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Good posting kid. quatroporte thanks for sharing.. herve is death by stoning still legal in the UAE? it may be never applied, but i read that it is still in the law. Is it true that fathering a children without being married can land a couple in prison? uaekid Thanks, lets just hope they'll pass it to new city arrivals this time :wink: Speedhump
And how about France then?
Big Government. Small Brains. Dumb Laws.
Between the hours of 8AM and 8PM, 70% of music on the radio must be by French artists.
It is illegal to kiss on railways in France.
No pig may be addressed as Napoleon by its owner.
It is illegal to take photos of police officers or police vehicles, even if they are just in the background.
It is forbidden without a cemetery plot to die on the territory of the commune.
So what does that prove? Laws still exist on statute books all over the world that won't be enforced any more, they are there just because there's no actual need to repeal them. I'm happy to live in Dubai, a country where public drunkenness and lewd behaviour are acted on by police. What's wrong with some morality?
I completey agree with RedHawk's recent posts. You came here without full disclosure of your past, they found out you had been a spy, that's YOUR BAD, and any treatment that befell you after that can only be viewed in that light. Once you have been a spy, no-one can ever trust you again (even the people you spied for), and anyone that even talks to you must see you as a potential threat especially when you are dealing with business at the very highest level. uaekid
I'm sorry Robby but there is no such thing as discussing differences here !! it's all about pointing at other ppl and forcing what you see is right in your terms. to me personally I see all of you coming from worst cultures no matter how you look at it compared to ours yet you still point fingers at Arabs and Asians in general. beside I don't thing rudeboy is local.
and ppl stop trolling my thread :lol: RobbyG
This kind of posts from people who react like you (Rudebwoy) are causing a ban on everything. You are insulting, biased and non-negotiable at times.
Open your mind son. We won't take your identity away by loosening up a bit. This kind of defense shows your weakness again and again and again...every time again.
Let it go and discuss our differences like a multiculti :idea: rudeboy
your posts just show how you hate UAE and its ppl. would anyone be interested in reading your book knowing that it is biased? herve it is just a question, you cant put forward transparancy and ignore questions because they are embarrassing, and the responses in contradiction to what you claim.

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Speedhump
I hope this has been sent to all countries' embassies and consulates in the UAE. I also think tourists coming to the UAE should be given a copy of this by their tour companies.....
The driving section I think ALL nationalities should have to recite this five times each night before prayers. herve
Morality? bravo that is the best one of this forum.
i saw first hand my Emirati' partners and friends , maried with 4 wives and cheating EVERY single day with prostitutes. and the poor wives have to swallow it. try that in the free world you get divorced. liquor stores with Emirati's customers, is not it that alcohol is forbiden?
as far as laws, Dubai is a facade, behind its glitter it shows anachronistics laws, not dumb laws, medievalistic laws, ruthless, there is a difference in ever getting a ticket for taking pictures of a french cop (never heard of) and being flogged because you slept with your girl frienD.
Hypocrisy, when having children out of marriage can land a couple straight to jail, but Sheikh Mohammed with 17 children i find hard to beleive he had 16 of them with only one wife. so he is above the law and can jail a british couple for a french kiss at the beach while he does what he wants and jail anyone who would report it. For anyone here, should you know that by Emirati law, a "french kiss " is considered s..e.x... and is worth 1 year in prison. Dubai, like Miami, no way, more like Ryad.
by the way is it moral to kidnap little boys and force them to be camel jockeys.
In France, in the US or anywhere else, no one confiscates your passport, even if you are sued.
The UAE is the last country in the world to give any lessons of morality
tell me what this guy was doing in a liquore store, i busted him with my camera. morality....please try something else, you are going to make everybody laugh.
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RobbyG You mean: the truth is enlightening :D (for an open minded person) Nothing better than a good portion of reality. Speedhump
Morality in the West is totally bankrupt, don't try to make it sound like the UAE is the only place where its citizens don't abide by the laws, you make yourself look like a fool with your photo. There are always a visible minority who don't abide by the law and have no shame about it. Everywhere.
In a Muslim country people should know what to expect or just get out. It's pure arrogance to expect them to change their laws because they don't suit you although Muslims are trying it in the West I admit, it's just wrong. By the way, did you hear of anyone being flogged here for pregnancy outside marriage? No, you didn't.
It's NOT within the law for your employer to confiscate your passport here and you must know it so stop with your smokescreens. But possession is nine tenths of the law and if any expat owed me even 200,000 dirhams and I thought they were dodgy I'd have their passport quick as a flash until the paid me, and let them go to the DNR or the police.
On the other hand, for the authorities to take your passport to stop you fleeing the country is of course totally within the law in all countries, if the offence is serious enough.
