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Remember Herve? - "Escape from Dubai" - Update


Bora Bora Well for those who remember the poor tortured soul Herve who had to flee Dubai undercover, here's an update. Although no name is posted, only the initials H.J., I think from what he posted and this story one can assume they are very closely related. Gulf News Today. Court to sentence man in absentia for duping Dubai World of Dh14m By Bassam Za'za', Senior Reporter Published: June 10, 2009, 23:17 Dubai: A Frenchman has been charged with abusing his duty as a former executive of Dubai World (DW) and misappropriating Dh14 million worth of purchase orders, including two submarines. Records quoted an American DW financial manager alleging that the 55-year-old Frenchman, who managed a DW entity, confessed in writing that he allegedly misappropriated Dh14 million and promised to settle and pay Dh3 million before he fled the country. The Public Prosecution has referred the suspect, H.J., who records say is at large, to the Dubai Court of First Instance where he will be prosecuted for charges of abusing his public duties and unlawfully pocketing Dh14.122 million from one of DW's entities which he managed. Presiding Judge Fahmi Mounir will soon hand down a verdict in absentia against the French suspect. Meanwhile, DW's lawyer in civil right Salah Al Beloushi presented to the court a civil lawsuit in which they are claiming Dh14.122 million in compensation for the reportedly incurred damages. The financial manager testified that H.J. claimed that his US-based company can manufacture two submarines and sell them to DW when he met one of the latter's executives at an overseas fair. "We struck a deal with him and agreed to purchase a submarine for Dh1.1 million, the amount of which we paid around Dh921,000, and another submarine for Dh220,000, the amount of which we paid around Dh156,000. Later, DW brought him in here along with his company equipment from the US to assemble the submarines in Dubai. DW set up an entity and handed its management to the suspect. The partially-assembled submarines were brought here along with J.H.'s two private cars. Then he bought, at DW's expense, equipment worth around Dh742,000 to continue assembling the submarines which were never completed or put into action," claimed the American witness. The financial manager alleged, in his statement, that the suspect claimed to be buying Dh1.6 million worth of equipment for the entity but it was never delivered. "He paid the money to a company he owns in the US. DW never received the equipment and he did that transaction and processed the purchase orders to legalise what he did. "However, upon confronting him with DW's findings, J.H. confessed in writing and agreed to settle the dispute and pay Dh3 million& he left the country before paying anything," added the American. An Egyptian financial consultant testified that the defendant issued a number of purchase orders worth more than Dh11.87 million plus other orders. The verdict will be heard later this month.
rudeboy corrupt french bugger Misery Called Life Interesting, so what can the verdict do? Will they try to extradite him? If he is indeed guilty is there any way to recover the money? Or maybe Herve's book is all set for release, hence the court activity. I doubt we'll be hearing much more bout Herve in local papers. sage & onion
For once we are in agreement :lol: rudeboy
can we come to an agreement that there are some corrupt indian buggers like herve in dubai :D Speedhump Well spotted Bora, this is for sure must be same guy. For that sort of money one might expect if they can't get it then they might decide to extract some other form of compensation. I could see this getting very personal..... Scotsman where's ma spade? herve
Dont be naive soupe a l ognon, indeed I am TOTALLY innocent of those charges, which were predictable.
However it shows again that the justice system in Dubai is a farce, one of the only country in the world to put to trial somebody in abstentia, whom is not even entitled to a lawyer or legal representation.
Trials in absentia in the free world are exceedingly rare—most judges will never be involved with one. The procedure doesn't jibe with the notion of due process, especially the constitutional right of the accused to confront witnesses such as this american guy, James Miller, who testified against me without revealing his name, lest they create grounds for an appeal.
If a defendant takes off during the pretrial phase, however, he may be able to elude an in absentia conviction. In the US for instance the Supreme Court ruled that federal law "prohibits the trial in absentia of a defendant who is not present at the beginning of trial." As for a fugitive who has never been in custody, such as Osama Bin Laden, even the US would NOT permit his trial in absentia, regardless of the strength of the evidence.
