alexandra
today i was with my friends and one of the boys saied: i will never understand what women want from us, if u r sweet and kind, they will always go for the tough and sometimes even rude one. lol after this all the boys started to complain about their similar experience. the girls reaction, as expected, was immediate. so boys, let us know what "unsolved mistery" have u came across untill now about women, and ladies, let's help the gentlemen complete the puzzle, shall we? and let us share with them also what we think is so strange about them or their reactions!
:wink:
Wafaey
The problem is that women them selves don't know what they want :?
And if someday a guy managed to find it out then he will get Nobel Peace Prize :lol: :lol:
alexandra
- Wafaey wrote:
The problem is that women them selves don't know what they want :?
And if someday a guy managed to find it out then he will get Nobel Peace Prize :lol: :lol:
lol Wafaey, u really think so? what about the situation when women know what they go for it and discover that the kind and sensitive guy they wanted changed into a selfish and insensitive. aren't men a bit resposable for this confussion? :roll:
Wafaey
- alexandra wrote:
- Wafaey wrote:
The problem is that women them selves don't know what they want :?
And if someday a guy managed to find it out then he will get Nobel Peace Prize :lol: :lol:
lol Wafaey, u really think so? what about the situation when women know what they go for it and discover that the kind and sensitive guy they wanted changed into a selfish and insensitive. aren't men a bit resposable for this confussion? :roll:
And what about when women get what they want and then discover that what they wanted isn't infact what they need :!: :!: :!:
constantine
tend to agree with wafaey(not bcoz he's a bloke)....want and need are 2 very different things...anyways if you did understand a woman totally...which is next to impossible...however enlightened you are...what would be the fun in that?...its all the quirks and little things that make them endearing infuriating engaging and totally trusting towards us...i like the unpredictability factor that a woman brings to a relationship...at the same time the cool calmness in a crisis situation...
Intimacy
- alexandra wrote:
i will never understand what women want from us, if u r sweet and kind, they will always go for the tough and sometimes even rude one.
Whahaha... thats damn true...
they 96% of ladies stick to the one who treat them like Sh@t (with all respect ladies) .. i dont know.. i think its their crazyness about taming the guy..
i know some girls who are abused/ very badly treated by their husbands/Bf and they are still saying : No no.. he still loves me.. i cant leave him.. ohhhh.. i cant imagine my life without him :D
Its funny.. ridiculous.. but true..
Intimacy
- alexandra wrote:
lol Wafaey, u really think so? what about the situation when women know what they go for it and discover that the kind and sensitive guy they wanted changed into a selfish and insensitive. aren't men a bit resposable for this confussion? :roll:
Well.. such people never to be considered as MEN.. they are males who were running after s.e.x.. and once they got it.. then u will see the real face. :) .. we are taking about MALES here exclusively.
Corcovado
- Intimacy wrote:
- alexandra wrote:
i will never understand what women want from us, if u r sweet and kind, they will always go for the tough and sometimes even rude one.
Whahaha... thats damn true...
they 96% of ladies stick to the one who treat them like Sh@t (with all respect ladies) .. i dont know.. i think its their crazyness about taming the guy..
i know some girls who are abused/ very badly treated by their husbands/Bf and they are still saying : No no.. he still loves me.. i cant leave him.. ohhhh.. i cant imagine my life without him :D
Its funny.. ridiculous.. but true..
i have to disagree here ,only woman with low self-esteem stick to jerks ...any other woman wants a descent man who treats her right ,take care of her and Respect her ...
Intimacy
- Corcovado wrote:
i have to disagree here ,only woman with low self-esteem stick to jerks ...any other woman wants a descent man who treats her right ,take care of her and Respect her ...
Exactly.. thats what they all say.. when they found this loving respcting guy.. they wont opt to stick to him.. they will choose that guy.. who just kick the sh@t of them.. i have seen that manytimes happening with people all the time :D
irish vanessa
I agree that women are a mystery...even to themselves :wink: :wink:
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Chocoholic
I think all women crave the guy who will protect and look after them and be faithful and loving, but on the other hand damn we like the bad boys, it's the excitment and many women will get the kick out of trying to be the one to tame the wild boys, which of course very very rarely works.
