will always show patience and respect towards others and
UAE kid said it right...we all know whts going on even western shares the same opinion...its not tht all of them are from the same school of thought but its a big issue and all the media propaganda and due to sm political issues and personal benefits sm intrest groups from west as well as from arab world is doing it.
We shud be proud of our being human and then Islam ...coz Islam as well as other religions basically teach us to respect others, their way of living and their opinions...tht wht makes us different from animals.
We as a muslims shud not force them to adopt but to prove it through our behaviour and peace of mind and soul...ths wht our religion means....
Islam.....peace for all beings. Humbleman
Daisy, well said, I fully heartedly agree with what you said. Wow, if just 65 % of the people in this world share the same intelligence and opinion as you, our world would be a fantastic place to live in. ahamed * ahamed nods agreeing to daisy :lol: dubai1970
[color=blue]I think its very simple dont you get it? Its called "The Law of the Jungle"- Survival of the strongest.
I wish we as Humans will unite for once and all on a unified peace regardless of race, ethnic group, religion or nationality to Say "No"
to wars and destruction.
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For very simple reason, All Muslims are not terrorists but most of the terrorists are Muslims, so airport profiling is based on this fact. And thanks to this, there is no difference left between a terrorist and a freedom fighter. Please do not find faults at others, but only in yourself.
Islam is a religion of peace and for all humanity..... wait a minute, action speaks louder than words. right?..... Go to rich Muslim countries and see how wealthy Muslims and their Government treat maids from other countries, its pathetic. I can go on and comment on so many things around us, am not comparing with west, but when one says nice things about Islam, it should follow with actions as well.
I do agree with Daisy but I just wanted to present from another angle.
Cheers Humbleman For very simple reason, All Muslims are not terrorists but most of the terrorists are Muslims, so airport profiling is based on this fact. And thanks to this, there is no difference left between a terrorist and a freedom fighter. Please do not find faults at others, but only in yourself. This contradict with this “I wish we as Humans will unite for once and all on a unified peace regardless of race, ethnic group, religion or nationality to Say "No" to wars and destruction.” My friend, if you are intelligent enough you would know that there is something called human right. Where no one cannot be hold responsible for someone else’s action. So clearly to stop someone and search him/her because of his/her or religion or look is pure racism and discriminatory. How could you think for a second it’s justifiable to prosecute over one billion people because of some action done by a very small group of people? So in your opinion it’s okay to hold German people responsible for Hitler’s action – or to hold all the Irish people as responsible for what some Irish politicians had done in the past. I haven’t seen that happened to those people, but for some reason it’s applicable to Muslims – how racist. More than ever, the real colours and agendas of some countries who have been priding themselves as developed, civilized and have been lecturing others on how important they uphold human right regardless, have started to appear on the surface. Because their laws have been put to the test, in other words, because they are now feel insecure, thus, human rights and all of that out of the window in no time. “Islam is a religion of peace and for all humanity..... wait a minute, action speaks louder than words. right?..... Go to rich Muslim countries and see how wealthy Muslims and their Government treat maids from other countries, its pathetic. I can go on and comment on so many things around us, am not comparing with west, but when one says nice things about Islam, it should follow with actions as well.” Again, your narrow-minded stop you to recognize, these are cases and Humans are as one in Islam regardless of wealth, colour, race etc. Also, your ignorant and lack of intelligence have impaired your ability to understand that Muslims are humans too, and therefore they are susceptible to behave just like their fellow humans. How many head of churches and priests have publicly convicted of sexual conduct against children? You count if you are good at the math. Am not picking, am just making the point that humans are humans regardless and they will behave according to their DNA, and humans share a same DNA. Get that or it’s difficult for your brain. 99 % of Muslims love justice and peace, but hate it when injustice being done to them, and yes they do react to it, and rightly so. In my opinion they should react to it peacefully. You see, I find it stupid when people somehow surprised when some Muslims vent their anger against injustice, I mean hello, look at what has Israel been doing to the Palestinians people, which beg the question that, have those countries who pretend they love justice and human right said or done something to stop the massacre of the Palestinians, and help them to get their lands back? Well, leave the answer to you. Palestinian and Israel’s conflict is the major creation of hate and terrorism, and those powerful countries know that, but the sad truth is that, these countries are happy to see it going because it’s benefit their interests. Peace/Love
dubai1970
Perhaps I was not clear enough about my intentions which was not comparing the two sides.