Sheikh Mo's children? Now you're just throwing stuff around in desperation....get some proof that they haven't either been produced by his wife or adopted. Your insinuations and suggestions picked from the air are a very bad advertisement for your book. Most people like to read facts.
The UAE isn't 'giving lessons in morality' it's applying its laws to the people living here, as all countries do. It's a pity you didn't learn your own lessons before you came here. Do they need to put in their visa applications 'ex spies not permitted entry'? You're a sneaky little person who has lived on and made money from lies and deception. You got what you deserved. End of story (and NOT one worth reading).
It's a pity you weren't caught working in Iraq, then you would actually have had a book to write.
Ban you from the forums? Who's said anything about banning you....this is fun.
p.s. child jockeys were banned years ago, even your research is cr*p!! Speedhump
Robby get a grip. I'm very openminded but also a huge cynic. I believe that this book, just like all the others like it claiming to 'lift the lid' off something or other always end up being very little fact and a huge stuffing of hearsay and conjecture (made up or theorised stuff, or 'it happened to someone else but I heard about it').
The vast majority of expats in the UAE life normal lives, they work, earn money, get away with breaking a few laws (as do some of the locals), this guy really wants to hurt them all and hurt the UAE because of his own stupidity.
He had to escape from Dubai purely because he had made some very powerful people very angry with his deception. Powerful people all over the world ignore the laws and do what they want. This isn't new. herve Agreed , Flogging is not applied by the UAE courts, but it is still in the law, same as death by stoning. the UAE did not abolish it. i understand the UAE set their own standards and laws, it is perfectly normal, the fraud is when the UAE advertise itself as an opened society to attract tourist and investors money, because it is not. the UAE should make it clear, for instance that a non married couple can go to jail for 6 months, that a cheating wife or husband can go to jail for 18 months, while Emirati's cheat on their multiple wives with prostitutes, you know it, you know i know it, i have seen first hand. The UAE should warn that you can go to jail if you miss 2 car payments. The UAE should warn that the police sometimes torture people or threaten them that if they dont sign a confession, they will be tortured. one of these days i am going to have my recording on FOX news, and i would like to see your face when everyone listen to it and realizes that indeed the UAE condones torture. great that day when i walked in that police station with a concealed recorder (just in case), what a slap in their face, now i got the whole interrogation on tape, the cop now is probably keeping camels outof sight somewhere in the desert. the Dubai gov knows i have it, and it is in a safe location. The full transcript of the interrogation is in my book for everybody to see. What is it with this spy obession, a spy is an extension of a government, spies dont go around on their own, they act upon orders from the highest authorities of a Government. so vent you hatred to the french government, not me. I am sure you are not that naive to beleive that the UAE does not have spies, but are those ok with you? yes or no? the law suit for child slavery against Sheikh Mohammed was settled in november 2008, it is not that far years ago. what he did was the worst form of slavery and he got caught. child slavery was banned only because and after he got caught by the international society. not before. i invite here anyone to visit the liquore stores and you will see, that kandourahs are certainly not a minority or isolate. in the free world a passport is taken away only in case of conviction, in the UAE a simple delation is enough. before conviction. in the UAE you are guilty until proven guilty. in the US, if you owed $200,000$ to someone, your passport would NOT be taken away. you see the difference. so say what you want, but tell poeple how it works before they come to Dubai, so they can make the decision to work somewhere else and not be lured under false pretense. Speedhump
I don't intend to waste a lot more time on this.
People cheat on husbands/wives worldwide, flouting the religious and secular laws in every country, you are being disingenuous to imply it only happens here.
Every person in the UAE with two brain cells or more KNOWS that bouncing cheques (e.g. for car payments) is a criminal offense. It is up to YOU to find out what is the punishment if you intend to come here and break the law. Have you heard of Google searches.....?
If the French government hired a UAE national for some sensitive project (unlikely of course) and found out he had been a national spy (which means he very well still may be, as it's all about complete deception), he would have been handed over to the French secret service and would have been dealt with covertly. You know this. Don't try to imply your treatment was a one way street. Their fault if any was to take you on trust (as arabs have a way of doing) and not to check deeply enough into your background.
To the best of my knowledge, which is not all encompassing but based on 10 years of visiting/living in UAE is certainly better than yours, child slave labour was not and is not legal here. Laws cannot exist against every single human action which is not acceptable. Child jockeys were employed by racing camel farms until banned in 2002, and stronger laws were introduced 2 or 3 years later. Some still do it, outside the law, at illegal races. Individuals in all countries break the law, some get caught by police. Your spying for example was illegal. Your decision.
In the US, like most countries, if you are an 'undesirable' or there is a legal case against you and there is a possibility you may flee, your passport may be confiscated if the court so decides. Before trial and before conviction. Football hooligans in the UK can have their passports taken away so they can't travel.