In abusive relationships, sadly many women confuse bad and abusive behaviour with feeling and love - sad and strange I know but very true. And yes it has a lot to do with self-esteem, many feel that if they leave they will never find anyone else and many even feel that they deserve to be treated badly, seen it so many times.
I also will say that the guy who can read a womans mind and giver her everything she wants AND needs would be treated like a god!
Plus don't forget it's all to do with hormones and pre-programmed behaviour, our animal instict if you like. Women will automatically seek out the strongest and more powerful man to father her children - goes back to the survival of the fittest - the dominant male is always more attractive, but not necessarily the most protective or caring.
It's really interesting.
XRW-147
The fact that people have different opionions and different ways at looking at things makes it that much more difficult as a third party to judge. What may seem obvious to an onlooker is often 'overlooked' or is reasonable to the person directly involved. You never know a person until you have lived with them and even if you are exposed to the negative parts of a person's life obviously there is something keeping that person in their situation - be it love, fear or commitment.
Palkid7
- Chocoholic wrote:
I also will say that the guy who can read a womans mind and giver her everything she wants AND needs would be treated like a god!
A man who says that he understands women 100%, is a big fat liar !! :lol:
Don't u guys agree with me ?!
XRW-147
- Chocoholic wrote:
Plus don't forget it's all to do with hormones and pre-programmed behaviour, our animal instict if you like. Women will automatically seek out the strongest and more powerful man to father her children - goes back to the survival of the fittest - the dominant male is always more attractive, but not necessarily the most protective or caring.
When did it become a woman's choice? I thought men were programmed to knock out (charm) our chosen mate with a club (courting) and whisk her away on our broad, manly, ape-like shoulders (marriage).
alexandra
- Intimacy wrote:
- alexandra wrote:
i will never understand what women want from us, if u r sweet and kind, they will always go for the tough and sometimes even rude one.
Whahaha... thats damn true...
they 96% of ladies stick to the one who treat them like Sh@t (with all respect ladies) .. i dont know.. i think its their crazyness about taming the guy..
i know some girls who are abused/ very badly treated by their husbands/Bf and they are still saying : No no.. he still loves me.. i cant leave him.. ohhhh.. i cant imagine my life without him :D
Its funny.. ridiculous.. but true..
unfortunatelly i knew cases of abuse and i thnk it's not funny at all...a man abuses a woman when he takes advantage of her weekness, when he feels he cant control her completly, when he thinks he is superior only by the power of a punch. i knew women abused by words, or even sexually, and they became affraid to accept it and to fight to punish him, because normally after abusing he will come and say: i love u, i will never do it again etc. after an abuse she becomes emitonally week and without any force to fight back she will go on hoping that he will change, which will never be happened.
people never change and love blinds us sometimes, we become to see he/she has no bad things, being perfect...after sometime, when the euphoria fades away, the real character will be shown or maybe that we r tring to hard to look perfect in the eyes of each other and eventually we get tired of pretending- and troubles step in
alexandra
or even fun- even sexually abused
Chocoholic
- XRW-147 wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Plus don't forget it's all to do with hormones and pre-programmed behaviour, our animal instict if you like. Women will automatically seek out the strongest and more powerful man to father her children - goes back to the survival of the fittest - the dominant male is always more attractive, but not necessarily the most protective or caring.
When did it become a woman's choice? I thought men were programmed to knock out (charm) our chosen mate with a club (courting) and whisk her away on our broad, manly, ape-like shoulders (marriage).
X! Who said anything about marriage! I'm purely talking about offspring here. Look at nature, the female of any species will only mate with the strongest of the pride or pack i.e. the dominant male, because he's fought his way to be top dog and therefor is strong and has good genes. The weak are mostly rejected as their offspring would be considered also weak.
Torvalds
For this topic, one thing comes to mind when you mention the word women. Its absence of 'logic'.
Chocoholic
Excuse me! I think women have a far more logical brain than men! And common sense too. MEn do the stupidest things. I'm telling you if women ruled the world, you wouldn't have half the problems there are today.
It's been well and truly proven that women make better business and investment decisions and are better at running companies.
Men just can't multi-task at all! Doing more than one thing at once is a virtual impossibility for guys!
