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uaeaussie A friend of mine is looking at getting some plastic surgery done.She is married and has two kids great body but she feels that her top half needs to be enlarged as they have shrunk as she puts it after child birth.This women looks great now and with this done well she would be superb.She wants to know which is the best place to go and what other people think. :)
Chocoholic I don't think there's anything wrong with plastic sugery so long as you're doing it for the right reasons. Heck so many people do it these days it's becoming the norm, if you don't like something then fix it. Researching plastic surgeons is very important and you must take your time to find the right surgeon for you - or your friend in this case. The is a very good clinic on Al Wasl road, I can't remember the name at the moment but let me get home and dig out their info. The two surgeons there are very well respected and they also work in the hospitals as well as doing the private surgery work. Emirates send all their staff there for any surgical matters. A friend of mine had breast implants with one of the guys there and they're fabulous! Also another friend had collogen implants in the lips - looked great (after initial swelling subsided - you look like you've been punched in the face for a few days). Surgery is fine so long as it doesn't look unnatural. Sounds like your friend just needs a bit of a boost and not knockers from hell! Maybe just a lift and reshape or implants to give a slightly bigger size and firmness. And before anyone asks - No I've never had surgery! uaeaussie You are correct she doesnt want to become Pam A but just wants to increase slightly now the big Question how much if you know.So what if you have had anything its your choice Chocoholic Yep I totally agree. I'll PM the details to you later today. ajoy yes.. we must make efforts to uplift the down-trodden.. :wink: uaeaussie I do not see any thing wrong with a man or women wanting to look there best and it is not a question of being down trodden Chocoholic It has nothing to do with being down trodden at all what a ridiculous thing to say! If you don't like something about yourself, there exists methods to improve things today, but you have to bear in mind that with all surgery comes risk, the outcomes are not always guaranteed and very often people have overly high expectations of what can be achieved. I had moles I didn't like so I had them removed, not only because they were in akward places and so got caught on certain clothing, but also for health reasons. I didn't like my teeth so got braces and fixed them - what's the big deal? Plastic of cosmetic surgery is no different, just invasive. Many people forget it takes a long time to heal - sometimes upto a year! - and that straight after an operation they might very look like they've just walked away from a car wreck. It's certainly nothing to do with bein down trodden. ajoy you didnt get the joke my friend.. ' down trodden ' is a pun.. Chocoholic A pun of what? There's no pun in there - sorry! You'll have to explain it for us thickos around here! uaeaussie Explain it to me to

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well.. look up the thesaurus for the word..
i am sure the three others in the family have 'subjugated', 'oppressed' or 'exploited' her top part.. for their own needs and pleasures..
so it needs upliftment.. :lol: uaeaussie Interesting view :? :? :? Chocoholic That's still not a pun I'm afraid. A pun would be 'A friend had a breast enlargement which certainly 'lifted' the spirits of all her friends'. ajoy
a pun indeed.. but a feeble one.. arniegang Chocs was just giving a very good and accurate example of a "pun" Ajoy :roll: Chocoholic Indeed, because I'm sorry but 'down trodden' was not a pun. And maybe you should pick up a copy of the Dictionary next time, instead of a Thesaurus? ajoy hey.. it was an old school joke... don't take it so seriously... i just remembered it and thought of throwing it here to see if anybody could catch it.. and choco.. i told to refer to a thesaurus.. just to make it simple for u blokes to understand it better.....peace.. :lol: Chocoholic Ajoy, first of all I'm not a bloke. Second a dictionary gives explanations of words, a thesaurus gives alternative words with the same meaning. So in this case a dictionary would be a the more appropriate tool. I'm not taking things seriously. It wasn't funny, it wasn't a pun, it might be 'old skool' but no-one else has ever heard of it, nor did it make any sense. Therefor in conclusion it was irrelevant. ajoy but you acted like one.. cos if you go by the dictionary, you can never make sense... the author of this thread could make some sense out of it... you couldnt..not because u havent undersood it.. .. its because u are a feminist and u couldnt take this joke..as a joke.. :(
