pinoy1
My company has just released our ramadan work schedule, 8AM-3:30PM for muslims, 8AM-6PM for non-muslims... I though it was the same sched for both? Or is this the 'new trend?
I know it's a muslim holiday but... :?
^ian^
- pinoy1 wrote:
My company has just released our ramadan work schedule, 8AM-3:30PM for muslims, 8AM-6PM for non-muslims... I though it was the same sched for both? Or is this the 'new trend?
I know it's a muslim holiday but... :?
Ours is 9 til 3 regardless of what you call god. I think it's up to the company's discretion with non-muslims.
the_zooter
- pinoy1 wrote:
8AM-3:30PM for muslims, 8AM-6PM for non-muslims
What hours would you normally work??
Eros
in our office timings have been reduced for all staff ... regardless of religion.... :cheers:
Princess Banana Hammock
Legally, nobodody's working day should exceed 6 hours, regardless of their religion...
weary_heart
Hey pinoy1, Ramadan work timing really depends on the company. For us, Muslims will get 2 hours less working hours (regular timing is 8-4, then they'll just work 8-2) and for Non-Muslims - well, regular working hours!
Jeevan
we are working from 8 to 5 so i guess no ramadan for us.
J
Nick81
I wish I'd feel sad and envious after reading the above posts but I've reached a state where I am just like "what's the point?" every time I deal with things like this... It'll be 8h30 to 19h as usual for me...
In any case, I am going to Oman on Wednesday and I am pretty sure my customer's company is 100% muslim so I'll most prolly be fasting with them whether I like it or not. Good thing they close at 14h...
sage & onion
- Princess Banana Hammock wrote:
Legally, nobodody's working day should exceed 6 hours, regardless of their religion...
PBH is correct, legally speaking it is 6 hours for all
dbxsoul
- sage & onion wrote:
- Princess Banana Hammock wrote:
Legally, nobodody's working day should exceed 6 hours, regardless of their religion...
PBH is correct, legally speaking it is 6 hours for all
regs. state two hours shorter per day than normal (for all), depends on your working hours; most ofice workers normally have a 48 hour week, restraurant and service industries have a 54 hour week.
it may aslo vary as some companies have instituted a 2 day weekend, but to compensate for the loss of man hours have increased the working hours over the 5 days.
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Nick81
- sage & onion wrote:
- Princess Banana Hammock wrote:
Legally, nobodody's working day should exceed 6 hours, regardless of their religion...
PBH is correct, legally speaking it is 6 hours for all
:cry:
bushra21
does this mean i can sue my boss...err my ex boss?
we would end up working 2-3 day shifts sometimes :cry:
PrettyPenny
Legally its 6 hours for all. Some people at our offices do that, others fast and work 8 hours. I understand that during Ramadan we are supposed to fast and continue our lives as normal. Its not supposed to be a holiday, that wasn't the reason it was introduced. So why people work for 6 hours is beyond me. Anyway, thats just a personal opinion. I understand that it can be taxing on ones energies.
sage & onion
- dbxsoul wrote:
- sage & onion wrote:
- Princess Banana Hammock wrote:
Legally, nobodody's working day should exceed 6 hours, regardless of their religion...
PBH is correct, legally speaking it is 6 hours for all
regs. state two hours shorter per day than normal (for all), depends on your working hours; most ofice workers normally have a 48 hour week, restraurant and service industries have a 54 hour week.
it may aslo vary as some companies have instituted a 2 day weekend, but to compensate for the loss of man hours have increased the working hours over the 5 days.
Is not the official working weeh 48 hours for all?
sage & onion
- sage & onion wrote:
- dbxsoul wrote:
- sage & onion wrote:
- Princess Banana Hammock wrote:
Legally, nobodody's working day should exceed 6 hours, regardless of their religion...
PBH is correct, legally speaking it is 6 hours for all
regs. state two hours shorter per day than normal (for all), depends on your working hours; most ofice workers normally have a 48 hour week, restraurant and service industries have a 54 hour week.
it may aslo vary as some companies have instituted a 2 day weekend, but to compensate for the loss of man hours have increased the working hours over the 5 days.
Is not the official working weeh 48 hours for all?
Good point about the new 5 day week, our company for instance does 9 1/2 per day so we in theory should be 7 1/2 per day
dbxsoul
if you check out the labour contract - point 10 the contractual working week used to be 48 hours (6 days times 8 hours a day), with the exception of security, hospitality, hotels etc where it was 54 hours (6 days times 9 hours a day).
with the introduction of the 2 day weekend, many companies now have a productivity problem, as you have to work about 9.5 hours a day to get 48 hours a week (for normal staff) and about 10.5 hours a day for hotel staff - this is exclusive of their lunch breaks etc. so someone in the hotel industry could easily pull a 12 hour day - if they wanted a 2 day weekend!
the law does not state 6 hour days - it states reduced by 2 hours per day - but this was actually based on the old model of a 6 day working week of 8 hours a day:
Article 65
“The maximum or normal working hours for adult employees shall be eight hours per day or forty eight hours per week. However, working hours may be increased to nine hours per day for people employed in trading, hotels, cafes, guarding, restaurants and other jobs that may be added by a decision from the Minister of Labour & Social Affairs. The daily working hours may also be reduced with regard to onerous or harmful jobs by a decision from the Minister of Labour & Social Affairs and the ordinary working hours shall be reduced by two hours during Ramadan .
The time which the employee spends on his way to and from the place of work shall not be included in the working hours.”
MaaaD
yes 6 hours by law. But i have heard of companies that will give the non-muslims the option of working normal hours and getting days off for Xmas which is not an official public holiday.
scarlet
Good point maad. My employer is Christian so we get days off for Easter and Christmas but full hours in Ramadan 9.5 hrs per day
sage & onion
- dbxsoul wrote:
if you check out the labour contract - point 10 the contractual working week used to be 48 hours (6 days times 8 hours a day), with the exception of security, hospitality, hotels etc where it was 54 hours (6 days times 9 hours a day).
with the introduction of the 2 day weekend, many companies now have a productivity problem, as you have to work about 9.5 hours a day to get 48 hours a week (for normal staff) and about 10.5 hours a day for hotel staff - this is exclusive of their lunch breaks etc. so someone in the hotel industry could easily pull a 12 hour day - if they wanted a 2 day weekend!
the law does not state 6 hour days - it states reduced by 2 hours per day - but this was actually based on the old model of a 6 day working week of 8 hours a day:
Article 65
“The maximum or normal working hours for adult employees shall be eight hours per day or forty eight hours per week. However, working hours may be increased to nine hours per day for people employed in trading, hotels, cafes, guarding, restaurants and other jobs that may be added by a decision from the Minister of Labour & Social Affairs. The daily working hours may also be reduced with regard to onerous or harmful jobs by a decision from the Minister of Labour & Social Affairs and the ordinary working hours shall be reduced by two hours during Ramadan .
The time which the employee spends on his way to and from the place of work shall not be included in the working hours.”
Very good explanation DBX, should be interesting where we go from here.
XRW-147
Shit, 9.5 hours/day just to have a weekend - that's a rip.
My normal work week is only 37.5hrs and now its down to 29.5 hours - joy.
XRW-147
- scarlet wrote:
Good point maad. My employer is Christian so we get days off for Easter and Christmas but full hours in Ramadan 9.5 hrs per day
I think this is one of the advantages of working for an MNC, you still get to have your cake and eat it too.
Palkid7
- pinoy1 wrote:
My company has just released our ramadan work schedule, 8AM-3:30PM for muslims, 8AM-6PM for non-muslims... I though it was the same sched for both? Or is this the 'new trend?
I know it's a muslim holiday but... :?
Well mine is from 8AM-3PM yet I reach the office around 9 and leave around 2 !!! :lol: :lol:
I know for sure that according to law all staff should get the same working hours in Ramadan regardless of ur religion !! yet it is not followed in most of the companies like mine !!
:evil:
sage & onion
- Palkid7 wrote:
- pinoy1 wrote:
My company has just released our ramadan work schedule, 8AM-3:30PM for muslims, 8AM-6PM for non-muslims... I though it was the same sched for both? Or is this the 'new trend?
I know it's a muslim holiday but... :?
Well mine is from 8AM-3PM yet I reach the office around 9 and leave around 2 !!! :lol: :lol:
I know for sure that according to law all staff should get the same working hours in Ramadan regardless of ur religion !! yet it is not followed in most of the companies like mine !!
:evil:
Hopefully you won't complain when they give you the boot :lol:
Palkid7
nah don't worry ma8 i only do it when there is no much of work to be done !! when i have something to do sometimes I stay for overtime !!! 8)
sage & onion
- Palkid7 wrote:
nah don't worry ma8 i only do it when there is no much of work to be done !! when i have something to do sometimes I stay for overtime !!! 8)
Paid overtime :?: :lol:
Palkid7
- sage & onion wrote:
- Palkid7 wrote:
nah don't worry ma8 i only do it when there is no much of work to be done !! when i have something to do sometimes I stay for overtime !!! 8)
Paid overtime :?: :lol:
Not really, i get extra days off for overtime !!!
sage & onion
- Palkid7 wrote:
- sage & onion wrote:
- Palkid7 wrote:
nah don't worry ma8 i only do it when there is no much of work to be done !! when i have something to do sometimes I stay for overtime !!! 8)
Paid overtime :?: :lol:
Not really, i get extra days off for overtime !!!
Can you send me an application form please?
Palkid7
y ??
interested in applying here ?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
sage & onion
- Palkid7 wrote:
y ??
interested in applying here ?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
5 hours a day and days off in lieu of overtime sounds like my kind of job
Palkid7
hahahhahahahaha
well u have to be a person who has suffered, and is ready to suffer anytime for the rest of ur life !!! (so can u guess the job) ???
sage & onion
- Palkid7 wrote:
hahahhahahahaha
well u have to be a person who has suffered, and is ready to suffer anytime for the rest of ur life !!! (so can u guess the job) ???
Immigration, Municipality, Customs
Palkid7
Wrong !!
try guess the profession!! :lol: :lol:
sage & onion
- Palkid7 wrote:
Wrong !!
try guess the profession!! :lol: :lol:
Dentist
Palkid7
nope, think harder man !! it begins with an E !!
sage & onion
- Palkid7 wrote:
nope, think harder man !! it begins with an E !!
Ecologist
Economist
Engineer
Egyt
pinoy1
Embalmer?
Palkid7
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Engineer would be the answer !!! 8)
r u up to it ?
sage & onion
Yeah, that will do it :lol:
sage & onion
- Palkid7 wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Engineer would be the answer !!! 8)
r u up to it ?
So send me the form Man!!!!
Palkid7
No way !! ma8 !!
u should start job huntung urself !! :twisted:
as an engineer u should suffer !!! remember !! :lol: :lol: :lol:
sage & onion
- Palkid7 wrote:
No way !! ma8 !!
u should start job huntung urself !! :twisted:
as an engineer u should suffer !!! remember !! :lol: :lol: :lol:
You think at 55 I havn't suffered
Palkid7
Oh,
sorry grandpa !! i didn't mean to !!! :oops: :oops:
shafique
Our company, which operates in the DIFC, is 9 to 3 for all employees. The e-mail that came round said that the DIFC hours during Ramadan was 9 to 3.
However, according to DIFC employment law (2005) - which is different from 'normal UAE law':
21.1 During the Holy month of Ramadan, an employee who fasts will not be required to work for more than 6 hours a day.
21.2 Fasting employees who choose to work more than 6 hours will be entitled to rest breaks detailed in 24..
Cheers,
Shafique
sage & onion
- Palkid7 wrote:
Oh,
sorry grandpa !! i didn't mean to !!! :oops: :oops:
Grandfather and more than proud of it :lol:
liverpool4ever
- Princess Banana Hammock wrote:
Legally, nobodody's working day should exceed 6 hours, regardless of their religion...
Exactly! There are Muslims who don't fast in the first place and non-Muslims who fast out of respect... So it should be the same for all
yorky500
I do not think that the labour law distinguishes Muslim and non-muslim. It states that each Employee shall work two hours less each day during the holy month of ramadan.
FEDERAL LAW NO. (8) OF 1980
LABOUR LAW AND ITS AMENDMENTS
CHAPTER IV
WORKING HOURS AND LEAVES
SECTION 1
WORKING HOURS
ARTICLE (65)
The maximum normal working hours for adult employees shall be eight hours per day or forty eight hours per week. However, working hours for the employees of commercial establishments, hotels, restaurants, watchmen and similar operations may be increased to nine hours per day as determined by the Minister of Labour. Likewise, working hours per day in respect of hazardous work or work detrimental to health, may be decreased by decision of the Minister of Labour and Social Affairs. During the month of Ramadan, normal working hours shall be reduced by two hours.
Time spent by the employee in transport form his residence to the place of work shall not be included in the working hours.
mema
its 6hrs muslim and non..at my work
zam
eheeerrrmmmmm...were gonna have a 9 - 2 pm working schedule.... :lol:
mema
:wav: Ramadhaan Kareem every one..