smoggie
Been on the road all day and I am shocked to see the amount of kids not strapped into childrens seats, usually stood up in the front or sat on the parents knee.......What makes this all the more shocking is that the parents are sat there with their seat belts on!!!!!
Surely the police should be enforcing this most basic rule??????
Chocoholic
Mate, unfortunately these people will never get it. I quite frequently ask parents that I see doing this, to strap their children in, and the normal reaction is to be told to get lost and mind your own business.
They will never learn until their child is injured or killed.
smoggie
Yeah I know! But I guess it is not up to you to enforce the law. That is the job of the police.
We all know that if you voice an opinion here that people take personal offence.
Dubai Knight
Unfortunately, life here is cheap.
The fact that a child seat costs very little escapes these idiots.
:( :( :(
Knight
kanelli
I remember the 7Days article about the woman who "heroically" protected her child from death when they were out wadi bashing. What happened was the husband lost control of the SUV, and the mother and son who weren't wearing seatbelts in the back flew through the windshield and the child landed on his mother's body down the cliff. She died, but thank goodness she heroically used her body to protect her child. :roll:
It is the viewpoint there that the outer shell of the car should be enough to protect the passengers. If it doesn't, oh well, God didn't wish it to be so.
One of my husband's coworkers was driving on SZR and thought the car in front had a doll in the back window. No, it was the family's infant!
Chocoholic
Smoggie, I know! However, people that know me here, know very well that I believe in speaking for those who cannot speak for themselves. I believe if you see a childs life being put in danger, because that is exactly what this is, reckless endangerment, you are obliged to say something. You never know, you could save a childs life.
The police do very little about it here. I have on several occassions reported irresponsible drivers to the police, who tell me that they would fine them. But this is not good enough. Many of these people will not learn until the see the potential consequences of their actions.
Children should be taught at school, that they should be strapped into a car.
uaekid
- Chocoholic wrote:
Smoggie, I know! However, people that know me here, know very well that I believe in speaking for those who cannot speak for themselves.
get a hobby..Seriously
Galactico
- uaekid wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Smoggie, I know! However, people that know me here, know very well that I believe in speaking for those who cannot speak for themselves.
get a hobby..Seriously
She does have a point...
Pimpin80
uaekid: she is so much more right than you could ever believe, I have lost a good friend back in Canada because he thought nothign would ever happen to him and he ended up dead in a car accident because he didnt have his seatbelt on. What you take as offense is someone actually carign about saving your life. These accidents are stupid and easily avoidable, but unfortunately until 100's of people die like this no one is going to realize.
Very sad
dubaidog
- uaekid wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Smoggie, I know! However, people that know me here, know very well that I believe in speaking for those who cannot speak for themselves.
get a hobby..Seriously
dude, you area dick. seriousy
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dubaidog
- dubaidog wrote:
- uaekid wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Smoggie, I know! However, people that know me here, know very well that I believe in speaking for those who cannot speak for themselves.
get a hobby..Seriously
dude, you area banana. seriousy
did not realize i was censored. I said you were a *** just to clear things up..you can stick the banana in your back ring. leave chocs alone.
At least she has the smarts to restrain children.
ArchitectRoel
- uaekid wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Smoggie, I know! However, people that know me here, know very well that I believe in speaking for those who cannot speak for themselves.
get a hobby..Seriously
If you like her...court her :oops:
quatroporte
- Galactico wrote:
- uaekid wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Smoggie, I know! However, people that know me here, know very well that I believe in speaking for those who cannot speak for themselves.
get a hobby..Seriously
She does have a point...
Indeed...
sharfraz
- ArchitectRoel wrote:
- uaekid wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Smoggie, I know! However, people that know me here, know very well that I believe in speaking for those who cannot speak for themselves.
get a hobby..Seriously
If you like her...court her :oops:
is someone seeing someone here!!!!!!!!?
hahahahahahahhahha
:lol:
Chocoholic
Thanks guys. I lost my aunt in a car accident because she was not wearing a seat belt! She went straight through the windscreen. I also lost a very good school friend the same way. So as far as I'm concerned you can never be wrong, by telling people to look after their children.
UAEkid, go drop a water melon froma first floor balcony! The result is what happens to a baby or childs head when they hit the windscreen! Children will also be killed instantly if hit with an airbag, they suffer from a broken neck or crushing of the chest.
Children or even adults, not strapped in the back seat are also a danger to the driver or front seat passenger, because even if they are not thrown through the windscreen, they can easily be thrown forward into the back of those in front, causing head injuries.
I can only assume you are one of those ignorant people who doesn't care about children's safety. I hope you never have to learn the hard way.
reviewer
- Galactico wrote:
- uaekid wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Smoggie, I know! However, people that know me here, know very well that I believe in speaking for those who cannot speak for themselves.
get a hobby..Seriously
She does have a point...