Now everything has been said a least twice, so there's nothing else to say, except that I go to a private bottle shop twice a month for over four years outside Dubai Emirate, and have NEVER ONCE seen a kandourah there. Did you find your photo on the Internet? Also I wonder how you will prove the veracity of your taped interrogation. Quite frankly it would be easy for you to 'mock up' something like this to back up your bitter story. Call me cynical, but stories of police or governmental brutality are a dime a dozen even in France, UK, USA. Why should I bother to read yours just because it's about the UAE? uaekid
Man, you clearly got the classic Dubai syndrome :lol: ! you know, the I'm happy in Dubai and when you get kicked out ,it is all bad !!
Now every single thing you said has its own thread in this forum "trust me ". non of your so called facts are new to anyone here, so will you stop jumping on every dam thread and applying your stupid adventure on it LOOOL. Get over it man it is getting ridiculous.
"Ran away on a boat" give me a break. I think your book will be in the kids story section, your story reminded me the classic Rambo movies. 8) herve the phone number, name and voice of the police officer is identifiable. did i fake the police station too? it is probably even recorded on their side too, it is easy for you to imply that my recording is a fake, cowardly hiding behind this forum, i would have a feast dragging you to a US court for that, why dont you go public with this, come come forward, show me some courage. even the lawyers from the UAE gov have not tried that one. i welcome any lawyers who will claim otherwise, and sue them right back big time, not in the UAE of course where the judiciary is not independant, in the US where they have assets. Actually they dont deny it, rather it would be smarter to claim that the cop was bluffing to scare me. you dont seem to understand that i prepared for this for 9 months, that my case is solid concrete. and that i have more in store. my problems had nothing to do with my previous line of work, my problem was that people were trying to extort from me, simple. they did not care what i did before for my gov, and the proof is that if they did, they would have taken more precautions when they started to persecute me. i took that picture myself , along many others, that i will post on iternet. dont put the UAE and the free world on the same level, of course people cheat on spouses everywhere, that is not my point, but if you get caught cheating on your wife in france , you got a problem with your wife, that s it, in the UAE you go to prison, for a long time, you lose your job, then you are deported and lose you assets, there is a big difference. in the US if you miss 3 cars payments they take your car back, period, in the UAE you go to prison, lose your job and are deported, (without the car). you are missing the point, i am not giving an opinion, i am exposing verifiable facts, and living in the UAE is certainy not better than to live in France, for a thousands reasons, starting that you dont go to prison for the sillest reasons. have you been to France? Really you have to read my book,all is true, you are going to love it and discover many things, you can tell here you wont read it, it is ok, i know you will, trust me. it was cool the tricks i played to get out. movie material but real. and so embarrassing for the UAE.
uaekid sad naruto herve does not exsist herve does not exsist herve does not exsist herve does not exsist herve does not exsist herve does not exsist herve does not exsist.... RobbyG
My grip is superb.
Every story has got two sides. The 'simple' expats live their life in a reasonable secure company environment and entrepreneurs are mostly 'einzelgangers' that are strong negotiators that either succeed or fail. They endure more hardhip in the efforts they put out. Herve has his experience which he writes in a book. Totally plausible.
I understand you being a cynic. I'm one of the strongest around too, but I know there's more behind this story. Muslim culture is not really the most open society for everyone. As UAE kid put it recently to me, that we (the West) are the worst of cultures and he does not want to open up to it. (Biased as hell).
Its clear that some people are so focussed on themselves and their own situation that they lose conscience about what really happens below the 'dream' surface or better said 'rosebed'. Every rosebed has thorns hiding beneath it. Just face it and you'll come out as a more complete person.
I actually have a firm believe in Herve Jaubert's story as he simply has a history which is intriguing. Doesn't make it true, but I'm willing to read his book before making to much critical arguments (like you tend to do upfront) and therefore I put my opinion out AFTER I read his book. In the mean time, I try to find plausibility to read (buy) his book. I'm convinced he has a story worth reading!
Every word you say without backing it with facts of Herve's experiences, is simply a biased view and as such a weakness from you Speedhump.
Just read the book and critize afterwards. I think our societies are somewhat further in our freedom (and I'm being easy with my expression here) and you can learn a lot by simply facing the truth and open up your minds.
"What a person doesn't know, will not hurt him." RobbyG
:lol: :lol: :lol:
In optimum denial mode :wink: gtmash
...in true Dubai style. Speedhump
Your argument is self-defeating. You admit you WANT to believe him and so you will read his book to try to find some truth in it. I smell in him someone who has an eye to making money, so I just doubt that his story is exactly as he says. Nice that he had someone to take pictures of him in his frogman outfit and dressing up as a woman. You can almost see the speech bubble over his head 'this will make a great book'. He is the biggest self-publicist I saw here yet, beating you and RedKite into a cocked hat (no insult meant, I dont have a problem with you plugging your websites). I also still have no idea why he would not 'escape' from Khor Kalba or Fujairah where security is so much more lax and the journey a good deal shorter. Anyway, I'm not really interested.