Nor can globe-trotting criminals be tried in absentia by the International Criminal Court. Article 63 of the Rome Statute, which governs the ICC's operation, simply states, "The accused shall be present during the trial."
I explain in my book all the why's and how's Dubai court system uses coercion, false statements, threats to press bogus charges against innocents for the motive of seizing their monney and assets.
This trial will bring 100 times fold more exposure to my book, it is unfortunate that i cannot see the bitterness on your face when the truth of Dubai Frauds is exposed. Speedhump Oh my god we brought the woodlouse out of the woodpile again....listen dear runaway bride, stop trying to apply US law to another country. Whatever you believe you have rights to in your safe haven of the USA (where corporate rights are always subjugated to the rights of the individual, because of the US's almost frenzied belief that the individual should be protected against the State) it has no weight under the law of other nations, including the UAE. I see you have been talking to solicitors/attorneys and they have given you some legalese to spout. Well that's one side of the coin only, which is all we have ever had so far from your rants here, and I can't wait to hear the other side, which now appears to be surfacing....... Now we even have American businessmen saying that you defrauded the UAE. This will be very interesting. It's very certainly not the simple story of you being 'cheated' by UAE partners that you would like us to believe. ANYWAY, I FOR ONE HAVE NO INTENTION TO BUY YOUR CHEAP LITTLE BOOK TO HEAR AN OBVIOUSLY VERY PARTIAL AND ONE SIDED VERSION OF THIS AFFAIR. I WILL PREFER UNBIASED IMPARTIAL REPORTS WHICH OBVIOUSLY WILL ARISE AS THIS SORDID MATTER UNFOLDS. Speedhump
More anti-Indian stupidity from you, racist scum. You are so scared to tell us where you are from. Why?
Come on, be brave, little 'rasta rudeboy gangsta wannabe'....guns don't argue....order, order!
Any idea what I am talking about claat???
Be brave; where you from, skinny d*ck?

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Speedhump
S&O, you fell into the little trap that penishead set, the fact that hervé is French has no bearing on the fact that he seems to have defrauded the UAE. He could have been any nationality.
This little scumboy drags race into just about every post he makes.
More care, signore. ;) Speedhump And if Red Chief wants to defend scumboy's honour as he has before, I will jump all over his damned bones..... :violent3: Misery Called Life Thanks for the reply Herve. Offcourse there has to be two sides to this story. As of yet the court has not delivered a verdict, so lets wait and watch. As to a trial in absentia, well this is not murder or anything. Simple case of transferring large sums of money to banks in the US (according to papers). Those records can readily be made available I would presume and then through that alone a verdict can be arrived at. I don't see what the big deal is. Osama Bin Laden and the US is a totally different type of trial. Misappropriation of funds especially from the UAE should not be that difficult to prove considering that the state is officially against Herve. If Herve is indeed pronounced guilty by the courts than he be legally extradited from France ( if they can prove his guilt according to the law in France), as long as the UAE has any extradition agreement with them. There is a very interesting scenario that develops out of this though.Middle East countries are not members of the FATF. So will international banks cooperate with them and divulge details of Herve's transactions? Another question is why was Herve not sent to trial when he was here? rudeboy
listen humpty i aint a racist scum. all i said was they are corrupt buggers. anything wrong with that? are u mother threasa or something, fighting for the india ppl?
claat claat :S bloody 50 cent wannabee. Misery Called Life At this point I'm quite in awe of Herve. Any comparison with him should be a compliment! :D rudeboy
i honestly think hervve was responsible for the mumbhai bombings. he did admit that he was able to flee to india and oh well you know the rest.
bloody french ex-spy indian agent corrupt worker for DW. dont worry herve there are many like u in dubai. they come to dubai, earn millions and then run away. they then come on dubaiforum and say all the bad things about dubai. RobbyG
Wankers with your intellect should be getting their own subforum on DF. The Numbnuts forum.
Monkeyboy ;) rudeboy
battyboy Speedhump
I'm so pleased you proved you know nothing about the real rudeboys by referring to jumped up modern American anti-heros.