fayz Aww don't beat Ajoy up, i kinda got it. she probably read aussie's post as his friend's were getting a bit saggy or down and needed to be uplifted, I don’t think she meant it as an insult just maybe not the funniest of jokes. Back on topic, I’m personally not for them, one of my roomies while in school got hers done, she was hot to begin with and was a beer tub girl at one of the bars, so believe it or not work paid for them. It did help her confidence and tips increased, plus for the first month someone had to do the tough job of massaging them every night to ensure the most natural look by preventing hardening ;) , so not all bad. But after she got them done, she started getting self conscious about her nose, it is downward spiral imho It is sad that society forces so many young women and increasing number of men to be so disappointed with what they see in the mirror. uaeaussie Fayaz disagree if a man or women wants to do anything to their body that is their choice.Some people mind you go to the extremes ie: MJ a lot of people use the old society line all the time but really would you change your self because it is what society dictates????>Iam not old enough to need any thing well I hope not anyway but iam sure in the future if I do i know that I have the choice kanelli Personally, I wouldn't have plastic surgery unless I was in an accident or something and needed reconstructive surgery. I figure that I should be happy with the way I look. uaeaussie kanelli good to see you think that way but still dont see it as being an issue unless you take to the extreme.Its like saying to woman who wears padded bras they arent happy with their fig which is un true isnt they just want to look their best :?: :?: Dubai Knight Pedantics, boys and girls... Personally, the size of a ladies assets are not as important as whats inside her head. Yes, its a bonus 'If she is fit' and a we all need a little help from time to time to hold back the ravages of time and nature, but being obsessed with looking like a Californian Barbie Doll is a silly objective. Grow old...disgracefully! :lol: :lol: :lol: Knight uaeaussie DK she doesnt want to look like a barbie doll just a bit better why not i say Liban To do this when you are perfectly normal and not in discomfort or what have you is explained by the subconscience lack of confidence in one's self. If one has full self-confidence, one will not undertake such a proceedure unless one's life is threatened or simply, there is something with ones body causing discomfort (ie. Choco's pelvic moles :lol: ) kanelli Because any woman who spends more time cultivating her brain really doesn't pay attention to whether her breasts would look better a D cup rather than a B cup. Also, getting breasts done costs thousands of dirhams, when a padded bra costs a hundred dirhams - so those really aren't exactly the same thing. I suppose that being a slave to the cosmetics and beauty industry is similar to being a slave to plastic surgery - a lot of money goest to products and procedures year in and year out to try to fight aging and imperfection. I'd rather spend the money on trips to other countries, charity, and retirement funds. :D Liban
Exactly! arniegang I think thats a bit harsh K. If you were to apply that across the board then the issue of looking nice in nice clothes aslo apply. If the issue of cosmetics and surgery is that relevant to how one one want to look good or improve, then the same would apply to what clothes you wear, and whether or not the cost justifies the means ( and were they made in a slave factory in the far east) uaeaussie Arnie great point kanelli Choosing a top or pants etc. that suit your body type and therefore make you look good, is not the same thing as having a vacuum stuck under you skin to suck cellulite out, or having a knife used to cut you open and reshape whatever you want reshaped. kanelli I was also refering to cosmetics that promise to make you look half your age, when really they only provide superficial results. So many people spend a lot of money on those products! Diet and exercise are what help keep you young, not what is applied topically to the skin etc. A lot of those anti-aging products contain a cocktail of chemicals that are damaging to people's health. Chocoholic Liban, they were only my back around my bra line if you must know!!! I can see the for and against. But there are less invasive surgeries now and there are better things than Botox as well, some people totally overdo that. Interestingly enough 'cellulite' was 'invented' by the cosmetic industry as an excuse to put loads of products on the shelves which cost a fortune and do absolutely nothing. This kind of fat is absolutely natural and the orange peel effect is normally caused by fat cells getting caught in certain areas. Excercise, drinking plenty of water and massaging the areas will reduce it just as well as any cream will. arniegang
I still disagree K. What we/how we present ourselves is Vanity period. Personally speaking, i can draw no difference between wearing clothes that make you look good, whether you wax or shave your legs, use make up, have nice hair/differnt style or altering a part of yourself to make yourself look better. kanelli Well, we can't all walk around naked, so at some point we have to consider clothing choices. Some people spend hours grooming and dressing every day. Is that a good use of time? Some would say yes, some would say no. Some people spend much of their free time shopping for clothes and cosmetics, and they own lots of clothes and beauty products. This is not the norm for all people - some people buy what they need and spend the rest of their leisure hours playing sports, reading a book, volunteering, studying, etc. uaeaussie Kanelli I think you hit the point right on the head people can spend their money on what they want so what is the issue if a man wants to get rid of his love handles with a bit of lipo or a women wants to get new boobs so they look better in their clothes so what go for it if you dont want to again thats their choice kanelli
The difference is that the guy could get rid of his love handles by changing his diet and exercise, plus his muscles, joints, heart, lungs etc. would also improve in condition as well as the cosmetic benefits if he were to go that route instead of surgery.
