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siraj_ud_daula What do you think about sex outside marriage?what the americans are preaching is having sex with a girl and when the physical pleasure is gone then casting her out that is called love.Thus the americans are exporting their prostitute culture al over the world under the cloke of secularism and modernism.In the name of freedom of women and women rights they have turned their women into concubines and social butterflies.Sex outside marriage is gross and cheap.A females body is like a temple.dont breach the sanctity of the temple.if you want to enter the temple there is a key for it.And it is called marriage.
bedro Oh Please!! Dubai Knight Yeah, right, here in the world of the Hareem? :shock: :shock: :shock: Knight kanelli Ha! What a double standard. In Islamic cultures people have interesting ways of fulfilling their s.e.x.u.a.l desires, like ho.mo.s.e.x.u.al encounters, and some women have an.al. s.e.x so that they still appear to be virgins when they do get married. Prostitution thrives in this part of the world! How many guys start dating women outside of their culture so that they can have s.e.x and then tell themselves it was a temporary weakness that they should forgive themselves for, after all, they will marry a woman from their culture in the end and the family doesn't need to know about it. A man being able to have multiple wives allows him more s.e.x.u.a.l freedom than men in monogamous marriages. S.e.x.u.a.l piety (esp on the part of males) is only an illusion in this part of the world. There is a population of conservative people who save s.e.x for marriage or committed relationships, but those people can be found all over the world, not exclusively in Islamic cultures. Chocoholic Siraj, What complete and utter BS quite frankly. It seems you wish to speak for all men and women. Wake up! Clearly you know absolutely nothing on the topic and are completely hypocritical/ Hmmm I seem to remember hearing the phrase 'Boys and other women are for fun, wives are for babies' alot here in the ME. Go away you troll and come back when you have something decent to talk about! Chocoholic Siraj, What complete and utter BS quite frankly. It seems you wish to speak for all men and women. Wake up! Clearly you know absolutely nothing on the topic and are completely hypocritical/ Hmmm I seem to remember hearing the phrase 'Boys and other women are for fun, wives are for babies' alot here in the ME. Go away you troll and come back when you have something decent to talk about! maximusprime
Waiting for marriage is stupid. bedro
[color=brown] A lame denial of se.xual freedom. An integral part of the culture of many.[/color]

[color=brown]Another lame reply that falls on the same mistake of looking down upon the other.[/color] ArchitectRoel
Well said barbarella are we talking about loving someone outside of marriage or sex outside of marriage two totally different discussions and sex outside of marriage has existed for quite sometime without the americans waving that flag

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Hmmmm......lame and hypocritical post.... :roll: nosoup4u No offense but what a Dumbass! Why do people blame culture and religion? We're given a brain to think before we act. Unfortunately, we have people like Siraj to come along and start a war over nothing. Sad Sad World! project3030 Listen guys, Regardless of which part of the world you hail from, one thing is common for sure. This world in a nutshell is all about fulfilling our materialistic, ego, sexual desires and ambitions. Nothing more. To the chap who is complaining that America is exporting their prostitute culture abroad has no clue what he's talking about. I will repeat, no clue whatsoever. I was raised in a very strict and conservative muslim household. One day, I stopped fasting, namaz (praying) because I said to myself you know what ? im not having any fun. So now aside after pursuing a formal education. I also pursue beautiful hookers, marijuana, and alcohol. I can't get enough of sex...........it feels so damn good. Even if it's from a prostitute and believe me some are so horny and nice, literally you have trouble walking after an intense love making session! Really, at some point you have to let go and have fun. You only live once and only once. Remember that. If you don't believe me. Smoke some pot and have sex.............trust me you won't stop and will be on your knees begging for more PLUS.............SINFUL S E X FEELS SO DAMN GOOD..............WOW puppypup The US is quite a conservative country. The Puritans came here for goodness sake. We're shocked when a woman breast-feeds in public. A Palestinian guy I knew said he thought it would be a piece of cake getting a woman into bed when he first came to the US. He didn't expect to have to work at it. :lol: :P coleenvin I will not blame any country or religion coz its human being who have desires for various things & they only exploit women. Being a women i see this thing every where i really appreciate your feelings about women that they should not be exploited coz we the women who makes the country. ArchitectRoel FORBIDDEN LOVE... oohhh! feels so goood!!! sniperfx Love is a Gift don't combined it with sex passion just for fun.. Love is hurt some times , but that is the art of love. Just follow the right procedure of faith and your life will be great. loly LOVE IS NATURAL FREAK ! HOW COME U MARRY SOMEONE U DONT LOVE OR UR NOT SURE UR GOIN TO GET ALONG WITH HER !!!!!!!! Sandy101
from what u have written above..first of all u are totally against the americans thats for sure..and secondally u cant blame the americans for prostitues and u have no right to blame their culture..u act like there are no prostitues here in Dubai..well to be honest its full of whores over here..u just gotta know where to look..so do ur research next time before you come out pointing fingers..
