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This really annoys me....


gezza That would still be bearable if they could stop staring at your girl like a starved jackal stares at a steak. We caught a pack once surrounding a girl who was alone in the pool, until her boyfriend - a rather big guy - showed up and they all fled like, you guessed it, jackals. (quote taken from another thread) Dont they have women in their own country.
Flying Dutchman Obviously there are deprived...Although truth is, when I walk on the streets of Dubai and men look at my girl, I do feel a bit proud. Also bad is, that lately the gay community in Dubai seems to get aggresive and start touching you without any reason given. That´s what is really upsetting me! :twisted: gtmash
They do have women in their own country. The thing is, they are not allowed to bring their women here with them. Minimum salary cap and all. gezza I wouldn't say GAY COMMUNITY mate......I would say just deprived Pakistanis. as for proud!!!?... Makes me feel violated. Espically when they stare at my daughter. :twisted: gezza
Still gives them no right to make my wife feel uncomfortable. Flying Dutchman
I am not sure where the daughter came in, but I meant my girlfriend.
My point is, there is a difference between hungry eyes (which are offending) and a small headturn. With the latter I have no problems. And yes, I rather see a small headturn than instantaneously puking! shafique
So, let me get this straight, other men admiring your girlfriend is ok - it's just the extent of the lust they have for her that they show in public that offends you.
It's ok to have an extended look and assess her attributes (that she's a looker rather than a minger - for example). It's ok for them to say to themselves at that moment 'tasty', 'I wouldn't say no' or something similar.
However if they stare as if the sight of a woman is something alien to them in their day to day lives, this causes offence.
Have I got that right?
:roll:
Cheers,
Shafique Flying Dutchman An extended look would offend me, not a headturn. So I would agree with your statement if you replace extended look with a small headturn. Then they can briefly assess what ever they want... HP Put ur daughter , girl friend or wife in black veil :lol: There r so many suicide bombers in Pakistan , can we not express our feeling abroad? :P I have x-raw machine in my eyes and i always look at girls as i am gonna eat them :lol: HP
How do u know if someone is Pakistani ? Are Pakistani people having "PAK number plate" ?
Its indian people , am i right Jits ? :lol:

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Flying Dutchman HP, thank you so much for your constructive contributions! burton
I guess it's just another one of those very personal things. Because what Dutchman wrote sounds perfectly acceptable to me!
Men look or check-out women, women do the same. But there are degrees of obviousness. There is a way to do it...
The feeling of pride which a man gets when he knows that his wife or gf is viewed as attractive by other males - and even women - is a perfectly natural one, in western society at least (I will admit that things might change a little in Eastern or more conservative parts of the world). Any guy being honest for a second will admit as much. It is an ego boost, and something very primal too...
But going back to what is actually acceptable - a nod/word passed between a bunch of guys, a 'longer than usual' glance, a sucking in of breath...these happen every day. I don't think many blokes get put out by it.
But at some undefinable point, a line can be crossed and the behaviour we are talking about becomes offensive - perhaps it's when that 'casual' look turns into a full five minute stare? Or maybe at the start of a more raucous laughter/slapping of backs etc between a bunch of blokes? Or could it be the famous cat whistle?
I'm not entirely sure. That's why I will admit - it can be a very personal issue, what the individual finds offensive.
But in general, I think there are some very broad guidelines/boundaries which are shared by quite a few men... Dubaidude007
Thats what happens when u go for a stoll through a labour camp! gtmash
Yeah, the labour camp called Dubai. kanelli It is a fact that every man and woman will check out another man or woman they find attractive. It can be a beautiful face or beautiful body, whatever! I've double-taken a look at handsome men or beautiful women in dishdashas and abayyas. I completely agree that taking a look should be discreet and tasteful - just use your peripheral vision or make more frequent glances. All out staring for a long time, and most definitely physically getting close to the person etc. is absolutely rude. Quite a few men in Dubai are very basic when it comes to manners and they are incapable of being discreet. I've seen guy ma.st.ur.bating in front of my car in the Mall of Emirates parking garage, so lots of pent up s.e.x.ual frustration to be found in Dubai I guess :lol: ^ian^ On one hand I sympathise, on the other I'm not sure. A lot of these guys see their family once a year if they're lucky, and sometimes it can be very hard to fight the primal urges. On the other hand, people need to control themselves, or be kept in control. I feel uncomfortable sometimes if guys stare at my girlfriend, but I don't dwell on it as firstly, I doubt she's going to all of a sudden run off with them, and secondly, it is really not doing any harm at all... god knows I've seen some beautiful women in my life. However, were it to go any further, if they touched her... I'd snap their arms off. In a nice way. shafique
I totally agree with you - and you have summed it up well.
It +is+ the norm in many societies to take pride in the appearance of your woman and feel pride when they attract positive attention from other men and women. You are also right that some other societies this is not the norm and what provides an ego boost will be viewed differently in these other societies.
Kanelli is also totally right to say that all humans are naturally attracted to the beauties of others. We all programmed to find others attractive. Advertisers know this all too well. :)
At the end of the day, these are matters of choice and custom - I can choose whether to ogle or not, and we all can choose the extent to which we display our natural beauties.
I was just interested here in the view that it is the degree of attention that causes offence and not that others may be attracted to one's woman. I'm not a woman, so can't comment on whether this view is tantamount to objectification of women (as possessions to be flaunted), but would imagine that for some women it would be.
Cheers,
Shafique Dubaidude007 This is a problem in Dubai that is hard to address. I agree with the posters who say it is hard on these single men because they are away from their families and give in to basic primal urges. It is one thing to give someone a quick admiring glance or a once over- this can be flaterring but to out right leer is a completely different animal. I just can't imagine being so hard up (no pun intended) to loose any basic senses of morality and acceptable public behaviour. What Kaneli described about the guy mas**rbating in fromt of her car, should be a criminal offense, I bet if you had reported him it would have been. gtmash
Must be a hot car. Is it a Corolla 2008?
St.Lucifer
I bet a girlfriend or wife of a super hot/rich n powerful guy would feel the same when her guy is at the receiving end of ogling. Now let me ask how many of us men dont like strutting it around... or should that guy be behind the black clothes as well? shafique dup post shafique
Well, typically the cultures who do encourage modest dress apply the same modesty to men as well.
On the point that women will be just as proud to show off their men..I've read though that women are more possessive and aren't too happy with younger, fitter or more attractive women checking out their husbands... but then again, I'm not a woman. :wink:
Cheers,
Shafique St.Lucifer
:D
I bet they are, but would it not increase the frustration and lure to see what shouldnt be seen ?? the eternal adam n eve theroy?
People will still have to restrain themselves to not look on to things that they shouldnt. Yeats
well a counter argument can be that ur wife, girlfriend, mistress or/and daughter should dress up more conservatively next time they go out. u live in a conservative society in case u didnt know.
ofcourse theyr gonna react the way they react because it is foreign to them and it sends them a lot of mixed signals. their only interaction with white naked women are thru movies and magazines.
but then again i find ur metaphor quite a racist one. i think wetsren men are the real jackasses jackals. because if we take for granted men's testosteronic aggression anywhere in the word, by proportionate misbehavior, wetsren men will top the categories of rape crimes, criminalities, dometic violence...etc? Flying Dutchman Some interesting points you raise indeed Yeats. Although I am far from conservative, sometimes when I see women in Dubai, I think "you really shouldn´t dress this way", because I see it can be very offensive according to local culture. The thread started however with an example of a woman sitting near the pool. Or do you also imply that all women should wear burqini´s there? The pool is a closed place and you can decide to go there or not... As for Western men. What is according to you a Western man? Somebody living in a Western country? Than you are most probably right. Or somebody from a Western background? Than you are wrong I think. Yeats
quite certainly i dont expect burqas in swimming pools :D ... i dont know what i can suggest in such a situation except being understanding from the prey's side (however ridiculous that may sound) and a slap on the face for the 'jackal'.. there isnt a great way of accepting both as they r opposing lifestyles. reviewer No one individual can expect to please everyone...either way its just a matter of live and let live..... gezza [quote="Yeats"]
well a counter argument can be that ur wife, girlfriend, mistress or/and daughter should dress up more conservatively next time they go out. u live in a conservative society in case u didnt know.
read this....
I've seen guy ma.st.ur.bating in front of my car in the Mall of Emirates parking garage, so lots of pent up s.e.x.ual frustration to be found in Dubai I guess .
my point proven.?? Medvezhonok
Haha yeah, I'm the one who wrote that a while back in a Wild Wadi thread. gtmash Where is this pool in which random groups of men can freely enter? I'd like to go there. bushra21 DP bushra21
It doesn't matter what dress you wear, men here still stare. I dont know how much more conservative one can get when covered head to toe.... Also, that is a horrible generalization people (arabs + arab men especially) make. If a female is being hassled by a male she didnt necessarily ask for it, or draw any attention to herself to get it. It is so easy to catch a mans eye here....like others said, it could be due to that pent up se-xual frustrations..
I'm also quite interested in seeing you statistics proving that western men are what you say they are. Medvezhonok
Wild Wadi. And where did anyone mention anything about it being free? Flying Dutchman The only thing I could find that is coming remotely close is based on UN statistics:
Mind you, these only include reported rapes and donot provide figures based on ethnicity.
Although one can have an unendless discussion about the worth of the statistics, western countries seem to score high...
No statistics about UAE though... reviewer
That's one of the main problem, since subjects such as rapes, domestic abuse and sexual harassment are social taboo in any male dominated society . Women are reluctant if not afraid to report such things out of shame and embarrassment (even death). reviewer OOPS...damn thats a DP :oops: kanelli And don't forget that in the West men and woman are allowed to mix freely and they also consume alcohol. It has been well established that rape is a violent crime about domination and aggression, not necessarily about s.e.x.u.a.l gratification. Basically, the fact that women are physically weaker is why some men attack. Just being a woman is all it takes sometimes, no matter what you wear and what you do. Men are the root of the problem :) gtmash
When did I talk about Wild Wadi? I am talking about the swimming pool mentioned in earlier posts in this thread. Dubai Knight
K: You could claim that men are the root of the problem, however we have no control over that, its genetically built in and we have supressed it over the millenia as the human race evolves. The cavemen we used to be would simply bop their women over the head and then drag them home by the hair. This possibly still works in some societies, but I would like to think we are a little more civilised (none of my friends included!)
The situation here in Dubai is exacerbated by the imbalance between the male and female populations. Yes, there are literally millions of guys locked up in all male environments who, when they are let out, have nothing better to do than walk the streets as their salary level is so low. A pretty girl passing by is bound to attract attention from a group or an individual in this instance. Its magnified here by the social situation and means that ANY female is therefore an object of interest.
In the 'west' the genders mingle from an early age, whereas here the majority of ethnic groups here are segregated to varying degrees from an early age. Putting a large number of males together in a closed environment such as this, combined with an Alpha/Beta genotype...is a time bomb waiting to explode.
Add to this the tendency of some ladies here to forget they are in an Islamic environment and dressing either provocatively or inappropriately and its merely speeding up the ticking clock on the bomb.
The incidence of rape here is considerably lower than many places (per capita of population) and there is enormous degree of restraint taught by the Muslim faith. I wish it were the case with all religions, but it is not.
We may be to blame, but there is provocation...from time to time.
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Knight reviewer
Maybe because its a social taboo here and most of them if not all went un-reported. It will be a big blot to their family honor if a rape case is reported as the case they tend to keep silent on this. Statistics are ignored or not even up-dated, especially here.

All faith teaches respect towards their fellow men....its really about a person's respect towards others..... gtmash
You are absolutely correct. reviewer
Yes, there's a real correlation between society and how it treats its people male and female. When society itself looks upon their womenfolk with low regards and treated unfairly,to the point of being bias in every sense of the word; women are easy prey to abuse of all sort whether at home, work and with in the society. Not suprisingly this societies do tend to hide this treatment by regarding this things as social taboos, a double joepardy for their womenfolk. Medvezhonok
Yes, that swimming pool mentioned in the first post to is the one in Wild Wadi. I would know since I wrote it. kanelli Reviewer made excellent points. Respect and restraint are taught in all religions, not just Islam. These are also taught in non-religious families as well. Somehow, despite this teaching, there are some men who choose to exert their will over their fellow female human beings. The rape stats don't take into consideration all the factors, and rapes are definitely under-reported in many countries. I cringe at the thought of what happens in some countries where it is a taboo to talk about these things. There is certainly some molestation and rape going on because they know they can get away with it. Years ago I saw one documentary about a brother who raped his sister. The father and brother sawed her head off in an "honour killing". Apparently she didn't fight hard enough to fend her brother off and therefore welcomed his s.e.x.ual advances (what logic!). Her little sister had to step over her decapitated body in the morning. I can't remember where this was - think it was either Jordan or Syria. I have to admit that I worry about the future when I see current popular culture fixating on s.e.x so much, and encouraging the s.e.x.u.a.lization of younger and younger people. I don't really think it contributes to more rapes, but it definitely brings the focus on objectifying male and female bodies - only surface and superficial features of a human. There is a heck of a lot more that is important, like brains and contribution to society. Dubaidude007 I agree with the posters that people are becomng sex.ually aware at younger and younger ages these days due to the media and society and whatnot. As far as the problem of inappropriate behaviour goes, it is like many of you pointed out, excrabated because of the gender bias against women in this part of the world. Somehow, with everything else factored in, men see nothing wrong with subjecting women to unwanted sexual advances. This is not the case in societies that implament more equality of the genders as part of their social strata. debian If you don't want people to look then why are you showing reviewer
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Either you're cynical or what...... :roll: shafique
Dark Knight and Kanelli have put their fingers on the issue and I could not do better.
I do also agree with 'reviewer' that societies who treat women with little respect are more prone to abuse - but I suspect he was viewing 'liberal' societies of Europe and US as societies which afford women more respect than 'conservative' societies of the East.
I would say that Kanelli's worry about the trend of increasing s.e.xualisation in the 'liberal' countries is a testament to the low regard women are regarded - to be viewed as an object that can be used to sell cars or as an object whose objective is to provide pleasure to on-lookers is not treating women with respect.
It is a common misconception from non-Muslims and non-Occidentals [Edit - I really meant non-Oriental] that women are oppressed when there is segregation by gender and modest dress codes. At the extremes, perhaps, but by and large it is a reflection of the respect and honour that is given to the other gender and the protectiveness that society feels stable nuclear families deserve - celebrating the male and female forms within a loving marriage and not on the street or in casual relationships.
Just a different perspective I thought I'd share.
Cheers,
Shafique Dubai Knight Nicely put Shaf... Interestingly, Dubai Municipality have instigated a team tasked with visiting all the malls in Dubai and removing any images or window decoration that is deemed to be outside the moral and cultural mores of the UAE. In the mall by my office, there are some highly provocative images in poster form on the walls advertising a lingerie shop in the centre. The window display in that store not only shows the actual product on a mannequin, but has large images of a very s.e.x.y girl, obviously provided by the manufacturer in the US. Don't get me wrong, I am not averse to looking at a beautiful scantily clad girl and this might be acceptable in London or Paris, however I do feel it goes against the grain here in a Muslim environment. I expect these images to be removed in the very near future. 8) 8) 8) Knight kanelli I guess it could be viewed as a lack of respect, but the women themselves are happy party to it - buying up the skimpy clothes and falling into the images in the media. Of course a woman feels good if she is desired. My personal opinion is that I only want my husband to desire me. Many other women get an ego boost from attracting other men. It is their personal choice, but in my view having one's own husband's attention is most rewarding. Who cares about Joe Shmoe on the street. I have to say that I perceive that I am always respected (in North America and Europe), although I don't wear skimpy clothes, and would miss a mixed-gender environment. I wouldn't do well being kept away with only fellow women-folk, not after making friends with men and enjoying the differences men bring to a friendship. Dubai Knight Vive la difference! :lol: :lol: :lol: Knight gtmash
The funny part is the Dubai Motorshow was a great display of real-life skin. I was a bit "offended" by all the displayed women in a Muslim country, even though some would consider me a liberal. shafique My 11 year old daughter was in the school Christmas concert which featured a medley of song, music and dance. The seniors in her school did a number of dance routines and in one girls who looked around 13 to 15 (clearly not yet women, but post-puberty) were dressed in red silk pyjama bottoms and clingy white vests or t-shirts. They danced to 'all I want for Christmas is you' and kept striking s.e.xy poses. I took my in-laws with me and it just was cringeingly embarrassing for us - but the majority of other parents were clapping and enjoying the show. My in-laws (from Mauritius) were complimentary of the over-all production - but they did express surprise to see the show of flesh on display in the UAE (and to be honest I would have been surprised to see this in a school in the UK). Alas, it is a sign of the times. Cheers, Shafique Flying Dutchman We can all try to understand each other´s cultures and backgrounds, which is great! Still I believe there is a lot of hypocricy in Dubai going on concerning s.e.x. and women among other things. Just one example. A meet at WTC organized by locals was catered (and I mean only food and drinks) by scarcely dressed women (even according to westerns standards). Once outside they started complaining about how women dress on the street. This is just one example, I have many more...as everyone else here I am sure. I have real problems trying to understand this sheer hypocricy. And I encounter this kind of hypocricy here in Dubai more than anywhere else in the world... reviewer
Hypocrisy is really rife here, their self-righteousness on one hand yet with open hands indulges in debauchery. Its smack of arrogance. Dubai Knight
Its not so much 'arrogance' as 'face'. Its very common in Saudi Arabia that a man must appear to be piously Islamic in all ways in front of his peers, however will then travel outside the Kingdom and behave in ways that would instigate a custodial prison sentence in his own country.
"What happens in Vegas...stays in Vegas."
This is also quite common for the young ladies of Saudi also and I am afraid that repression of the normal human desires and weaknesses is to blame. If you make certain things 'forbidden fruit' then the desire to taste from that tree becomes an irresistable urge.
Its like having a big red button on the wall that says in bold letters "Do not press!"
Someone will.
Just to see what happens.
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Knight reviewer
Well, I agree with you totally, their "holy than thou" attitude is outright arrogance for me.

Mind you its the society that tolerates such behavior and religion itself has nothing to do with it, yet always been hijacked by certain people for their own self preservation. kanelli
Come on now, they look anyway, no matter what you wear. Hey, perhaps the men should have a bag or sheet draped over their heads all the time so that we women won't have to see them staring. :lol: shafique
Come on now - there is a world of difference between a nun in a habit and a lady in a mini skirt and boob tube, both would not be stared at.
And you ladies also know that hair style and make up can transform one's appearance and will radically change the attention one draws.
That said, I agree that dress is not the only factor - one can be all covered up and still draw attention - it is however an important factor in itself, all other things being equal, dressing modestly will draw less 'unwanted' attention.
Cheers,
Shafique reviewer
Come on now dressing modestly will not surely draw less attention, take the case of men in segregated societies though their womenfolk are all covered up they still draw attention and men do stares as if the women wears nothing. As pointed out earlier, its sheer hypocrisy of the men to blame the opposite sex for their uncalled stares and sexual overtures. ^ian^ Dressing modestly will definitely draw less attention than dressing with your tits hanging out. This works in all countries of the world. shafique
I'm not blaming women, I thought I was stating the obvious that dressing modestly will attract fewer unwelcome stares.
If you are right that a woman's appearance isn't important - then someone should tell the women not to bother with make up, hair dos etc :)
Cheers,
Shafique St.Lucifer I think everyone should stop wearing clothes.. n then people will get used to seeing naked bodies and realize.. eeww. 75% are not really that hot as they used to think.. shafique
Do you think anyone is any doubt what a naked female body looks like? Or are you advocating that everyone sees how 'un-normal' the bodies of models etc are?
:) reviewer
What I'm saying is dressing modestly will not stop men from staring as has been happening and will continue to happen espcecially in the gulf. Case in point, try walking inside a mall where local women are dress in burqa yet being stared at and even given sexual overtones by their local men. reviewer I'm not putting the blame to either the men or the women, I think society as a whole is to be blame. gtmash
You are now addressing a totally different issue. Local men showing interest in local girls is the first step towards a marriage proposal involving parents.
As Ian said, the first step to reducing stares is to cover up. Don't want attention? Don't dress up. White women will get stares no matter what they wear of course, but then, they can take steps to reduce what's exposed, assuming the stares bug them TOO much. Take it as a non-criminal aspect of Dubai, with high rents and Salik. Hardly any men take the step towards touching and making themselves a criminal.
The staring is certainly a huge annoyance, but the rules brought about due to whining women means I cannot take a walk on the beach with a camera any more, without being almost arrested. reviewer
Excuse me; men following women like pack of wolves, blurting profanities, showing unwanted attention, you called this first step towards a marriage proposal involving parents. Wake up mate.
What I said;if you really understood what you read, is dressing up or dressing modestly is not always a solution and even if it does; it does not necessarily apply to all societies.
Different societies need different solution and approach. gtmash
I get the feeling you roam the seediest parts of Dubai, outside bars or something. I've never seen local guys blatantly harrassing local women in my 25 years here. There is the occassional case in the papers, but it is not as rampant as you make it seem. Dubai Knight Its not guys harrassing local women, but local guys and others harrassing any women. OK mostly is just intensive staring, which is unacceptable in the western world and would normally invite an invitation to sample hospital food from the young lady in question's boyfriend or husband. A western woman on her own is open to more intrusive harrassment. I have a Polish architect friend who is particularly attractive and was working here on assignment. She got very arsey with me when I insisted I accompany her at night to visit Naif area and the souks. In the end, I let her go on her own. It took 10 minutes for the phone to ring and her to ask me to rescue her! She attracted a crowd of patans and labourers who would not let her pass and were making lewd suggestions as they thought she was a hooker working in the local hotel, even though she was dressed in trousers and a business suit. It makes not difference what a girl wears if she is attractive and in the wrong place at the wrong time. :evil: :evil: :evil: Knight kanelli Well, I notice that I don't get leered at much any more when I have the baby with me. Thankfully they are staring at the cute baby most of the time. There you go ladies, just bring a kid along and you'll get more respect. :lol: Dubai Knight
I am told I am a complete child sometimes by some people, so I am available for hire at a very resonable fee!
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Knight sage & onion
Thats the most original pick-up line that I have heard in a while :wink: St.Lucifer
hahha..but wouldnt it add fuel to fire.. u may attract more onlookers..

[picture clicked couple of days back.] reviewer
So what have you been doing for the last 25 yrs....stuck on your own closet.Try to take off of your sunglasses maybe you'll see much better, for you to see what life is all about and your apethetic attitude seems very real to me. One does not need to go to seedy places to see those kind of attitude, only need to be aware of what's happening around.
Do you think these men will harass women speaking in english or your mother tongue for you to understand whats going on... :roll: :roll: :roll: reviewer
You need more than your regular newspaper to know whats out and about in Dubai. :roll: :roll: :roll: Dubaidude007
Very, Very true! Dubai Knight
Unless its 7 Days...which I find particularly good for the bottom of my puppy's cage! Very absorbent...
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Knight gtmash
Wow, we live in a real hell. Seems you are really tight with the underground. As a local would say, why don't you just leave? kanelli St. Lucifer, that is a great pic of Knight :lol: Dubaidude007 Today's Gulf News has an article about the Bus service in Dubai and it mentions labourers making obscene gestures towards women. Dubai Knight
Damn paparazzi! Can't go anwhere these days even dressed as Darth Vader without someone jumping out at me!
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Knight reviewer
Is that the only thing you can get out of your stinking newspaper thats worth DK's puppy's arse, my oh my.....look who's talking from his hole on the ground....
Why don't you takeout your head out of the ground and look around maybe the the local are harassing you without you knowing it.....what a pity you are...........
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ^ian^
Please refrain from talking about my cat's arse. St.Lucifer you read it wrong ^ian^
Holy crapola... it did say Ian's cats arse at one point, but it must have been changed the instant I hit reply. St.Lucifer
oh yeah it wasnt DK's puppy.. nor was it Ian's cats arse.. it was Ian cat's arse.. reviewer
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Oi...Oi.....yes you're right Ian.... :lol: :lol: sorry to mention your cat it was supposed to be DK' puppy.......what can I can do you're name all over DF...... :lol: :lol: gtmash
Internet thug. U like hangin wid daa boyz at the Marina? Everyone's not out to harass you. Dubai Knight My pups poo don't stink! (actually it bloody does!) :shock: :shock: :shock: Knight reviewer
L :roll: :roll: Looks who's talking....dude..HE WHO TALKS VILE GETS VILE, GOT IT. rudeboy
lol hahha hahahha no mate if it was a paki it would have said Paki on his forehead :D
If it was an indian they would have this red button on their forehead :D. lucy dont get offended just kiDding around :D.
By the way did your wife or daugther or gf detect any curry smell in the air. That usually gives it away. So did they?
Maybe they had a corner shop around the swimming pool?
Or maybe it was the same paki who drove you around his taxi the whole day and thought he would go for a swim :D.
So which one was it?? rudeboy lol oh how thee u r quick to judge thee was a paki oh how quick thee. ok my view on this topic is that if you got it flaunt it yeh baby groooovy :D sorry yeh I can understand from the western point that hey they need to get a tan and thus sit in a pool in a bikini or whatever. Eastern point is there are certain rules you have to respect. Ok now on the beach there are special beaches for WOMEN only where they can sun bath or do whatever they like to do but in that certain area no MAN would be allowed thats y it is known as WOMEN beach only and thats y men dont stare at women there. Now in a mix beach you will get labourers staring at you and so will the other guys on the beach. same with the pool. you have pools designed for women and children only, and a pool for men only. But certain pools are mixed just like the beaches and obviously you are going to get some ppl staring at you. I ll be honest if theres a nice chicken getting fried on the beach or lying there on the chair obviously i ll look at her but i wont stare at her. And I am sure EVERY guy here on this forum does it. If you dont look at them I am guessing u r not a MAN :D. But the bottom line is you have areas designated for women only if you have a problem with ppl who stare I such u go to such designated areas. If you dont want to go I suggest you put up with it. By ignoring them or by staring back at them :D. Staring back at them usually works where the person looks away have tried and it works :D. And oh yeh If you dont like it here I suggest you find another pool, if it happens there I suggest you find another pool, if it still happens I suggest you buy a yatch, sail it out to the middle of the sea and get your wife, daugther, sister to sun bathe there, away from the eyes of the world. sorry away from the eyes of the Pakis and the Indians lol. And if you still find that ships have decided to crowd around your yatch just to have a little peek I suggest you can always pack your bag move to the next country on your list and sun bathe there. I suggest you go west because in the East the staring problem worsens. St.Lucifer I think there's a valid point.. since we are 1 in every 6 persons u meet in the world.. and add to that our never ceasing desire for white skin.. (thanks to the million porn movies with white stars) and lack of opportunities for many of them economically and educationally backward people to actually get to meet and understand people of other culture and values.. and the natural human tendency to look around and to stare at what attracts attention.. there are loads of Indians who stare as well among people of other nationalities.. To get an over all picture.. its a mixture of people from all races that stare.. its not just indians or pakistanis.. but I am really ashamed to admit/learn that some of us men(indians and pakistani's) have this very ridiculous mental state.. to grope/rape/ molest/look n talk suggestively to fellow humanbeings of opposite sex.. especially to those having white skin.. :| rudeboy thats because white skin is in demand and precious ;) but if it annoys you so much just dont do it next time or just find another "high class" pool where you wont find any cheap ppl staring at your gf/wife/daugther/nani etc. or better just move out of here if you dont like it. HP why can u not take bath inside your home ? or u can ask ur ladies to wear abay while swimming. I saw arab aunties swimming in abay at sea :P (it seemed as there is Buffalo in water). Dubai Knight
LMAO!!!!
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Knight rudeboy
oh now I get it. the pakis dont like looking at buffalos so they prefer looking at the young, wild and free deer :D. orik Hey Men,

What Do You Expect From Men Who Have Never Allowed To Look At Women Or Never Seen Women Or Saw Women Only With Clothes.
They Will Be Holy ? NO, They Will Be Hungry :o :o :o gezza Or maybe it was the same paki who drove you around his taxi the whole day and thought he would go for a swim :D.
So which one was it??
The Taxi driver. reviewer This thread nearing its 100th post.... :cry: gezza 100 posts.... GET IN!! reviewer
and Be stared at.... :lol: :lol: :lol: freza reviewer seems to think that his rather one-sided viewpoint is the only one that counts and those who don't share his particular viewpoint are somehow completely oblivious and wrong. I think common sense can not go wrong in this issue, as Ian said, if a woman has her boobs hanging out she will get stared at/harassed a lot more than if she is dressed modestly. There are exceptions like in anything but you can't ignore the obvious reasons why some men act like monkeys on the streets in the first place. Common sense does not really need that much explaining... reviewer
I have never said or insinuated that other people view are wrong and mine is right. What I said, modesty as solution doesnt apply to all societies, every society in this world have different set of norms. You're barking on the wrong tree.

Do you mean that covering oneself will prevent women from being stared at or even harass.Your views are way too subjective.

Common sense does entails that what is true in one part of this world does not or probably not true to other parts. reviewer
I have never said or insinuated that other people view are wrong and mine is right. What I said, modesty as solution doesnt apply to all societies, every society in this world have different set of norms. You're barking on the wrong tree.

Do you mean that covering oneself will prevent women from being stared at or even harass.Your views are way too subjective.

Common sense does entails that what is true in one part of this world does not or probably not true in other parts.



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