Corcovado
grrrrr careful :cat:
Chocoholic
Hehehe, Arnie chill! It's OK for you to have a lil' puff, just not around me!
arniegang
psssssssssssssssssstt
i'm peeking - is it all clear for me to come back now?
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
tip toes away again shhhhhhhhhhhh
Corcovado
I know this topic might push some people's buttons...But I will go on anyway. As a nonsmoker I've been suffering from second hand smoking in malls- coffee shops and everywhere. I think smoking should be outdoor only where you can't cause cancer to people –babies around you …Guys smoking is not a private habit cos it affects others brutally... U want to give urself a heart attack or lungs cancer be my guest :evil: but please don't force it on us nonsmokers... Sorry if my post is harsh but I am fed up. SMOKING KILLS :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
:idea: Ban smoking in public places and indoors :idea:
G
Completely agree with you. A filthy habit - happy for people to smoke as it's their choice and they are free to do so, but forcing their second-hand smoke on others is selfish and should be banned!
Interesting that here in the UK the Government are currently considering banning the sale of packs of 10, forcing people to buy packs of 20, which they believe could dissuade youngsters from starting out. It's already been done in several countries including Ireland and has been a success
arniegang
OMG
Not the anti smoking lobby pleaseeeeeeeee- just wait till Choc's reads this, then you will start her off too. And in the current climate with we had all better watch out eeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Now you have started it off, this will end up in FC - guaranteed
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Chocoholic
Oh Arnie, why so harsh? I have to agree. Smokers are entitled to smoke, but sadly many have quite a selfish attitude and they say it's their freedom to smoke, fine and fair enough, but it becomes unacceptable when that goes over someone elses freedom to breathe fresh smoke free air. Afterall smoke knows no boundaries, non-smoking areas in places are always the smallest and in the crappiest places, why should non-smokers be penalised for wanting to safeguard their health.
People who smoke around children are diplorable, childrens lungs are very fragile and it can cause all manner of problems.
I went out clubbing last Thursday and my god I could barely see through the smokey haze and my lungs hurt for days afterwards, not to mention the hacking cough I had - awful.
At least some places are getting the right idea, Central Perk in Um Sequimm is completely non-smoking on the inside and smoking is allowed outside, which is great as it encourages families.
Also have you noticed how if you're booking group meals out the non-smokers are always forced to compromise and accomodate the smokers? What they can't go a couple of hours with a drag?
Seriously the number of smoking related deaths is horrific every single year. Have you ever seen what the lung of a dead smoker looks like? I have! You can literally pick it up and squeeze out the tar! It's foul!
arniegang
OMG Chocs is here
run awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy me is hiding
:P :P
Corcovado
- arniegang wrote:
OMG
Not the anti smoking lobby pleaseeeeeeeee- just wait till Choc's reads this, then you will start her off too. And in the current climate with we had all better watch out eeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Now you have started it off, this will end up in FC - guaranteed
:lol: :lol: :lol:
someone is scared from us girls "lobbying" together :wink: Females against Smokers :twisted: wohooooooooooo :lol: :lol: :lol:
G
Hey hang on a minute - I'm a male! :wink:
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Corcovado
- G wrote:
Hey hang on a minute - I'm a male! :wink:
:oops: ooops sorry .... sure u are i was talking about me and chocoholik
{u believe me right? } :wink: :wink:
tinkerbella
- Corcovado wrote:
I know this topic might push some people's buttons...But I will go on anyway. As a nonsmoker I've been suffering from second hand smoking in malls- coffee shops and everywhere. I think smoking should be outdoor only where you can't cause cancer to people –babies around you …Guys smoking is not a private habit cos it affects others brutally... U want to give urself a heart attack or lungs cancer be my guest :evil: but please don't force it on us nonsmokers... Sorry if my post is harsh but I am fed up. SMOKING KILLS :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
:idea: Ban smoking in public places and indoors :idea:
I totally agree with you! its not fair on us non-smokers...i mean some of us are asthmatic...oh well i guess thats life cant have everything we want
Liban
- kanelli wrote:
I'm with the gals, and Mr. G - smoking is a nasty habit. If people want to smoke they should do it outside or in their own homes - spare the rest of us from second-hand smoke indoors please!
You must have had a blast then at the Shisha joint... :wink:
Dubai Knight
(Raising a clenched fist in the air...) RIGHTS FOR SMOKERS!!
Yeah, we choose to kill ourselves this way cos it's actually quite a nice way to go...but we also don't mind going outside to have a fag from time to time. Its breaks the monotony of the day AND we get to see what the weather is like.
Most of the cafes have outside seating areas where we lepers can congregate and swap cigarette cards and generally be more interesting social animals... rather than hiding behind the bike sheds.
