- qdabdul wrote:
nope, its only to say that you're just a pussy cat.
Ever seen a lion kill its prey? It aims for your oxygen pipe and squeezes it firmly until you give up...
Bora is one of them killers
busa If a Christian women marries a Muslim man is it allowed for them to have the marriage blessed in a Christian church after the traditional Muslim wedding,or would it be considered to be Haram by the Muslim man. And please lets not slip into the usual BS which every thread seems to fall into these days. Chocoholic Really not sure, but doesn't the woman have to convert? busa Just had another thought,does the brides Father have to pay out any cash Chocoholic
- busa wrote:
Just had another thought,does the brides Father have to pay out any cash
Isn't that general tradition? Misery Called Life It's just a one off formal ceremony where the non Christian does not partake in any of the rituals apart from the vows and the signing, so the question of haram does not arise. busa
- Chocoholic wrote:
- busa wrote:
Just had another thought,does the brides Father have to pay out any cash
Isn't that general tradition? - busa wrote:
In the Christian version yeah,but i hope not in the Muslim version as well
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- Misery Called Life wrote:
It's just a one off formal ceremony where the non Christian does not partake in any of the rituals apart from the vows and the signing, so the question of haram does not arise.
So he could stand at the alter whilst the bride is walked down the aisl by her Father,i can just picture it now,one in a Kandora and the wench in a white gown,no confusion there at all for visiting relatives lol. Misery Called Life
- busa wrote:
- Misery Called Life wrote:
It's just a one off formal ceremony where the non Christian does not partake in any of the rituals apart from the vows and the signing, so the question of haram does not arise.
So he could stand at the alter whilst the bride is walked down the aisl by her Father,i can just picture it now,one in a Kandora and the wench in a white gown,no confusion there at all for visiting relatives lol. - Misery Called Life wrote:
:lol:
Dude I've seen worse, cowboy hats and studs, flowery shirts and wat not!
A Kandora eh? Now that's a whole different ball game. Then again no Church in the Gulf would bless such a couple, so they'd have to go abroad.
And there if the guy insists on a Kandoora, then power to him. That would definately be a pleasant sight! :D snake The Birde's Father doesn't pay anything, the Groom pays what they call "before-wedding" and "after-wedding" fees XD busa
- snake wrote:
The Birde's Father doesn't pay anything, the Groom pays what they call "before-wedding" and "after-wedding" fees
XD
Quite possibly the greatest news i have had since her birth. :D Bora Bora
- Chocoholic wrote:
Really not sure, but doesn't the woman have to convert?
Muslim men can marry non-muslim women, but male children from the marriage will be raised muslim without question. Muslim women must marry muslim men. A non-muslim wife converts only if she chooses to do so. sage & onion
- Bora Bora wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Really not sure, but doesn't the woman have to convert?
Muslim men can marry non-muslim women, but male children from the marriage will be raised muslim without question. Muslim women must marry muslim men. A non-muslim wife converts only if she chooses to do so. - Chocoholic wrote:
Correct vicked
- Bora Bora wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Really not sure, but doesn't the woman have to convert?
Muslim men can marry non-muslim women, but male children from the marriage will be raised muslim without question. Muslim women must marry muslim men. A non-muslim wife converts only if she chooses to do so. - Chocoholic wrote:
r u sure, could u provide a reference here; iv not heard that bfore qdabdul
- busa wrote:
If a Christian women marries a Muslim man is it allowed for them to have the marriage blessed in a Christian church after the traditional Muslim wedding,or would it be considered to be Haram by the Muslim man.
And please lets not slip into the usual BS which every thread seems to fall into these days.
Here's the correct answer to your question: Depends where you are.
If you are in the in the west, it is allowed. but if you are in the middle east is it Haram......
forget about asking anyone on a forum like this. at the end you'll only be cross-eyed and try to walk in opposite directions at the same time. ;-) Bora Bora
- qdabdul wrote:
- busa wrote:
If a Christian women marries a Muslim man is it allowed for them to have the marriage blessed in a Christian church after the traditional Muslim wedding,or would it be considered to be Haram by the Muslim man.
And please lets not slip into the usual BS which every thread seems to fall into these days.
Here's the correct answer to your question: Depends where you are.
If you are in the in the west, it is allowed. but if you are in the middle east is it Haram......
forget about asking anyone on a forum like this. at the end you'll only be cross-eyed and try to walk in opposite directions at the same time. ;-) - busa wrote:
So is that to say that you are the only knowledgeable person???
- busa wrote:
If a Christian women marries a Muslim man is it allowed for them to have the marriage blessed in a Christian church after the traditional Muslim wedding,or would it be considered to be Haram by the Muslim man.
Common practise in a real Christian marriage: there would be pre-marriage counseling and both couples must have been baptised (in your case it means the man must be converted) before the blessing at church.