The woman can suffer infections and problems with the implants, and many boobs jobs look fake, especially when you are old and you have perky boobs while the rest of you is sagging.
Nowadays people want instant gratification and they want more - they aren't as willing to work hard to see results or be happy with what they have. Even if something is dangerous to our health we would risk it for instant gratification. This is reflected in the whole plastic surgery issue. (At least in my mind it is.) arniegang
K first of all apologies for messing up your post, i realised i used "edit" instead of "quote". ( i can edit because of mod status ). It was my mistake entirely.
Agreed K, but none of it makes it right or wrong, and thats my point. It is unfair to compare what is right for one, it may not right for someone else. That equally applies to cosmetic surgery.
Being unhappy with a part of your body and having it sorted, is no different to being unhappy with your wardrobe or having hairy legs waxed/shaved.
If someone chooses to endure pain on the operating, it is for no one but themselves to comment. I know you like to use your spare time to do constructive things you may enjoy, others would consider that not for them and spend their time and money otherwise.
At the end of the day its horses for courses. Dubai Knight Agree with Kanelli and Arnie...however it's an extended syndrome of the "I want it, and I want it now!" society we are living in. A structured programme of diet and excercise can eventually get you the shape or physique you want, but it is hard work and can take time. Surgery is a comparatively instant salve to the self conscious. It can make someone feel mentally more confident if they think they look like the ideal in their own head, but the risks to health and the long term effects are not considered at the time. Biologically, the majority of topical lotions and potions available on the market are a waste of money as they have absolutely no effect. the skin is an impermeable membrane, it is designed to keep our essential bits in and unwanted substances out. Anything that therefore claims to have 'deep penetrating properties' or 'remove any wrinkles' or 'moisturise', is false. Lanolin is the main ingredient of most of these lotions and can make skin temporary more supple on the surface and costs about 5Dhs in any pharmacy. Age smoothing cream? My arse! However there are some benefits to society from plastic surgery: If we did not have liposuction, there would be no McDonalds milk shakes! And if we did not have breast implants, Jordan would not be keeping most of the spotty adolescent youth of the planet using tissues! :lol: :lol: :lol: Knight gamechee Grass doesnt grow in desert but ppl in dubai like it and it looks good... so if someone wants to get a boob-job done then its upto them. frankly its upto an individual. Both ways its unnatural and will cost a lot of money and then artificial is artificial after all. You got to take care of it and its not lasting. I wonder if they feel original? Havent tried though..... :D irish vanessa I dont understand why so many girls are obsessed with getting boob jobs????? :? :? My mother always said that more than a handful is a waste of space :wink: :wink: :wink: Seriously though...i dont believe that huge boobs are attractive.... Fair enough if you've got two fried eggs, but otherwise, why bother?? Tell me you agree gentlemen......????? :downtown: Chocoholic Anyone hear about the latest development in sugery to keep boobs uplifted? A surgeon in Brussels has started using a titanium 'shelve' which sort of cups the existing breast. It's bolted onto the rib cage and apparently he's had good results so far. Although kinda weird, when you're dead and buried all that will be left will be titanium shelves - hehehe - nice! uaeaussie IV no one is saying to get huge boobs my friend has sagging ones that are about half their normal size as they were before child birth all she wants is to go back to what they were before.Agree with you that massive ones arent the best and maybe when you get older you too may feel that you need a bit of improvement.In relation to men being able to get rid of love handles but diet change etc well i know a few who train and eat properly and still have issue when they are in mid 30s.I dont think a woman or man in there 20s should go for plastic surgery as not needed but late thirties and 40s yes go for it kanelli It is of course everyone's own individual choice as to whether they want to have plastic surgery or not. I made comments because comments and opinions were solicited in this thread. :D irish vanessa
Fair enough...id say ill probably be the first to get a boob lift when im older and saggier.... :) Dubai Knight
As long as you don't need one now...I'm happy!