I run my own company here, I know the knocks and I know the risks that I take in being here. This word rosebed that keeps cropping up, who believes this place is a rosebed? Every country has its cupboard full of skeletons, but who needs to read the dirty details except the people that have to clean it up? Example, you know that child pr0n exists, do you need to see it on paper to believe?
If it wasn't for people like me, some people (maybe you) you would still be buying snake oil, because 'it might be true', exactly why you will give this guy money by buying his book. If he had such a real solid case backed with factual evidence he would have taken it to his country's authorities if he wanted justice, not written a book and put up a website full of emotive language. Did you think of that?
Robby, your way of thinking is why the trashy tabloid newspapers sell so many copies, because people love to rake the muck. It's not my way, I know there's sh*t beneath there grass, all over the world. If it comes to you then deal with it, otherwise just leave it be. Life is really too short and this guy plainly just wants to dump on the UAE, whether he has reason or not, I don't know. Just don't expect any rationality in his book, He's French and he's hopping mad! RobbyG Actually, I never read books from 'one day writers'. But this one looks very interesting, as Herve was a close initial allie of the Sheikh and his following. In my article on my website recently, I also wrote about the Sheikh Mo reinstalling the Diwan (royal court) after recognizing that giving power to his lieutenants outside his family and tribal inner-circle makes transparacy hard to see for the outer world. So Herve could be under scrutiny of those people instead of the 'real honest government' bodies. Anyway, I want to read his book as my critic arguments about the book and Herve's experience must be based on what he says in the book. Not just coming from a few rosegarden locals that sit on goverment payrolls. You understand? I like to be informed from different sides of the game just to avoid making the biggest mistake of my life by moving to a society where I can get locked for life. I'm thorough in such matters. And Herve has an interesting case. I dont mind if he makes a few dimes (read millions) from his books. There are more people who've done it with less interesting topics....US octuple mom :) Speedhump
Thanks, I knew it was like that but I didn't have the facts. This guy only wants to show one side of the story of the UAE and throws half facts around like confetti. herve speedhump, you will read my book, you dont have to say it though, but you are burning to read it, what you dont want is everybody else to read it, they might find some reasons to avoid Dubai and avoid Emirati's, but that you cant say. so you got a dilemma here, how tell people not to read a book if you have not read it for yourself, or tell people to read it because you dont care anyways, but if you did not care then you would not be spewing your venom here. Speedhump
No wonder you're an EX spy! You jump in with both feet don't you. I would be so happy if people ignored Dubai and stopped coming here. I don't make my living from renting apartments or selling cars. Dubai was a nice quiet place a few years ago. I would be incredibly pleased if your book stopped people coming here. I don't need Dubai to look wonderful for me to live here in peace and make a good living. I don't work for the government , have done private business here for around twelve years and don't really have any problems with the place. I came here of my own volition, not on a company tour, not running away from debts or crime. I had friends living here and I followed them because I saw it was a nice peaceful and crime-free place for my family. Things have changed to some extent since Dubai decided to become a world city. I for one regret it.
I have no wish or need at all to read your book, that's a firm promise, and I think you are generating bad publicity for yourself with all your gloating about how wonderful your book is. As you obviously have a huge axe to grind with the UAE nobody will be able to take your story seriously. Your supporter viking-whatever is so abusive about the UAE and locals he also is bad publicity for you. They are good and bad, just like everyone else. His astonishingly racist remarks drag you down.
Now, I'm finished publicising your book on this forum. No more from me. Speedhump
Fair comment. You will read his book as research which of course makes sense. Most people will just buy it because they want to read a horror story. And that's exactly how he and his cronies are promoting it. herve if Dubai claimed what it really is, i would not have written a book, because i would have not gone to dubai. This is the problem here, you dont know to whom you got married until it is too late, Dubai invites everyone to visit but hides the fact that you can be a criminal in the UAE and jailed indefinitively for something that would get you a ticket in the free world. it is a fraud to claim that dubai has the most beautiful beaches in the world, it is a fraud to claim it is an open society, it is a fraud to claim that a famous US developper has invested in a hotel on the palm jumeirah to attract investors, when he has not put a single dollar so far.it is a fraud to claim it is tax free when you do pay taxes. it is fraud, you go to prison if you do that in the US. but in the UAE it is normal government business, state lies. you said you ran a business, but few knows that an emirati must own it. 51%, you were no exception. otherwise please explain. and how comfortable do you feel to live in a country on a mere guest visa that you have to renew every 3 years, where you will never , ever be considered a member of their society. 12 years you said, in the US, in France you would get citizenship, in the UAE that is not going to happen anytime soon, should anything hapened to you, i wish not, and that you got deported for it, you would lose everything you can lose. it is not a horror story, not an opinion, i am not insulting anyone, i am giving facts, verifiable facts, the truth. now because i got screwed, i explained how i got out, but it is a damn good story. Speedhump
Sorry but you show your total ignorance of the UAE again.