According to some of my Muslim friends, even visiting a non-Muslim home at certain events (Christmas) or entering church are considered haram, let alone having a wedding at church. CMIIW. Misery Called Life
- xty wrote:
- busa wrote:
If a Christian women marries a Muslim man is it allowed for them to have the marriage blessed in a Christian church after the traditional Muslim wedding,or would it be considered to be Haram by the Muslim man.
Common practise in a real Christian marriage: there would be pre-marriage counseling and both couples must have been baptised (in your case it means the man must be converted) before the blessing at church.
According to some of my Muslim friends, even visiting a non-Muslim home at certain events (Christmas) or entering church are considered haram, let alone having a wedding at church. CMIIW. - busa wrote:
But he's not talking about conversion, Just a blessing. The great white wedding? Every girl's dream.
Outside of the GCC, church's elsewhere will bless such a couple. Where I come from the community is rather small, where everyone knows everone. So when a girl from the community got hitched outside the faith, (guess conversion was not on the cards for either party), the Church happily blessed the couple. Wows were taken and the book signed, no rituals like communion etc.. Period! Just a one off ceremony. For all you know the boy and his family may never enter a church again.
Ohh she got married to a Hindu and even their priest happily blessed the couple. He did'nt insist on any conversion or anytin.... So there you go! Bora Bora
- Speedhump wrote:
WAIT!!!
LET'S KEEP THIS THREAD ON TRACK.
Busa, I guess your daughter has taken a shine to some guy a little before you expected? Maybe Bora has some tips from the 'other side of the fence' (I mean the female side and also to the 'married to a Muslim' side).
If she can roast qdabdul quickly and lightly and move past it... :D
:cry: I don't intend to drive this thread south. Actually, you guys were doing a pretty good job without me!
As for qboy, I'll catch him on another thread. Unless, of course, DD gives me the "go ahead"!! :wink:
As for tips, got loads of them!!! Bora Bora
- qdabdul wrote:
nope, its only to say that you're just a pussy cat.
Yeah, i'm just a sweet ol pussy cat and I have my eye on you.
- Misery Called Life wrote:
- xty wrote:
- busa wrote:
If a Christian women marries a Muslim man is it allowed for them to have the marriage blessed in a Christian church after the traditional Muslim wedding,or would it be considered to be Haram by the Muslim man.
Common practise in a real Christian marriage: there would be pre-marriage counseling and both couples must have been baptised (in your case it means the man must be converted) before the blessing at church.
According to some of my Muslim friends, even visiting a non-Muslim home at certain events (Christmas) or entering church are considered haram, let alone having a wedding at church. CMIIW. - busa wrote:
But he's not talking about conversion, Just a blessing. The great white wedding? Every girl's dream.
Outside of the GCC, church's elsewhere will bless such a couple. Where I come from the community is rather small, where everyone knows everone. So when a girl from the community got married outside the faith, (guess conversion was not on the cards for either party), the Church blessed the couple. Wows were taken and the book signed, no rituals like communion etc.. Period! Just a one off ceremony. For all you know the boy and his family may never enter a church again.
At the end of the day for the benefit of mankind someone has to be flexible. And I think the modern day Church is fully aware of that.
Ohh she got married to a Hindu and even their priest happily blessed the couple. He did'nt insist on any conversion or anytin.... - xty wrote:
I bolded the "real" word as in "the right way". Why bother to be blessed if it has no meaning to both couples? In your case, "just a blessing", maybe in small chapels in Vegas or some other "commercialized" churchs/chapels. Misery Called Life
- xty wrote:
I bolded the "real" word as in "the right way". Why bother to be blessed if it has no meaning to both couples? In your case, "just a blessing", maybe in small chapels in Vegas or some other "commercialized" churchs/chapels.
Theoretically your right.
But it's all about being flexible yo.
Sitting there during the Hindu ceremony, bonhomie all round I realised that it's about acceptance and as such religion should promote harmony and not be a barrier. Here are two families embracing each other through culture and through religion.
How can that be wrong? Speedhump It's a pity that the administrators of some religions (as opposed to the religions themselves) seem unable to adapt and progress, thereby not only preventing more cultural interrelationships and understanding, but also holding back entire civilisations. Just another argument in my book for turning our backs on religion completely and forming a more Humanist philosophy to our lives and our world. We have seen enough misery caused by religion down the ages to chance it, if we could get the power out of the hands of clerics worldwide. xty But before asking such administrators/clerics, ask youself first that if you had small children, which religion are they following, father's or mother's (in the case both are having different ones)? Unless you don't have a belief or don't enourage/teach the children have one either. gertrude
- busa wrote:
If a Christian women marries a Muslim man is it allowed for them to have the marriage blessed in a Christian church after the traditional Muslim wedding,or would it be considered to be Haram by the Muslim man.
And please lets not slip into the usual BS which every thread seems to fall into these days.
may I ask if you are the groom or the bride?