gLoBalTeCh
- dubaidiva wrote:
Why are there so many prostitutes in a muslim country like UAE? It's so contradicting everything Islam stands for? Isn't it?
it is because of exparts, so many bachelors are working here, many men are living without family, they used to go back to their country after 1 or 2 years. So for this reason prostitutes are here. hope u understand what i mean to say.
kanelli
I have to say that it is good to have prostitution in Dubai - otherwise more women and children would be victimised with s.e.x crimes in the absence of available s.e.x services.
dubaidiva
Why are there so many prostitutes in a muslim country like UAE? It's so contradicting everything Islam stands for? Isn't it?
the_zooter
yes, it is!
but, at the end of the day, even prostitution comes down to supply and demand!
MaaaD
you can never attract buisnessmen to a city without them, so to build a buisness hub you need them ..
stuchil
talking about supply and demand, i was in Amsterdam recently and as you do walked around a little. What stunned me was in some windows there were women older than my mother. So there is the supply, is there really a demand?
It's hard enough to come up with a reason for paying for something that should be kept between committed partners but you'd think if you were paying you would play above your normal league.
Moester
it's irritating when you go to a club knowing that 95% of the women there are hookers.
how can anyone normally date there is beyond me
kanelli
- MaaaD wrote:
you can never attract buisnessmen to a city without them, so to build a buisness hub you need them ..
Uh, the men should be here on business because there is business to do. I highly doubt that all the prostitution is for businessmen...
Some of us have husbands who are businessman, and they aren't travelling to world cities to have s.e.x with prostitutes. Thanks :)
mraph33
- stuchil wrote:
What stunned me was in some windows there were women older than my mother.
Well they do say its the world's oldest profession. I guess some from the first graduating class are still active.
Moester
- mraph33 wrote:
- stuchil wrote:
What stunned me was in some windows there were women older than my mother.
Well they do say its the world's oldest profession. I guess some from the first graduating class are still active.
hahahaha
yeah OLD SCHOOL :lol:
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the_zooter
- kanelli wrote:
Uh, the men should be here on business because there is business to do. I highly doubt that all the prostitution is for businessmen...
Some of us have husbands who are businessman, and they aren't travelling to world cities to have s.e.x with prostitutes. Thanks :)
K - you are right in the most part, but sadly some men are travelling to world cities to have $ex with prostitutes. I like I say, where there is a demand for it, some one will supply it (just like Fayz's PSP's)
XRW-147
- MaaaD wrote:
you can never attract buisnessmen to a city without them, so to build a buisness hub you need them ..
:lol: Good one.
dubaidiva
Of course there is a demand for it here, obviously. But there is a demand for so many other things that you cannot buy here. You go to jail for taking valium, you cannot even buy a vibrator or smoke a joint! But you can buy hookers?! The point is that this is an Islamic country, to my opinion is HARAM. In Amsterdam the hookers are all happy tax payers, that's not the same. Here poor girls from East Europe and China are being exploited for the pleasure of men, who are mostly married/engaged by the way. It seems to be a 'cool' thing in this part of the world to shag hookers especially when you're involved with someone. I don't mean to offend anyone by the way but mostly locals are the customers. I'm sure most of the girls don't want to do this kind of work but they have no choice. And often they are told they will be working as a waitress or so and when they arrive they find out that the only way to make money is to have sex with multiple guys a day. And yes everywhere you go they are around these days. I think it's becoming too much, and this doesn't look good for tourists visiting Dubai.
Chocoholic
Dubaidiva, you're not offending it's well known that sadly many locals use hookers, not men here on business as has been suggested. Plus you also have to look at it this way, while you have ladies of the night satisfying a demand, the men aren't hassling the women on the street. Now that used to be a big problem!
People make money off the back of it too. You think they'd allow it if someone wasn't taking backhanders?
dubaidiva
It's true that harassment on the streets used to be much worse in Dubai... What a sad place we live in really if you think of it. I start to have had enough to live in this fake fantasy land called Dubai. It looks so nice on the outside but it really isn't. I've been here for 8 yrs and have seen enough... When I leave I'll probably write a nice article in the Dutch newspapers telling the truth about this country...
