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love... money... deceit


weary_heart
thanks maaaad. i would really post an update soon.
zam Yeah like how? since he is a pig, he might have been slaughtered by her! :lol: Sparrow
she might have killed him... :lol: zam Any update? :lol: MaaaD just read your post weary_heart and i feel for ya, best of luck you got good advice and i stress on involving a lawyer and/or CID. Jeevan unforgivable, collect proof against him , call the cops and get him outta here. what he did has no excuse. weary_heart I just wanted to share my love experience here in Dubai... I broke up with my bf of 3 and a half years almost 6 months ago. Until now, i still feel im stuck with him. Im confused whether because of unsettled money matters or just because im plain stupid and madly in love. It's a very complicated relationship... We are supposed to get married this coming September. Last October, I took a loan from the bank and gave him the money for establishing our business. Our relationship started to shatter very fast. We started arguing about money, decision-making etc... his family and all... BTW, most of the staff are hisfamily and I was not even informed, I just knew it when his brothers arrived in Dubai and started working with us. Then, when I started to question the money, why, how, all the things regarding the business... he started to become cold to me. Was telling me that I cannot accept his family... Our relationship shattered just like the WTC in NY... February - he told me he wanted us to separate, the next day after he left the country for his work-related trip March - when he came back and told me his family refused us to separate and we will go on to our wedding plan, just after 3 days he left again and a week after he went home to his country. April - he came back to Dubai, to my surprise, he is already engaged, not engaged but finally engaged! May - he lost his job and started to see me again almost everyday. just like the good old days, I can say. June - he went home again, for a good vacation he said, when he came back here again, I just learned from his family that he is married! Perfect, right! I learned that the date for our 'engagement party', which didnt happen obviously and is his wedding day. But the saddest part is the financial matter. I am left with the loan and credits. I am running after him because of my money and the biggest mistake is that I cannot have the business because he had placed it under his name only. Now, I cannot remember the good things we had when we were together. It's very to recall even one of them. Everything has been over-shadowed by the troubles he has caused me. Can anyone tell me if this is forgivable? He is my failure... Ive never had any money problems in my entire life... And nobody had hurt me as much as this... I felt he deceived me... all of them deceived me... zam :( what a pig! :evil: He doesnt deserve your love or your honey! errmm I mean weariness ... Stay right here in this Forum..for sure you will hear different kinds of insights to your situation. 8) To answer your Q above...if its still forgivable? Yeah I think so but just not yet...maybe after gazillion years it will be. :) arniegang geez a difficult one and i feel for you. Sometimes, the mistakes we learn in life the quickest, are the ones we "pay for" both at financial and personal cost. On reading your post you seem to have "head and heart" decisions. Sometimes in life we just have to walk away putting the "cost" behind us. I am sure there will be other valuble advice to come from other forumers. Respect to you for being brave enough to seek help and advise, and talking about it. ^ian^
Unforgivable. Ring the police and accuse him of being a trickster. You will find they should actually be sympathetic to your cause, so long as you can prove you had no improper relations, so-to-speak.
Drag him through the courts and get him deported with a big black stamp.

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zam Guys what your saying can be easily said than done. How on earth can he nail that b@stard :?: Any idea :?: Without any paperwork or proof :?: ^ian^
She should go to CID with her story. It is their job to assemble the proof, or at least investigate.