8)
Knight
arniegang
Power to the smokers
(wolfie smith circa 1980)
kanelli
I'm with the gals, and Mr. G - smoking is a nasty habit. If people want to smoke they should do it outside or in their own homes - spare the rest of us from second-hand smoke indoors please!
arniegang
Do you wanna be my friend or wot K !!!!? :wink:
:lol:
kanelli
Sorry Arnie, you and Mrs. Arnie are fab, but it won't change my mind about smoking indoors :)
Shisha is outdoors, and shisha smells good :) I'm not saying that I'm perfect - I like to smoke a cigar or shisha once or twice a year. The thing is, it is outdoors when I do it.
Liban
- kanelli wrote:
I'm not saying that I'm perfectquote]
:shock:
Kanelli is not perfect??? :shock:
OMG!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
I am saving this... :lol:
kanelli
Only you claim to be perfect Liban. When you admit that you aren't I'll be sure to save that post too. :lol:
GAB
Smoking is a disgusting and filthy habit-I agree. It should be banned in public places-absolutely. It is an infringement upon other people's rights. Hopefully the law will change here.
arniegang
Gabs............................
shut up
:lol: :lol:
Chocoholic
Oi Arnie - you shut up! hehehehe! Go sit inside a smoke filled tent and keep your habit away from infringing on the fresh air.
arniegang
I knew you would start again Chocs
geezzzzzz you non smokers :P :P
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Chocoholic
Hey, just keeping up the fight for the right to beathe fresh air - that's all.
It's one thing I really hate about Dubai, our office was voted non-smkong two years ago, as there are only 2 smokers, so they're in a minority, but morons from our upstairs offices come down and puff away, ggrrrr I tell them in no uncertain terms it's not allowed in our office. I can't go upstairs anymore, 30 seconds in the bigwigs office and you stink like a dirty ashtray - it's foul!
Liban
SMOKING RULZ!!!! :lol:
GAB
Yeah, I smoke and I'll smoke where I am allowed to smoke. It should be banned though inside buildings.
Dubai Knight
Dubai is about the only place where most places are smoking places...so I smoke in the places that place smoking as a right...which is just about every place!
I am away to place a cigarette in the place I use to smoke it and pace up and down outside the workplace...smoking!
Sorted!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Knight
Chocoholic
BBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Smoking smells! :pukeright:
Dubai Knight
- Chocoholic wrote:
BBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Smoking smells! :pukeright:
So does Oud...but they haven't banned the use of that in enclosed spaces or elevators...
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Knight
Chocoholic
True! But Oud does not contribute to noxious gases such as Carbon Monoxide and toxins which are forced upon others who do not wish to breathe them in.
Tell you what, go buy a packed of Bio-Tips, little plastic filters that you inhale your cigarette through then look at the amount of tar oozing out the bottom of it when you've finished your precious fag - disgusting!
kanelli
If we want to get technical, we could say that no one should wear perfume or scented products in public in case someone else is allergic. However, there are so few who are seriously allergic compared to the large number of people who are disgusted/allergic to cigarette smoke.
Liban
- Dubai Knight wrote:
So does Oud...but they haven't banned the use of that in enclosed spaces or elevators...
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Knight
You think Bakhour (Oud) smells???? You've got nasal problems my friend.... :P
Oud smells so guuuuuuuuuud... :)
Dubai Knight
- Chocoholic wrote:
True! But Oud does not contribute to noxious gases such as Carbon Monoxide and toxins which are forced upon others who do not wish to breathe them in.
Tell you what, go buy a packed of Bio-Tips, little plastic filters that you inhale your cigarette through then look at the amount of tar oozing out the bottom of it when you've finished your precious fag - disgusting!
Mmmmm! Yummy! Just like Marmite!
There are other toxins released into the atmosphere that have far more serious implications than cigarette smoke. Every time you fill your car with 'Green and good for the environment lead free petrol' the levels of toluene, an additive put into the octane reduced fuel to boost back the burn efficiency, kicked out into the atmosphere, are far worse than the output of 10,000 cigarettes. Carbon Monoxide in added multiples of millions in comparison and Carbon Dioxide...a gas that every tree hugger on the planet is blaming for global warming or the next ice age...or something, but just happens to be the one thing that every tree needs... more than a hugger!
I feel we smokers are contributing much to the carbon cycle and overall greenery of the planet.
Some of us can even contribute to the green unicycle of the planet...mind you I keep falling off and its getting quite painful!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Knight
Chocoholic
Fine DK, but do it out of the way of us non-smokers. Seriously cigarette smoke gives me terrible headaches, my lungs and throat go all scratchy, it's awful, it's really horrid to be around lots of smokers for me. As Kanelli says many people are allergic to cigarettes. And as I've always said people are free to smoke, but that freedom ends where it becomes a nuisance to someone else.