So, where you from? So scared to tell us little bumbaclat..... either front up or close that hole that spews so much crap.....and I am not talking about your arse.....
Enjoying my answers now? Come on, you need to tell us finally, or you lost any tiny amount of cred you thought you had by rubbing those two braincells of yours together....you love trashing Brits, Indians, Pinoys, now the French....
Waiting.....
Still waiting....
:lol:
herve
banks can cooperate anytime they want, no funds what so ever were embezzled, the only money i received was my salary, period, that is why i was never arrested, now that i am not there anymore and publishing a book that WILL tumble Dubai they panic, your hatred and biased opinion amuze me speedbump, you will buy my book but you wont say it , i can understand that, i am above you speedbump, innocent and free, you live under an autocratic regime and unhappy, and i thumbed my nose to the Emiratis when i got out of this place when i decided to . soon everyone will know how i did it.
Now if i was guilty, why the Bloomberg reporter who investigated my story for an article was detained in Dubai by the Amn Al Dawla for 10 hours, obviously he found out that the facts i reveal in my book are authentic but disturbing.
The American who testified is no businessman, his name is James Miller, he is the "go to guy" of Sultan Bin Sulayem, he is on the payroll of Dubai World and would testify anything he is asked to. Speedhump I can say with my hand on my heart I will never buy your book. Innocent and free, oh dear, you sound like Robin Hood. I'm unhappy? :D Yep, it seeps out of all my posts here LOL... Such corny writing, you are your own worst advertisement mate. I hope to God you have a ghost writer or no fool who buys your book will make it past page five :D Red Chief
Speedy, I want to protect YOU from driving today. It seems that 3 mugs were too many even for Friday’s night.
As soon as you asked my point of view (without pointing a gun at my head though) I will reply you. Your stalker’s activity is getting too boring for my intervention. herve
definition of "flee" webster dictionary: to run away from danger or evil, hence Dubai.
Thank you rudeboy for the credit. Sure the fact that I was able to "walk" the streets of Mumbai without being checked by authorities created some stir, however my knowledge of how to exit and enter a country without being detected does not make me a terrorist. It did not help Indian Police either to catch the terrorists who entered the country the same way i did months later to bomb the hotels. All the details are explained in my book.
But the fun part is how I got out of Dubai. Speedhump
It's rare that I goad you, it's usually the other way around. I don't really need to hear why you defended this person in the past, I know it was just kneejerk against me, and you had never read all his ignorant and racist posts previous to it. We can leave it at that if you want. rudeboy
man herve i dont care how u did it. how u got away from the evil dubai. i have seen ppl come to dubai and earn millions and live a perfect life. i have seen ppl who have lost everything in one day and they still live here trying to get on with their lives. yeh crap goes around in dubai. but you telling me that london, new york, mumbhai is perfect? I have also come across high officials working in government organisations who have set up their own private companies in order to process the purchase orders something like you did. yeh i do complain about these pppl. you might have seen me bash out at "corrupt indian buggers". but life goes on.
ur agenda is direct. you made money out of dubai. you ran away with the money and you still want more money by publicising your book. sorry mate i aint no john rainbow and i definitely dont want to know what a spy does. my morales arent low as you so dont worry wont be planning on getting a dingy, tying it to the back of a oil tanker and whisk away to india.
fact is dubai is the only place on earth that has changed so quickly. and in my 10 years here, it was worth it. and i admit i was a fool that i hadnt moved here ages ago. but i am still happy to be able to see dubai change quickly. rudeboy
lol i ll let you keep on guessing where I am from.
by the way this is a forum so let your hair down and chill. if you want to become a police officer i suggest you go down to the police academy. the admin dont have a problem with my "bashing" so dont see why its bothering you. unless you are a member of UN or NATO. you sure u aint mother thresea back from the dead?