There are good and bad people on both sides. What I wanted to point out to all Muslims is stop this whining and look within themselves where is the problem rather than looking for reasons outside.
I want you to read your following statements again from a different angle:
How could you think for a second it’s justifiable to prosecute over one billion people because of some action done by a very small group of people?

Palestinian and Israel’s conflict is the major creation of hate and terrorism, and those powerful countries know that, but the sad truth is that, these countries are happy to see it going because it’s benefit their interests.

Don't you feel helpless that small number of Muslims can take hostage 1 billion, and there is nothing we can do about it? Why don't you stop complaining about who and what others are doing to you on this war on terrorism and why not save this dying Ummah with actions rather than words? Feeling helpless right?
Cheers rudeboy honestly speaking instead of blaming christians or hindus or the jews we should blame us for what is happening to muslims across the world. we brought this upon us. its very easy to blame but very hard to take the blame. we as muslims need to ask ourselves y are we not united? we also need to ask each other are we really good muslims?or just muslims by name? a muslim who goes clubbing and attends the friday prayer. If we are good our leaders will be good. the west has already found splits within islam i.e shia vs sunni. and these splits are in islam because of us. there are millions of muslims leaving in the west. i didnt force them nor did u but y do they live there? is it really their home? Dubai Knight OK, it may come as a surprise to some people here, but I am going to agree with some of the points made here!
As I have personally said before: Islam is a good religion and yes, 99% of Muslims wish to live in peace and harmony. You don't think 99% of all other religions want to do the same? Of course they do. However we are all tainted by the radical few. So are the Jews. So are the Christians.
It is humanity as a whole who is being manipulated by these 'extremists' who would try to force their view of belief and a way of life on everyone else at the barrel of a gun or under the threat of indiscriminate bombings.
Before 911, everyone was welcome everywhere in the world. A Muslim or a Jew's desire to grow a beard to show his faith has just made them stand out more. Ordinary (for that read 'uneducated')people then become suspicious and any mark of faith such as this identifies the individual and makes them a potential target. The Hijab clearly identifies a Muslim woman and therefore puts her in the situation of being targeted by the stupid minority. Which is better and easier, anonymity for the individual or attempting to weed out every person who has a hidden bigotry?
My brother (western, blue eyed, Christian British businessman) has a beard, has done for years, and is constantly stopped and searched and interrogated in the US and Canada, whereas he never was before. This is the aim of the extremist...to instill doubt and fear from within. "To divide and conquer."
The debates that rage on this site are exactly what they are trying to create. They are winning and it is only by people listening and learning and understanding that this 'war' will be won. Not with rockets and bombs and bullets. Its not bullets that kill people, its people that kill people.
Live long and prosper!
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Knight Humbleman Dubai1970, my friend I hear your point and respect your view. You see, lots of people don’t understand that Islam is a religion of people whom come from different cultural backgrounds, race, colour, classes etc. These people’s cultures have influenced the way they see Islam, not mention, some of those people went a bit further to develop their own sects, for example Sunni Shia etc. Within your household how often does everyone agree to do the same thing or have the same opinion, let alone people from different races and cultural backgrounds. Some people would be surprise to hear that, large number of Muslims throughout the world have developed animosity toward the US only because of the fact that it has been giving its unconditional support to Israel at the expense of Palestinians lives and livelihood. Muslims and Christian Arabs have waited patiently for solution to the conflict for 60 years. But all what they have been seen is, Israel has been expanding its grip on more lands from Palestinians, Syrian, Lebanon. So they fed up with the unfair support to Israel, this eventually has resulted into hostile responses directed mainly at the US. It’s sad and shouldn’t happen but that’s the reality. So the Middle East and the world would be safer if Israel and Palestine’s conflict has been resolved once and for all. Younger generations worldwide are more open-minded and tolerant toward one another than their older generations. This is a positive sign for a better world to come. However as long as that conflict is going on, it will remain a lunching pad for hate and terrorism, and mark my word. To conclude, Muslims are scatter throughout the world, so it’s unjust to paint or hold someone responsible for someone else’s action. How would you like it if I kept your house under surveillance just because you brother or friend sells drug even though you have nothing to do with him. :) Humbleman Dubai Knight, that’s very good point. Guns cannot solve problems, instead they will aggravate them, especially 21st century. We will