Speedhump Hey, where did the troll go?? I think you all crushed him. :naka: Mahmoud04 I think when it comes to marriages responsibility becomes in first place, and of course LOVE is one of these responsibilities, but not the only. so u can't build marriage based on only love, or even love and money, I think thats why we hear about single parents these days, feel sorry for women actually :D, boz they pick the guy they love and later on the guy just hit and run ;P. M. Speedhump Also, once you are married, can you still LOVE your husband/wife and children, care for them, support them, and still think you have love to give (even s.e.x) outside of marriage? Are people capable of loving more than one person? The answer to the above questions is of course YES for many people. The question should really be: 'don't you think that the hurt that your loved ones would feel if they found out outweights your personal needs?' To my mind, that's the only morality here. If the question is 'sex BEFORE marriage' then I say 90 percent of the world says yes (even if their laws or religion do not). dubai1970
I failed to understand the following statements made by you under the concept of "Love". Please explain in detail.
1. what the americans are preaching is having love with a girl and when the physical pleasure is gone then casting her out that is called love
2. love outside marriage is gross and cheap
3. A females body is like a temple
I think when you talk about Love, you are actually confused what Love really is? and the talk of "females body... " really showed me how shallow you are??? Please dont abuse love and talk about it such a raw manner.
To me "Love" is the most beautiful thing that exists in the Universe, and people who really fall in love knows it for a fact and it can happen to any one at any point in time of life.
Cheers prittymissy781 whine all you like....blame whomever you choose to........humans wont stop having s....e....x....so its just as well....i agreee with coleenvin....exploitation of women is horrible and simply unacceptable portland simply because humans are maniacs....WAHAHAHAHA daisy
I totally find nothing wrong at all about love outside marriage.....
I think you have to re read the Quran.....
As I am a muslim and I have a strong faith, and ppl like you just represent wht kind of religion and race....
Grow up man....If someone dumped you because you are married or she is....dont take it out by blaming any culture, nation or country.
This is not a way to be human....unless you choose not to be one..... :violent3: james111 even if i am from Europe but i totally disagree with a a women going out of marriage and i think its really nice to meet a women who respect herself.i will really apreciate a women like that alot. Speedhump
Hi. Did you think that post through properly before hitting submit? You said that you disagree with women 'going' outside marriage. Are you saying that you are happy for men to 'go' outside marriage? kanelli speedhump, that tends to be the normal attitude with some men. Men can sow their wild oats while women must remain virgins. Why? Because the men who are interested in settling down and marrying don't want their se.x.u.al prowess compared to anyone else, be showed up in bed by the woman, or they just have a warped idea that she is unclean because others have been "there" - despite the fact that he's been in "there" with others too! Speedhump
Yes 'some' men, I know. I was just asking if he is one of them. He didn't answer, which maybe says enough :roll: Sharp Fine marrige is imporetent!...BUT..if a women force a guy to stay intouch without marrige n anything else!.. she want's to keep with you with out any Key!.. i think a relationship need's trust, love n understanding..... Scorpion King
Love outside marriage is an absolute crap.. :x ..yeah one can just about flirt.. :twisted: .have affairs :twisted: when single...like I do now... :evil: ..but after marriage....doesn't make sense...if there is no loyalty, faithfulness & commitment....no marriage can work.
