- gamercowboy wrote:
As much as I wish that I could applaud you guys, I have to reluctantly disagree; reluctant because I despise these jerks and honestly wish them dead (no exaggeration). But such maneuvers don't only endanger the other driver. You, your passengers, and anyone else who may be caught in the crossfire are vulnerable.
This last weekend, I was the victim of one of these Land Cruisers and I had the audacity to flip him off as he passed me once I was finally able to change lanes. That pissed him off and he thought it right to get in front of me and slam on his brakes while trying to force me off the road. I didn't wish to play his game though so I didn't stop. Guys like that live under a different set of rules from me.
Therefore, as much as I would love to see these guys get killed through their own stupidity or my defense against their stupidity, I have to reluctantly yield to a pressing need to keep me and my loved ones safe.
Cure....get your self a Land cruiser or Nissan Patrol and do a good tint job. Invest in a good number plate and literally watch your troubles fly away. gtmash
- desertdudeshj wrote:
- gamercowboy wrote:
As much as I wish that I could applaud you guys, I have to reluctantly disagree; reluctant because I despise these jerks and honestly wish them dead (no exaggeration). But such maneuvers don't only endanger the other driver. You, your passengers, and anyone else who may be caught in the crossfire are vulnerable.
This last weekend, I was the victim of one of these Land Cruisers and I had the audacity to flip him off as he passed me once I was finally able to change lanes. That pissed him off and he thought it right to get in front of me and slam on his brakes while trying to force me off the road. I didn't wish to play his game though so I didn't stop. Guys like that live under a different set of rules from me.
Therefore, as much as I would love to see these guys get killed through their own stupidity or my defense against their stupidity, I have to reluctantly yield to a pressing need to keep me and my loved ones safe.
Cure....get your self a Land cruiser or Nissan Patrol and do a good tint job. Invest in a good number plate and literally watch your troubles fly away. - gamercowboy wrote:
He is basically saying to become one of them.
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desertdudeshj No not really. Never told you to behave like them. Just something with a little more street cred so you don't get pushed around a lot. RobbyG
- Bora Bora wrote:
Getting back on track...................
I avoid the far left lane.
First, people who use it think that when the speed is "100" you must travel over 100.
Second, I figure when the laborer takes the leap, committing suicide for blood money, better the fool in the far left lane than me. Seven labors did this on SZR in a period of 2 weeks. I stick to the middle lane as I figure it would be quite a leap to hit my car!
I know a way to get them landcruisers off track easily.
Just throw a few of these out the window and wanna bet those landcruisers seek refuge on other lanes? Or won't they.... 8)
Say Bora, you can always throw yourself on the tarmac. Maybe they get scared of those eyes you got there honey 8) michaeldubai Capn Aus and others - I used to try the same schemes. This one guy was harassing me on an internal road, flashign and sticking to me - and I had cars in front of me and cars parked on the sides. The only way I could give way was if my car had wings. To my bad luck one of these guys turned out to be a CID. within the next hour I get a call asking me to come over to the police station. you can probably guess the rest - the threats and other nonsense. kept quite for a long time before I made a phone call - and these guys then just disappeared and said it was a misunderstanding and let me go. Nevertheless, it was a bullshit experience. I'd hate to think what whould happen to anyone without contacts. Thats why I hate driving now. BlackburnRovers Thats the main issue; people abusing their powers . If it was a level playing field, more of us could try not giving way to these morons. But when people abuse their powers/authority, it makes sense to be safe than sorry.... Hulahula Anyone think of putting a single-flash strobe light in their rear window? Just something small, but enough to make a tailgater a bit freaked out. I could see a whole load of fun coming out of this, but as soon as you flash a CID guy, there goes all the fun. You'd have to come up with some pretty good excuses. quatroporte
- Captain Australia wrote:
You know the type, you've dared to move into the fast lane to over take someone and some maniac in a Landcruiser sits 30cms from your rear bumper and flashes his lights at you. EVEN THOUGH there is a car to the right of you so you CAN'T actually move out of his way even if you wanted to. What to do? What to do?
Option 1. Clean you windscreen. Use the water and anyone that close to you is going to get a windscreen full of water. Nothing will p!ss them off more. They will probably try to get around you and do the same to you but here is a secret, if you're not right behind someone their washers don't actually get you. ha!
