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Rapture


shafique Rapture is a concept in Christianity that fascinates me ever since I saw an episode of Law and Order which dealt with a church who believed in this concept.
In brief, the belief that is before the second coming of Jesus - those 'deserving' Christians who are truly following Christianity will be whisked away and will appear to disappear from earth.
It may be a primarily American belief - but I'm not sure. It seems a bit 'far out' to me - and the wiki entry for Rapture makes interesting reading (but I haven't really studied this subject).
It is interesting also to read the various predictions that have been made for when rapture will occur:

(It looks like the predictions for 2009 and earlier were a bit off the mark!
To be honest, I was surprised that people believed this - but less surprised that many Americans did.
Perhaps eh can shed some light on this - he seems to hold a number of quaint beliefs and presents himself as a Biblical expert. I presume that he believes in rapture - because the Bible says so?
Cheers,
Shafique
Roadtester There are conspiracy theories about rapture and right wing christian neocons in america and how bush's interest is linked to the middle east. George bush was alledged to have said god told him to go to the middle east to sort out iraq, alqueda etc. Shafique - have your heard about PNAC? (Project for the new american century) senior republican party members were linked to this group. event horizon Shafique, I never knew you were a video game fan boi. Roadtester I think the jehovas witness's are a kind of rapture type cult, they do have a fair number of followers, they keep putting the apocalypse back. Suppposadly so many will be wisked off to heaven the rest will stay on earth. Though I dont know if you can 'upgrade' so you get on the spaceship to heaven? shafique Roadtester - yes I have heard about the PNAC, and its amazing how many of the authors made it to positions of power and how much of what they wrote about Bush et al implemented. Neo-cons get a bad rap these days - but ultimately it looks like they got their way and thus far Obama hasn't done much to turn their 'achievements' around. But let's give him time. As for Rapture and other 'interesting' beliefs - it shows that 'eh' isn't the only one that can draw fantastical conclusions and beliefs from the Bible! Interestingly, he hasn't denied/confirmed that he believes in this either. Perhaps he's already on the 'mother ship'???? :) Cheers, Shafique event horizon The mother ship is invisible and, of course, it levitates. It was actually supposed to be used to descend Ghulam down to the mosque he constructed in his home (the mosque he built to resemble the one in Syria) but apparently Ghulam just said he descended from that mosque and some actually took his word for it. Too bad for Ghulam though. It would appear that his own family thought of him as a con-artist and his wiser followers accused him of embezzlement. shafique But - it appears you still have an internet connection in the mother ship. Is this 'Ghulam' a fellow believer in Rapture of yours? :lol: Cheers, Shafique event horizon Mirza Ghulam Ahmad? Possibly.... He did convince some lost souls that he was Mary and pregnant with Jesus. shafique Ah, I get it - your belief in rapture makes as much sense as a guy claiming to be Mary and becoming pregnant and giving birth to himself. I'd have to agree - Rapture appears to me to be a wierd belief, and yet those who hold it base it on the Bible. I look forward to your explanation of why you agree (or perhaps disagree?) with the belief in Rapture. Cheers, Shafique event horizon Yes, I agree. Mirza Ahmad - a false prophet, conman, was a bit of weirdo. Good point.

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shafique So you denounce those who believe in Rapture just because it is in the Bible? Fair enough - we both choose which parts of the Bible to believe and which parts to dismiss. Cheers, Shafique



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