Free Zone company, no sponsor. No income tax anywhere in UAE, yet.
So you can't become a UAE citizen. So the UAE is not like your country. So what? You sound pathetic, honestly. herve wrong, you are the ignorant, no taxes in the free zone, true, but a free zone company cannot do business in Dubai. to sell shoes, or TV sets in dubai, or provide services in Dubai you need a UAE sponsor, who owns 51%, and you do have to pay taxes. 12 years and you dont know that? what kind of business were you in? where are you from speedhump or is it a secret? sage & onion
You obviously think you know all about how to operate here in Dubai, however you hate the place right? herve is there anything false in my quote? please, elaborate. i certainly do not know all about dubai, but my quote is true. and i dont hate the place either, the place in itself presents no interest , no thugs in the streets, but it is a dangerous place, overrated 100 times fold. sage & onion
If it presents no interest to you, what are you doing here on Dubai Forums ? herve you always run from embarrassing questions? is my quote true or false. i will be everywhere somebody tells Dubai is a wonderful place. because i want to know why, and tell why it is not. sage & onion
Well I live here and unlike you I am not into constantly trashing the place. uaekid
promoting his up coming book "IF".... he knows the Americans careless what happens outside their boarders so who is going to by his book ? people in the UAE. he got to market it.
I for one is looking forward for it, but want buy it though, it's not worth a penny neither any publication company will see it worth printing, they have to make money out of it.
herve,
there is a news paper in the US in Arabic one that use to only write news of the UAE but not the regular news we read ! its more of this guy fucked this woman. the GOV did this and that ... it is a cheap news paper that concentrate on UAE cheap new and shacks ( there you go, I gave you a good source ), not only that but they use the same language as your FUCK SHIT and so on and the publisher is a former GM in UAE gov I believe, this newspaper was there for over 10 years now. and just as an advice no one care for it neither bother to pick it up even when it's free so they ended up doing sex toys and dating adds to keep it going, I'm serious man look it up if it's still being published. be a joke like them but please add me to your list when you'll start the dating service .
ps . you also ran a way fro answering my questions !!
good luck. I for one is done with you. Speedhump
I repeat, you are very ignorant of the commercial aspects of the UAE. What do you think Free Zone companies do if not make money? What I do is my own business but I trade internationally, worldwide. I already told you I don't sell things inside the UAE so I don't give a hoot if the population drops to a million, in fact I would welcome it.
Your sarcasm is misplaced, after 12 years here I know a lot but say little.
Please tell me what taxes I pay on my income, O wise one (there's real sarcasm for you....)? That's income, not expenditure (we all know that Municipality tax applies to some things you pay for here).
I'm from the UK by the way, as you asked. Why do you think it's secret, you didn't ask me before? Strange remark. RobbyG
Thats fine too with me. Everybody has got his own reasons to buy it. Or not buy it. Democracy...unless the book will be banned from sales in the UAE ;) sage & onion
This book, if ever written / finished will almost certainly not be available here RobbyG Thats what I'm worrying about. Always the government intervention... sad day for freedom. But I can live with it. :D sage & onion
If you are in Holland you will be able to get a copy, don't worry. RobbyG
Don't worry about me. I can live with it. Can you?