Option 2. Flick your rear-vision mirror down. You know that little tab on the mirror? Flick that down or better yet push the mirror to some stupid angle so it is obvious you can't see them behind you anymore. Works brilliantly. I did it today to some landcruiser maniac with tinted windows and a deathwish and he immediately changed three lanes over to get around me. Problem solved.
Now I must say, when on the open highway I move out of the way for people if it is safe. If it is not safe or we are in heavy traffic then I'm not moving anywhere.
I know it's not just the Landcruisers, but they are the most prominent in my book. Works equally well for all wankers on the road.
I simply kick down and speed a head of him... I enjoy watching those landcrusers unable to catch up...
however, I dont get it.. if one of them flash me and there was no room ANYWAY to speed ahead of him due to traffic, I always give him the way...
What I mean to say, its wrong to force him takeover me as that would cause accidents... I just move to the side and let him pass... no need to piss him off or piss myself too...
to everyone, not giving way to speeding cars on the fast lane when you could move a side and give way is considered as "obstructing traffic" and police can issue you a fine. however, if the guy flashing you is not maintaining distance is also going to receive a fine for not keeping distance.
- desertdudeshj wrote:
Also another fav is if the guy is really really stuck behind me, enough so that I can hardly see him in my side mirror. I just switch on the rear fog lights ( both my range rover and discovery have these ) and the dude thinks I've braked !!!!!! Shocked and he also brakes hard. Only when he is left way behind he realises what might have happened and then trys to catch up with you.
this trick is awesome :lol: Chocoholic
- RobbyG wrote:
This is common in Holland. When there's a deathwish behind me that bumpers me at 30cm...what I do is think about the law and insurance related issues regarding the law and then I suddenly tip my brakes. SQUEKEKKEEKK.... :D:D:D
You watch them faces. First a tap, and when he's scared like hell, hit the slammer. In holland, the one that crashes in the back, is always wrong since he didn't maintain enough space to brake for emergency stops.
Its that simple. Tap and slam...always works. It could get a bit of damage though. He's paying thats for sure....in Holland ;)
This is actually very stupid as most of these morons, when they do get around you normally try to do exactly the same thing. Just let them go and smack into someone else. quatroporte
- Chocoholic wrote:
- RobbyG wrote:
This is common in Holland. When there's a deathwish behind me that bumpers me at 30cm...what I do is think about the law and insurance related issues regarding the law and then I suddenly tip my brakes. SQUEKEKKEEKK.... :D:D:D
You watch them faces. First a tap, and when he's scared like hell, hit the slammer. In holland, the one that crashes in the back, is always wrong since he didn't maintain enough space to brake for emergency stops.
Its that simple. Tap and slam...always works. It could get a bit of damage though. He's paying thats for sure....in Holland ;)
This is actually very stupid as most of these morons, when they do get around you normally try to do exactly the same thing. Just let them go and smack into someone else. - RobbyG wrote:
I agree with Chocos... Pankaj
- michaeldubai wrote:
Capn Aus and others - I used to try the same schemes.
This one guy was harassing me on an internal road, flashign and sticking to me - and I had cars in front of me and cars parked on the sides. The only way I could give way was if my car had wings.
To my bad luck one of these guys turned out to be a CID. within the next hour I get a call asking me to come over to the police station. you can probably guess the rest - the threats and other nonsense. kept quite for a long time before I made a phone call - and these guys then just disappeared and said it was a misunderstanding and let me go.
Nevertheless, it was a bullshit experience. I'd hate to think what whould happen to anyone without contacts. Thats why I hate driving now.
CID guys are usually a bunch of early-20s high-school drop-outs. A few on them recently beat up the manager of Gulf Med College Hospital in Ajman because he tried to make one of them wait his turn. What threats did they make and who did you call?
- quatroporte wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
- RobbyG wrote:
This is common in Holland. When there's a deathwish behind me that bumpers me at 30cm...what I do is think about the law and insurance related issues regarding the law and then I suddenly tip my brakes. SQUEKEKKEEKK.... :D:D:D
You watch them faces. First a tap, and when he's scared like hell, hit the slammer. In holland, the one that crashes in the back, is always wrong since he didn't maintain enough space to brake for emergency stops.