It would help if she knows someone in the Police that could ensure something happens. raidah money brings out the worst in ppl. that is why its never good totally depending or having smbody totally depend on you. as for you still possibly being in love with him...they say love is blind. id say true love is not only not blind, but it opens your eyes. since u have been blind and fooled by this guy, obviously it wasnt true love. i call this type of men parasite. so forget about ur feelings toward him, most probably it is only ur hurt ego that cannot accept that u have been cheated and is trying to find excuses for him. like u said it urself, now the most important is to fix this financial mess you are in. and learn from this experience not to ever trust anybody without taking precautions. gLoBalTeCh
he is expert, and she is innocent. she cant collect any proof against him. he wil play game again. u need to take ur closed friends help to take any action. its time to use ur mind not heart. weary_heart yeah my brain is telling me that no way this guy deserves me... but what to do now, ive been cheated.. but to tell you, somehow deep down in my heart, im telling my self that Im still lucky becasue Im not the woman who will be him forever... and imarrying him might be biggest mistake. maybe the only reason why im stuck with him is becasue of the unsettled money issues. he is always telling me that he'll pay me so and so... i dont know when until I finally get tired calling him hundred times, literally. and Ive been bugging his family in his country as well. and what a shame they found out that their son is a crook. a 'parasite' is far better than him. i ran out of description for him. i once tell him this: "Before, I thought you're just worth 50,000. And then after, whenever I see your face, I saw 5 dirhams. But now, i dont know anymore because even 5 fils is too expensive for you. You're so cheap!" I just wish he'll end up in jail for he has so many people that he swindled. Anyhow, I know God is fair. Someday, somehow, he will pay the price that he took from me and even much more. Im sure. ^ian^
Crap. She should contact the CID, and not be put off by wrong advice like this. Jeevan
Whatever by hook or by crook, with friends help or CID's help, but without proof nothings gonna happen.
I know its easier said than done, but imagine urself in her position do u think u would have let go? nope u would have fought back. thats all. fight back and teach him a lesson.
Jerry weary_heart but how will i contact the CID or police? the first thing they asked me is if I have any paper that he sign blah blah blah. Unfortunately, i dont have, we have agreed verbally only.... maybe if anyone knows someone that i can ask help, it would be very much appreciated.... thanks again. Jeevan when u meet him next time do a recording, a spy cam or a voice recorder, i know it sounds far fetched but thats what comes to my mind, get a confession out of him that he owes u money. jerry
^ian^
Go into your nearest police station.

You won't know unless you try. A lot of agreements are done her verbally, and whilst a signed document is good support, if you tell your story, calmly and accurately, then they might be in a position to do something, or assist you in getting the evidence you. weary_heart I have been suffering from this dilemma for several months. I want to go to the police but I know I will not get anything. What I can do only is to bug him, his family and ask for my money. That is the least I can do. Thanks jeevan. Ihave tried that. all our conversation has been recorded. all my conversation to all af his family has been recorded and I told also the police that what i have is only recorded calls. But it isnt enough. Has anyone know a trusted CID that I can approach? Jeevan hmm now i have run out of ideas. but cant they do a voice and frequency match of the recording with the actual voice? Chocoholic First off, do you have any proof that you gave the money to him? If you have paperwork proving that you gave it to him for the business you can at least try and make him accountable for the loan. Also, what nationality are you both? Seeing as you had been together for so long and living together (i assume), in many countries this is seen as having a common law partner and therefor each person in the relationship, married or not, is entitled to something like a divorce settlement. Also because you were engaged and it was never broken off before he went and got married, and you can prove it, you could say he committed adultery. There are ways and means. THis guy is scum. isabela Is it really a big amount? the thing is, if you really drag this to court if you have enough proof...you will have to spend a lot as well...aside from the stress, the digging of all awful stories between the two of you ..coz for sure he will do his best to prove his innocense.. I know its wrong to say ..just forget about what happen and move on because he really needs to suffer for what he had done...but you'll have to suffer the consequences as well if you fight against him... Youre right God is good...somehow ..someday....he'll pay for it..i believe in karma.. ^ian^