XRW-147
- dubaidiva wrote:
When I leave I'll probably write a nice article in the Dutch newspapers telling the truth about this country...
Dutch paper? Might be safe to say the Dutch community would have a negative view of this place and its surroundings already.
Moester
you're forgetting the pimps who fool those girls to come and work as waitresses or working in malls or something like and then when they arrive here they take away their passports and force them to do this kind of work, and a lot of those pimps aren't locals, sure the locals aren't helping in solving this problem but they are not the main cause of this mess.
at least that's what i think
Sara1983
- MaaaD wrote:
you can never attract buisnessmen to a city without them, so to build a buisness hub you need them ..
guess thats the very right answer for this Question!
alexandra
- dubaidiva wrote:
Of course there is a demand for it here, obviously. But there is a demand for so many other things that you cannot buy here. You go to jail for taking valium, you cannot even buy a vibrator or smoke a joint! But you can buy hookers?! The point is that this is an Islamic country, to my opinion is HARAM. In Amsterdam the hookers are all happy tax payers, that's not the same. Here poor girls from East Europe and China are being exploited for the pleasure of men, who are mostly married/engaged by the way. It seems to be a 'cool' thing in this part of the world to shag hookers especially when you're involved with someone. I don't mean to offend anyone by the way but mostly locals are the customers. I'm sure most of the girls don't want to do this kind of work but they have no choice. And often they are told they will be working as a waitress or so and when they arrive they find out that the only way to make money is to have fun with multiple guys a day. And yes everywhere you go they are around these days. I think it's becoming too much, and this doesn't look good for tourists visiting Dubai.
i agree with u almost on everything but one point:
"the poor girls who r forced" there r a lot of them in that sad situation and this ones r not to be blamed for anything...NOW there is another story with some other "poor girls" who like to earn good money in a easy way....even if they will get a decent job they will never be able to pay all the "high-life" things they got used to: shopping, jewels, cars, the rent for a flat in a nice area etc.
i am pissed of by this "poo girls" as one of them (chinese) knocked at my bf door and asked him if he wanna buy some dvd's. he saied no and he was about to close the door in her face but she insited to give him a massage and all that stuff, he got annoyed and she did not leave until he saied that if she wont leave he will take her to the police....same story with a russian girl that after he saied no to her in a club she just asked him if he could at least buy a phone card for her :shock: :shock: :shock: i mean what the hell is that anyway??? trust my word when i say that many of them do it for the easy way of getting money!
Moester
hehehe holding a grudge aren't we alex??? :lol:
but you are absolutely right.
for me it's a disaster if i was in a club and one of them knew that i'm from saudi, i think they have this idea that all saudis are princes or some kinda shit, so in a night club i'm usually either from Kuwait or Iran :D they seem to lose interest after knowing that.
alexandra
- Moester wrote:
hehehe holding a grudge aren't we alex??? :lol:
but you are absolutely right.
for me it's a disaster if i was in a club and one of them knew that i'm from saudi, i think they have this idea that all saudis are princes or some kinda shit, so in a night club i'm usually either from Kuwait or Iran :D they seem to lose interest after knowing that.
lol...better to say u r afghan :lol: and there is already a thread in ROmance about the arabian prince :lol: :lol: :lol: it's so clear what soem of the women think and dream of :roll:
u bet i am holding a grudge but only against the ones who do it for the "easy income"...knocking on somebody's door and come up with all that crap( i just wish i could have been there and give her a "massage"...for free :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :lol: but i am lucky that i trust my honey and i know his "policy" about them)
for the rest of them i feel sorry and i really pity them cause this must be a nightmare for them!