sheesh first you say please talk about dubai politics in the politicis section and now the geeza wants me to stop bashing. lol i dont bash i just make fun out of ppl it comes with the nickname humpty. get it? Speedhump Pointless for me to prolong this stupidity. If you're only here to 'bash' and annoy people I think the forums would be better off without you. You are the only person here gutless enough not to say where you are from. I think that says it all. Your brain must be miniscule as you've used the same Mother Teresa comment three times against me in the past weeks. You've got very little going on up top mate, eh? rudeboy
humpty why are you hell bent on knowing where i am from :S. i mean does it keep you up at night :D. come on mate. take it easy. i am a saudi. will that do :D RobbyG
It explains alot :D Speedhump LOL @ Robby. Yes it will do, why were you so shy? Your country produces amazing terrorists out of it's terrible poverty stricken masses, you should be proud...... I am not going to keep digging you about your country. But you see how easy it is, and you keep on doing it about others. Grow up. rudeboy
lol you bloody phools i was being sarcastic LOL good come back though. "your country produces the best terroists". lol thank u and bless you lad. they surely are financied by your governments. oh is it true that recently 3 saudis flew back from gauntanamo bay to saudi :D herve
for once your post is not filled with hatred and blind accusations, almost fair and balanced, only you just dont know what you are talking about. i did not make millions, i did not leave with millions either, i lost millions, i was brought to Dubai, i did not go there like you, that is different. don't beleive what is in the papers controled by the government. you probably have not lived anywhere else but Dubai, so you cannot compare with other cities. there are no perfect cities, granted, but the reason you bring forward for your thrill to be in Dubai, is not even valid. Let me tell you about a thousand year old fishing village, may be a thousands souls back in 1980, then established as an economic zone, today a megalopole of 9 millions people, 6 times Dubai, towers, hi tech buildings, but i guess your biased vision towards the smoke and mirrors of Dubai has prevented you to look at Shenzhen in China. i have been there, i saw. that is different.
and i bet you, when Dubai turns to a ghost city, Shenzhen will still be growing. Man, travel a bit, open your eyes. rudeboy
if you want to defend your honour and if you are telling the truth just turn yourself to the interpol or the french authorities and defend your name in a french court. instead of coming online and publicise about ur book on a forum.
yes u were brought to dubai. did they take away the passport from u from day 1 u entered dubai? when was your passport taken from you? when did u notice that things were turning bad?
lol dont tell me i have to read the book to find out the truth :D
as for travelling lol mate i have travelled to 20 countries and lived in 3 countries in my life. Misery Called Life What do you think he's doing by writing the book? He's defending himself! And RB whadya mean turn yourself into Interpol? You think they that jobless? :D But RB you did raise a brilliant point... If Herve is indeed innocent, can't he file some kind of Defamation suit or shouldn't he be contacting the ILO? I'm sure some organization would like to hear your side of the story. You did mention once that you had the backing of and international news agency, right? herve
At least rudeboy recognized that turning oneself to a UAE court is suicide, the judicial system is not independant, the government coerces witnesses and fabricates evidences. i will tell you that this forum is monitored by the Amn Al Dawla, the secret state police, have you heard that name before? i am not talking about the CID, they are choir boys compared to the other goons, so i have to be very carefull to not give any info too early to strike better later. However since my book is about to be released i can tell you that the reason why they never arrested me or put me to trial is simple , i have never committed any frauds what so ever, instead Abdul Qader the director of the Group internal audit of dubai world and reporting directly to Sultan Bin Sulayem set me up and told the police that i had smuggle weapons in the country. they took my passport, and threatened me to be tortured if i did not confess. This had nothing to do with money laundering. last December after a reporter told them i escaped they panicked and put up this bogus trial.
Later, they detained the poor guy, now this reporter will never , ever return to Dubai, he knows now what i am talking about.i hope rudeboy never goes through the same situation to find out how much right i was.