Yes, more than a handful is a waste!
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Yes, late 30's and 40's is when gravity takes it's toll. You know they have botox coffee mornings here? Liban what is botox? uaeaussie Botox dont see a issue but doing it over a coffee well noooooooooo arniegang Botox (botulinum toxin A) is a cosmetic enhancement treatment designed to smooth out face and neck wrinkles. It is administered by injection and works by relaxing / paralysing specific muscles into which Botox is injected. This prevents the muscles from contracting and so smoothes out wrinkles in the overlying skin. GAB This is not BS but true-I knew of it but it also appeared last week or so in Emirates Today, I think. It just makes me laugh in a sadistic kind of sinster way-you go for a latte and come home with a permanent smile on your face......what must their husband's think? :lol: arniegang Its the "in thing" in UK too Gabs. Coffee mornings and Girlie nights in, invite the doc round uaeaussie Good one GABs I think some of the older snarly expat women you see walking around with their nose in the air do actually need it though then their hubbies may actually get a smile back on their face GAB Yes those old expat woman in their late 30's and 40's really are horrid...........................................................just taking the p#ss darling!! :lol: :lol: :lol: uaeaussie The ones I was talking about are the ones you see abusing the trolley boys etc for no real reason and just have this constant scowl on their face Chocoholic Amzing to think that Botox comes from a lethal toxin - great! Also they're now discovering problems with it, in people that have used it for years and years. They now end up having wrinkles in places you wouldn't normally have them as the face ends up using muscles it wouldn't normally use because the others are effectively frozen, so you end up using even more of the stuff. People go over board with it and get the freaky cat in the headlights look, it looks awful and plastic if over done. Plus to have botox injections in a non-sterile environment is not a very good idea. Many people are now using fillers which last a lot longer than Botox, which needs to be readministered every 3-6 months. Fillers are usually water or saline solution based and basically fill out the wrinkles and lines. These usually last for about 5 years. Of course you can go the the completely natural solution and have your arse fat sucked out and injected in your face - nice! Dubai Knight Of course you can go the the completely natural solution and have your arse fat sucked out and injected in your face - nice!
Oh no! I think I wet myself!!! This is the funniest thing I have heard in years....Arnie will be spilling his mocha all over the place at this one!
I am sure there is a joke about that somewhere!!!
