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Umass Thank you all ,The information that you gave are very helpful. We are both still in early 30ss and we do not have children yet ,that is why we thought it will be a good opportunitiy to go to dubai and make some money (we can control spending money as we already saved a good amount of it and bought a nice house ) We do not drink that much and we do not like night life so I guess we do not have problems regardign that issue . we like more shopping and traveling around . We are familiar to the culture as I am originally from Asia so I guess my husband will not be that much surprised over there We only concern about working environment and being able to save money : 1--He does not want to leave his construction job in usa and then did not like the job enviroment in Dubai (regarding dealing with employer and the employee) . If people around him will be nice and they will respect him then we have no problems at all . I know that it is hard to deal with labors (But it is hard to deal with them in USA too . 2--Regarding saving money: I just checked some employment web sites and it looks like they offer around (30.000-35000 D a month) !!!!!! do you think that number is the normal salary range for the construction manager ??
Umass
90.000 is just a number i typed ..but any way We live in a very expensive state , salary range is higher than other states and you can not save a penny there .

I already e.mailed the CV , Thank you you are a very nice person Umass Hi all, My husband is an american citizen working for now in USA . He is a construction project manager with a Good education level (MS) in civil engineering and 9 years experience . He got a job offer in dubai from a good company(we only knew that it is a good company by searching online) but we are confused as we have no experience about working envirnoment in dubai !!!! I HAVE FEW QUESTIONS IF ANYONE CAN HELP PLEASE : 1-if he will work in dubai does he still has to pay Taxes to the usa goverment every year !! 2-what is the salary range for a project engineering construction manager? (we thought it should be at least over 100 k a year) 3-what benefits should we ask for ? 4-do you think it worth to move out there ? can we save some money? THANK YOU Pumpkin Escobar
He should get a contracting job from a US company, then you dont have to pay taxes and you get overseas differental, and all sorts of better options than working for a UAE company. Umass Thank you for your replay .. do you mean he should be sent to work in dubai through an american company so that he can avoid paying taxes!! Pumpkin Escobar I dont pay taxes, but i have special circumstances. I dont believe you would pay Federal taxes if you are here for 330 days or more.You husband being American, he would prolly have a big advantage over someone who is Indian or Asian, it's a race thing over here. I dont know about the pay though. Dont let them take your passport!!!!!! Umass It is nice to know that you are american too ... We really wish to improve our financial situation by accepting that offer as it is impossible to save money in Usa . I will try to ask about tax issue in law forums hope they will help As an american citizen working there ..do you think that financially it worth to move to work in dubai ? Liban In Canada we are taxed to a point where even after you croak the government keeps taxing you... Is it worth it moving to a tax haven? YES!!!!!! Hell even if I take a pay drop, its still better than my after tax pay and Dubai is not that expensive compared to Canada (on par in general).... I can't wait to get my a$$ ova there!!! Umass Thanx guys for replaying . I am still just wondering if The american citizen by usa Tax law has to pay anual Taxes even if he will work overseas !!! Huh ..Just I can not imagine that the Tax ghost will follow us to Dubai too :shock: Liban Thank God for Canadians, we just declaire that we are no longer residents of Canada and kaboom, the tax burden for us fizzels away into the oblivion from which it should have never left...