What hapened to me is not unique, hundreds others are trapped or detained, only they cant speak out, or get out. puppypup Oh I totally missed this juicy stuff. Is Herve like Roman Polanski? sage & onion Who called him back again??????????????????? herve
you did ......
with your insults and constant nagging, i pity you, you must be a very unhappy man. herve
For sure my book has all the material to make a blockbuster movie, from real events, real story stuff, but i am far from this talented director. Speedhump
Bora found an article about him and repeated it which has 'invoked' him yet again like a bad spirit. :roll:
Sleazy ex-spy who deals in weapons of war (submarines) for profit and chooses his bedfellows poorly. Oh, and he didn't 'come' to the UAE apparently, like the rest of us expats, he was 'made' to come here. Brainless buffoon.
And he wants us to feel sorry for him....it's pathetic. michaeldubai speedhump and likeminded fellows: you should probably go through what hundreds have experienced here. being dragged to a police station, charges pressed and deported for no fault of yours. Yeah you probably have it going well now. Speedhump
Sorry, I believe in the saying 'there is no smoke without fire' it's generally true if you dig deeper. michaeldubai trust me - even I did! and then my eyes opened! BlackburnRovers
But the "fire" varies from case to case. Sometimes, the wrong person can hit your car, and you will be charged with hitting him. A man was in jail for 2 days because he offered water to a person asking for it (who subsequently had a heart attack)..... Speedhump Well. Anyone who goes to the aid of someone in difficulty here knows or should know that they are liable to temporary jail and definitely payment of blood money if that person dies. It's everyone's own personal responsibility to know the laws of a country they decide to live in. Most of this you can even find out just by talking to people. Living in a foriegn country is a serious business, too many people think it's an extended holiday with no consequences. Even in the UK the law says that 'ignorance of the law is no excuse' - it's a very clear tenet. herve
in the UK they don t jail couple caught in a hotel because they are not married, why would anybody want to live in a country with such anachronistic laws, knowingly, unless it is to spent hours behind his computer posting blogs like your self. people i knew in dubai were to busy working, or going out to maintain such posting activity like you do. unless you are on a payroll to do so.
information should be more open, so tourist and workers go in other countries where they dont have the risk to be arrested for the silliest reasons.
Speedhump My work is my own affair. Four short days a week is enough to keep my money rolling in, thanks for asking you nosey bastard. I am sick of saying the law is the law, be aware, follow it, or don't go to foreign countries blind, as some fools do. What you consider silly is gross insult to others (Muslims for example). You stupid man, if you don't understand that you should have stayed in your own country. RobbyG
Hey SH, what about people with good intentions that unfortunately are not that fortunate. It might be to blame for themselves, but perhaps other parties you can't control...who knows what really happened.
Perhaps you should lower your judgement a bit and just wait till the facts come floating above. In the mean time, everyone who is judging him for what supposably happened to this man H.J. tells more about them than him, in my intellect.
:idea:
Khalas Speedhump khalas indeed. ;) Misery Called Life
When you put it that way Robby, who can disagree with you?
Well Said! Speedhump Sorry, I thought it was 'khalas'! :D Yes at least Robby has come back a step from before when he was willing to believe this guy even before he read the book :P Reading this guy's account of some events will prove nothing. So what will you get out of it? It will be a strongly one-sided and obviously quite personally biased version of whatever took place. You can see it from the guy's vitriol against Arabs. Don't expect a impartial book, please. Why pay money for that unless you like fiction? Oh well, each to ther own. :roll: Speedhump
I think it seems to be less about what happened to him (which in fact was nothing, nothing was done to him by anyone, he ran away flrom a bad situation, seemingly of his own making), but more about what he did .
Have you read the story at the start of this thread? If you only want the truth you will wait to hear the real news when 'the truth will come out'. Then we will see what happened and who has lied and cheated. If you just want to read a story then sure buy the book! Speedhump Robby I think he is being judged more for his stupid posts here and self-aggrandisement than the story he has or has not made up. RobbyG
I strongly disagree with this statement.
My initial statements were purely to support the defensive of this man, just because we can't decide about that. What do we know???
Some people were cornering him from the beginning, not that he cares, but I always let you people know what I think about cornering without knowing the facts.