Torvalds
- Chocoholic wrote:
- XRW-147 wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Plus don't forget it's all to do with hormones and pre-programmed behaviour, our animal instict if you like. Women will automatically seek out the strongest and more powerful man to father her children - goes back to the survival of the fittest - the dominant male is always more attractive, but not necessarily the most protective or caring.
When did it become a woman's choice? I thought men were programmed to knock out (charm) our chosen mate with a club (courting) and whisk her away on our broad, manly, ape-like shoulders (marriage).
X! Who said anything about marriage! I'm purely talking about offspring here. Look at nature, the female of any species will only mate with the strongest of the pride or pack i.e. the dominant male, because he's fought his way to be top dog and therefor is strong and has good genes. The weak are mostly rejected as their offspring would be considered also weak.
Are you implying that the big man always gets the girl?
That's not always the case my dear. In this age, the smart guy gets the girl and most of the time, the smart guys have the dough.
Humans are totally different from the animal kingdom. Why do you think we are the only species capable if thinking? You're talking about animal behavior here.
alexandra
- Chocoholic wrote:
Excuse me! I think women have a far more logical brain than men! And common sense too. MEn do the stupidest things. I'm telling you if women ruled the world, you wouldn't have half the problems there are today.
It's been well and truly proven that women make better business and investment decisions and are better at running companies.
Men just can't multi-task at all! Doing more than one thing at once is a virtual impossibility for guys!
well saied Chocoholic! :lol:
Torvalds
If women are so smart, why is the world still dominated by men? First man on the moon, fastest man on earth, strongest man on earth, man of the century, etc.
Who is stopping you women from doing it? Not to mention, your kind outnumber us extensively. Our kind already suffered losses on every war on earth.
alexandra
- Torvalds wrote:
For this topic, one thing comes to mind when you mention the word women. Its absence of 'logic'.
well Torvalds, u claim to have more logic than the "topic" women. just one thing i have to mention for ur general knowledge: a woman gave birth to u, fed u, raised up so u can be able to come today in the forum an say that : pretty logical, don't u think?
alexandra
- Torvalds wrote:
If women are so smart, why is the world still dominated by men? First man on the moon, fastest man on earth, strongest man on earth, man of the century, etc.
Who is stopping you women from doing it?
behind a succesfull man, there is an inteligent woman, have u heared of it?
a woman bigest succes is to have a great family, to be able to raise her kids in a proper manner and as they grow up, to put in them values and principles. all wise and succesfull men have never forgotten to thank, the mother, the wife etc who was with them and brought them support and careing. a woman can do all this and still havea great career!
Torvalds
I said for this topic, right? And for this topic alone. Anything else is out of the question.
Alexandra, stick to the topic. Don't fall out of line.
We're supposed to talk about logic.
XRW-147
- Chocoholic wrote:
X! Who said anything about marriage! I'm purely talking about offspring here. Look at nature, the female of any species will only mate with the strongest of the pride or pack i.e. the dominant male, because he's fought his way to be top dog and therefor is strong and has good genes. The weak are mostly rejected as their offspring would be considered also weak.
You've got it all wrong Chocco - I'm half agreeing with your theory. My point was we aren't programmed to let u choose, we just take and only the strongest are able to 'take' what they want ;)
alexandra
- Torvalds wrote:
I said for this topic, right? And for this topic alone. Anything else is out of the question.
i am sorry but it seemed to me that u were way out of the topic, my mistake if i got u wrong :)
Torvalds
- Chocoholic wrote:
Excuse me! I think women have a far more logical brain than men! And common sense too. MEn do the stupidest things. I'm telling you if women ruled the world, you wouldn't have half the problems there are today.
It's been well and truly proven that women make better business and investment decisions and are better at running companies.
Men just can't multi-task at all! Doing more than one thing at once is a virtual impossibility for guys!
Did anyone notice that people react violently when they are threatened?
....And totally getting emotional while at it.
alexandra
- Torvalds wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Excuse me! I think women have a far more logical brain than men! And common sense too. MEn do the stupidest things. I'm telling you if women ruled the world, you wouldn't have half the problems there are today.
It's been well and truly proven that women make better business and investment decisions and are better at running companies.
