navahopi
Hello all,
Am currently applying for a job as marketing manager of a big recreational site. Moving from France
Here are the conditions:
- Wage 10,000 AED/month
- Lodging allowance: 60, 000 AED/year
- Installation allowance: 10,000 AED
Utilities:
- 125 Euros/month (500 AED ) for gaz, water, electrity
- 120 Euros/month (450 AED) for transportation
Health card
One return flight to France per year
Might move to Dubai with girlfriend (have read about non-married couples), but still is it enough to live for 2 people?
Do you think it is a good package?
Thanks for advice
arniegang
sorry to say in my humble opinion - its a crap package, but i guess its only relative to the standard of living you currently or wish to enjoy.
navahopi
Let's stay an average standard of living...
navahopi
Thanks for replying though
XRW-147
Ditto to what Arnie said.
Where's the recreational facility located?
What area of Dubai are you planning to stay?
You'll get a loft in the newer part of Dubai but everything else there is pretty below par if you wish to maintain the same standard of living as you have now in France.
If you don't intend on saving then the salary will get you by. The utilities is adequate. You will want to ask for at least tripple of that transport allowance to get u an average car and be able to maintain it.
navahopi
The facility is located on Shiekh Zayed Road, exit 39 (4th interchange).
I have no idea about the different areas I could live in in Dubai.
Thanks for the tips anyway, I intend on saving a little bit though.
I think the wage is way too low.
You are saying that with the lodging allowance I could get a loft in that part of Dubai which I guess is quite expensive isnt it?
Can you advice a web site with Dubai maps please?
Thanks
Liban
- navahopi wrote:
Hello all,
Am currently applying for a job as marketing manager of a big recreational site. Moving from France
Here are the conditions:
- Wage 10,000 AED/month
- Lodging allowance: 60, 000 AED/year
- Installation allowance: 10,000 AED
Utilities:
- 125 Euros/month (500 AED ) for gaz, water, electrity
- 120 Euros/month (450 AED) for transportation
Health card
One return flight to France per year
Might move to Dubai with girlfriend (have read about non-married couples), but still is it enough to live for 2 people?
Do you think it is a good package?
Thanks for advice
Its a VERY modest package. Is your g/f (marry her before coming here) going to work also? If yes, then you will make by, if not then it will be very hard but NOT impossible.
Not everybody lives the lifestyle of the rich and famous here :)
XRW-147
If you want to be convenient to work then yes, ask for more accomodation as well. But as Liban said, you can live a very modest lifestyle here and people get by with much less that what you are being offered.
Having said that, just think in terms of relatives - ie what you might be accustomed to back in France. I don't know what you're used to in France but talking on averages unless you're considering a move for life experience ask your prospective employer for some slack on the housing and transport.
navahopi
Thanks for the tips!
I don't want to live like a rich and famous. I am not dreaming. Standard westerner standard of living pretty much summarizes my life here in France.
it is a good job opportunity but I am also thinking in terms of financial comfort. I mean what is the point of going expat if you loose money considering that I will be in couple in Dubai not alone and consequently you don't have the same needs.
XRW-147
- navahopi wrote:
I mean what is the point of going expat if you loose money
Bingo.
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navahopi
Are you an expat XRW?
XRW-147
Everyone who is not a GCC national is considered an 'expat' here mate. You could be making 900dhs/month and be an expat.
If you're asking whether I am on an 'expat package' then yes, I am.
navahopi
yes of course!
Palkid7
FYI navahopi,
You forgot about the car !! I mean U will need one !! so did u consider that also !? or they will be giving u one ?! :?: :?:
dbxsoul
Quote:
- Are you an expat XRW
did anyone see the piece in the paper last week about "foreign workers" inciting a stike/ riot??? was quiet funny i thought, what other type of workers do you get in the country??
XRW-147
- Palkid7 wrote:
FYI navahopi,
You forgot about the car !! I mean U will need one !! so did u consider that also !? or they will be giving u one ?! :?: :?:
What do you think a transport allowance is for matey?
XRW-147
- dbxsoul wrote:
did anyone see the piece in the paper last week about "foreign workers" inciting a stike/ riot??? was quiet funny i thought, what other type of workers do you get in the country??
Saw that, power to them I reckon. About time they let it be known they weren't happy. But throwing rocks through windows was a little over the top - will just draw negative label.
navahopi
Nop, no car.
Just transport allowance
Liban
- navahopi wrote:
Nop, no car.
Just transport allowance
Ummm... A transport allowance is for you to get a car... :wink:
navahopi
Yes indeed!
So I guess 120 Euros/month is very very low right?
Palkid7
Well, with the current fuel prices, 450 would be enough for the gasoline !!
So u need to buy a car, Say 50-60 thousad !! so, if u take a car loan !! say over 3-4 years, that's around 2000 Dhs less from the salary !! a month !!
just wanted u to keep that in ur mind !
:wink:
fayz
- navahopi wrote:
Yes indeed!
So I guess 120 Euros/month is very very low right?
well that depends, are you comfortable driving a yugo
Palkid7
- fayz wrote:
- navahopi wrote:
Yes indeed!
So I guess 120 Euros/month is very very low right?
well that depends, are you comfortable driving a yugo
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navahopi
I don't mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want it in green!! :lol:
fayz
hehehe, seriously though for your budget you would need to buy used. There are alot of cars out there and public transport isn't great so you'll need one.
I'd check out sites like , make sure you have them throughly inspected though there is a lot of crap out there.
Good luck and welcome to dubai.
XRW-147
Fayz, how did u get pics of the top secret feature car in the next FF3D movie?
arniegang
More to the point Fayz, how the fuk did you get a picture of my car??