I'm thinking the broad way. Not just from my perspective as most of us on DF do ;) Speedhump Good, I'm glad no-one's worried then :D Including Saint Robby who has decided not to make up his mind until after he has parted with his money, although he already said he wants to believe it's true :) Just kidding with you, do read it and report back to the DF Cynics' Society and the Nationals With Heads In The Sand Brigade ;) RobbyG Ill do some honest reporting after I read it OK? I promise I don't get paid by Herve :D just to show thorns or accept oil dollars from sheiks and colour a rosebed. ;) Bora Bora Herve said: Hypocrisy, when having children out of marriage can land a couple straight to jail, but Sheikh Mohammed with 17 children i find hard to beleive he had 16 of them with only one wife For your info Herve, Sheikh Mohammed and Sheikha Hind took children from an orphanage into their home and raised them - taking them in and fostering them. These are children without family. This is something that some local families do. You see, this is part of the Emirati culture that people know little about. As for the photo of the local, I don't see him purchasing liquor but I do see a vending machine behind the cashier. There are no liquor stores in Dubai but there are Duty Free and outlets run by MMI and African & Eastern and locals would never ever be able to make a purchase from them, especially in local dress!! And if this is a local purchasing liquor in a liquor store in local dress, possibly it was being done somewhere else in a non-Muslim country. And if he is buying liquor, so what? I am sure you sat around and threw back a few with locals (while they were in western clothing) in someone's home, or at a restaurant or a bar either in Dubai or when traveling outside the UAE. Did you learn about the laws of the UAE only after you ran into trouble? or prior to your trouble? I think as a ex-spy you would have trouble finding work anywhere in the world. You were working for a company owned by the government and associated with the Dubai Ports Authority - a government owned entity. Learning that you were a spy working for a government entity would definitely raise eyebrows. Being an ex-spy is a stigma that you will live with for the rest of your life. I can't imagine a government would hire you knowing you were an ex-spy. When you were playing 007 how many things did you do that were illegal in order to get information? As for your book, I gather you came on this forum to promote it as it would reach expats in Dubai as well as DF members from all over the world. I would think promoting your book would be your publisher's job. Speedhump
LOL, sounds good! :) herve the guy was not buying a pair of socks or chewing gums, everytime i went to MMI i saw Emirati's buying booze, personally i dont care if they buys alcohol or not, they are 2 faces, that s it. no big deal, but when they bring to me morality i can t help to laugh loud, i never sat around to drink with locals either, i watched, that s the irony, i am not a muslim and i dont drink. I learnt about the UAE laws after, before, i was like everybody else, i beleived what i was told, that Dubai was an open society. you dont know what s the like of being a spy, you can ask but dont say anything if you dont know. There is no perfect job indeed, but i guarantee you there is no stigma to carry, many things you learn and do are the ultimate things you can experience in life. the only difficulty in finding a job for guys like us after that , is to find one where you don't bore to death. so many times i got out of difficult situations in my personal life because of the skills i developped while i was an operative. my escape is a perfect example. beleive me, it is very , very difficult to exit the UAE if they have confiscated your passport. as far as the illegal things i may have done in the UAE to get out, it is simple, there cannot be any crimes committed while defending yourself against crimes or frauds. this is why i am not shy to disclose in my book the illegal things i may have done . promoting is my publisher 's job, indeed, coming in june. but your question is not innocent, you are smart but you are busted. Biased opinions always amuse me, this is why i come here. uaekid
ok I got lost here and I don't know where did I read that RobbyG is NOT in UAE :shock: !!! so what was all the judgments, comments and conclusions about Dubai and it's ppl ?
not only that but he is denying it even though he made a blog about it.
talk about people with too much free time in their hands :lol: . RobbyG
I would never judge people before knowing them. I do make fun of everyone ;)
What can I give you more than a non-biased view being non-resident of the UAE and the most neutral person ;) in the world: A Flying dutchman.
I don't know anymore treats for you to please my authenticity. And as you know, I would love to come to Dubai but not without me getting a career first! Still I don't pick sides, I review them from a distance.
Should suit a lot of you ;) Bora Bora
Well I guess the illegal things you claim to have done in Dubai you learned from your past experiences. So, you committed crimes, or did illegal things, while working as a spy, correct? Spys have one rule: there are no rules. So you do whatever you need to do to get the job done, correct? Bora Bora
I don't think he has even flown over Dubai, never mind actually been in Dubai. But as he says, when he has a career he hopes one day to go to Dubai. I guess he hasn't decided what he wants to be when he grows up, or, he is really good at anything and I don't think its free time he's holding in his hand. uaekid
well I guess it's you then who got so much free time in her\his hand to answer the question intended to another person who by the way answered it already :roll:
talk about ass kissing :lol: herve
What are you talking about, i was not working as a spy in Dubai, you are insane, i quit 11 years before that, i want to beleive you are claiming that to divert from the real causes of the persecution i was the victim of, and Dubai World knew about it anyways.
You got it all wrong, and naive to beleive that i would admit any guilt.
they were the criminals, not me, i was in self defense. when a government is threatening you to be tortured or locked up in a cave underground, you can takes whatever steps are required to save your skin from those savages, regardless if it is breaking their laws or not. i wish you are never in a situation like that, i would like to see your face if it happens. RobbyG
Herve,
You can talk whatever you want (free to do that) but if you will ever make sense in the eyes of some out there, I doubt that. Some are so intensely crippled with biased views, that a reasonable conversation would result in old fashioned Gaza-like stonethrowing. Some people on this forum assume to much without asking properly.
