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Jesus created Universe says Koran...


Apple Pie بديع السموت والأرض أنى يكون له ولد ولم تكن
له صحبة وخلق كل شيء وهو بكل شيء عليم
BadeeAAu alssamawati waal-ardi anna yakoonu lahu waladun walam takun lahu sahibatun wakhalaqa kulla shay-in wahuwa bikulli shay-in AAaleemun
6.101 Originator (of) the heavens and the earth, that He has certainly been his Son , and not to be certainly his companion, and He created every thing that He will, and He on account of every thing that he will who knows.
According to this ayah, the Son (i.e. Jesus Christ) is shown to have created the heavens and the earth.
outworldish Bravo, you are at it again....
lets try again by putting some sense in that thick head of urs
006.101
YUSUFALI: To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.
PICKTHAL: The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things?
SHAKIR: Wonderful Originator of the heavens and the earth! How could He have a son when He has no consort, and He (Himself) created everything, and He is the Knower of all things.
my reference : http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/006.qmt.html :
three different translators have translated this ayah..... yet none of them claim what you are claiming ..... where exactly did you get your linguistics degree from?
[/b] Apple Pie
Where is the Arabic exegesis...or...are you ashamed of the Arabic...?
P.S.
Resorting to name calling will not help your case... :wink: shafique Apple Pie - you are arguing that the Quran is true - excellent. We should indeed follow the Quran's teachings. (I think it is a strange way to go about extolling the virtues of the Quran and Islam, but hey - if that is how you want to attract people to Islam - who am I to argue?) Cheers, Shafique Apple Pie
Thanks for agreeing that the Koran proclaims Jesus Christ as creator of the Universe...
Cheers! Apple Pie All, It has to be troubling for followers of Islam when they realize that the Koran never once has "allah" claiming, in the first-person singular, that he created anything. "allah" never once makes this claim himself. Where does the Koran ever say anything like..."I, "allah" created..." It never does. This fact alone should be a cause for concern....as its absence makes the Koran not the word of the true creator of the Universe... shafique You make a good point Apple Pie - people should read the Quran and see what it says about who created the universe. May Allah bless you in your efforts to bring people to Islam. Cheers, Shafique Apple Pie
As you can witness for yourself, "allah" never once states that he created the universe.....thus, he cannot possibly be the true creator God of the Universe. shafique
This is an inspired tactic Apple Pie - it will encourage people to read the Quran and look into this issue.
May Allah bless you in this effort.
cheers,
Shafique Apple Pie
The most amazing part of this is that while the god "allah" never once states that he created anything in the first person, in the Koran, Jesus Christ does...!
Now...how is this possible? :D

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shafique Apple Pie - now people will have to read the whole Quran looking for all the instances that say Allah created the universe. You are doing the world a great service - keep up the good work. Cheers, Shafique spoonman edited Apple Pie
It would be great if people would do that instead of blindly following Islam.
However, as we both know most people will not do that - especially followers of Islam, for if they ever did, they would no longer be Muslim... :wink: shafique
Totally agree - people should only follow Islam because it makes sense when one investigates all of its claims about religion.
Can I suggest you do another thread where you state that the Bible is better than the Quran, so as to encourage people to compare and contrast.
cheers,
Shafique Apple Pie
Fact is, Islam does not make sense.
Islam fails to follow its own book of faith.