Some people can wait around for the person to come back as a grasshopper, but I prefer instant karma. Take the bastard to the cleaners. weary_heart the total amount is like 70,000. the loan i took is 50,000 and this is only what im asking him to pay for. the rest is for the credit cards and i can handle those. im an asian and he's an arab. honestly, sometimes im thinking of something really not good just to get even. but it's not right i know. he once told me, if i go to police, i will be the one in trouble and not him. though he might be bluffing that time, so also bluffed him last saturday when i told him that our conversation has been recorded and i was with the CID's. he immediately called me and said i will not get anything from him. and so the next day, i told him that i wont do that to him and it's good i heard it from his own mouth that he isnt gonna pay me. at least i can do something to solve the problem in the bank. late that evening, he called me (a miracle) telling me that he will go to the bank and try to solve the matter. i dunno what he did or whatever lie he told the bank. but definitely, i am sure that he was rattled when i told him im going to the police... so far that is the latest in my story... thank you guys... XRW-147 I don't really know you so I can't offer to arrange anything but wondering whether this guy is arab local or just arab? alexandra weary_heart i agree with zam on this he is a pig :evil: i understand that after 3 years of relationship u r still stuck with him but the first thing u have to is to deal with is ur feelings: get him out of ur system! and when it comes to him use only ur brain, keep ur heart away...only so u will be able to have no mercy on him again. it's pointless to say that it was a mistake that u gave him the money and allowing him to register the business by his name. go to the police, make a complaint and even if it won't get solved on the spot, at least he will get that u r not playin anymore! such ba$tard does not desearve any mercy or concideration. :!: weary_heart @ alexandra: if letting him out of my system is as fast as spittin', i could have done that. im stuck with him because of money matters, but emotionally I have gotten over it. frankly, even anger doesnt exist in me. just i feel nothing for him. i even told him i wish him the best, i just hope he will not meet a person like him... i just hope and pray that this nightmare will soon end... KeithL
and it will help if you can link the loan in your name to the money you then loaned to him... I hope you were not silly enough to give him the money in cash Ryan well miss. i dont usually reply.. but donno i actually read all of ur thing... being a boy.. and gods giveness.. i am not so bad in looks. i cud have played arund like him but i dont believe in love. but if love happens yeh u have to b not a lover only but a NICE HUMAN which he didnt proove to be. yeh u have to forgive him wht he did coz u r not HIM. with that dont ever think of him. or hispresence in ur life.. or anything related to him. remove that chapter like a bad memory. look u understand it 2day or later. he was the reason of that financial thing. but god forbid u cud have faced it with some other reason. so god taught u in 2 way.. HIS BAD PART n financial thing whic cud happen.. so better 4get him. 4give him. and yeh.. financial thiing will b over in few years. but dear.. get a life.. forget him.. he will and he has 2 come back to u sooner or later.. but dont expect.. jst live a live... u kno why im writying it. coz its easy 2 share ur personal things with ur close friends.. but when u dont have any 1 u jst need to speak out. thats wht u did.. so u got hundreds of eyes and hear and ofcourse hearts.. to understand wht u felt.. to som ho u r a winner n he s not. gtg.. take care.. bbye weary_heart Thanks ryan. After all the shit that he has given to me, I am over him. And I am only thinking of the bad things that he did to me. I-No-Jack Here is what you should do: 1. go to a lawyer and consult, the initial consultation may eve be free. 2. the lawyer will advise you on whether you can prove your case or not and what you need to prove it - the police are not lawyers. 3. if the price is right even a phone call from the lawyer or a letter from the lawyer will be enought to scare the sh$t out of this guy. He will think that the lawyer could go to immigration, business registration or whatever. 4. don't let him know that you are struggling for money for the lawyer. make up a story that someone who knows about the situation thought it was a really crappy thing to do and will pay the legal expenses no matter how high (but only say this if he mentions money for legal fees becuase he will probagly bluff and say "go ahed sue me you don't have the money..."). 5. even if there is no criminal case you could have a civil case (that's what no. 1 above is for. 6. bottom line don't wast too much energy and time with it. 7. you could tell him that the lawyers told you not to talk to him so that all he needs to do is pay you the money and not talk and that "you will talk to him after" but of course don't talk to him. just telling him that will help because he could also be guilty of harrasment if he insist on calling you. at the very least it will make him "think" let him do the sweating and worrying now. If all fails run him over - no don't do that. Just move on and chuck it to "experience" as someone (Arnie?) said before. or you could ask hp to pay for it as he is used to that kind of thing based on his recent post. good luck. weary_heart thanks arnie. everythign you have mentioned were almost done. he is really such a professional crook. what i have in mind is the macchiavellian theorem. weary_heart
of course not har har har...
ill update you guys after some time. so far the situation is still under control.