And hey about the yanks :walk: ...forget 'em......most of 'em wouldn't even know who their parents are?????? :toothy10: portland well to speak off its a decision on part of the lady if she wants to have sex outside marriage or not. culture or religion has nothing to do with it because basically humans has carnal desires even way long before our ancestors. nehamalik Hello people... im new in here....i have a message for all pakistani/desi people who are living in dubai, because there are a boy in Dubai named Adel Malik who is a real player and have destroyed many many girls life in both Dubai and Amsterdam. He come from Amsterdam and is called Kamaran Malik but when he is in Dubai he lives under the name Adel Malik. Recently i have heard he is with a girl from Dubai who is Pakistani and called Yasmin. That man is quite mental as he is used to misuse girls and take/steal money from them and thereafter throw the girls like garbage. This boy did exactly the same with my sister, and the result was that she couldt take it anymore when she found out he was this type of boy and then she committed suicide last year 2008. The man is sick in his head and is just after misusing girls and taking money from them by making excuses. He is now living in Dubai but come from Amsterdam. He is involved in illegal work which means that he is smugling drugs to various countries. I have also informed the police in Amsterdam about it. bsr Irrespective of the country n creed, love outside of marriage is there every where. Speedhump But at least in the west you dont get gang raped, thrown acid over or stoned to death for practising it (of course only the women get that, they are the sinful ones, men are just weak, right?) :roll: harrySFRIEND :violent1: raidah is this thread still up an running? :lol: at 18, if you want to be the 1st one in a girl's life, thats cute at 25, it's pretty sad that your still so clueless, that only a teen virgin would make you feel secure about yourself at 30+, boy your either a pedofile or a pathetic double face sorry ass and of course you could be virgin, hence expecting the same from your woman :P back to the innitial topic, marriage is an institution made up by people. what makes a relation sacred is the loyalty and care, not a paper. Speedhump
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For the life of me, I have no idea what grown men see in the company of a teenage girl. Let's face it even in the sack she's going to be no good (yet). He must be a sad guy if he feels the need to be so much in control.
raidah
what do some highly educated men see in really stupid bimbos? ok, the looks. but I'm talking about being for years with these women, not just fck. :)
concept is the same. insecurity Speedhump
To be honest, mentally supercharged women can be ballbusters (guys too I imagine), the ones who can never relax and who are always trying to prove how clever they are. If you can find an intelligent partner who also is laid back and also knows when it's time to dumb down then you've got it made. :D
I don't want to be discussing dialectical materialism when I'm going down on my partner. But an intelligent woman is very sexy. :D
Yes, keeping a bimbo must be soul destroying unless you're the male equivalent yourself (plenty around). Surely you must end up hating/resenting them... Speedhump My daughter says: 'intelligent people can never truly be happy'. RobbyG
How old is your daughter SH? :D
;) RobbyG
Nah, insecurity is definately the case, but I think they like it 'tight' :lol:
Just think of it; a young tight one or a baby boomer that needs lots of stitching to get the 'tightness' back...
You guess whats 'cheaper' ;) puppypup I've indulged in the topic discussion, puppy style of course. raidah
have a friend, we used to sit down in the afternoon, talk until early morning, sleep for a few hours, than talk some more. after these sessions, it would take me at least a week to recover from him.
so yeah, irrespective of the gender, being around a genius on a mission 24/7 is too much, but getting the staring eyes of a goat when you say something is not what I'd wish for myself :lol:
ps: your daughter is a smart girl Misery Called Life
This convo brings to mind an acquaintance of my dad's. A millionaire, fabulously wealthy, nightclubs, hotels and chain of restaurants. He was in his late 30's. He inherited a huge chunk of his business empire. Anywaz a man like this married a girl who was still in university, she was bout 19. They are still married today 8 yrs on with a child. And this man was touted as one of the most eligible bachelors...
Likewise in university I know so many girls of my age group dating guys in their late 20's early 30's.
Realistically Raidah and SH I have to say your points are not that valid.
The charm of a woman is unexplainable. With a certain upbringing a girl of 18 can be quite alluring even to much older men. This is especially true of European women and out of experience I can definitely vouch for Pakistani women. Speedhump I disagree. Obviously it's a personal choice, but I am sure that teenage 'trophy wives' of any sort are an illumination of something lacking in an older man's character. He doesn't want good conversation or someone who can take the rough with the smooth (even millionaires have rough patches of life, I dont mean financially). He wants immaturity, and I think it's to feed off it, so try to get his own youth back by sucking hers out of her. Those things don't come at age 18 or 19 except but to a very few girls. And he wants to mould her, 'get them young'! I really think you have it wrong. We are talking generalities, of course, there are bound to be exceptions, but what about all the ones that end in disaster? :) Speedhump
18. And she likes older men :D Speedhump
All points agreed! ;) Misery Called Life
Agreed, most of the times teenage wives are nothing more than trophy wives, and such relationships are primarily lust driven.