@caveman Bora Bora:
See Kitty, there are more caves where you can hide. Even Herve knows a few where I can one day 'smoke you out'. ;) Misery Called Life yea lets all reserve our judjements until after Robby is done reading the book....Since none of us will be able to buy it! herve it will be available in Dubai through internet orders, there are many ways to go around the blockade. actually the best promo i can get is if they block it. herve
borabora, speedhump......you really are blind, and you only see what suits you

Sheikh Mohammed did father children with women he was not married to.
anyone else caught doing the same goes to prison for 18 months. but i guess he is above the law, and you swallow it.
do you know what you are for these people speedump, a nothing, an expandable goods, and you worship them? worship your queen, the UK has much more of history, culture and accomplishments. Speedhump
Muslims are allowed more than one wife, I hope that's not news to you. The Sheikh has two who have given him thirteen children. And the five children whose mothers are unknown, you're saying you have proof they were not just taken in, adopted? Really? Please stop with the half truths again. In any case according to your beliefs Mo would have had them drowned at birth to hush it all up......
I don't worship anyone mate, least of all the locals here who will happily ask me to leave if I decide to stop working. But I knew that when I came here and I'm perfectly at ease with it, so what business is it of yours? I am here for me and me alone. sage & onion
Well said Speedhump RobbyG @Speedhump and Bora Caveman; Put down the pink glasses boys. You guys are properly punked now. We got a new breed on this forum: 'The Pinkies' ;) Bora Bora
^^^^^Confetti^^^^^^^
Again you comment on something you have no experience on other than what you can find on the internet. That is not experience, nor is it always accurate. RobbyG I didn't check it. I reckon Herve did. Anyway, you throw confetti all day long. Now its my turn for once, Mr. Pinky... ;) Speedhump
You admit you make statements without facts and have no proof that any children were born out of 'wedlock' (the correct term). I don't ignore smoking guns but you don't have one.
You DO say the facts are bad, so you are not being truthful here. I wonder, does your book actually say ANYTHING nice about the UAE?
You are a stupid man to believe you can identify someone's country origin from the way they write English, but I see that so many times here (about other forum users but NEVER about me before, that's quite funny), that I'll just lump you in with the others who jump in with both feet. I'm UK born white English and educated to UK 'A' level in English among other things. For a Frenchman to make such a statement is quite ludicrous and is another reason why I don't believe your book will be completely truthful. I'm not saying that you didn't leave Dubai in a rubber boat, I have no idea, but I believe that you probably are good at 'embellishing' facts wth extra detail. It's that spy thing again. A little truth, a lot of lies, hard to spot. Speedhump
He checked nothing, he threw it in a fit of French pique.
Is that pink as in champagne? I prefer just plain vintage please. herve yes you are right for once, i did not check in in those caves, because i escaped before that. for once you admited yourself that you live in a country, ready to pack and go the day something will got south. there is something wrong with this picture. this is not a normal way of living. and I know very well muslims can have several wifes, but that is not the point here, you must do it on purpose, the point is that there is double standard, and hypocrisy, he did have children with women he was not married to, what does it have to do here that a muslim can have several wives., he is still breaking the law to father children out of bedlock. in addition, you are twice wrong, anyone, not just muslims can have several wives in Dubai. the laws of dubai apply to anyone regardless if they are muslim, buddhist or christians. divorce, mariage, inheritance, it is the punishment that differs depending of the faith. of course what free world woman would accept to be the 2 nd or 3 rd wife, how long did you say you studied the Emirates? just admit the facts, i am not saying they are bad or good, only that s the way it is in dubai. you are so one sided, that even if i pulled a smocking gun out of an emirati 's hand you would still deny it, or say wasnt his. you say you from the UK, I dont know you but i would assume by the way you write , that you carry a UK passport with a pakistani or indian descent, does not mean you are british. This is not a racial opinion, so dont even go there, i have very good Indian and Pakistani friends who do not hide behind another country passport to make statements. Speedhump By the way herve, you ony say I am right when I agree with you. Again, it shows your inability to see anything other than your own side of the picture, exactly that which you accuse me of. sage & onion
Well said again, I believe this person has absolutley nothing to say good about Dubai or any of it's people. herve
i just dont understand how a born british can be this so one sided, that s all. i put the link about Sheikh Mohammed Children, although i know this inforation from personal relations i got the proof from a website that is neutral legitimate and recognized, it shows clearly that he is the biological father of these children, when you deny my statement you imply they are lying as well.
when i say you are right it is because you are right, not because it is in agreement with what i say. again i dont embellish antyhing, you know nothing in publishing, these guys check everything before printing anything, especially on a sensitive subject like this. i have the bill of sale from HH, copies of police reports in India, and so many documents that shows clearly the path i have taken.
i do put positive features in my book about Dubai, a very few though.
i dont know if you have traveled a lot, but i can tell you, that if you are looking for a beautiful beach, a fabulous concert, a exquisite cuisine, or even a best tour in the desert, it is not in Dubai that you are going to find it. THAT is a lie.