Its that simple. Tap and slam...always works. It could get a bit of damage though. He's paying thats for sure....in Holland ;)
This is actually very stupid as most of these morons, when they do get around you normally try to do exactly the same thing. Just let them go and smack into someone else. - RobbyG wrote:
I agree with Chocos... - Chocoholic wrote:
Absolutely, this is extremely dangerous and should be avoided. desertdudeshj
- gamercowboy wrote:
I would never buy an SUV let alone put dark tints on it. And high dollar license plates? Please. I'm not made of money and there are uncountable other more productive ways that I could spend that kind of cash.
No, I just change my driving style to drive even more defensively than normal. For example, I hardly ever drive in the 2nd lane of Sheikh Zayed Road and I absolutely never drive in the 1st lane. I won't be going to Fujairah any time soon; not unless they widen that road or complete a trans-emirate railway.
Some things are worth fighting for but I have always hated driving and, as much as some people would claim otherwise, driving is not a right- it's a privilege. Plus, I care very little about the UAE; which is great because the UAE cares little for me. There's no point in trying to make these roads safer when the inhabitants seem to like the danger and I would be more than happy to see them all kill themselves.
Too bad they tend to take out some innocents along with them.
Ahh but you see my friend all of this can be had for the price of less than a 3 year old corolla 8) . Me I cannot drive a sedan anymore. It feels so weird. Its like I'm dragging my bottom on the road ! And can't see past the car in front of you. I'm a defensive driver and if I see a car brake five cars ahead of me I let go of the gas and get ready to eventually brake. With a low slung car I am at the mercy of the dude in fornt of me even keep a distance of two seconds. It doesn't feel safe !
PLUS. 90% of the country has no roads so you need a car with can occasiionaly go off the beaten path. gamercowboy I imagine that's your preference since you've been driving 4x4s for a long time and judging by your many posts on off-road driving, you use them for their intended purpose. On the other hand, I prefer small cars. I think even a Honda Accord is a bit larger than I would like to drive. I like small, light, and economical. Besides, many studies show that smaller, lighter cars can be safer than large SUVs. Hulahula All this is easily fixable, with the addition of a $650 Train Horn. Make student drivers s#!t their pants, make businessmen and women launch their coffees across their dashboards, and make your average tailgating a$$hole freak out and try to get away from your glass-shattering air-powered behemoths. desertdudeshj IF you want a small and roomy car. Try the Honda Jazz. Its like Dr Whos Tardis Red Chief
- RobbyG wrote:
This is common in Holland. When there's a deathwish behind me that bumpers me at 30cm...what I do is think about the law and insurance related issues regarding the law and then I suddenly tip my brakes. SQUEKEKKEEKK.... :D:D:D
Oh and before I forget...I drive BMW, so you don't need a cheap car to do the thing I described...
It's a very common freud not only in Holland but everywhere in the World.
Somebody even doesn't repair minor damages and scratches after first case to suck people in the future. It's a good addition to somebody's dole but the only problem that you would be in trouble with crimanal police and insurance companies after the third similar case...
Rob, It's good for you that you did it in Holland. Some LC or X5 drivers could resolve the similar accident without police invovment in Russia. I don't support their solutions though... RobbyG I know, I know....I'm baaaaddd am I not!? ;) Its a rough call, but it works...you see them young puppie eyes in the rear mirror, totally scared and sometimes frustrated but it sets the mind thinking..."I could actually crash here, or worse....die!" Then they swander off and suddenly see all things in perspective. Life is simply relative. There's always a bigger boogyman around... Giant Robby, hence the name....RobbyG. :D :D :D J/K Red Chief Rob, as I said, I would fear for you not for the puppy with round face, short haircut and heavy gold neckchain in Russia... 8) 8) 8) RobbyG
- Red Chief wrote:
Rob, as I said, I would fear for you not for the puppy with round face, short haircut and heavy gold neckchain in Russia...
8) 8) 8)
But hey, I'm always scared for russians. Man I have this crazy thing with communism and KGB FSB whatever... shivering Chicken here 8) Bora Bora
- RobbyG wrote:
- Bora Bora wrote:
Getting back on track...................
I avoid the far left lane.
First, people who use it think that when the speed is "100" you must travel over 100.
Second, I figure when the laborer takes the leap, committing suicide for blood money, better the fool in the far left lane than me. Seven labors did this on SZR in a period of 2 weeks. I stick to the middle lane as I figure it would be quite a leap to hit my car!
I know a way to get them landcruisers off track easily.