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Umass I just got an answer guys through a law forum . American citizen has to pay tax overseas .but he can exclude up tp 80.000 of his salary without Taxes :roll: Liban Why even declare... You just work for a company that is not headquatered in the USA, and then file your taxes by saying you are unemployed... They have no way of knowing :D Umass Why you did not say so from the beginning . :lol: My husband is not an adventurer at all ..I am keep pushing him to go to dubai and he always make up excuses about it may not be the right step for us . so now we cleared the Tax part ..let us waitand see what new excuse he will come up with :twisted: Liban I guarantee you it will be the weather his next excuse... When it hits 40-50 (50-60 with humidity combined) degrees celcius with the humidity in summer and only drops down to 30-35 (45 with the humidity) celcius at night, its not what one would call pleasant.... Umass They have nice ,good Air conditioners ..do they!! so That excuse is solved too. men men men :lol: Liban Another excuse... Lack of strip clubs.... :lol: :lol: Pumpkin Escobar That sucks, I file taxes, but i dont pay them. Umass What a great news : lacking of strip bars!! :lol: poor husband :twisted: pumpkin : You do not need to file a tax just tell them that you are not working (Now i am an expert ) 8) . Chocoholic Just bear in mind though that working in construction, even though he is a manager, will mean working outside much of the time, in the blazing heat, no AC's for hours on end - mmmm nice.
Liban Choco, the point of this is to convince the man to come to Dubai and not turn him off 8) Chocoholic I know, but if you're seriously looking at moving half way round the globe, you have to look at all the aspects, the cons included. This is not easy work, and long hours outside will inevitably be part of it, you have to look at what you're getting into from every angle otherwise you're doing yourself a diservice. Dubai is a great place to live and work, but a move like that should not be taken lightly. Research everything - that's my advice, that's all. stainless
Up to $70k is take free if you live outside of the US for more then 6 months of the year. So the smart thing to do is get a package that the company pays direct for "benefits" such as company car (specify which one you want but have it remain the "company" car", company housing again agree on a price range around AED150,000 as housing is REALLY expensive here, company family insurance complete with single room coverage (this guarantees that if a family member stays in the hospital that they have their own room... trust me you would want that!), schooling needs to be taken take of by the company but I don't have a clue to the cost... I single, have any daughters over 24? :-) Moving forward now, you see as long as it is a company provided benefit it can not be considered taxable, however if the company provides you a package deal and pays you the items mentioned about in a check (whether monthly, yearly, etc.) it would be considered taxable as you received money for those benefits, but if it is the company providing the US can not tax the company for providing it to you nor can they tax you as it was given to you and has no direct cost associated to it. BUT please do advise and INTERNATIONAL tax lawyer for further ways of benefitting while living outside the states, such as buying CUBAN cigars is NOT illegal as long as you don't buy them with US Dollars... if you as a residence of the states living/working and earning you living in a foreign currency then you can purchase as many as you like and take them back to the US with you as gift BUT not to sale or trade.... that is when it becomes illegal!

I don't have a clue but I will ask around to see if I can find out... there are probable some sites that are employment sites that might be a guide.
Now one note, if you husband thought he works with idiots before, he will now be working in a near third world environment. Not because Dubai is a third world environment, it is not, it is very westernized. It is just that the construction industry employs third labor from the labor itself to mid-managment, so it will require some patience on his half so if you do move here you will really need to do your part and try and not to add to it.

As noted above;
Car, House, Insurance, School, 30 day paid vacation is standard but ask for it in business class, transportation of items from US to Here is standard but let me give you another tip... ask for the reverse and get Dubai to US upon being released, quite, end of contract because you will want to purchase your furniture, carpets, etc here and move it all back to the states as you can get quality home items for a great price.
Oh and make sure that in the contract that if for any reason your husband and company part ways for any reason that the company benefit will continue for 3 months to allow for relocation, change, etc. This will allow you time to prepare for the change upon this departure.