Men just can't multi-task at all! Doing more than one thing at once is a virtual impossibility for guys!
Did anyone notice that people react violently when they are threatened?
....And totally getting emotional while at it.
well it seems to me that u r the one who is not sticking to the topic and for sure u make no sense, not to say that u have no logic!!!!!!!!
Torvalds
Its not addressed to you in case you have'nt noticed. That's why I quoted, girl.
alexandra
- Torvalds wrote:
Its not addressed to you in case you have'nt noticed. That's why I quoted, girl.
in case u didn,t notice boy, it was in the forum and i think i am free to speak my mind or to express an opinion about a post, if it was ment to be private u have the option to use private message, boy!!!
Torvalds
OK, you got me dead to rights. You can express your opinion on any post.
But anyway, by replying to my post does'nt put you anywhere within the topic isn't it, girl?
Chocoholic
Torvalds, there's a really simple answer to your question, and that's because women have always been put down by guys. Don't forget that men have always stopped women coming into positions of power, women still get paid much less even if they hold the same position as a man. There is still a big inequality between the s.e.x.e.s whic sucks big time. Many men, just lookm around in the UAE!!!! Still feel a woman's place is in the home. And by the way don't forget that career minded women in many sectors are penalised for wanting a family, we hold full time jobs and still do all the stuff at home, many men still do their job, go home and expect dinner to be on the table, the kids to be looked after etc etc - hello!!!!
Also it's now been scientifically proven that women's bodies are more suitable for space travel than a mans, so I expect all long range and deep space missions to be crewed soley by women.
We still have to fight to get on an even footing with guys in many areas which shouldn't be the case. I work in an industry that is still very much dominated by guys, and feel I have to work twice as hard to get the same recognition, it's very hard and the sooner narrow minded guys like you realise this fact the better.
Dubai Knight
Also it's now been scientifically proven that women's bodies are more suitable for space travel than a mans, so I expect all long range and deep space missions to be crewed soley by women.
Excellent! So once a month we should blast you off into space until you become sensible and reasonable again?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Knight
Chocoholic
Oh yeah DK, maybe we should inject you all with female hormones so you can feel what it's like to go through searing pain every month where it feels like your womb is about to explode, chronic back pain, hot flashes, feeling moody and no-one seems to give a sh**! You're legs go all achey and you can be doubled up in so much pain that you just can't get out of bed and then some knob head bloke expects you to carry on as normal - you guys have no clue what this stuff feels like. Then if you're really unlucky you might get this more than once a month - ggggrrrrrr!
As you can see really not the best time to get into this, I just want to smack someone! :twisted:
Dubai Knight
- Chocoholic wrote:
Oh yeah DK, maybe we should inject you all with female hormones so you can feel what it's like to go through searing pain every month where it feels like your womb is about to explode, chronic back pain, hot flashes, feeling moody and no-one seems to give a sh**! You're legs go all achey and you can be doubled up in so much pain that you just can't get out of bed and then some knob head bloke expects you to carry on as normal - you guys have no clue what this stuff feels like. Then if you're really unlucky you might get this more than once a month - ggggrrrrrr!
As you can see really not the best time to get into this, I just want to smack someone! :twisted:
Ah...bad timing on my behalf eh! Can I get you some chocolate and a nice cup of tea or shall I just fcuk off now, boil my nuts in oil and stick carving knives in my eyes?
:shock:
Knight
Chocoholic
I'm still working my way through easter eggs and starting to feel even more fat than I do already - :cry:
alexandra
- Torvalds wrote:
OK, you got me dead to rights. You can express your opinion on any post.
But anyway, by replying to my post does'nt put you anywhere within the topic isn't it, girl?
let me tell u something else, boy! u were the one who started to talk in a different topic than the one posted, and i remeber it cause i posted it, read it again if u have any doubts! i will no longer reply to ur "logic" lines as all i can get from u is a huge feeling of frustration- maybe due to the fact that u have no strong and valid arguments to support ur ideea.
Torvalds
What did you say? Can you say it in english. I don't understand.
Chocoholic
Oh shut the hell up the pair of you before I bang your heads together.
alexandra
- Chocoholic wrote:
Oh shut the hell up the pair of you before I bang your heads together.