Moester
- alexandra wrote:
( i just wish i could have been there and give her a "massage"...for free :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :lol:)
i would love to hear the end of that story
dubaidiva
- Moester wrote:
you're forgetting the pimps who fool those girls to come and work as waitresses or working in malls or something like and then when they arrive here they take away their passports and force them to do this kind of work, and a lot of those pimps aren't locals, sure the locals aren't helping in solving this problem but they are not the main cause of this mess.
at least that's what i think
of course I haven't forgotten the pimps. They even marry these girls for few months at a time... I feel sorry for those girls, that's the whole point. Women r victims everywhere! Especially in this part of the world
alexandra
- Moester wrote:
- alexandra wrote:
( i just wish i could have been there and give her a "massage"...for free :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :lol:)
i would love to hear the end of that story
even if no hooker represents a threat to me(as i know my BF's standards) in a case like that i would "gladly&gently" grab her hair and trust me that when i am done with her she will be a skinhead
well my man is only mine and better for all greedy hookers to keep away :twisted:
dubaidiva
And yes ofcourse there r the ones who do enjoy the life style, and r saving up for an early retirement... but it's getting out of hand here in Dubai I think.. Even when my parents came over one of them tried it on with my dad!!! How embarrassing!! They better create dedicated whore houses rather than having them in all the clubs...
dubaidiva
- alexandra wrote:
- Moester wrote:
- alexandra wrote:
( i just wish i could have been there and give her a "massage"...for free :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :lol:)
i would love to hear the end of that story
even if no hooker represents a threat to me(as i know my BF's standards) in a case like that i would "gladly&gently" grab her hair and trust me that when i am done with her she will be a skinhead
well my man is only mine and better for all greedy hookers to keep away :twisted:
Hahaha, I'll help you :wink: Don't dare to even come close to my man!!!
alexandra
- dubaidiva wrote:
- Moester wrote:
you're forgetting the pimps who fool those girls to come and work as waitresses or working in malls or something like and then when they arrive here they take away their passports and force them to do this kind of work, and a lot of those pimps aren't locals, sure the locals aren't helping in solving this problem but they are not the main cause of this mess.
at least that's what i think
of course I haven't forgotten the pimps. They even marry these girls for few months at a time... I feel sorry for those girls, that's the whole point. Women r victims everywhere! Especially in this part of the world
as much as i hate to say this: women become victims when they lack a brain....most of them r going there with the dream of ARABIAN prince that will marry them and buld a castle for them( how stupid u need to be :roll: and they find a pimp instead of that, or they have already done some illegal stuff and therefore they will be at the pimp's mercy.
in any case they r victims , but many of them become victims of their own bad thinking and fantasy! nevertheless this is a real ordeal for some of them!
alexandra
- dubaidiva wrote:
- alexandra wrote:
- Moester wrote:
- alexandra wrote:
( i just wish i could have been there and give her a "massage"...for free :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :lol:)
i would love to hear the end of that story
even if no hooker represents a threat to me(as i know my BF's standards) in a case like that i would "gladly&gently" grab her hair and trust me that when i am done with her she will be a skinhead
well my man is only mine and better for all greedy hookers to keep away :twisted:
Hahaha, I'll help you :wink: Don't dare to even come close to my man!!!
that's the spirit! hehe :lol:
raidah
- alexandra wrote:
- Moester wrote:
- alexandra wrote:
( i just wish i could have been there and give her a "massage"...for free :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :lol:)
i would love to hear the end of that story
even if no hooker represents a threat to me(as i know my BF's standards) in a case like that i would "gladly&gently" grab her hair and trust me that when i am done with her she will be a skinhead
well my man is only mine and better for all greedy hookers to keep away :twisted:
ur crazy :lol: :lol: :lol: when u wrote about the girl hitting on ur man, i immediatly thought of mine and a situation where some bimbo would approach him. all the blood went to my brain in a sec.
hey, we should start a thread about what women from different cultures would do if some other chick hit on their men :wink: and generally how we treat our men, how the environment we were raised in influences our temperament.
this should be a good guiding book for all men :lol: :lol: :lol:
alexandra
- raidah wrote:
- alexandra wrote:
- Moester wrote:
- alexandra wrote:
( i just wish i could have been there and give her a "massage"...for free :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :lol:)
i would love to hear the end of that story
even if no hooker represents a threat to me(as i know my BF's standards) in a case like that i would "gladly&gently" grab her hair and trust me that when i am done with her she will be a skinhead
well my man is only mine and better for all greedy hookers to keep away :twisted:
ur crazy :lol: :lol: :lol: when u wrote about the girl hitting on ur man, i immediatly thought of mine and a situation where some bimbo would approach him. all the blood went to my brain in a sec.
hey, we should start a thread about what women from different cultures would do if some other chick hit on their men :wink: and generally how we treat our men, how the environment we were raised in influences our temperament.
this should be a good guiding book for all men :lol: :lol: :lol:
that's a good idea amiga...