always have those radicals in our societies no matter what, they have existed in every race and religion and will exist till the end of humans race. So the question is how do you deal with them? Well, we deal with them by using smart politics. For example the world leaders have to fairly address and put an end to such conflict for example the one between Israel and Palestine. This will definitely weaken those radicals’ ideology, because there would be no evidence to support their claims. It’s that simple, but do the world leaders have the balls to do that, I doubt it. mesheditor True and will leave this for your comments: The father of Qatari student Mohamed al-Majed, who died following a racially motivated attack in the UK on Sunday night, has called for justice. It is believed Mohamed, 16, was pursued and punched after a fight broke out between local youths and students outside a kebab shop in Hastings town centre, near Brighton on England's south coast. A murder probe is under way after a foreign student aged 16 died in hospital following a 'racial' attack. The boy, who was visiting Britain from Qatar in the Middle East, was attacked by a mob outside a kebab shop in Hastings, East Sussex. He suffered serious head injuries in the late-night attack on Friday and died last night at King's College Hospital in London. The youngster was rushed to hospital and later transferred to the King's College Hospital, London, where he died late on Sunday night. A youth aged 17 and two men aged 18 and 20 have been arrested and released on bail pending further inquiries. Detective Chief Inspector Graham Pratt, who is leading the investigation, said: 'I am appealing for anyone who witnessed the assault to contact police. 'It was a busy time of the evening and there were many young people in the area. I am sure many of them would have seen what happened' A Sussex Police spokesman said today: 'Police are currently treating his death as a murder inquiry, and are investigating it as racially motivated at this time.' Chief Insp Natalie Carron, from East Sussex Division, added: 'The young man had spent about five weeks in Hastings and was due to return home next weekend. His death is incredibly sad. 'We will have a uniformed presence in the area to reassure people and will continue to work with the language schools to address any issues. Hastings attracts up to 50,000 foreign students to its English summer schools each year. 'The problems and issues they are involved in are very few in comparison to these large numbers,' said Ms Carron. 'Notwithstanding this, no matter how rare an incident like this is, the effect on the young man's family and tragic consequences can only be imagined.' The dead boy's identity has yet to be confirmed by police. rudeboy i think what happened with the qatari boy was a racial conflict and you still see it in england happening everywhere. you will come across cases where a white guy was killed by the blacks or pakis. it is a racial attack and got nothing to do with religion. mesheditor bla bla bla rudeboy
the bla bla usually comes out of the ass ;) mesheditor Haha true wordyexpat rude boy, did you just say pakis? Who are you? George Bush or Prince Harry? muslimbangladeshi
That is some pansy homosexual loving 'liberal' western do-gooder's talk with no validity in real life.
When your family is being killed in Iraq, Afghanstan, Palestine, Somalia, Sudan and so on by the savage barbarians, are you going to respect them and their opinions?
Islam asks us to defend ourselves against oppression and injustice and never transgress to oppress nonmuslims. The nonmuslims must also realize these aspects and respect Islamic just and fair system.

You are partially right. We should not force them to become Muslims. But we should not also accept their immoral lewd behaviour, their injustice, hypocrisy, violence, murder in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan and other parts of the world. muslimbangladeshi
Thanks for confirming that a country that has perhaps the worst history of deception corruption treachery immoral and lewd acts, also continues its tradition both home and away from home.
We knew the nonmuslims in Britain who don't even allow the Adhan (while also claiming TOTAL freedom of religion) are nasty creatures that frequent the pubs for alcoholic drinks, have no shred of morality left, are the cause of millions of deaths and more trouble in the world, and also that no such groups exist in Dubai, Qatar, or such countries that killed foreigners for their race. Chocoholic :roll: bored now rudeboy
i can say woteva i like paki :D kanelli
I can't believe that I am feeding the troll, but this thread irritates me. Do you really feel so sorry for yourselves as Muslims? These points made by uaekid, from some cut and paste email likely, are so full of crap.
1. Who says that a beard makes someone a terrorist? I don't think the average person walking on the street thinks so. There are plenty of Muslim guys walking around with beards in Canada, and they aren't being attacked, beaten, arrested, put in internment camps because they are a perceived threat. If you want to blame the religious profiling taking place at airports etc., blame the terrorists that have attacked and murdered people. Arab or Muslim/looking people with beards and other signs of their faith are going to be singled out for questioning in certain places. That is a fact of life now, courtesy of Al Qaeda and other Islamic radical groups. I'm sure it is terrible to be suspiciously treated and held up when travelling. I can sympathize.