Chocoholic if u dislike so much our posts skip it, it's not a must for u to read it!
Torvalds
- Chocoholic wrote:
Also it's now been scientifically proven that women's bodies are more suitable for space travel than a mans, so I expect all long range and deep space missions to be crewed soley by women.
You can go to space anytime you want. You'll find nothing in there but tell us guys if you reached another inhabited planet. There might be girls there, you know. For now, I'd rather go to an Island Paradise where there are plenty of pretty gals.
Chocoholic
Well if you're going to go back and forth with inane banter, take it to fight club - or get a room.
It was an intersting topic with some interesting replies then you two just blabber on between yourselves.
Logic is not always best, sometimes you have to think outside the box!
alexandra
- Chocoholic wrote:
Well if you're going to go back and forth with inane banter, take it to fight club - or get a room.
thank u so much for the advice...what would we do without it? :shock:
Chocoholic
Sarcasm does not become you.
alexandra
- Chocoholic wrote:
Sarcasm does not become you.
Whatever.... :lol:
Chocoholic
- alexandra wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Sarcasm does not become you.
Whatever.... :lol:
Oh is that a 'whaaaat eeevvvaaaa!' with a hand held up and a side to side of the head?
alexandra
- Chocoholic wrote:
- alexandra wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Sarcasm does not become you.
Whatever.... :lol:
Oh is that a 'whaaaat eeevvvaaaa!' with a hand held up and a side to side of the head?
take it as u want it, it's not like i give it to much importance! and in the future, when u really fell like banging sombodys head try urs first! and that's all i have to say. final DOT
Douce`Amere
- Torvalds wrote:
You can go to space anytime you want. You'll find nothing in there but tell us guys if you reached another inhabited planet. There might be girls there, you know. For now, I'd rather go to an Island Paradise where there are plenty of pretty gals.
Go ahead, Torvalds... to Island Paradise
Intimacy
- alexandra wrote:
- Intimacy wrote:
- alexandra wrote:
i will never understand what women want from us, if u r sweet and kind, they will always go for the tough and sometimes even rude one.
Whahaha... thats damn true...
they 96% of ladies stick to the one who treat them like Sh@t (with all respect ladies) .. i dont know.. i think its their crazyness about taming the guy..
i know some girls who are abused/ very badly treated by their husbands/Bf and they are still saying : No no.. he still loves me.. i cant leave him.. ohhhh.. i cant imagine my life without him :D
Its funny.. ridiculous.. but true..
unfortunatelly i knew cases of abuse and i thnk it's not funny at all...a man abuses a woman when he takes advantage of her weekness, when he feels he cant control her completly, when he thinks he is superior only by the power of a punch. i knew women abused by words, or even fun, and they became affraid to accept it and to fight to punish him, because normally after abusing he will come and say: i love u, i will never do it again etc. after an abuse she becomes emitonally week and without any force to fight back she will go on hoping that he will change, which will never be happened.
people never change and love blinds us sometimes, we become to see he/she has no bad things, being perfect...after sometime, when the euphoria fades away, the real character will be shown or maybe that we r tring to hard to look perfect in the eyes of each other and eventually we get tired of pretending- and troubles step in
Thats not what i meant.. what u just have mentioned is not funny.. but maybe you didnt get what i was trying to say there...
I was saying although the girls in the situations i came across used to be abused.. but they keep sticking to those men.. and kept saying that he is a good man.. and he still loves her... as she is ignoring what happened of fooling her slef.. which made me wonder about how such girls do think!!!
kanelli
Well, there are a lot of reasons why a woman stays. If the men are good manipulators it is easy for them to maintain control over a woman they have broken down. If a woman's self esteem is low she will think that no one else will have her, she'll be poor and disadvantaged on her own, the families will be angry at her for giving up on the relationship, her children will be angry or disadvantaged if the relationship breaks up, etc.
alexandra
- Intimacy wrote:
- alexandra wrote:
- Intimacy wrote:
- alexandra wrote:
i will never understand what women want from us, if u r sweet and kind, they will always go for the tough and sometimes even rude one.