Well that it going to be up to you too and how well you can control your spending... ie. Do you budget your finances now? Dubai is like any metro city... you can make great money but there is A LOT of ways to spend your money. Many people come here to save money but only leave with very little because they went out or tried to keep up the "Jones" but never to realize that many people here in a situation that money is near limitless. You can easy go out and spend $200 a night on dinner and drinks at the same time you can spend $15 for dinner for two. You can goto the furniture shops that ask X3 times more for a product because of a name but is not really higher quality. So it is all relative to your spending habits and how well you can control it.
Regards,
Stainless stainless
Yeah, no strip bars just hooker with the price of a prozzy about $100 for the night. So don't think that lack of strip bars is going to reduce your stress levels... I personally know of three, what I thought, great marriages end in bitter divorce related to the move to Dubai.
IE. If you are an attractive women then you will have many many hitting on you regardless that you are marriage... hell, some here will simply consider that more of a challenge! How good are you at controlling yourself? Are you happy enough not to wonder off?
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If in the construction industry, he will at some point end up at a hooker bar with the guys. The second the women find out he is an American that is not military, they will be all over him... How well is your husband at controlling himself? Do you make him happy enough to not wonder off?
NOW you can easily avoid these places, it is recommended, but even outside of avoiding these places. Living outside the US in a new environment is a wonderful thing... it opens your eyes to whole new world and new ways of thinking. Doing it as a couple can be even better as you have someone to share those experiences with, just make sure that you always have open lines of communication with each other and never assume that the other partner is ok.
Stainless Liban
The entire Gulf area is not for everybody.... It can take a toll on some people... Weather and work stress.... panaghoy
this is very true! in life, there are more important things than money... Pumpkin Escobar
No need, they know what I am doing :twisted: mAJOR pAIN
not all company takes care of your child's education .... only the lucky 30% has that privillage ....
and if you have a kid in grade / year 2 a friend of mine has one .. nad he's paying 12-13 grand a year in cambridge ...
well if you have a kid in year 8 - O or A levels ... well in my case way back 1993 .. my parents was paying around 13,000 (year 8) (and increases 1000dh every year ) Dh per year including transport and books and uniforms (2 pairs) (i guess) (cant really remember much .... )
College : well i didnt do mine here so i have no clue ... if you want you can check at american university ... at 04 3999 - 000
well dubai is a good place and its actually evolving to be one of the most beautifull place in the world ... ruled by a very economically agressive ruler ... business is booming .. specially in construction .... night spots clubs restaurant ... everthing is here .. the only drwback now is traffic , ITS VERY EXPENSIVE TO LIVE, and the labour laws needed major overhauls ... other than that then s its fine
goodluck ... and have a nice stay mAJOR pAIN
not all company takes care of your child's education .... only the lucky 30% has that privillage ....
and if you have a kid in grade / year 2 a friend of mine has one .. nad he's paying 12-13 grand a year in cambridge ...
well if you have a kid in year 8 - O or A levels ... well in my case way back 1993 .. my parents was paying around 13,000 (year 8) (and increases 1000dh every year ) Dh per year including transport and books and uniforms (2 pairs) (i guess) (cant really remember much .... )
College : well i didnt do mine here so i have no clue ... if you want you can check at american university ... at 04 3999 - 000
well dubai is a good place and its actually evolving to be one of the most beautifull place in the world ... ruled by a very economically agressive ruler ... business is booming .. specially in construction .... night spots clubs restaurant ... everthing is here .. the only drwback now is traffic , ITS VERY EXPENSIVE TO LIVE, and the labour laws needed major overhauls ... other than that then s its fine
goodluck ... and have a nice stay
and oh stainless ..... picking up ladies at spineys... asking a newbie if he/she have a 24yr old daughter ??? wtf??? your a true romantic ... nice !!! stainless
Well glad to see that you can take a jest... Major Pain seems to have an outstanding issue with me, must be a very frustrated individual so please excuse him.
There is opportunity to make money in Dubai, it is the controlling the saving it seems to be the issue. Congrate on the home, this means that you can rent it out and claim tax deduction for maintenance, improvements, etc. as a rental.

Well now you are just going to have to learn to have a drink at lunch... your in British territory now, and nothing bets a good pint before lunch, after work, before dinner, before sleep, another for the road, hey this one is on me, come on you said one more but not which one! :) :) :D
Again, this goes back to controlling your monies as there will be one of the largest malls in this hemisphere opening soon. And it can be really easy spending $500 per shopping spree.

You see the labor laws here are very weak, and employees in this industry are handled like cattle. They live in labor camps with 6-8 in a room and share a couple of toilets and showers. They work six days a week and are shown little to no respect from the company, only from their immediate supervisor. Many come from a culture where you have a cast/hiarcy (spelling?) system all are the have nots versus the haves. Now with dealing with them it will be a communication gap between your husband and employees but with time you get use to it and accommodate for it. Then you also have the issue of politics as many employees around him might find him a threat to moving forward because he is a western expat and might be favored over them... so he needs to be prepared for that, and as long as he does his job I would think that he will get the respect he is looking for.