Liban
I am perplexed.... There are prostitutes in the UAE??? :shock:
raidah
agree, many of them do it, because they want to, not for being poor creatures.
MaaaD
- kanelli wrote:
- MaaaD wrote:
you can never attract buisnessmen to a city without them, so to build a buisness hub you need them ..
Uh, the men should be here on business because there is business to do. I highly doubt that all the prostitution is for businessmen...
Some of us have husbands who are businessman, and they aren't travelling to world cities to have s.e.x with prostitutes. Thanks :)
well i was wrong to generalize. But i was just showing where the demand comes from. The buisnessmen 20 years ago chose to do buisness in dubai rather than in Abu Dhabi, Doha, or Bahrain because of the "facilities"in Dubai ;) and that kept bringing in more buisness .. Also neighboring Saudi generates a good deal of demand too :)
raidah
as weird it may sound, this is the most logical consequence of the dubai life generally. i mean, businessmen or not, there r much more men than women.
i think its obvious why there r so many hookers.
Wafaey
- raidah wrote:
as weird it may sound, this is the most logical consequence of the dubai life generally. i mean, businessmen or not, there r much more men than women.
i think its obvious why there r so many hookers.
I second ur opinion
the_zooter
- Wafaey wrote:
- raidah wrote:
as weird it may sound, this is the most logical consequence of the dubai life generally. i mean, businessmen or not, there r much more men than women.
i think its obvious why there r so many hookers.
I second ur opinion
Something you'd like to share with us Wafaey??
alexandra
- the_zooter wrote:
- Wafaey wrote:
- raidah wrote:
as weird it may sound, this is the most logical consequence of the dubai life generally. i mean, businessmen or not, there r much more men than women.
i think its obvious why there r so many hookers.
I second ur opinion
Something you'd like to share with us Wafaey??
:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
yeah WAf u can open up ur heart buddy , we r a cool gang, never judge ppl no matter what 8) :lol:
MaaaD
- Wafaey wrote:
- raidah wrote:
as weird it may sound, this is the most logical consequence of the dubai life generally. i mean, businessmen or not, there r much more men than women.
i think its obvious why there r so many hookers.
I second ur opinion
Do you want a hooker for your Bday ;)
raidah
- the_zooter wrote:
- Wafaey wrote:
- raidah wrote:
as weird it may sound, this is the most logical consequence of the dubai life generally. i mean, businessmen or not, there r much more men than women.
i think its obvious why there r so many hookers.
I second ur opinion
Something you'd like to share with us Wafaey??
yeah, good observation :wink:
i was taking a guess, which u confirmed...give us all the dirty details :wink:
yshimy
- dubaidiva wrote:
Why are there so many prostitutes in a muslim country like UAE? It's so contradicting everything Islam stands for? Isn't it?
Well,
Sorry to break the conv you are having here, but i need to just say something.
Why people keep saying "IT is a Muslim country so........blah blah blah"
First... it is a muslim country but not ruled by islamic laws... the only country in the world is SAUDIARABIA.
Second... yes it is muslim community, and it is the middle east and it is "Muslim" country... but it became cosmopolitan city. and i would think there are more non-muslims than muslims and even visitors than residents.
Thrid.... I think Germany is being ruled by the Christian party, and Italy too where the Vatican is and all other european countries.... BUT still they got prostitution which is legal and pay taxes, so they as good citizens as any of us are .... theoratically speaking..
But here, Hos are "mostly" on visit visa. their existance is not legal but tolorated, also their business.
That is why in Ramadan you find huge decrease in their existance.