:lol: :lol: :lol:
constantine
- XRW-147 wrote:
Fayz, how did u get pics of the top secret feature car in the next FF3D movie?
lmao...but seriously the trailer for the new fast furious in tokyo....wooo the cars are giving me a big you know what....i wanna wanna mustang!!...now...rant over!!!...btw still on the stage of learning to drive :wink:
XRW-147
- constantine wrote:
lmao...but seriously the trailer for the new fast furious in tokyo....wooo the cars are giving me a big you know what....i wanna wanna mustang!!...now...rant over!!!...btw still on the stage of learning to drive :wink:
Mustangs and Tokyo just don't go together, sorry Conno.
Give me Godzilla, now I'd bat to that!
dbxsoul
kind type of car i would expect gabs to be driving :lol:
are those little furry toys i can see on the back window ledge???
XRW-147
Maite, u must have microscopic eyes to be able to see anything through that glass :lol:
Concord
Don't forget you'll have to furnish the place. And "furniture" may include kitchen appliances as many of the places come bare. So figure a yearly amount and divede by 12, etc.
navahopi
Yep
So that makes 5 000 AED per month lodging allowance and that is already only to cover the rent right?
Furniture is 10 000 AED so that makes 800 AED per month which is nothing right?
Plus I have read that landlord ask for one year rent at the start, is that true?
dbxsoul
10k will get you the bare basics for furniture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i mean bare basics.
basic prices for some lower end items are:
stove 1,400
fridge 1,000 although you'll probably need 2
washing machine 1,400
dryer 1,000
tv 1,000
dvd 800-1,000
living room furniture chairs/ couch 3,500
(depends on the brand though)
rental is normaly divided into three pdc's split over the year, they may also ask for a security deposit up front. so you don't pay all the rent in one go, but you commit yourself to paying it. don't bounce the cheque or you'll end up in sh.t
arniegang
- dbxsoul wrote:
kind type of car i would expect gabs to be driving :lol:
are those little furry toys i can see on the back window ledge???
Soooooooooooo funny Soul, i was gonna post something similar, but glad you did, now she will give you the crap
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Concord
Nava,
On the other hand, you may be able to find a place that alllows you to save lots of money. Think of "budget accomodations" or "hostels (europe)" These are known here as "labor camps" (for workers as most of us in the forum are);
Pro's
No Need to purchase your own car
Don't have to buy furniture
No real estate broker's fee (10% of annual rent)
Save lot of money
Transportation included (although the Air Conditioning may be questionable) - but it is a large fleet of buses.
Lots of people for you to meet.
No need for a dry cleaning or laundry bill (you can wear the same clothes for a while - at least the same color)
No real state brokarage fee (10% of annual rent)
Con's
Your neibhors may not necessary speak either French or English
The bus schedules may not be that frequent to your destination (typically every 12 hours)
There may not be much privacy (3224 people per average size bedroom)
Can't complaint much to management - 1 complaint = one flight home (or a beating - don't know).
Internet or web sites service may have more to do with fishing nets or spiders than your familiarity with those terms is thus far.
Satellite and cable probably limited - to nothing (star gazing maybe!)
Choice of supermarkets probably limited.
Probably no conjugal visists (but your girfriend may be able to find similar accomodations)
Bottom line: Get more money!
dbxsoul
ha-ha-ha - good one concord.
funny, but at the same time sad and realistic.
this is how about 80% of dubai's "expatriat" population live!
does kind of put things in perspective
Liban
- navahopi wrote:
Yes indeed!
So I guess 120 Euros/month is very very low right?
Quite...
You may have to dish out another 200AED (50 EU) for a Peugeot 206.
navahopi
Thanks Concord!
I think you all agree that it is definitely a crap package right?
dbxsoul
i'd like to put the package into perspective.
i came to dubai 5 years ago and got a similar deal. i was able to have a good/ comfortable lifestyle on this, and saved quiet a bit of money!
now, due to the depressed dollar and recent monetary increases in most facets of life (in dubai) i definitly would not be able to survive on this package - and this is without any dramatic changes in my standard of living!
navahopi
very very useful info dxb.
Thanks a million
constantine
- XRW-147 wrote:
- constantine wrote:
lmao...but seriously the trailer for the new fast furious in tokyo....wooo the cars are giving me a big you know what....i wanna wanna mustang!!...now...rant over!!!...btw still on the stage of learning to drive :wink:
Mustangs and Tokyo just don't go together, sorry Conno.
Give me Godzilla, now I'd bat to that!
have ya seen the trailer... :lol:
XRW-147
- constantine wrote:
have ya seen the trailer... :lol:
I did mate, but still GTR34 V-Spec... king of the roads
fayz
- XRW-147 wrote:
- constantine wrote:
have ya seen the trailer... :lol:
I did mate, but still GTR34 V-Spec... king of the roads
are you still looking for a track car???
Val
hi
i will be moving to Dubai within the next few months and i would like to know what are the average cost of life there. I need a clean appartment for one person in a nice building with security. Also, i would like an avergae car (peugeot)..Can you tell me how much will it cost me monthly..
tx;)
Concord
Val
I suggest a search within the forum (and see above). Loads of previous suggestions. In summary I would say that an average apartment/car is comparable to any large (first world) city around the world (on average). Of course it depends on what you are looking for. I suppose you could share "bed space" for 500 dirhams a month or get a villa for 250,000 dirhams. Lots of choices on where to live and what to rent (just depends on what you are willing, or can afford to pay). No great deals!
Obviously flat sharing (if that is an option) may be the best way for you to go.
XRW-147
- fayz wrote:
are you still looking for a track car???
Fayz, habibi, pretty much found 'the one' mate. Once I can move the porka it will be all systems go.
fayz
kewl 8)