Liban, Oud is disgusting, it smells awful! I guess it's an aquired taste, like Sea Urchin!
GAB
- Liban wrote:
- Dubai Knight wrote:
So does Oud...but they haven't banned the use of that in enclosed spaces or elevators...
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Knight
You think Bakhour (Oud) smells???? You've got nasal problems my friend.... :P
Oud smells so guuuuuuuuuud... :)
I love oud and the perfumes/oils etc. Yeah, granted some are strong but I have a beautiful one that smells like vanilla-it smells yummy. The thingabout the oils is you don't wear much and you have to leave it for a while to truly appreciate the smell. Anyway-I love burning oud, incense and essential oils.
GAB
- Liban wrote:
- Dubai Knight wrote:
So does Oud...but they haven't banned the use of that in enclosed spaces or elevators...
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Knight
You think Bakhour (Oud) smells???? You've got nasal problems my friend.... :P
Oud smells so guuuuuuuuuud... :)
I love oud and the perfumes/oils etc. Yeah, granted some are strong but I have a beautiful one that smells like vanilla-it smells yummy. The thingabout the oils is you don't wear much and you have to leave it for a while to truly appreciate the smell. Anyway-I love burning oud, incense and essential oils.
kanelli
- GAB wrote:
- Liban wrote:
- Dubai Knight wrote:
So does Oud...but they haven't banned the use of that in enclosed spaces or elevators...
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Knight
You think Bakhour (Oud) smells???? You've got nasal problems my friend.... :P
Oud smells so guuuuuuuuuud... :)
I love oud and the perfumes/oils etc. Yeah, granted some are strong but I have a beautiful one that smells like vanilla-it smells yummy. The thingabout the oils is you don't wear much and you have to leave it for a while to truly appreciate the smell. Anyway-I love burning oud, incense and essential oils.
Me too GABs.
GAB
It is fantastic! Each oud shop is different and the bottles are incredible and the packaging/boxes are too. The one in Mercato upstairs has the most gorgeous little purse sized solid perfume holders-great gift for my mother-in-law and grandmother etc.
Chocoholic
It may be of interest for you Oud lovers to note that some of it is made from a certain tree which is one the verge of being wiped out. Think about that next time you light up a batch.
kanelli
What is best is that these perfumes are made from real essential oils - no petrochemical based scents and constituents. I know that some people would still be allergic to perfume, but the natural scents seem to irriate far fewer people than the fake chemical perfumes.
Liban
- Chocoholic wrote:
It may be of interest for you Oud lovers to note that some of it is made from a certain tree which is one the verge of being wiped out. Think about that next time you light up a batch.
Show me the source of this information.
GAB
My understanding is that it comes from many different types of tree and the little bark-like chips that you burn are caused by in some way producing an infection or irritant under the bark and then this sappy stuff is produced which looks like little bark chips. Anyway there may have been some information lost in my interpretation as my discussion was with someone for whom English was their second language and being ignorant I know no Arabic-sounded similar to a rubber plantation actually. I note that you said some and I have no doubt you are correct but perfumes I have contain magnolia (flower on a tree that is prolific and has many species) and even lavender ( also many types and grows like a frikkin weed and is a bush). I'd be more worried about furniture you buy here-a) they say it is kiln dried (guarantee if you stick on a dehumidifier or air con in your home you'll hear it crack and b) it is from plantation timber -both make me pmsl especially when they carry no such certification and knowing the countries of origin :roll: pleez!! pmsl.
Chocoholic
Liban, I said SOME not all. And from a very good friend of mind who does work with many different environmental agencies.
'Agarwood oil, also known as Oud, Aloeswood or Eagleswood, is an extremely rare and precious oil that originates in North Eastern India, Bhutan and parts of South East Asia, especially Vietnam and Cambodia. Agarwood has a very long history of use as a medicine, incense and as an aromatic oil. In the Bible it is known as aloes or aloeswood. There are several species of Agarwood, the most important species are: Aquilaria agollocha, A. malaccensis and A. crassna. Aquilaria malaccensis is endangered and protected worldwide under the CITES convention and A. crassna is listed as endangered by the Vietnamese government. '
From a website which actually sells these products!
You can also visit: http://forestpathology.coafes.umn.edu/agarwood.htm
Which is a website about using sustainable foresty resources instead of just hacking down trees around the world until there aren't any left.
GAB
I guess the problem here is that in a country that is truly developing and its inhabitants are poverty striken that earning a living outweighs conservation. I know in VN deforestation occurs to make way for crops that produce coffee. Something to consider when drinking coffee I guess.
I didn't think the trees actually died in the process-I assumed they were more or less tapped for the resin/bark chip things produced.