thanks. Mi Ange mi Demon
right!... it's a good solution!... St.Lucifer I can figureout the reason behind your name now. I've had similar problems (not as big a financial damage as this) from friends... i mean '-' the emotional stuff... on that account, record how much ever phone calls as u can, coz almost all of your tele coversations with him are only abt the money, u can atleast record all theconversations. n u shouldnt have told him that bit that u've recorded n stuffs. anyways...collect all the info u can..no one does a perfect crime. so there will be things left. record the calls u make to his family.. all this if u have the guts to fight for your right and face it. its not only the guts time, money n other issues as well.. if u cant just forget it thinking that money was just spend in the process to understand that he's such a scumbag. Braveheart...do good. Bleakus yeah seriously dude, go to the police, they will get the guy weary_heart
you bet. my 256GB memory card was full in just 2 weeks?! and i got another card for 1GB. damn! it will soon be over, i hope ahamed 3 words in short S.O.B but remember not all guys are like this SWINE sniper420 too bad........ get a lawyer who can speak arabic and has experience in dealing with these swines. I heard communicating in arabic is really vital ahamed he will be penalized for a huge compensation..if this is the case Get a lawyer lady !! get a lawyer .. get the lawyers fees from that swines pocket as well.. Hope u dont mind us calling him a swine :roll: weary_heart
no, not at all. he, truly, is a swine. ahamed call him somewhere.. n lets dump him somewhere..in khawaneej perhaps. i hope he is reading all this weary_heart
this is the last resort!... but considering it jelena Hi, I suggest you get another loan and use it to pay someone to break every bone in his body....Even if you ever get your money back the big damage has already been done to you and 50 000 $ just ain't enough to cover it. zam Jelene an eye for an eye? Dunno about that. I completely agree the guy should pay for everything, his bad deed, his debt. But weary here, cant put that in her hands, its just not worth it. Believe in karma my friend. :wink: weary_heart
Yeah, sammy. The Machiavellian Theorem : 'Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.' - I used to uphold this not too long ago...
He started paying me. Somehow, I cooled down a little bit.
I do believe in karma, as I have posted on other thread. It hit him faster than I expected. He got terminated from his job (which I consider is really a good one), and now he is working more than a donkey. St.Lucifer Ok .. so things r cool.. hope your new year is showing up to b a goodone.. sage & onion Has this guy actually started to pay anything back yet? bushra21 i love it when karma kicks in.....quickly :twisted: sage & onion
Can you expand on your statement, it has no meaning :?: bushra21 the guy screwed the poor girl over, and in turn he got screwed over when he lost his job....now forcing him to work, as weary put it, more than a donkey. karma. and she had already said that he started paying her back Corcovado
beeeeeeep ... i know , i know the answer its a comedy series ...
ok what do i win? 8) 8) XRW-147 My name is Earl! zam
ahhh....errr...hmmmm <trying to decipher the code> pardon X :?: XRW-147
Showtime + Karma = ? zam My vote corcs for Ms. Dubai Forums :wink: Corcovado
Awww Zammmy :oops: :oops: thank u my habiby don't, doesn't help. just forget about him. think about next one. St.Lucifer Braveheart.. whats the update..? billkalbo weary_heart,
If he has started to pay you, then this is your chance to get the receipt you need. Type up a basic receipt and have it ready next time he gives you any money. Make sure the receipt says " His name has paid _______ toward the loan of XXXXXX "
Make 2 copies and sign both. When he pays you, give him his copy and tell him he needs to sign it. Take that copy for yourself and give him the second copy. Now you have proof that you can bring to CID if he stops paying you.
Make sure you have a witness there also just in case he refuses to sign. Then they can be your witness that he paid part of his debt and owes you the balance.
You might even want to report him to CID after you get the receipt in case he stops paying you. When he does stop paying you, you will have a stronger case if you already reported him. And if you tell him he has been reported, he would not dare to stop paying you on time.
Personally, I would not recommend that you create an original loan agreement and forge his signature but sometimes you need to fight evil with evil. That’s up to you.
Good luck,
BK weary_heart
thanks bk. i kept all the receipts, that was exactly what i did... for future use of course ;) AnnaSvensson Hmmmmm....I always pay for myself and have nothing against paying for a guy, BUT!!!! only if it is me who invites. However, if a guy invites you out ...... he should pay! Once, guy invited me for a dinner. When the bill was brough he said that I should pay for myself. I did. And left 1 Dirham for a guy - as tips ...... the next day he called and apologized, but it was the last time when I went out with him GUYS!!!! Come on! Where have all knights gone??? Are we princess left alone......:( rahul in dxb some guys believe in "women's lib".....and allow the girls to take the lead..... got the point



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