2. Nuns are only a small percentage of the religious population, whereas many Muslim women are covering. Covering is not part of day to day dress for Christians in Christian countries. I don't think many people care about covering hair, but for a woman to cover her whole face so that no one can see who she is, and communicate properly with her, is just a completely foreign concept to people who don't trust when they can't see someone's face. Are others not allowed their cultural norms too?
3. Some working women who don't have families think that all women who choose to stay home with kids need liberating, regardless of their religion. No one else cares if a woman stays home or not and what her religion is. Get real!
4. In those universities where they ban hijab, they also ban the wearing of other religious symbols, so tell the whole story. The purpose is to put everyone on an equal footing and try to protect groups from being singled out according to their faith. I don't agree this needs to be done, but so far only France is doing this is, not any other country. Even then, one or two countries hardly makes the whole rest of the world guilty.
5. Dedicating yourself to Islam for what? A career? Who thinks it is bad for someone to study to be a Imam, Priest, Minister or whatever religious leader who will lead a place of worship? No one, because it is a perfectly respectable career. I know lots of people who have devoted a lot of their personal time to religious study (in many faiths) and no one thinks they are hopeless, except maybe the atheists, but they are a minority. So again, what on earth are you talking about?
6. When a Christian or Jew commits a crime it isn't mentioned? What do you mean? What country/countries are you talking about? In my country (Canada) the newspaper reports that you as an individual has been arrested, not your race, religion etc. Anyone who commits a crime goes to court and jail if sentenced. Again, it isn't only Muslims filling courts and jails! (In the US, do you want to talk about how many blacks and hispanics are in jail? I think they'd be pretty pissed at Muslims whinging about their treatment in the justice system.)
7. Your last point is pretty much the only valid one on the list. It sickens me when some people believe that any acts of self-defense by Palestinians are acts of terror. However, while some of their actions have been to protect their families, other actions, like sending mortars and rockets into civilians areas in Israel, do qualify as acts of terror. (But it isn't all Palestinians doing it.)
Please people, stop circulating such stereotypical, self-pitying bullcrap. Be proud that you are Muslim because it is just as great a religion as any other, and most Muslims are peace-loving and kind people, as are those of other religions. All groups of people have some biases about religions and cultures that are foreign to their own, including Muslims. If some of you want to keep encouraging an "us" vs "them" mentality go ahead, but it does nothing to help people understand each other and create more tolerance. naruto
lo...u dont have anything to say ...just admit that what UAEkid said is true..if not ..please enlight us :D mesheditor Kanelli , but you are talking from Canada where it sounds pretty peaceful and Canada is kind of isolated and far from everywhere . uaekid mentioned a lot of facts there , and to be honest when I get strip searched at some airports I get confused as to whom should I blame for it and I wish that I have guts to say something to the customs guy, however they are noble men who are trying to save people's lives from terrorists. I even accidentally sometimes don't get searched and I get paranoid about it and I start walking in a strange way so that anyone would be suspicious. I know this sounds pathetic but once you are being put into that category you would feel the same, or just like uaekid. daisy
I am sorry tht i dont agree the way u mentioned blacks and pakis....
Can u quote any single incident where any Pakistani..( not paki)
did this on the base of just racism???
Its human nature and if u have any minor idea of human nature then you shud be clear tht every human retaliate and reacts to an action and due to this reactions sm times we see the worst tht is the the loss of a life....
So if you reconsider ur judgemental tone and try to stick to the human nature then its more justified. daisy
Truth is hard to digest... :lol: Humbleman Why do we have to use indecent names like Troll etc toward others who only voicing their opinions? Tough luck if you don’t like someone’s point of view. This forum is a good way to increases your understanding of how others think. dubai1970
Chocoholic has always contributed wisely to the forum. I really like her to say a few words....;-)
Cheers kullervo
Just as a counterpoint, I'm a white guy from the States (of northern European descent, no less). On my only trip (so far) to Dubai, I was held back in Houston with nearly every swarthy person on the flight, patted down and sniffed by dogs. The guards were polite, and I had some laughs about the experience with my fellow passengers; it wasn't a terrible ordeal or anything. Not sure why I was in the group, and I've no way of knowing if I was a rare exception, but in my own personal experience, it's not just folks of ME heritage who get special attention. Humbleman
Brother you should do what I usually do when I stopped for no reason. I poke fun of their paranoia, at one stage I said “Allah is great” out loud, and you couldn’t believe it, the custom officers freaked out, and me just couldn’t stop laughing, even now when I remember it. :lol:
Brother you should walk with your head high, because your culture, your country and your religion have proved they are civilised and humane than those paranoid countries whom let their fears and feeling of insecurity override human right and individual’s right.