Just throw a few of these out the window and wanna bet those landcruisers seek refuge on other lanes? Or won't they.... 8)
Say Bora, you can always throw yourself on the tarmac. Maybe they get scared of those eyes you got there honey 8) - Bora Bora wrote:
Well Robby, I was thinking that you might make a good hood ornament and then I can ram the landcruiser from behind. RobbyG Ahhh sincere love... Ever wondered why we didn't marry earlier? :lol: Bora Bora
- RobbyG wrote:
Ahhh sincere love...
Ever wondered why we didn't marry earlier? :lol:
Because love-hate relationships aren't everlasting?? RobbyG Every marriage has its problems love... ;) Don't go American on me now. I've had my piece of your nails in my back already...(must not forget: wax my back) :sex: Bora Bora
- RobbyG wrote:
Every marriage has its problems love... ;)
Don't go American on me now. I've had my piece of your nails in my back already...(must not forget: wax my back) :love:
If I go American on you, you can forget about wax, I would burn the hair off your back! - with a blow torch. gtmash
- RobbyG wrote:
- Bora Bora wrote:
Getting back on track...................
I avoid the far left lane.
First, people who use it think that when the speed is "100" you must travel over 100.
Second, I figure when the laborer takes the leap, committing suicide for blood money, better the fool in the far left lane than me. Seven labors did this on SZR in a period of 2 weeks. I stick to the middle lane as I figure it would be quite a leap to hit my car!
I know a way to get them landcruisers off track easily.
Just throw a few of these out the window and wanna bet those landcruisers seek refuge on other lanes? Or won't they.... 8)
Say Bora, you can always throw yourself on the tarmac. Maybe they get scared of those eyes you got there honey 8) - Bora Bora wrote:
You are making it too obvious that you don't live here. Throwing cats out of windows on the highway is a national sport here. Just read the papers or ask Chocoholic. Land Cruisers would aim for them. Bora Bora
- gtmash wrote:
- RobbyG wrote:
- Bora Bora wrote:
Getting back on track...................
I avoid the far left lane.
First, people who use it think that when the speed is "100" you must travel over 100.
Second, I figure when the laborer takes the leap, committing suicide for blood money, better the fool in the far left lane than me. Seven labors did this on SZR in a period of 2 weeks. I stick to the middle lane as I figure it would be quite a leap to hit my car!
I know a way to get them landcruisers off track easily.
Just throw a few of these out the window and wanna bet those landcruisers seek refuge on other lanes? Or won't they.... 8)
Say Bora, you can always throw yourself on the tarmac. Maybe they get scared of those eyes you got there honey 8) - Bora Bora wrote:
You are making it too obvious that you don't live here. Throwing cats out of windows on the highway is a national sport here. Just read the papers or ask Chocoholic. Land Cruisers would aim for them. - RobbyG wrote:
Sad, but true. RobbyG I would consider that...insider knowledge, but hey I'm just an outsider, right! 8) yorky500 I would URGE people not to "tap" their brakes when they have somebody tailgating them, not only is it stupid, it is also dangerous. The best thing to do is to just indicate and move over at the first possible moment. Lets not forget that the far left lane is not a lane to dawdle in, it is an OVERTAKING lane (a concept lost in UAE). To go back to my opening statement, I would like to ask people to think of the possible consequences of "tapping" their brakes. More often than not, it is a large 4x4 behind you, these things weigh substantially more than say a normal saloon car, this makes their braking ability/stopping distance a hell of a lot more than a saloon car, and they are somewhat less stable than a normal saloon car. Scenario 1: So, you are in the OVERTAKING lane doing 140, a car comes up behind and tailgates you, so you get annoyed and tap your brakes (which for most people may mean pushing down harder than what they intended to), he/she does not react fast enough and given the weight of his car and speed, will most probably smack into the back of you. As a result, you will be shunted forward and 99.99% of the time, given the speed, not straight ahead but at an angle, you will try to overcorrect and get into a spin or roll your car in other words, you are now in danger of losing your life or being seriously hurt. Scenario 2: Same as above but he is able to hit his brakes in time, but the person behind him cannot (may be a sunny/Yaris etc 1.6/1.3 with drum brakes) and that car goes plowing into the back of the 4x4 which will obviously cause serious damage and injury and you, oblivious to all this, carry on on your merry way in the OVERTAKING lane not realising the carnage you have caused behind. People, I am not applauding the guys who tailgate, but warning you of the consequences of actions you may take. Also, when you are travelling at more than 140 (which like me, I am sure Cap Aussie has experienced on his trip to AUH) and somebody comes up behind you, they are putting a lot of faith in you that you will move over at the earliest and not tap your brakes. Please only use the far left lane for overtaking, not for dawdling in. Oh, for those not in the know: for a majority of the roads in Dubai, if it says 100 you can safely travel at 119 past speed camera's, if it says 120, then you can do 139 and if you are not doing that, then GET OUTA MY ****** WAY! :lol: gamercowboy
- yorky500 wrote:
I would URGE people not to "tap" their brakes when they have somebody tailgating them, not only is it stupid, it is also dangerous.