AED30-35 is an ok salary... but a rental can cost AED150 per year, both of you will need cars; etc. it quickly gets eaten up. AND that puts you back in the tax bracket again, so you have to play the shuffle game.
My recommendation, which most people don't do for some reason is plan a trip out here. Do the ground work, it’s NOT a vacation, and find out cost of living, housing, etc. Meet people in the same field and go to the sites to see what it is like. And the sooner the better as you will experience the heat of Dubai or put it off until Ramadan so you can experience that.
Hope it helps,
Stainless
Waiting for your critique mAjor Pain... mAJOR pAIN
ok construction is the booming thing now and it will stay that way for 20 more years ... our family business is in to construction aswell and its not pretty thats why i dont work there ... i feel sorry for the labourers ... anyway .. working condition for an american .... yes it would be better ... but then again ... it depends on what kind of role does he play in the construction schene ... is he an engineer? a Project Manager?, in Procurement?. estimator ? does he Highrise? or roads? well if he's a site engineer .... welll DAMN !!! i dont think he can stand the heat ... usually the americans and europeans who are employed in the construction industry are usually on the management level ... such as Project Managements, Head of this and that ... Senior Quantity Surveyors etc ...
Ok salary Ranges .... it depends on what company they are employed ..
if hes coming over he should look at getting employed at nakheel cause they do give the highiest salary in the region
if hes on an upper management level in construction then you guys would prob'ly do well here ... dubaiette You can say I am a newbie :D .... I found your postings very interesting.... My dilemma is this: I am an American but also have a French passport (thanks to my husband). I don't have a job yet and I'm wondering if anyone knows if I can not file to the (American) IRS being that I am also French? Come to think of it, I'm probably better off sticking to the EU passport only... but both countries allow for double citizenship.... :roll: Anyways... thanks for your help in advance... Cheers! Umass .

Hey Stainless : if we will move to live in Dubai then it will be very nice opportunity to meet you there but please remeber Drinks are on you :lol: :wink: :D
I think we will be fine regarding social life there . but still our main concern is the salary and finiding good company name . We got 2 offers but still we have no clue about if they are good or not !!
some friends suggested on us to get a contract through an american company in USA and then that company will send us to Dubai (They will pay more like this way) .
I do believe that 30-35 D a month is not enough salary to make us leave Usa and go to work in Dubai .
:roll: mAJOR pAIN
:lol: :lol: It will be my pleasure
All of Dubai is turning into Disneyland...what with underwater hotels and rotating villas...not to mention they've planned it as such by giving theme park names like Dubailand, Sports City etc

Wow,I really wish we will move out to live there !! and if not then may be we can have a vacation there too. Pumpkin Escobar I'm just here until I stack enough money to buy a hotel in Brazil. :) Pumpkin Escobar About the tax stuff, check this out-
8) Umass Thank you for the Taxes link it is very helpful . Well ..we are scared to take our final decision about moving to Live in Dubai . It is not easy to leave our house and it may be risky to make husband leave his job in Usa :roll: stainless
Drinks always seem to be on me. :wink: But hey, nothing like a good body shot. :D It's true that drinking is part of normal life in Dubai... Boy you should see this place during Ramadan! I never heard so many whiney people in my life.

One of the major factors that you have to take into consideration is the lax of tax out here in the region. So if you are coming from California to Dubai, you will all of a sudden realize how much money is deducted from you income due to tax. So if you are in the $90 range now and move out to Dubai, it would be equivalent to $130 but in the states. Again if you play the tax man right and rent out your house by the time you leave Dubai, you will have major capital gain on your house, more on that later, and money tucked away in an offshore account free from Mr. Tax, which allows you to cover your living cost... tax free via a credit card that is instructed for 100% payment per month or a Credit/Dept card directly linked to that account. Now you can't make major purchases with this money without paying the taxes on it, Mr. Tax is notified of all major purchases through his network of friends, Mr. Local, Mr. County, Mr. State, etc. Even the banks now have to declare any movement of cash over $5,000!!! $5k is like a day in Monaco, WTF!
For your retirement home you shift your capital gain from the sale of you (current) old house to it and open a small home based business to right off X amount of space as business expenses, you add a garage or extend the house again as part of the business, the cars get you X amount of milage with was for business... All of this tax stuff can be claimed back and should or if you enjoy living outside the US, then look at retiring overseas and don't pay taxes at all... unless you are making tens of millions it is not worth Mr. Tax to come after you as it is not cost efficient, and considering that there are large Corp getting away with tens and hundreds of million of Mr. Tax money, resources are better spent there.
Now that is not to go without say, keep ALL of your receipts! Hell even pick up others receipts for that matter, just in case. If Mr. Tax did come knocking on the door when you open one big box of unfiled receipts and dump it on his desk pointing out that they are in about 5 different languages, 95% he will settle out for about 3-5% of what you really might owe. Hell, I even keep my flight boarding pass and assigned seat ticket, just to add to the clamor of receipts.
I agree with Major Pain, come to Dubai and test the waters... Moving outside the states was the best thing I have ever done! :D It really opens your eyes to the rest of the world!
There is enough construction here for the next 15 years, but after that... it will be interesting to see. I have been working with Dubailand on a project for two years here but now we are reconsidering. Just like the Hydropolis hotel... we are considering backing out. The intentions originally announced to build Dubailand similar to Disbey World was great but their actions and current direction is wrong... VERY wrong, which is to be an Orlando, Paris, Hong Kong, and New York City all combined. So come and make your money now while you can!!! Maybe, we are wrong but get here while the getting is good. Remember, you can always go back to the states and give your renter notice.
Stainless Umass
Drinks on you and Nargileh on us :lol: as it is very popular during Ramadan