Whahaha... thats damn true...
they 96% of ladies stick to the one who treat them like Sh@t (with all respect ladies) .. i dont know.. i think its their crazyness about taming the guy..
i know some girls who are abused/ very badly treated by their husbands/Bf and they are still saying : No no.. he still loves me.. i cant leave him.. ohhhh.. i cant imagine my life without him :D
Its funny.. ridiculous.. but true..
unfortunatelly i knew cases of abuse and i thnk it's not funny at all...a man abuses a woman when he takes advantage of her weekness, when he feels he cant control her completly, when he thinks he is superior only by the power of a punch. i knew women abused by words, or even fun, and they became affraid to accept it and to fight to punish him, because normally after abusing he will come and say: i love u, i will never do it again etc. after an abuse she becomes emitonally week and without any force to fight back she will go on hoping that he will change, which will never be happened.
people never change and love blinds us sometimes, we become to see he/she has no bad things, being perfect...after sometime, when the euphoria fades away, the real character will be shown or maybe that we r tring to hard to look perfect in the eyes of each other and eventually we get tired of pretending- and troubles step in
Thats not what i meant.. what u just have mentioned is not funny.. but maybe you didnt get what i was trying to say there...
I was saying although the girls in the situations i came across used to be abused.. but they keep sticking to those men.. and kept saying that he is a good man.. and he still loves her... as she is ignoring what happened of fooling her slef.. which made me wonder about how such girls do think!!!
sorry for getting u missunderstood but in the scan reading of ur post i thought u were making fun of it! my mistake
still i agree with what u saied: i dont know how they can think like that if they stay and accept to be humiliated and abused....maybe no thnking at all!
Douce`Amere
- alexandra wrote:
today i was with my friends and one of the boys saied: i will never understand what women want from us, if u r sweet and kind, they will always go for the tough and sometimes even rude one. lol after this all the boys started to complain about their similar experience. the girls reaction, as expected, was immediate. so boys, let us know what "unsolved mistery" have u came across untill now about women, and ladies, let's help the gentlemen complete the puzzle, shall we? and let us share with them also what we think is so strange about them or their reactions!
:wink:
She /woman/ wants to be a temptation, a temptress, she wants to hunt, to play & win in the game of seduction... But ask her "What you gonna do with him when you win his heart?" - She doesn`t have a reply.
A man who is "sweet `n kind" is not that object, & so she loose an interest to him or even get scared.
It happens when a woman is not ready to a serious relation but hardly she realizes it being a decent woman. Sometimes it has its roots in a low self-esteem & a woman still behave a hunter to conquer his attention, love etc. during all their relationship. You guys may become a winner... but if you play. Go on easily, maybe she`ll get ready...
- alexandra wrote:
...and let us share with them also what we think is so strange about them or their reactions!
Same story with the guys... I met guys who sincerely told me "You are TOO good". It comes that to be good is bad! Weird, not?.. Some of them continued: "...you are a girl for a marriage... but I`m not ready to that" or "I want to give you a star from the skies... but I CANNOT anything! A girl of a higher status is not to me".
Finally, most of succesful relations start as fun, as a /truthful/ game, from flirt & everything nice.
irish vanessa
- Torvalds wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Also it's now been scientifically proven that women's bodies are more suitable for space travel than a mans, so I expect all long range and deep space missions to be crewed soley by women.
You can go to space anytime you want. You'll find nothing in there but tell us guys if you reached another inhabited planet. There might be girls there, you know. For now, I'd rather go to an Island Paradise where there are plenty of pretty gals.
Torvalds is a huge hypocrite....
One minute women are illogical and inferior, the next he dreams of an island full of ladies...
As i said before, and at this rate ill say it again - LOSER!!
Torvalds
You're just so pissed off from me. Just admit you really can't do anything about your frustration. Can you come up with something else. It's boring!!!
arniegang
she does have a point though Torvalds you post such crap
Torvalds
Crap!!! Crap!!! Crap!!! Crap!!!
But that's what Vanessa wants. She does'nt want to get annoyed.
So she just goes for crap!!!
sniper420
If I would have the power to ban I would have seriously banned bunch of ppl. Gosh! This shows ur maturity a simple question turned into flame war. As long as sniper420 is the mod this flame war will be extinguished :violent3:
Locking in the name of Venus planet - Torvalds dream planet .....mine too.!