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Knight arniegang i wonder if the saying "take yer head out yer arse" eminates from this :lol: :lol: Dubai Knight I thought it was the one about 'Hexactory' syndrome...as in the Japanese 'relationship' therapist who had a young lady attend his surgery complaining that she seemed unable find a suitable boyfriend. He proceeds to tell her to take off all her clothes and crawl on all fours to the door. He then makes her crawl all the way back again. "Yes," he says..."You have Hexactory Syndrome!" "What's that?" she asks, "You face...it look Hexactory like you arse!" Boom Boom!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Knight arniegang nice one DK heres a good un A dustman knock on a Japanese guys door and the Jap says "Harro" The dustman replies " where your bin?" "i bin on the loo" the Jap replies "no mate, i mean wheres your dustbin" "I just bin on the loo, i told you" says Jap "Look mate, where is your wheelie bin ? " The Jap says " Ho K, i wheelie bin havin a wank" castellano hi all ,, well,,, i am totally against it ,, " unless there is a crucial need for it " for example << a real problem with the look ,,, well ,, in that case its needed !!! in fact am agaist any kind of what i call "playing with the natural body that God has given you " ,,, now not from a riligous view . its from a human view ..... that kind of surgeries - i think - its so harmful ,maybe on the long term . for me i even dont take medicines enven ,, like when i have a flu or being sick normally ,, of course it doenst apply to serious diseases . anyway ,,its my point of view ,, here is some of the side effects of the plastic surgery .
Giving a person a positive outlook is one of the effects of cosmetic surgery. The side effects of cosmetic surgery depend on the type of cosmetic surgery that is done on a person. Pain, swelling, soreness, and skin insensitivity are some of the side effects of having an Abdominoplasty.
Apart from these side effects of cosmetic surgery there are also associated risks like bleeding under the skin and blood clot. Most of these surgeries are done under local anesthesia or general anesthesia. People can return to work in 3 or 4 weeks after the surgery.
Some of the side effects of cosmetic surgery involving breasts are soreness, lack of sensation or oversensitivity of the nipple. The associated risks are that the implants in case of breast enlargement are not permanent.
If there is any problem after the implant, there would be the need to remove the implant and then cure the problem. This is one of the risks involved in such surgery. Permanent scars, dryness in the breast skin, and swelling are some of the side effects of cosmetic surgery like breast lift.
Effects of cosmetic surgery like chemical peel have over sensitivity of the skin to sun. Tingling and throbbing are also found in these cases. Skin allergies are also possible which has to be treated separately. 1 week to 3 weeks is necessary for the recovery from chemical peels.
Effects of cosmetic surgery like fat or collagen injections are excess fullness and burning sensation in the operated area. Redness and swelling are also found.
In case of dermabrasion and ear surgery temporary tingling and throbbing is found. The other side effects of cosmetic surgery like ear surgery are like other cosmetic surgeries.
Young children undergoing ear surgery are given general anesthesia and the older people are either performed in local or general anesthesia. Recovery takes about a week for an ear surgery.
Tightness of lids, itching of eyes, and discomfort are the effects of cosmetic surgery like blepharoplasty (eyelid surgery). The patient undergoing this surgery can return to work in about a week or 10 days.
Risk of getting blind as a result of an eyelid surgery is very rare. There are many websites that give information on the different side effects of performing a cosmetic surgery. You can look to these sites for more information on cosmetic surgeries.
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uaeaussie Just to let you all know my friend has had her surgery done and both her and her hubby are over the moon about it.She is like a new person and it is like she has come out of hibernation.So in this case looks like it was worth it .She still has I think three weeks to go before she can stop wearing the bra thingy she has to wear but she is already out buying slinky little dresses getting ready.It has made so much of a difference it is amazing.She has also now thrown out all of her padded bras and brought some very small bikinis Dubai Knight
Damn! Shes married!!
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Knight Chocoholic Castanello, with any kind of surgery there are always risks, particularly where anaethestics are involved. Which is why it's so so important to research and find a good qualified doctor and talk to other people he/she has treated. Capsulted breast implants are a concern but the problem is not very common and yes they generally have to be replaced at some point in the future, but surgeons are making prgress in these fields every single day and coming up with new less invasive proceedures and ways to help the healing process. On that note you have to remember that every person is different and each body will react differently to surgery, some people heal very fast with no complications, others might take longer or have some problems along the way. There is no exact result. What I do disagree with it cosmetic surgery as a quick fix for people who're too lazy to do the work themselves, i.e. liposuction to remove fat which can be done through diet and exercise. uaeaussie DK that is what I thought when I saw her as well



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