Yet at the same time I've seen so many younger women enjoy compatible relationships with older men.
As to what about all those that end in disaster? From what I've seen ya there are breakups, but no disaster. Both parties are emotionally affected and they move on.
What you SH makes perfect sense, but I'm speaking out of personal experience, where I've seen so many of these crazy relationships actually work quite fine. It's got me wondering will It work the other way round? Older woman, Younger man?
Besides how much wiser and mature can a woman get? I think once she turn 21 her intelligence is at her prime. From then on it's a downward spiral :lol:
The demographic in Lebanon is such that really old men are attractive partners for much younger women. Speedhump I would put on your tin hat after the remark about post-21 year old women mate.. :D Lebanese. I hate to stereotype, but are Lebanese women well known for being gold diggers? I they are in the UAE, I think? I know a lovely one in Lebanon, very sweet girl, around 28 years old now, and stunning looking too. She has many failed relationships as she is always searching for Mr. Perfect, and all the guys she finds are good looking but very career oriented and won't give her the attention she demands! I love her (platonically) but I have to say she's a bit of a princess!:D Also in Lebanon aren't there too many women for men? I guess that's was what you are saying about the demographic, yes? Sorry, my mind is on suitcase packing and paying Etisalat, Dewa, etc. before I go on vacation in a few hours. better give up the DF addiction for now.... :D raidah young women prefer older men out of 2 reasons: money or because they are themselves much older than their biological age. fact is, it all comes down to the maturity of both. sometimes you see a 40 year old with a 20-22 year old. she looks and behaves a lot smarter and mature than her age and he doesn't try to hide his. I actually find those cuples very s.e.xy all the rest is just a joke Scorpion King
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On a lighter note...yeah a females body is like a temple...and every man requires a key(rather his key) to enter(her)[/color] :twisted: and it all depends on how the reader takes it.. :twisted: Misery Called Life
Yup that was tha insinuation. RobbyG
:lol: Perfect, ready for Robby
So when was that beer we agreed to take on together, SH? ;) Leda Ok. Here is the opinion from the "involved" side))) Maturity, experience, wisdom - the sum that makes a man attractive, not his looks (I'm the pretty part, he should be the smart one)))). Why would a woman waste her energy and health for some self-concerned little twat? Confidence, ability to value every day, every person in your life - things that matter alot. I never advise a male "to grow up" (I wouldn't bother: his brain is phisically bigger than mine :D ) - I just leave for a man: It's alot more exiting to spend a night in with someone, whom u do not even need to tell alot to be understood, than have a couple of hours of hardcore phone session of hysteria just because u didn't reply his message or was friendly to a shop assistant. One day I will be a happy mother of a little baby - im not going to bring up someone's 6ft tall son with lack of sel-confidence... Something like that :) P.s.: not the least frustrating is the part when the nessesity to ask a boy to "stop unscrewing my bo.bs" arises, especially when he is shure this is the only action on the only sensitive part of a woman's body that makes her exited :D Misery Called Life
Hah how convenient.....That's the logic of playboy playmates :lol:

Yea compatibility is key.
But girl u r scary. Every time you're with an attractive guy ur actually imagining what ur kids gonna be like?

:lol: Communicate my friend. That's the key.
But c'mon give us guys a break.It's equally frustrating when a girl expects the guy to do all the work in bed, while they just lay chillin, the poor guy is panting his lungs away. And at the end of it all they wanna talk! Leda
Haven't really got the logic of this one...
:D I do not want kids now. The main part was not about having kids, but about helping immature males to grow up, bringing them up, as many girls like to do hopingthe can change them one day. I just compared men to kids and myself to a mommy :D
:D Sweetheart, the last thing Ill do is lay down and wait, i do not even like it horisontal. I meant I do not really want to be one of his first steps in s.x life. I do not have a problem saying about what i like, i have a problem with teaching a boy how to do that. I myself would prefer to discover new things. If I can not get information from a man, not just in s.x but in general, i lose interest.