I would try and support anyone that has a story to tell but is unrespectfully treated. I'm not supporting his story, but I did tell you guys that it was a plausible story.
That doesn't mean its true though. 8) Speedhump sage & onion
Triple T mate - True - True - True RedKite Now Herve is selling his book!! So his plugging on here ....makes you look!!!!! Argue like hell!! And the book will sell well!! That is logic ........unless I'm mistook !!! Now I have visit hyphen dubai , I won't plug that !! I don't even try !! It's a dot co uk, Got that OK ?? I'm in business .......but never a spy !!! puppypup I'd like to have a good principal or secondary role in his blockbuster movie or even the made-for-TV one. :roll: :lol: Speedhump
He'd probably want to paint you gold and kill you. RedKite Now if Herve had got Robbie's boat , Nautic Dreams shows the one that I quote !! He'd be in Mumbai, Soon after Dubai ! That boat seems to fly ,more than float !!! Misery Called Life Sudan turns fraudster over to Dubai Police A man was arrested in Sudan and handed over to Dubai Police under an Interpol warrant for his arrest for allegedly conning a UAE national out of more than Dh265,000. If the authorities here are indeed sure that Herve is guilty maybe this is what they could do. But considering the amount of time that has passed it seems unlikely. capsicum The court system is Sudan is probably three hundred years from the court system in France so I doubt that any decision from a trial in abstentia would stick for an extradition and his book would become a best seller herve something i predicted after i escaped on a boat. Now i am laughing my head off. read the article, it is unheard of, even in the worst dictatorships. now every boater must install an electronic beacon on their boats so that the coast guards can track them, it is not going to be fun to do boating in the UAE, let alone trying to escape this caged country. but i doubt this going to apply to the Sheikhs and their boats RobbyG
:wink: :lol: dresden Sheesh. 100 posts later and the main purpose of this thread still remains "building up interest in a book". On any other forum, this would be called SPAM and deleted within a day.
Herve, I think part of your story is true, but I'm not so naive to believe that you speak the 100% truth. Fact is, there are 3 sides to this story: Yours, Dubai's and what really happened. We may never know what really happened, and you know what? I really dont care...
Bon chance.
RobbyG
Then why bother to respond? :idea:
Leave the man in his value and move over to another topic Dressie. dresden ^ i could ask you the same thing? :? Turning all philosophical on me now huh? :) capsicum there must some truth in his story, disturbing enough to make the government forcing boaters to install a tracking device on their boats. uaekid
You are the brightest member on DF , yes you are absolutely right, I almost got tricked that this move was for the boaters saftey, stupid me . dresden
UPDATE
Full article:
Bora Bora
Come on Herve, let's hear how they are framing you!!!! viking-warrior Hello children and welcome to Storytime again, This story was sent in by Abdul and he did it for homework last term. He was very happy with it and his teacher gave him a gold star. ++ Once upon a time there live a bad frenchie in a country called Notwintowers. He was an evil man. He came to the same country as my daddy live. And me I think, but my sister she look like a monkey so I don know. He say he building submeens, my daddy show me picture and tv of submeens, all the submeens he no build The bad frenchie man is evil and not good at maths like wot my daddy is. He steal lots and lots of money. My daddy take my Fisher Price "easy adder" and add numbers like I am doing in class. He add 900 and 200 and 140 and 70 and money number is making easy 14 Kagillion. Daddy then taked all his paper and show Uncle Ali, he is big judging man and he is sending the big bad frenchie sailor spy man goes to jail for ever and ever. The end AdbulQ aged 49 ++ Any questions Yes Clive I know the numbers don't add up but try to remember this is a work of fiction not fact Don't pick your nose when asking a question Sarah, yes I am sure the evil frenchie spy got his bottom smacked No Sultani its not true just because Abdul says it is, only an idiot would believe him without checking his facts first I'm very sorry Sultini if I implied you were an idiot, you are in fact special, VERY special Next week will be reviewing a piece by M. Karbrash who wrote a piece entitled "DIB idiotic bank - they all go jail - I go Holiday"



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