I love that part...No Tax anymore :twisted:

Even if we will not get a job in Dubai then surly we will spend our next vacation there . It seems very charming city to be in .
By the way I have a question please : Is it true that all the companies in Dubai give 3 months salary as an annual bonus :shock: Pumpkin Escobar The States is still the best place in the world, especially Texas :wink: But it is fun to get out and see the world now and then. Me, I plan on living on beach in Brazil soon. Umass
I prefer living in New England area (Usa) .
Are goign to invite us to your island in Brazil !!!!! :wink: stainless
DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS... or their shit kickers! :wink:
As for the three month salary, I am not sure in the construction industry but the industry I was in when I first moved to Dubai, it was one month salary, plus annual pay raises.
If you do come out here for vacation, plan on at least two weeks and make sure that it is not during Ramadan the whole time as it will be harder to meet with some of the management.
Now taking away the salary, bonuses, etc. one other benefit to living in Dubai is its location. Seven hours UK, Seven hours Thailand, Seven hours East/North Africa, etc so when vacation time does come you won't want (and shouldn't) go back to the state but to travel the world and experience life! I have been Great White shark diving, hunting big game, standing on the same beach as James Bond, etc etc... most people think that this life is reserved for millionaires, but I have many friends that do, because they plan and budget. Umass My Husband today gave his new excuse about not going to live in Dubai . In his opinion as faR as he is having an okay salary in USA then it is not worth to move there as salaries in Dubai does not look that attractive regarding construction filled and as it is very difficult to move to a new life and a new work environment Guys he is in 30ss , no children and responsibilities yet ..any magic to make him be an adventurer !! :twisted: Liban Yes, tell him either he goes to Dubai with you or you go it alone and that there are many hot and horney men there that do nothing but work hard all day and need to play at night :lol: j/k Umass :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: Stuart There are lots of reasons for not coming to Dubai. There are lots of reasons for not doing a lot of things, BUT (and I'm in construction); Dubai is currently THE place in the world if you're in the construction industry. Ok, so he might not be able to find the 'perfect' job immediately but 30-35 and a few extras should be enough to give you guys a two year holiday in the sun AND you'll have some change left over afterwards. If you think of it like this then it becomes a different proposition? You'll always have plenty of time to 'go home' later. ... and who knows - you _might_ decide that it was the best thing you ever did? I'd suggest considering it for a fixed period of two years (otherwise you'll have arguments later!) and if you don't both agree to stay then you'll be heading home. Your losses are minimal (if any). Your potential gains could be great. ... or does hubby check the bathwater with a thermometer before climbing in? - Stuart FeiPo
Live with it and respect his decision. He knows what he is doing, he is the one that got the job offer not you. Umass
I agree
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He always calculate his steps, Which is good . But in my opinion it is not good to be careful all the time ..sometimes you need to take a Big step in your life especially if you are still young and have no children yet to worry about . Stuart By the way, I'm also in my 30's and no children :D As for "it is very difficult to move to a new life and a new work environment" I'm not so sure that this is true for Dubai. Things to consider (as said by others); - the temperatures. Summer strolls are not a possibility - the driving. Not the same as 'back home' (but not the worst in the world) Any other factors are pretty much the same as you'd get with another job in another city back home ... I've lived in Egypt, Turkey, Georgia (Tbilisi), Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Romania, Prague etc. - and yes, living in places like these takes 'time to adjust' (principally because you don't speak the local language). Here, the local language is English. The supermarkets sell everything you could want and more. As long as the company helps out with the initial month here there are (IMHO) no real issues (if you don't have kids requiring education). But then that's just my opinion and I'm sure there are plenty of people who would disagree with me? Does anybody think - compared with other places - that Dubai is a difficult place to adjust to??? - Stuart stainless
I agree with you Stuart BUT I can tell you that coming from America, where you are taught all your school years (including some college!) that the Middle East is this big scary place where that really horrible religion that create terrorist live and you risk getting your head cut off and you wife will be forced to marry a Sheik.... It seem like a major risk! :shock: :shock: :shock:
I now consider Dubai home and own a business here, the people are amazingly friendly once you get to know them and the area is safe. Heck, I don't want more expats here as it will ruin it!
You have to take risk in life to live big... do you think anyone at the top if they took risk to get to where they are and ALL of them will say, YES. Take risk and live life...
Stainless Umass
Nice to meet you on line . Hope we will meet you someday in Dubai too:D