A European friend and I were in a trip, and it was funny that I got stopped and he didn’t. He couldn’t believe it, but then again it was a good way to show how democratic, liberal and civilised the West really are. daisy
u want to spice up the forum??
Hmmmmmm 8) daisy
Excuse me! but is this forum about voicing only wht others want to read?? or ....one can share and contribute some facts too.
As u seem and i hope so is an experinced forum member....you shud not behave in such manner coz when it comes to where we as muslims are wrong...we admit so its not about u as a person ...its an over all view tht whts happeneing around the world so....
Plz stop callin those facts >>>a crap. Chocoholic
Well I'm glad you find that amusing. Maybe you won't next time, when you come across a heavy handed guy who'll throw you in a cell overnight. Yes people are paranoid, but that's no excuse to play on it.
And what is all the crap about racial slurs. Paki is short for Pakistani, Brit for British, Scot for Scottish, Paddy for Irish, Saffa for South African, Kiwi - New Zealander, Pom for English - do you ever see any of us getting offended or jumping up and down moaning and compaining? No you don't - because it's tongue in cheek. When did everyone get so sensitive you can't poke general fun. Lighten up!
Geez next time someone calls me a Brit or a Pom, I'm going to get real offended! Humbleman
To be honest I don’t give it damn, am strong enough to speak up. I love it when I discover the hypocrisy behind human right and freedom in some Western countries.
Besides, “Allah is great” is an ordinary phrase to say if you were a Muslim. Just like as if you say “I love Jesus”. So if they don’t like to hear it, then stuff them, it’s my right to say that and no one ever can stop me from saying what I believe in.
:) kanelli Sorry, I call it like it is. An forum troll is a forum troll. I'm not talking about ugly guys who live in the woods. If you don't know what an Internet troll is, then look it up. Seems most of you like your little pity party here. No one has anything else to say about my rebuttal to the "facts" copy and pasted by uaekid? Everyone still thinks all the "facts" are true? So sad. By the way, I'm white female non-Muslim Canadian and have been stopped at the airport in Toronto and London, x-rayed (for drugs likely) and questioned. When I left Canada this summer the security at the metal detectors were terrible to me and my 15 months old son. Over the course of about 10 minutes they kept making us go back and forth, take lots of items off, they had me hold my 15 month old up in the air while they scanned him and frisked him down front and back, peeked in his diaper. They took my sling away to go through the the xray, had to put my son down. He ran back through the detector arches and then they grabbed me and made us go through the ordeal again just because we went to the other side of the arches! We didn't leave the security area or make any contact with anyone. People in line were shocked at how we were being treated. I kept telling the guard the only option was the metal decoration on my jeans, and I offered to take my jeans off, but he decided to frisk the baby! Anyone can be mistreated by idiots at airports these days. kanelli
mesheditor, I have lived in 4 countries (so far) and travelled a lot.
How many times have you been strip searched? Which airports? Do you really believe that if you don't get strip searched it was an accident on the part of the security at the airport? Come on man!
I actually offered to take my pants off at Toronto airport, almost did it in front of the whole queue of people, but they didn't seem interested (they like frisking babies instead). Guess they didn't want to see my cellulite. :) Dubai Knight
Or those little green knobbly knees!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Knight rudeboy
daisy if you know the history of England you will be shocked with what you learn.
i am not sure if you know about england or even about the Bradford Riots.
Pakis, indians west indies were targets of racial attacks by the white "extremists".
This led to racial tension among the brownies and the whites.
What pisses me off is that many pakis and indians have died because of racial attacks in england, and yet a qatari boy is getting the headlines. Y is that? are pakis not muslim?
there are even gang attacks and even drug related attacks.
all i m saying is pakis do it and even whites do it. trust me i have been through all that and its all based on racism or revenge ;) muslimbangladeshi
Thanks for admitting that WESTERN airports are 'religionist' (biased against Muslims due to religion) against Muslims .
Isn't it also fair that Western nonmuslims in Dubai, Doha and other Muslim countries/cities are arrested for drugs taking, pornography, lewd, immoral, promiscuous behaviour and executed for Western nonmuslims firebombing mosques in UK and millions of muslims killed in their OWN HOMES in afghanistan, iraq etc due to UK, USA and the West? kanelli
You are so full of crap, I'm laughing my ass off here. Please post the links to the threads where these quotes come from so we can see the full context. If you don't post the links to the threads, you are losing all credibility.