Although you claim you will not read my book, you should, i promise beyond the facts you will not like, true facts, verifiable by yourself, you will find out practical information, like how the police monitors and track people, how you can get screwed doing business in Dubai, i mean who does not want to know that. again i give little hints so you can verify by yourself.
i am curious, and it would enlight me, if you gave me only 5 reasons , quickly, to justify a travel or a living in dubai that overcomes any other place in the world, and then i ll give my comments, 5 reasons why you like it so much there. Speedhump
I will wrap this up quickly.
The royal website shows many children by his three wives and 5 others I think. It does not say he fathered the five. Let's drop this then as you are reading this information completely differently to me, maybe because you subconsciously want to read bad into it. I don't believe that it's me that's being one-sided.
Police all over the world have to do their job, they are given access to information and tools that others are not. If it keep the UAE clean and relatively crime free it's OK by me. We are not talking about corruption in this instance, although police corruption again exists in the most civilised countries.
I have never said I love Dubai and Emiratis (although I don't have any hatred for them) and that it's the best place on earth. I think you have answered so many critics you are now thoroughly confused. I LIKE being here, it's a different culture and so it intrigues me still, it's income tax free, it's close to some of my main markets, my lifestyle is good, despite the ridiculous pace of progress here which is changing Dubai for the worse in my opinion, I am still happy here. It's still a wide open city for business, or will be when the world starts to spend money again. Singapore, Monaco or Hong Kong for example just don't cut it. I like to be different, although with the amount of Brits here nowadays that's not working out so well, maybe my wife and I should try Vietnam next, I can do my business anywhere in the world.
With respect, if you do make comments, I may not reply as I think we're going over the same ground repeatedly now. herve you just said 3 wives, THANK YOU, because he has 2 wives, official even on HH website. not three. done, he is guilty. so i will not have to write to royal forums and ask them confirmation and deliver here the smoking gun. i rest my case, you lose and i respect you, i am sure we ll meet on other threads, no mean to offend you really. La Verite derange Speedhump
I lose? You are so childish, was this a competiton, yani, who would buy your book that has read your comments here?
I don't know if he has 2 or 3 wives, and I wouldn't put my trust in a royal forum website anyway. herve 10 minutes ago you said he has 3 wives, now you dont know if has 2 or 3. do you know what you are saying? you would not trust anything that does not suit you, but you would trust anything coming from soupe a l ognon and uaekid i only have a few posts here, they would fill may be 4 pages, my book has 400, 396 to go speedhump! Bora Bora It doesn't matter how many wives he has/had, or children. The fact is they are all well taken care of. Outside the UAE and Middle East countries, men keep mistresses and father children with them. These men can barely provide for two families and when they have had enough of the mistress they take a walk. Bora Bora Herve, I can honestly say that you have little credibility. As you claim to have been spy, you were conditioned to lie and commit crimes in order to do your "job". I don't believe you were able to just turn off that conditioning when you left spyhood. I guess you justify it by the fact that you were "working" and getting paid to do it. I would describe it as an addict who kicked the habit but the behavior is still there. herve agree, i am sure they are very well taken care of, what matters is the double standard, the difference with outside the UAE is that in dubai, anybody else will go to prison, for 18 months, regardless how good the baby is taken care of or not. honestly, do you think 18 months prison is a justifiable punishment for a non married couple to have a baby? this is barbaric herve
where did i lie, give me one Bora Bora
Err, when you were a spy? herve
many lives have been saved, many wars avoided, thanks to the never revealed works of secret agents. your words will never affect people like me, because you are ignorant, and the work they (we) do is beyond your comprehension.
i myself, risked my life with my team, to stop the highjacking of a boeing 747. tell what you think of people like me to the passengers of this flight or any other violent hostages situation. only if you were in a situation like that i would see in your eyes, like before i saw in other's eyes, absolute fear, and begs for your life, only then i guarantee you, you would show some respect. for my guys , it was just a job, and a hell of a ride. Bora Bora
Stopping a highjacking is one thing. I also thought that secret agents had multiple identities and once they left the service their background was never revealed. Every country has spies. But your purpose here is to whinge about an alleged disservice that was done to you while in Dubai, and after admitting that you were a spy in the Middle East for 10 years. Is your past to be ignored in this saga? I am just saying that you portray yourself as some kind of innocent victim. I am sure that if what you alleged didn't happen you would never have trashed Dubai. sage & onion
This is the subject of the thread RobbyG
Don't you want to fill the end of the month with it?
Code of conduct with a former spy around is quite the opposite really ;)
Ok Herve, give the guys some positive talk. The onion for instance needs a rosebed before he sleeps well. Remember that people need two ways of reporting. Good and Bad. Cover it up a bit.
Shouldnt be a problem for a (former) spy. 8)



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