+1
rudeboy
seat belt or no seat belt, its in your destiny whether you will die or not. When facing death not even a seat belt can save you.
Chocoholic
Oh yes it can! What a rubbish attitude to have!
I really really do not understand the 'sick' mentality of many 'people' here. A couple of weeks ago whilst driving back from UAQ there was an accident and the police, ambulance and fire brigade were dealing with it. The number of cars and people stopping to take photos, get out and watch what was going on was appalling!
Imagine if that was you, or one of your friends and family? It's got nothing to do with you.
People like that who would take pleasure in seeing another suffer, disgust me! It's like watching a snuff video!
rudeboy
- Chocoholic wrote:
Oh yes it can! What a rubbish attitude to have!
I really really do not understand the 'sick' mentality of many 'people' here. A couple of weeks ago whilst driving back from UAQ there was an accident and the police, ambulance and fire brigade were dealing with it. The number of cars and people stopping to take photos, get out and watch what was going on was appalling!
Imagine if that was you, or one of your friends and family? It's got nothing to do with you.
People like that who would take pleasure in seeing another suffer, disgust me! It's like watching a snuff video!
sorry chocoholics for my "sick and sorry" mentality. But I have known ppl who have survived crashes where they were not wearing a seat belt. I have known ppl who were wearing a seat belt and they passed away when their car steered off the road and crashed down the mountain.
you might have read of articles in gulf news where a 2 year old kid jumped from a 4 storey building and still survived.
Sorry for my sick mentality but this is someone called "god" up there who decides our fates. not a seat belt.
K-Dog
- rudeboy wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Oh yes it can! What a rubbish attitude to have!
I really really do not understand the 'sick' mentality of many 'people' here. A couple of weeks ago whilst driving back from UAQ there was an accident and the police, ambulance and fire brigade were dealing with it. The number of cars and people stopping to take photos, get out and watch what was going on was appalling!
Imagine if that was you, or one of your friends and family? It's got nothing to do with you.
People like that who would take pleasure in seeing another suffer, disgust me! It's like watching a snuff video!
Its amazing to see such ignorance and arrogance. God has given us brains to think. Seat belts are the best protection in a car accident. If we apply your logic, why go see a doctor when we get sick? Why wear safety gears when working on a construction site?
sorry chocoholics for my "sick and sorry" mentality. But I have known ppl who have survived crashes where they were not wearing a seat belt. I have known ppl who were wearing a seat belt and they passed away when their car steered off the road and crashed down the mountain.
you might have read of articles in gulf news where a 2 year old kid jumped from a 4 storey building and still survived.
Sorry for my sick mentality but this is someone called "god" up there who decides our fates. not a seat belt.
smoggie
Rudeboy:
The point that I was making was that this is one of the easiest laws to enforce that CAN SAVE LIVES!
The parents that take no care to secure their own offspring should be hammered (legally)
What makes it worse is when they strap themselves in securely
K-Dog
Its amazing to see such ignorance and arrogance. God has given us brains to think. Seat belts are the best protection in a car accident. If we apply your logic, why go see a doctor when we get sick? Why wear safety gears when working on a construction site?
rudeboy
- K-Dog wrote:
Its amazing to see such ignorance and arrogance. God has given us brains to think. Seat belts are the best protection in a car accident. If we apply your logic, why go see a doctor when we get sick? Why wear safety gears when working on a construction site?
K-Dog and others i think you guys have mis-understood what i m saying. I am not against the seat belt law. I think it should be implemented. Yes I agree that wearing a seat belt increases your chance of survival. And YES wearing safety gears on a construction site do save lifes. But what I am saying is that you will come across cases where ppl have perished away despite wearing seat belts. Ppl have got burnt alive because they were stuck in their cars while they were tangled in the seat belt. You will also come across cases where ppl have passed away despite wearing a seat belt.
Bottom line is seat belt or no seat belt its up to our fate and when death is in our face not even a seat belt can save us.
Chocoholic
- rudeboy wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Oh yes it can! What a rubbish attitude to have!
I really really do not understand the 'sick' mentality of many 'people' here. A couple of weeks ago whilst driving back from UAQ there was an accident and the police, ambulance and fire brigade were dealing with it. The number of cars and people stopping to take photos, get out and watch what was going on was appalling!
Imagine if that was you, or one of your friends and family? It's got nothing to do with you.
People like that who would take pleasure in seeing another suffer, disgust me! It's like watching a snuff video!
sorry chocoholics for my "sick and sorry" mentality. But I have known ppl who have survived crashes where they were not wearing a seat belt. I have known ppl who were wearing a seat belt and they passed away when their car steered off the road and crashed down the mountain.
you might have read of articles in gulf news where a 2 year old kid jumped from a 4 storey building and still survived.
Sorry for my sick mentality but this is someone called "god" up there who decides our fates. not a seat belt.
Ahhh you seem to forget that GOD also gave you the man that invented seatbelts!
People fall from balconies, failed parachute jumps etc all the time and survive. And there is a very simple explanation for this. But I won't bore you with it.
bonk
- Chocoholic wrote:
They will never learn until their child is injured or killed.
Exactly, or they're killed themselves. So then just make seatbelts compulsory only for people who choose to wear one. If some people don't want to wear one, or protect their children, that's their choice. If it increases the chances they or their children die, well isn't that Darwinism working as expected?
Chocoholic
I really don't care if the adults 'choose' to put their lives at risk! But for a child who relies on it's parents/adults to keep them safe. There really is no excuse.
How about adults can choose, but children must be strapped in, until they reach the age of 18, then they can choose or not.
rudeboy
- Chocoholic wrote:
- rudeboy wrote:
- Chocoholic wrote:
Oh yes it can! What a rubbish attitude to have!
I really really do not understand the 'sick' mentality of many 'people' here. A couple of weeks ago whilst driving back from UAQ there was an accident and the police, ambulance and fire brigade were dealing with it. The number of cars and people stopping to take photos, get out and watch what was going on was appalling!
Imagine if that was you, or one of your friends and family? It's got nothing to do with you.
People like that who would take pleasure in seeing another suffer, disgust me! It's like watching a snuff video!
sorry chocoholics for my "sick and sorry" mentality. But I have known ppl who have survived crashes where they were not wearing a seat belt. I have known ppl who were wearing a seat belt and they passed away when their car steered off the road and crashed down the mountain.
you might have read of articles in gulf news where a 2 year old kid jumped from a 4 storey building and still survived.
Sorry for my sick mentality but this is someone called "god" up there who decides our fates. not a seat belt.
Ahhh you seem to forget that GOD also gave you the man that invented seatbelts!
People fall from balconies, failed parachute jumps etc all the time and survive. And there is a very simple explanation for this. But I won't bore you with it.
Yes I agree with you it is God that made man and gave us humans a heart and a brain. Yes man have invented seatbelts but dont forget man also invented the Nuclear Bombs and various other guns and weapons which are being used to wipe each other out.
hmmm i guess talking about seat belts is more important then talking about the facts how to stop all this killing ;) or how to ban guns and weapons or even nuclear weapons ;)
plz i would luv to hear "chocs" version on how humans survive from a failed parachute or even a jump from a high storey building. Are you going to be giving me some scientific evidence?
bonk
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rudeboy
- bonk wrote:
- rudeboy wrote:
Sorry for my sick mentality but this is someone called "god" up there who decides our fates. not a seat belt.
You mean "God" I presume? God might decide our fates but God also gave us abilities to do things and make choices. Personally, I'm not comfortable blaming God when I make a choice that has an outcome I don't like.
bonky i m not blaming god all i m saying is when facing death a seat belt will not save your life. its up to god. that is all i m saying. I am up for seat belt law but its god who decides our fate not a seat belt. If you dont believe in God well thats another story and suggest you hold on to your seat real tight :D
bonk
- rudeboy wrote:
If you dont believe in God well thats another story
Where did I say that?
Chocoholic
You could just say it's one of those things, luck, chance etc. But in many cases of people surviving falls it's because they are either not aware of what's happening - in the case of very young children, inebriated or blacked out from extreme height or whatever. But the point is, because of the lack of awareness or fear, your body does not tense up and become ridgid, which is where you are more likely to suffer injury.
A limp body will absorb impact, therefore making it less likely to sustain serious or lifethreatening injuries.
It's just one theory.
rudeboy
- bonk wrote:
- rudeboy wrote:
If you dont believe in God well thats another story
Where did I say that?
bonk you didnt say it, i m just saying it generally for those who donot believe in god. it was directed towards you.
rudeboy
- Chocoholic wrote:
You could just say it's one of those things, luck, chance etc. But in many cases of people surviving falls it's because they are either not aware of what's happening - in the case of very young children, inebriated or blacked out from extreme height or whatever. But the point is, because of the lack of awareness or fear, your body does not tense up and become ridgid, which is where you are more likely to suffer injury.
A limp body will absorb impact, therefore making it less likely to sustain serious or lifethreatening injuries.
It's just one theory.
yeh you are right. like you said its just one theory, maybe they were lucky thats another theory or maybe someone up there does have the power to decide our fate, thats another theory ;)
bonk
- rudeboy wrote:
it was directed towards you.
Why? What did I say about God that required your direction?
rudeboy
- bonk wrote:
- rudeboy wrote:
it was directed towards you.
Why? What did I say about God that required your direction?
sorry bonk typing mistake i meant it WASNT directed towards you. sorry for any inconvience caused to u :P
Chocoholic
Bonk, it was directed at me. His English is a little confused is all.
rudeboy
- Chocoholic wrote:
Bonk, it was directed at me. His English is a little confused is all.
it was directed to the general public
bonk
- rudeboy wrote:
all i m saying is when facing death a seat belt will not save your life.
There is strong evidence to the contrary - death rates significantly lower correlated to increased use of seatbelts in countries where the law changed, crash tests involving dummies wearing and not wearing seatbelts. There are always exceptions to any generalisation. If a hundred people walk through a minefield, there might be some who do not get blown up.
But IF God decides it's time for you to die, then I don't think any number of safety belts, doctors, or ambulances will save you. Since I don't know when God makes those sorts of decisions, I do my best to stay alive in the meantime.
rudeboy
- bonk wrote:
- rudeboy wrote:
all i m saying is when facing death a seat belt will not save your life.
There is strong evidence to the contrary - death rates significantly lower correlated to increased use of seatbelts in countries where the law changed, crash tests involving dummies wearing and not wearing seatbelts. There are always exceptions to any generalisation. If a hundred people walk through a minefield, there might be some who do not get blown up.
But IF God decides it's time for you to die, then I don't think any number of safety belts, doctors, or ambulances will save you. Since I don't know when God makes those sorts of decisions, I do my best to stay alive in the meantime.
bonk you are right and i agree with you that wearing a seat belt does increase your chances of survival.
Chocoholic
Hurrah! Then go forth and spread the word people!
rudeboy
but at the end of the day your fate and destiny doesnt lie in the hands of a seat belt ;)
Chocoholic
Depends what you belive now doesn't it! I have nothing more to add to the topic.
rudeboy
- Dubai Knight wrote:
- rudeboy wrote:
ppl are dying everyday in africa because of diseases, food shortage and war. That is what we should focus about and how to end all that instead of talking about seat belts ;)
Those people don't have any choice. You choose to wear the seatbelt.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Knight
a 5 year old kid has a choice, he can pick up a gun or he can be a kid.
we have a choice to wear a seat belt. even if we wear a seat belt and death is facing us in the face, will the save belt save u? Thats the 1 million dollar question.
kanelli
Well rudeboy, you and others who think like you and don't take safety precautions will die in larger numbers than those who take safety and security seriously. Safety measures have been suggested in this world because studies have shown how effective the measures are at preventing death and injury. If it is proven that there are significantly higher survival rates for those wearing seat belts, using car seats, and driving responsibly by following road rules and keeping within speed limits - then don't you think that God must be telling everyone something?
rudeboy
- kanelli wrote:
Well rudeboy, you and others who think like you and don't take safety precautions will die in larger numbers than those who take safety and security seriously. Safety measures have been suggested in this world because studies have shown how effective the measures are at preventing death and injury. If it is proven that there are significantly higher survival rates for those wearing seat belts, using car seats, and driving responsibly by following road rules and keeping within speed limits - then don't you think that God must be telling everyone something?
oh man not another one :S kanelli if you read my posts i have said it clear i support a law for seat belts. it should be implemented. I also think kids should be banned from sitting in the front seat. I support the seat belt law. I m up for it. I am 100% behind it. Yes it increases your chance of survival.
But there have been cases where ppl have died even though they were wearing seat belts. Ppl have even survived a horific crash where they werent even wearing a seat belt.
I have experienced it myself. When friends of the family were travelling in a car. they were not wearing seat belts. in a car with 5 passengers, 3 of them died on the spot and 2 of them survived. was it luck?
all i m saying is when death is facing you in your face, not even a seat belt can save you.
ppl are dying everyday in africa because of diseases, food shortage and war. That is what we should focus about and how to end all that instead of talking about seat belts ;)
Dubai Knight
- rudeboy wrote:
ppl are dying everyday in africa because of diseases, food shortage and war. That is what we should focus about and how to end all that instead of talking about seat belts ;)
Those people don't have any choice. You choose to wear the seatbelt.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Knight
gtmash
- rudeboy wrote:
- Dubai Knight wrote:
- rudeboy wrote:
ppl are dying everyday in africa because of diseases, food shortage and war. That is what we should focus about and how to end all that instead of talking about seat belts ;)
Those people don't have any choice. You choose to wear the seatbelt.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Knight
a 5 year old kid has a choice, he can pick up a gun or he can be a kid.
we have a choice to wear a seat belt. even if we wear a seat belt and death is facing us in the face, will the save belt save u? Thats the 1 million dollar question.
You must be one of those people who crosses the SZR with your eyes closed.