And by the way, how does this post have anything to do with what I discussed in this topic? Are you not interested in debating each of my points in rebuttal to your initial post?
Failure to post the links and failure to discuss the topic you brought up means you are most certainly a troll who is here only to wind people up. I will go back to ignoring you if that is the case.
p.s. I'm married and Chocs wouldn't go near you with a barge pole, so stop trying to wind us up constantly for our attention. :lol: muslimbangladeshi
Does this happen to you in the West?
Weren't you saying their immoral lifestyles are superior to Muslims, after all they may even go to heaven for drinking, taking drugs, immoral promiscuous lewd behaviour, showing their genitals in public, having their mothers have intercourse with strangers regularly and so on?
In short that we should accept their behaviour in Muslim countries? Why don't you have 'guts' to say anything to these filthy idiots?
Just boycott them, strengthen ties with fellow Muslim countries. I still don't understand why you don't do any of it, and why your government even let go some british couple who had open intercourse in Dubai in public view.
Are you Emiratis so afraid of Westerners? do you think you are inferior to Westerners? Do you think they are your masters and superiors who you have to beg to and plead for mercy?
Is this the result of leaving Islam? Surely Islam doesn't teach you this and your behaviour must be a result of leaving Islam in favour of allowing all sorts of lewd lascivious promiscuous and alcoholic drunken stupor from Western immoral morons. muslimbangladeshi
Exactly!
Who cares about some limey tosser?
This thread is on religious discrimination perpetrated by Westerners which I have been saying all along is the case, not on ethnic origin or whatever.
Bumbling british bums got burnt badly it seems, eh? Pesky paranoid pommies should stay within their own country I say. muslimbangladeshi
Typical Western lewd immoral lascivious promiscuous exhibitionist behaviour due to immersion and growing up in a western environment.
BTW did any Emirati 'gang' violate you, violently attacked you or such, ever? Do you think the counterpart, Western hooligans causing violence due to religion, and other reasons is existent? Are they widespread? kanelli Chocs, Paki is a racial slur in my part of the world. The correct term is Pakistani. muslimbangladeshi
I personally don't care much. If we follow true Islamic law, ethnicity is not a concern (pakistani is not one ethnic group though).
Here we are discussing the western hypocrisy and double-faced behaviour regarding Muslims starting from treatment in airports to employment or other aspects of life in immoral, decadent, lascivious, pornographic, promiscuous lewd and wanton western countries. uaekid muslimbangladeshi, it is useless to discuss anything with her, beside she is a racist . check out her posts in philosophy and religion forum, you will know who she is and what she stand for. She also tend to keep going around in circle, too much talking with no point. . uaekid kanelli, you are aging too fast to remember your own posts dear. Chocoholic er excuse me! Who are you calling a Limey? And yeah a friend of mine was very nearly attacked by a group of locals, through no fault of her own! Had another not come to her rescue. Paki, is an abbreviation for Pakistani - end of. And actually I was stopped at Birmingham airport and given a grilling by customs and security because I was a girl travelling alone from the UAE. uaekid
you seem to have a story to tell in every dam topic , how old are you ?1000 ? Chocoholic Yeah actually! I have about 8 past lives - wanna meet some of them? kanelli uaekid, I still don't see links to the threads you supposedly quoted me from. Also, I still see no rebuttal to my initial post. You have time to search my posting history and make negative comments about me, but no time to discuss the topic you started? This shows what you are really after when you post on this forum... uaekid you called me a troll so I might as well act like one ! enough of you and me , this the politics forum. kanelli Yep, this is what I expected from you uaekid. I'm going back to ignoring you now. :) rudeboy
y is it that pakis call each other hey whats up paki? oh its ok then is it?
abit like niggas saying to each other yo nigga wagwan up here nigga?
its not a racial slur. mesheditor as far as I am concerned I call them pakistanies , paki is rather disrespecting in the way in sound. I also heard palastinians calling themselves Palies ... anyway , were where we ? oh palastine, I pity the palastinians, with all there deaths and wasted blood people merely want say few things about them then they move on and change the topic dramatically even though this thread is meant to be for them so we at least feel their suffering and sympathize, grieve and support them with what some of what we have. Dubai Knight OK enough of the racial abuse through abbreviations or nicknames. Paki is an abusive and detrimental term for anyone, so lets call them Pakistanis please. Any more and I will edit the posts. :evil: :evil: :evil: Knight



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