Dubai is very tollerant country to anything but 1) Drugs, 2) herrasing women.. specially local women.
cheers all
MaaaD
isnt Iran also ruled my islamic law ?
kanelli
Yeah, too bad the respect doesn't apply to all women. I get treated like a prostitute even when wearing business attire that covers my body completely (except hair of course). It is so insulting. There is a ridiculous stereotype that Western women are all available. As.sholes.
yshimy
well, about Iran i really don't know, never been there, but more or less they are strict...
Kanelli,
Why you feel that you are being treatede as such??? it is very surprising for me...
MaaaD
- kanelli wrote:
Yeah, too bad the respect doesn't apply to all women. I get treated like a prostitute even when wearing business attire that covers my body completely (except hair of course). It is so insulting. There is a ridiculous stereotype that Western women are all available. As.sholes.
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Kanelli are you over exaggerating !!!
arniegang
She has a thing about it Maad - try getting her to put a short skirt on to go out - init K :wink: :wink:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Wafaey
Defining the cause doesn't mean i'm involved in it.
Working ladies hookers whatever they are called now days they are here and nothing is going to change so u have one of 2 choices.
1. Live with it and stop complaining.
2. Leave.
vixnax
It is annoying as a woman though- if I get asked "psss.... pssss...how much" one more time I going to scream! I don't dress like one- even in business suit full covered I get asked!! It can be really intimidating sometimes. I feel like if I walked into a bar on my own that people would be thinking- hooker!
I feel sorry for the girls who get conned into it- what a way to make a living- it must be terrible for them. And I am sorry but men who use them are taking such a massive health risk.
The problem is when it is all mixed up- I know there are specific areas but there seem to be them or potential customers everywhere you go.
Such a shame.
mraph33
- vixnax wrote:
It is annoying as a woman though- if I get asked "psss.... pssss...how much" one more time I going to scream!
I guess that's the difference between women and men.......I'd give them a 2-for-1 discount just for the compliment.
lalicom
Prostitution in High level is always right (Society will accept)
if it is low level it is wrong (nobody will accept)
Formula is = wrong or wright power is right
bschmidt
- gLoBalTeCh wrote:
it is because of exparts, so many bachelors are working here, many men are living without family, they used to go back to their country after 1 or 2 years. So for this reason prostitutes are here. hope u understand what i mean to say.
That is only one part of the truth.
My wife is working in a bar in a 5-star superior hotel in Dubai and guess which nationality the people are who ask her for sxx in about 90% of the cases?
Just to give you one hint: It's neither Indians nor Pakistanis...
Ben
stuchil
for pure interest alone, what do they charge? And do they include the standard "Tourist tax"?
XRW-147
- mraph33 wrote:
I guess that's the difference between women and men.......I'd give them a 2-for-1 discount just for the compliment.
:lol: Now there's one for the bargain bin.
blizzard
My wife and I had to get up at 4 am to buy a cough syrup for our child who was coughing hard at that time. The only 24 hour pharmacy near our area is the Bin Sina Pharmacy near the Spinney's Ramada. Guess what....I didn't realize that the area is an absolute whoreplace during that time. Plenty of Chinese and African girls were strutting their wares, some even in skimpy attires! And the irony of it all, a police car passed by but did not do any thing!....it made the girls scampered to dark alleys to hide though :lol: Cars of different shapes and size were also seen roving around the area for, guess what.....
gLoBalTeCh
- bschmidt wrote:
- gLoBalTeCh wrote:
it is because of exparts, so many bachelors are working here, many men are living without family, they used to go back to their country after 1 or 2 years. So for this reason prostitutes are here. hope u understand what i mean to say.
That is only one part of the truth.
My wife is working in a bar in a 5-star superior hotel in Dubai and guess which nationality the people are who ask her for sxx in about 90% of the cases?
Just to give you one hint: It's neither Indians nor Pakistanis...
Ben
yep u are right. prosti are only for indian, pakistani, or others exparts and nice women are for.............yes they will force also for s.e.x.
mraph33
- blizzard wrote:
My wife and I had to get up at 4 am to buy a cough syrup for our child who was coughing hard at that time. The only 24 hour pharmacy near our area is the Bin Sina Pharmacy near the Spinney's Ramada. Guess what....I didn't realize that the area is an absolute whoreplace during that time. Plenty of Chinese and African girls were strutting their wares, some even in skimpy attires! And the irony of it all, a police car passed by but did not do any thing!....it made the girls scampered to dark alleys to hide though :lol: Cars of different shapes and size were also seen roving around the area for, guess what.....
wait wait wait.....can you give the address again?