In more civilized countries, this is the proper course of action to take. This is what is taught in driving schools all over the world. Tailgating is stupid and dangerous.
- yorky500 wrote:
People, I am not applauding the guys who tailgate, but warning you of the consequences of actions you may take. Also, when you are travelling at more than 140 (which like me, I am sure Cap Aussie has experienced on his trip to AUH) and somebody comes up behind you, they are putting a lot of faith in you that you will move over at the earliest and not tap your brakes.
Both the scenarios you describe are valid in their outcomes but not in the appropriation of the blame. It is completely the tailgater's fault for failing to keep proper stopping distance.
- yorky500 wrote:
Oh, for those not in the know: for a majority of the roads in Dubai, if it says 100 you can safely travel at 119 past speed camera's, if it says 120, then you can do 139 and if you are not doing that, then GET OUTA MY ****** WAY! :lol:
It doesn't matter what speed the damn camera actually triggers at; the speed limit is whatever is actually written on the sign. It's common road courtesy (and most probably a law as well) that one should not occupy the passing lane except for overtaking but that doesn't give anyone the go-ahead to tailgate someone who isn't following this rule.
Tailgating is an offense much worse than speeding or occupying the passing lane. I know that you said that you're not applauding the tailgaters but the tone in your post makes you sound like a tailgater apologist, if you will. Hulahula Uhhh I'd listen to Yorky, he's kinda the Evolve forums guru too, and my hero of the roads :drunken: gamercowboy Actually, just did some reading and tapping your brakes is no longer taught as a way to get tailgaters off of you and is now discouraged. So I'm wrong about that. My point still stands though that tailgating is the more serious offense here, not occupying the passing lane. yorky500 I am not lauding tailgaters, but trying to look at the consequences of doing what some have described as the appropriate action to take. Yes, I do speed (but not fined as I do not exceed the "allowable limit") :wink: , yes I do get angry when people don't move over and they are doing 100 (sign says 100, but you know they can do 119). Christ, I have been tailgated at speeds in excess of the stated and allowable limits, but am I going to tap my brakes, an I FOOK, the consequences are horrendous. I mean, I have also been overtaken by blacked-out saloons and 4x4's on the hard shoulder doing more than the stated and allowable limits. Gamer - so, if you did tap your brakes thereby causing an accident, would you thereafter pull up and over and then go and justify your actions to the cops? gamercowboy
- yorky500 wrote:
Gamer - so, if you did tap your brakes thereby causing an accident, would you thereafter pull up and over and then go and justify your actions to the cops?
I may have done so before but not now that I know better :)
I rarely get tailgated now though ever since I started keeping to the outside lanes for the majority of my trips. When I do get tailgated in those lanes, I just try to double my stopping distance to the car in front of me.
But I hate driving. I really do. It often brings out the worst in me :( RobbyG Allright, I'm buying RPG's now. Discussion is over ;) sharfraz is it gameover!!! :lol: Waqsy Some guy did it to me on SZR when i was coming back from co-op Al wasl road. I got my kid brother to get an egg out from the groceries and I let this fool think i'm giving into him by moving into the 2nd lane. I then caught up parallel to him and horned at him to get his window down. Dashed that egg through his window as fast as I could, and then I quickly cut to the slow lane and took my exit.. HAHA RobbyG
- Waqsy wrote:
Some guy did it to me on SZR when i was coming back from co-op Al wasl road. I got my kid brother to get an egg out from the groceries and I let this fool think i'm giving into him by moving into the 2nd lane.
I then caught up parallel to him and horned at him to get his window down. Dashed that egg through his window as fast as I could, and then I quickly cut to the slow lane and took my exit.. HAHA
This is actually a very good one. Great action and so humiliating... :lol:
Great job. Just imagine the mess that egg produces... ahh Justicceeee :twisted: