Snow
Do you think there will be a major outbreak of swine flu all around the world or not?
There are already more than 1000 people infected with it in Mexico, killed dozens there, and around 100 are infected in the US.
It can be easily spread from one person to another, and symptoms are similar to normal flu.
Anosh
Tests ongoing to determine how serious latest outbreak is.
gamercowboy
The CDC of the US has already stated that it is so widespread and is not possible to contain so this could be pretty bad. Seems like the biggest difference between this and Bird Flu is that this one is easily transferrable from person to person.
puppypup
This is scary. No crowds, no kissing/hugging, carry hand sanitizer, masks, and consume lots of vitamin C.
Sharp
Hmmm!!......... Seem's Scary to me tooo!!............
sage & onion
Oh come on, the other day it was sars
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Everyday it has to be a new panic
Snow
- sage & onion wrote:
Oh come on, the other day it was sars
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Everyday it has to be a new panic
Yes it's very possible that it could just be a new panic caused by the media.
gamercowboy
- sage & onion wrote:
Oh come on, the other day it was sars
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Everyday it has to be a new panic
SARS was pretty serious. The reason it didn't end up as bad as it could have was because proper measures were eventually taken. Even so, a few hundred people (not to mention millions of birds) died.
There's no need to panic just yet though. Even at the height of the bird flu scare, I didn't hesitate to fly to Southeast Asia.
Ruskie
I went to Mexico in March. Now I'm scared.
puppypup
- Ruskie wrote:
I went to Mexico in March. Now I'm scared.
I think that was too long ago unless you just came back yesterday.
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RobbyG
- Snow wrote:
- sage & onion wrote:
Oh come on, the other day it was sars
&flv=1&icid=rbox_ref_center.M
Everyday it has to be a new panic
Yes it's very possible that it could just be a new panic caused by the media.
Just like with SARS and with H5N1 Bird flu, the eventual results are dead people. I think a lot of infections together with dead people are, well to say the least, a reason to get some media attention and get some regulatory bells ringin'!!!
I wonder what castle tower you are being held in. My god, they say ignorance is bliss....
:wink:
kanelli
Definitely SARS was serious, and H5N1 and swine flu have the potential to be devastating if proper precautions and protocols aren't followed. Luckily because of SARS and H5N1 governments have good action plans. Still, all you need one day is the right mutation of the virus and it can spread faster than it can be controlled. A good reality check for humans who don't believe they could be subjected to a population controlling diseases like what happens to animals in the rest of the animal kingdom...
JBR_Resident
nah Swine pandemic is unlikely
lifegauge
why?
Snow
Only precautions they gave was to cover your nose and mouth while sneezing and coughing and to wash your hands regulary. And to also avoid public places if you have flu symptoms...Don't know how much effective these are.
RobbyG
- JBR_Resident wrote:
nah Swine pandemic is unlikely
Just read they are in alarmphase 3 now.
Public bars and restaurants in Mexico are being closed by authorities.
People walk the streets with mouth covers.
Hospitals are given the predicament: free of infection and can be used acordingly.
Experts think this must not be considered lightly since it could trigger a worldwide H5N1 (Swine Flu, not to be mistaken by H1N5 bird flu) pandemic.
Europe is still free of single cases, except for three contained French people. And one Brit I suppose it was.
gtmash
lol, piggies.
RobbyG
- gtmash wrote:
lol, piggies.
I guess the last time the bird flu broke out you said something in the trend of:
lol, chickens :lol: 8) :lol:
gtmash
- RobbyG wrote:
- gtmash wrote:
lol, piggies.
I guess the last time the bird flu broke out you said something in the trend of:
lol, chickens :lol: 8) :lol:
true
Snow
They're advising people sick with flu not to come to hospitals. That the doctors will come to their house and would treat them there.
Sharp
Agree with Snow!!.. we Must be Carefull!!........
kanelli
WHO now sets pandemic alert at phase 4.
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza/phase/en/index.html
portland
need to avoid eating pork products for the meantime, better to eat veggie for now
Snow
This article shows the difference between swine flu and SARS or avian flu. It says the disease would..."skip from city to city over an 18 to 24 month period"!!! Hope it's not true.
gamercowboy
- portland wrote:
need to avoid eating pork products for the meantime, better to eat veggie for now
You cannot get swine flu from eating pork.
http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/swineflu_you.htm
portland
- gamercowboy wrote:
- portland wrote:
need to avoid eating pork products for the meantime, better to eat veggie for now
You cannot get swine flu from eating pork.
http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/swineflu_you.htm
what if the pork you ate is infected? its better to be sure than sorry,
RobbyG
- portland wrote:
- gamercowboy wrote:
- portland wrote:
need to avoid eating pork products for the meantime, better to eat veggie for now
You cannot get swine flu from eating pork.
http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/swineflu_you.htm
what if the pork you ate is infected? its better to be sure than sorry,
A piece of meat can't get a cold, Porter!
Its the creature behind it that can get infected. Nottin' to worry about.
Just lock all doors, seal with tape, close the windows and dive in the cellar for 6 months and yuo'll be fine.
Make sure you buy food in advance :lol: :lol: :lol:
A drop of water can't kill you either....although :shock:
Speedhump
There's another REALLY bad animal infection scare coming, it looks like. Started in Netherlands I think, but it has spread and is spreading , and the UK is in hushup and denial mode about it. A guy in the UK has been investigating for some years, he doesn't sound like a crank either:
From Pat Gardiner in Felixstowe
The story I have been working on every day for the past NINE years is
finally breaking, mostly in the US, where I'm in touch now and getting
some support from journalists, scientists and lawyers working in the
same area.
To put it simply, I'm exposing the source of the superbugs plaguing
our hospitals. Funny thing life, I never expected to do anything so
important or unexpected.
You gave me a crucial helping hand a couple of times, so this is
a tip that the story will break. It has big implications obviously
for insurance but also aviation and the cruise business as you can
see. The Class Action Lawyers are gathering across the pond (means the USA).
Put "st398" into google
You can find the most up-to-date stuff from me on
/
Speedhump
by the way, when he said 'You gave me a crucial helping hand a couple of times', that wasn't addressed to me.
portland
- RobbyG wrote:
- portland wrote:
- gamercowboy wrote:
- portland wrote:
need to avoid eating pork products for the meantime, better to eat veggie for now
You cannot get swine flu from eating pork.
http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/swineflu_you.htm
what if the pork you ate is infected? its better to be sure than sorry,
A piece of meat can't get a cold, Porter!
Its the creature behind it that can get infected. Nottin' to worry about.
Just lock all doors, seal with tape, close the windows and dive in the cellar for 6 months and yuo'll be fine.
Make sure you buy food in advance :lol: :lol: :lol:
A drop of water can't kill you either....although :shock:
:shock: anything can be possible...hehehe
kanelli
So far they haven't traced the flu back to pigs yet - it seems to be human to human transmission. You can't get the flu virus by eating pork.
RobbyG
- Speedhump wrote:
by the way, when he said 'You gave me a crucial helping hand a couple of times', that wasn't addressed to me.
Sure Speedhump, sure.
I have you on my conspiracy list now. High-value target.
Lock and load men. :lol: 8) :lol:
Speedhump
- RobbyG wrote:
- Speedhump wrote:
by the way, when he said 'You gave me a crucial helping hand a couple of times', that wasn't addressed to me.
Sure Speedhump, sure.
I have you on my conspiracy list now. High-value target.
Lock and load men. :lol: 8) :lol:
OK you got me, I'm one of the anti-pork terrorists....I plug sticks of dynamite up pigs' rear ends and run...now you know my leanings ;)
RobbyG
- Speedhump wrote:
- RobbyG wrote:
- Speedhump wrote:
by the way, when he said 'You gave me a crucial helping hand a couple of times', that wasn't addressed to me.
Sure Speedhump, sure.
I have you on my conspiracy list now. High-value target.
Lock and load men. :lol: 8) :lol:
OK you got me, I'm one of the anti-pork terrorists....I plug sticks of dynamite up pigs' rear ends and run...now you know my leanings ;)
Here he is men!! Eliminate!! :wink:
If he touches ground in Holland, give him a steeck up his ass back to England. That will teach him not to mess with our soil and piggies.
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Speedhump
:D I like that pic, once I could see it all :D
Speedhump
28Apr2009/629 am EDT/1029 GMT
Here is a snapshot of the current swine flu situation. The World Health
Organization puts the threat level at Phase 4 on a scale of 1-6,
indicating a "significant increase in risk of a pandemic."
--MEXICO: Epicenter of the current outbreak and only nation with confirmed
swine flu deaths (20). Another 132 suspected deaths and 1614 suspected
infections
--NATIONS WITH CONFIRMED INFECTIONS: Britain 2, Canada 6 (+10-12 suspected),
Israel 1 (+ 1 suspected), New Zealand 3 (+63 suspected), Spain 1 (+26
suspected), United States 44
--NATIONS WITH SUSPECTED INFECTIONS: Australia 70, Chile 8, China several,
Colombia 9, Denmark 5, France 1, Hong Kong 4, Ireland 3, Singapore 2, South
Korea 1, Sweden 5, Switzerland 5
--NATIONS WITH PARTIAL OR TOTAL BANS ON PORK IMPORTS: China, Indonesia,
Lebanon, Russia, Thailand, Ukraine
--NAME: Swine flu (which is different from a disease contracted only by pigs
known as swine fever). Because pork is banned under Jewish law, Israel is
calling it "Mexican flu." J
The World Organization for Animal Health says the virus is a mix of avian,
swine and human viruses and has not been isolated in animals yet.
It recommends "North American influenza".
puppypup
@Robby That photo is too big.
@Speedie Humpie Did Israel really say it was calling it "Mexican flu" because pork is banned? If so, that's so stupid. Is it because they'd be "consuming" a delicious flu perhaps for the last time? :roll: Is Miss Piggy banned in Israel? :?
Speedhump
Yes they did, that is from Platts new agency, an inimpeachable source.
It just shows you the lunacy that is religion.
Robby your picture of 'me' is screwing with the thread... arghh :D
portland
nice pic of ongbak :D
RobbyG
- Speedhump wrote:
Yes they did, that is from Platts new agency, an inimpeachable source.
It just shows you the lunacy that is religion.
Robby your picture of 'me' is screwing with the thread... arghh :D
Done ;)
canuckbid
Hello everyone. The last report I had, it is one number below global pandemic. Some one on another form figured they were packing the flu south across the USA border into Mexico. Who knows. I bet they do ship alot of animals there to use cheap Mexican labour at the meat packing companies. The bug is spreading fast. I heard there is no danger to eat pork, but you should cook it throughly. Seems like the bug can show up almost anywhere now.
Speedhump
Please tell me why would the US wants to 'pack' a virus across the Mexican border, considering the vast number of people that cross it both ways every day?
kanelli
Mass farming that creates overpopulation of animals in terrible conditions is always the perfect breeding ground for disease. As well, the regular administration of antibiotics etc. to try to keep the animals healthy can contribute to superbugs that are very difficult to treat. (Although antibiotics have nothing to do with flu viruses as everyone should already know.)
Speedhump
Yes it's over administration of antibiotics to pigs in Europe that is being blamed for the hospital superbugs in the UK (I'm reading some opinion that it's because the UK didn't do enough to test imported animals, mainly as commercial vets were seemingly in the pocket of big business), and these superbugs are now even being transmitted outside of hospitals.
If pigs are so clean why the need for so much antibiotics? I never heard of this with sheep or cattle.
kanelli
I think all mass farmed animals are given antibiotic injections or it is put in their feed. I need to check on this, may be different laws in Europe vs North America etc.
RobbyG
- kanelli wrote:
I think all mass farmed animals are given antibiotic injections or it is put in their feed. I need to check on this, may be different laws in Europe vs North America etc.
Food regulation in Western Europe is very strict. I believe it was more strict that the US.
The US allows hormones in animal food that gets them bigger and fatter cows and other cattle for mass production to supply that steak and burgers.
Europe checks a bit stricter on hormone supplements and will not be allowed if it speeds up growth and such. They bring a greater chance of disease and malgrowth. I don't know the exact facts, but this is what I read a few years back.
Antibiotics are used for every cattle in large populations. I think its like a Pest control method. Safety of the livestock.
puppypup
I know the cure for the swine flu. Just say to yourself "I don't have time to get sick. I have other things to do." The swine flu will then move on to a scared victim.
Whenever I feel a cold coming, I tell it to go away. At the worst, I've been sick for 24 hours. *knocks on wood*
Chocoholic
mmmm there's someone in our office, who keeps coughing and coughing, it's been getting progressively worse the last few weeks. They refuse to go to the doctors. Not cool!
kanelli
A cough lasting for weeks? Why won't he/she see a doctor?