MaaaD
- blizzard wrote:
Cars of different shapes and size were also seen roving around the area for, guess what.....
looking for medicine for there sick child :roll: ?
mraph33
- MaaaD wrote:
- blizzard wrote:
Cars of different shapes and size were also seen roving around the area for, guess what.....
looking for medicine for there sick child :roll: ?
Were there really cars....or is it just a euphemism?
gLoBalTeCh
your reply make me to judge what you are
fayz
Actually I know a few people that have been here for the long haul, and one thing that they all say is there were way more rapes, etc. when there wasn't prostitution. I think the police tolerate it because it is a lot less worse then the alternative and although these women get really annoyed with the constant propositions they don’t have the same fear of walking outside as they once did.
Just food for thought, Also there is a huge thread about this from back in the day discussing what things were like before there was large numbers of prostitutes around.
kanelli
Sounds scary. :shock:
MaaaD
oh prostitutes.. our saviors .. THANK YOU!!!
fayz
- MaaaD wrote:
oh prostitutes.. our saviors .. THANK YOU!!!
What you say at the end of a typical friday night? :lol: :lol:
MaaaD
- fayz wrote:
- MaaaD wrote:
oh prostitutes.. our saviors .. THANK YOU!!!
What you say at the end of a typical friday night? :lol: :lol:
every reply i can think of to this would make this thread end up in fight club so i am gonna practice self restrain :P :P
fayz
- MaaaD wrote:
every reply i can think of to this would make this thread end up in fight club so i am gonna practice self restraint :P :P
Yes every Masochist needs a Sadist :lol: :lol: ....
....okay just playing all good, don't need to start playing the dozens here. I'm slacking at work today, i should really get some studying done, just no motivation.
raidah
- MaaaD wrote:
- fayz wrote:
- MaaaD wrote:
oh prostitutes.. our saviors .. THANK YOU!!!
What you say at the end of a typical friday night? :lol: :lol:
every reply i can think of to this would make this thread end up in fight club so i am gonna practice self restrain :P :P
bring it on, i feel like kicking some ass :lol:
kanelli
Well MaaaD, there are unmarried men, or married men who have not seen their wives in a long time. They get desperate. Some of them aren't satisfied with self-pleasure or think that is bad too, so they lose it and take what they want from a woman. If there are prostitutes, at least these desperate men can go to a separate group of women who will agree to sleep with them for money. Prostitution is not ideal, but in a place like Dubai where men outnumber women and there are so many bachelors, maybe it does serve a useful function in this society.
phunkhoney
what sucks is that they have zero tolerance for drink-driving... and total tolerance for prostitution.... seems a little weird that it's so obviously tolerated.....
at least in some other muslim countries like malaysia every now and then the police conduct raids and send the girls back....
mraph33
- phunkhoney wrote:
what sucks is that they have zero tolerance for drink-driving... and total tolerance for prostitution.... seems a little weird that it's so obviously tolerated.....
at least in some other muslim countries like malaysia every now and then the police conduct raids and send the girls back....
Drinking & driving kills
Prostitution relaxes
fayz
- phunkhoney wrote:
at least in some other muslim countries like malaysia every now and then the police conduct raids and send the girls back....
Actually they just did a raid, about 250 women were arrested from a local place of ill repute,
Mraph :lol: :lol: :lol:
mraph33
- fayz wrote:
- phunkhoney wrote:
at least in some other muslim countries like malaysia every now and then the police conduct raids and send the girls back....
Actually they just did a raid, about 250 women were arrested from a local place of ill repute,
Mraph :lol: :lol: :lol:
250!!! You're giving me much more credit than I deserve
phunkhoney
well that's good... 250 is a start....
it's not that i have anything against prostitution it's just that there's zero tolerance on so many things here... there should also be zero tolerance on prostitution... or it should be legal.... but it should not be a convenient "grey" area....