My brother traveled all over the world in bussiness trips and he told me that the only place he liked and he wishs to live in is Dubai .
Do you mind if I will P.M you asking about some construction information in Dubai !! Umass
I am living in USA since 5 years ago and I found American ppl very friendly and open to diffrent cultures including Middle east culture . Every educated person there know about Dubai and wish to come over to work there .
Still I agree with you that moving out to a new life style is not an easy thing to do .

I am not sure if Dubai after 20 years will stay the same attractive city as it is now !!

That is my point which I was trying to make my husband accept it well mAJOR pAIN
this is so true ....i wish all ladies would be like you fiepo !!!!! you should let your man handle his job because its his job at the first place ... and he's the one whos gonna be doing it ... and if he doesnt feel like coming here ... then respect it ... you can always come here for a vacation ...
dubai is like burj al arab ......its beautifull from the outside and from a far everybody likes to be in ... and there are somany who pays alot just to get in .... but once your in ... you go .... ok then ??? .... or "maybe" ... "thats it ?????" the best advice would be ... MOVE TO DUBAI IF the Move has Great financial advantage .... dont move because of adventure ... coz there is none... you guy would probbly end up doing what we all are doing .... work our ass off .. then stay at dubai forums ... and waste all our money on shopping and clubbing so that we forget how boring this fcking place is ..... why do you think prostitutes male / female, CLUBS/BARS are making so much money here... there are so much hotels and clubs and prostitutes for a small country and all are making money !!! see 70% of dubai is lonely and 30 % are just horny and drunk... we are here for cash period ... cause if we are rich or we have a better paying job at home we wouldnt be here at the first place ... (well unless your Micheal Jackson where hes unwanted at home so he goes and buy land from bahrain and dubai ....) Umass

I was joking !!! ..Anyway I am not fluent in English so May be my words some times Misunderstood . I should be very carefull about what I write from now on.
I respect my husband so very much and I always do what we both want . we used to discuss everything about our life and our future and we believe that marriage is about sharing everything . I never push him to do anything he does not like .
When I asked about any tips of making him an advanturer I was joking and trying to add some fun to the post that is it .
He was the one who told me about working in Dubai . We were trying to discuss the positive and the negative issues about moving there .

We would like to move to Dubai to improve our financial situation . we had enough adventures when we were in 20ss. Now it is time to think about making a family , but to be able to have a children you need to have an extra budget than paying your bills and your home loan .
Thank you all ..you really helped me alot in having a good idea about living there .I really appracite your help mAJOR pAIN inthat case !!! welcome then !!! send us a pm and well set a piss up and we will all get drunk as hell hahahahaha welcome to the club of bored dubai expats hahahahahaha will be waiting for your arrival guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Umass Looking forward for meeting you there mAJOR pAIN .
Best wishes Pumpkin Escobar Why is this thread so popular? :? BobbieMasoner
that's exactly what i was wondering.. :shock: Umass
Coz the writing style trough all the thread 's posts are so friendly and all the forum's ppl are so kind and always welcome the new members and take care of them well. :wink: SGMD1 I'm a college student in the United States and will soon be going to medical school here, and was wondering what an average physician's salary would be for an American citizen in Dubai. I might be jumping the gun as it will be at least 8-10 years until I complete my medical training/residency and I could easily change my mind, but I increasingly see myself wanting to live somewhere else. Everything I have ever heard about Dubai makes it sound unbelievable and ideal for someone in my position. My parents are Indian and are basically the only family I have in the US, so after they're gone I would want to be closer to my family in India, yet still in a modern, liberal, Western environment since I only speak English and understand a little Hindi. (And what better than a place with islands shaped like palm trees, the world's tallest skyscraper, the world's only 7-star hotel, and no income tax?) The only reservations I have are about the quality of primary and secondary education (when I have kids) and about some of the earlier posts about racism and tensions between Indians and the locals. Should I be concerned even though I was born in America and have lived my whole life here? Considering how rapidly the city has grown, who knows what will happen in the next ten years...but I would really appreciate any input... jag
Hey, i agree with you 100%.. thought i was the only one that thought that way!! :twisted: Umass
I am in medical filled now , trying to finish residency as soon as possible and then planing to jump to work in Dubai coz Physician's salaries are little bit more than Usa salaries BUT you almost pay no txes in Dubai so that is a plus ,
and above all I will be more close to my original culture but still holding the good well organized western system .
I advise you to go step by step ...try now to finish your medical school and then surely you will find a good opportunities all around the world
Good Luck SGMD1
Is this true? I am getting conflicting information. I read this in a different thread on this forum:

So which is it? I've also heard that professional salaries can be 2x or even 3x what they are in the US. Someone please set the record straight for me. Are salaries like $500K/year for a radiologist even remotely possible? buddyb
I am Canadian and have a job offer in Sharhah. They say that company will provide employment visa. Won't I need my education credentials attested?
Also, "car provided by the company including insurance and maintenance. However, any charges due to accident/damage would be my responsibility"
From previous posts on blood money for accidents, I imagine this could get quit expensive. How much extra is this insurance?
Any info you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks from Canada!! sharewadi
Blood money should be covered by insurance (check the policy) unless you're drugged or drunk. doctor_no So which is it? I've also heard that professional salaries can be 2x or even 3x what they are in the US. Someone please set the record straight for me. Are salaries like $500K/year for a radiologist even remotely possible not in your wildest dreams--and what u hear about salaries being 2x or 3x compared to us is just somebodies imagination. maybe for some professions and some special persons who are in demand--they can demand and do get what they want. unfortunately medicos arent in that category.besides the many western expats who seem to be drawn here there are a whole lot of highly trained and specialised indian/arab docs who do as good a job as the uk/us/ausdocs. and since they are not paid a lot in a job situation back home they dont demand too much in dubai.in between are the south africans who get paid less than the western docs as in their place also the salaries are not as high as uk/us etc. of course as of now the high cost of living in dubai dictates that even the south asian/arab docs require a certain minimum to survive in dubai which would close the gap between them and the western docs.however,if the western docs also demand a increase it becomes bad business sense cos the clinic or hospital cant indiscriminately increase patient service charges. and as a last resort they may let the western doc go in favour of a south asian/arab doc who will be less cost to the company and provide comparable service. i wonder why we come here to work? for me it was to be closer to my roots as well as a less scary environment to practice in.BUT DEFINITELY NOT MONEY cos even with no tax and other incentives it is still better money wise in i dont know--i think its about same saving if ure there or in dubai. ditto for mainland western europe,aus canada.nz and south africa i think there is better saving and for indians and arab expats also reasonable saving and above all increase in standard of living and quality of life. vegael2003
If you want to know details then you can follow the following opsion:
1. If your husband wants to pay Taxes in America then you can ask American Government about it.
2. If your husband has got the job in Dubai then you can query the salay range that company where your husbend will join the job.
3. If you don't expand money then total salary of your husband will be benefited.
4. If you don't expand then you can save total money.



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