Something like that. RobbyG
:D Sounds familiar to me :D
Are you 18 yet? :lol: Misery Called Life
I got wat ur were sayin, Just Teasin Ya! :D

Wow making love with you must be a lot of pressure for ur man :lol: I guess guys can be a little sloppy at times, but this Dubai, you ain't gonna find James Bond here. I'm a guy and I know most guys here are all talk. When push comes to shove they chicken out. I would suggest you invest more time with ur lover, so hopefully over time he can improve. And trust me with such matters we guys learn fast! :D
I'm way less demanding. Just that the every few women I've been with have been quite a bore :wink: RobbyG
Than you have ALOT to learn my young miserable lifeform :D
Just follow Robby a bit to learn a thing or two :lol: Leda Robby, luckily I'm, let's say more than ten yrs older than that:D, I gave more information than I got, so at some point i flipped it over :roll: So I do not mind U assuming: if it's a good assumption - i'll be glad, if bad - I won't care. I just expressed my opinion not pointing fingers, and this is U who is getting personal. So here is one more reason why I prefer mature men: they analise a problem before making assumptions :roll: RobbyG
My oh my. You're are a serious one.
On this occassion I was not. Do you mind luv me teasing you a bit 8)
I'm not judgemental in my assumptions Leda. I'm just stabbin' abit.
Smile abit will ya :D Bit short on s@x perhaps? 8)
ps: I'm 28 too ;) Leda
He does not need to. He's the best. He's the one who spoiled me :D I know. Im a bore too. Only a PC can tolerate me :D RobbyG
Oy, something is growing there... :lol: Misery Called Life

Damn Girl someone's ripe for the picking :lol: Leda I'm not :P So U mean the riding crop isn't needed today? RobbyG
Are you kidding me! :lol:
This one is horny 24/7. 'My crop is standing up' :twisted: Leda You guys do not leave me an opportunity for a scene here :D : I have to express my b.tchy side but you only make me laugh. Thanx. RobbyG
Experience luv...all about experience :wink: jhbsnoopy For me, i still believe in sanctity of marriage and virginity should be the gift of a lady to his partner after the marriage. RobbyG
A nice thought, but outdated.
Nowadays a 'marriage' is merely a piece of paper. My love doesn't grow because of it and the insurance policy status of the 'marriage' doesn't mean much either nowadays, as woman are growing more mature and self confident aswell as self supportive because of the basic rights for eg. education.
Its getting harder for a man to find a nice lady, because he has to work for it. No demands anymore...we men have to suffer due to emancipation of the woman... 8)
Anyway, I prefer a bit of maintenance rather then a musky and dusty hole with hairs. :twisted:
No plans to marriage... does it still exist even today?
So passé :wink: Misery Called Life
:lol: :lol: Virginity should be the gift of the lady. Why not the man? Why can't it be a man's gift? Misery Called Life
I'm not surprised. For you getting married is going to a court and signing a paper.
For us it's a lavish celebration, Church, Choir, Family, Culture, Tradition and these days a pre nuptial agreement :D
There is significance in marriage. Sure there is!
Does your love grow because of marriage? Well ideally it should. It's coming together of two different people, for a lifetime of sharing. Marriage is not about loving someone on the day of marriage but about growing. That's the charm. Growing old together, sharing each others joys and pains. Essentially it's all about the journey two people share, sprinkled with tradition, culture and religion(and kids :evil:)
That my friend is marriage!
Having said that I only plan to get married at the age of 55-60 to a 21 year old model :lol: RobbyG
You cheat!!!..... we're not far apart though :lol:
Say MCL, did you know you just defended the marriágč institution and threw it away like no tomorrow :D
You sound like a hypocrite now :wink: Misery Called Life Why dude? Isn't love at 60 possible? And if I stay as red blooded as I am right now, even Viagra won't be required :lol: As much as I can understand and preach about the virtues of marriage, I doubt I'll ever really want to marry.....I need my space! Maybe someday the right lady will come along...... Misery Called Life Edit - Damn lag in server RobbyG
Like I said before...our thoughts are not far apart ;)
Feasability is another story :D accilies Why do you marry if you dont love? I would rather live alone then marry someone whom I dont love and not spoil someone elses life and would expect the same!



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