Sure thing... Apple Pie :D hifriend223 The Creation of Heaven and Earth 60. Who has created the heavens and the earth, and Who sends down for you water from the sky? Yea, with it We cause to grow well-planted orchards full of beauty and delight: it never has been yours to cause to grow. Could there be another god besides Allah? Nay, but they are people who swerve from justice. 61. Or, Who has made the earth firm to live in, and placed rivers in its folds, and set upon it immovable mountains, and made a barrier between the two seas (fresh and salt waters)? Could there be another god besides Allah? Nay, most of them know not. 62. Or, Who answers the one distressed when he calls unto Him, and Who relieves the harm, and makes you (mankind) inheritors of the earth? Could there be another god besides Allah? Little do they reflect! 63. Or, Who guides you through the depths of darkness in the land and the sea, and Who sends the winds as heralds of His Mercy? Could there be another god besides Allah? High is Allah above what they ascribe to Him! 64. Or, Who originates creation, then repeats it, and Who gives you sustenance from heaven and earth? Could there be another god besides Allah? Say, " Bring your proof, if you are truthful!" 65. Say: None in the heavens or on earth, except Allah, knows what is hidden. Nor are they able to perceive when they shall be resurrected (for Judgment). (Qur'an 27:60-65) 9. Allah is He Who sends the winds which push up the clouds. Then He leads them unto a dead land and revive therewith the earth after its death. Such is the Resurrection! (Qur'an 35:9) 27. Have they not seen that Allah causes water to fall from the sky? Then with it We produce fruit of various colours; and among the hills are streaks white and red, and of various colours, and (others) of raven-black. 28. And so amongst men and beasts and cattle, in like manner, various colours. Verily those who truly fear Allah, among His Servants, are those endued with knowledge, and Allah is Exalted in Might, Oft-Forgiving. (Qur'an 35:27-28) 65. Allah sends down water from the sky and therewith revives the earth after its death. Verily in this is a sign for those who listen. (Qur'an 16:65) 6. Have they not then observed the sky above them, how We have constructed it and beautified it, and how there are no rifts in it? 7. And We have spread out the earth, and have flung firm hills therein, and have caused every lovely thing to grow thereon (in pairs). 8. A vision and a reminder for every repentant servant. 9. And We send down from the sky blessed water whereby We give growth unto gardens and the grain of crops, 10. And lofty date-palms with ranged clusters. 11. Provision (made) for (Allah's) Servants; and therewith We quicken a dead land. Like so will be the resurrection of the dead. (Qur'an 50:6-11) 2. Allah is He Who raised the heavens without pillars that you can see, then mounted the Throne, and compelled the sun and the moon to be of service (to his Law)! Each runs (its course) unto an appointed term. He regulates all affairs, explaining the revelations, that you may be certain of the meeting with your Lord. 3. And Allah is He who spread out the earth and placed therein firm hills and flowing streams, and of all fruits He placed therein two spouses (male and female). He covered the night with day. Behold! Herein verily are signs for people who take thought. 4. And in the Earth are neighbouring tracts, vineyard and ploughed lands, and palm trees, like and unlike, watered with one water (the same water). And We have made some of them to excel others in fruit. Behold! Herein verily are signs for people who have sense. (Qur'an 13:2-4) The Creation of Mankind 12. Verily We created man from a product of wet earth (clay). 13. Then placed him as a drop (of sperm) in a safe lodging. 14. Then We fashioned the drop into a clot, then We fashioned the clot into a little lump, then We fashioned the little lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it as another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of creators! 15. Then Behold! After that you surely will die. 16. Then, on the Day of Resurrection you will be raised (again). (Qur'an 23:12-16) 78. And Allah brought you forth from the wombs of your mothers knowing nothing, and gave you hearing and sight and hearts that you might give thanks. (Qur'an 16:78) 19. He brings forth the living from the dead, and He brings forth the dead from the living, and He revives the earth after its death. And like so you will be brought forth (from death). 20. And of His Signs is this: He created you from dust, and then, behold you are human beings, ranging widely! 21. And of His Signs is this: He created for you mates from yourselves that you might find rest in them, and He ordained between you love and mercy. Behold! Herein indeed are Signs for those who reflect. 22. And of His Signs are the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the variations of your languages and colours. Behold! Herein indeed are signs for those who know. 23. And of His Signs is your sleep by night and by day, and your seeking of His Bounty. Behold! Herein indeed are signs for those who heed. 24. And of His Signs is this: He shows you the lightning for fear and for hope, and sends down water from the sky, and thereby revives the earth after its death. Behold! Herein indeed are signs for those who understand. Apple Pie
None of your googled ayahs states, in the first person singular, that "allah" created anything.
Why is this...?
Is the god ""allah" not big enough to make this bold statement himself...?
In fact, he obviously needs help, as "we" created this...proving that "allah" is not alone, and requires assistance... outworldish "And that there is none other God but one." [1 Corinthians 8:4]
It is from the bible.
"Say: He is Allah, the One and Only." [Quran 112:1]
This is from the Quran.
Which faith / Religion do you follow again?
Apple Pie
Jesus is the one God in both the Holy Bible and in the Koran. outworldish
"Say: He is Allah, the One and Only
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten
And there is none like unto Him"
[Quran 112:1-4]
Since you say they are the same. What about the above verses that says god can not be begotten or cannot beget. There is none like him, meaning he cannot be Human for one. He is absolute and eternal meaning he cannot die.
And since refering from the bible you say jesus is the Son of god....
Now how is it that you say "Jesus is the one God in both the Holy Bible and in the Koran" Apple Pie
Islam 101...and we have already been over these Islamic one-hit-wonders.
All of the verbs in this sura are in the imperfect tense (i.e. incomplete action)...which never denies that a Son existed in the past...and, as we have seen, the authors of the Koran plainly state that Jesus Christ is the Son. outworldish I feel like an idiot cause i am arguing with an Idiot. Adios Jackass Apple Pie
Please control your rage...
Thanks... :wink: hifriend223 Muslims believe Jesus, pbuh (peace be upon Him), is one of the greatest Prophets of God, who performed many miracles through the will of Allah, swt. We also believe in His virgin birth, but not in His divinity as Christians do. He was sent by God to the the Jews who had deviated from the teachings of Moses, pbuh. Jesus, pbuh, was sent to confirm what the Prophets before Him had taught, as He says in the Bible, He did not come to change the law, but to fullfill it. We do believe in the original Gospel (Injeel in arabic), given to Jesus, pbuh, but we do not believe the 4 Gospels found in the Bible is that message. We do not believe He was crucified either. We believe He was saved from that and never died. We believe He was taken up by God, is still alive and will come again. We also believe He came to tell us of another, final Prophet to come, and we believe this can also be found in the bible. I will give you the verses from both the Qur'an and Bible:
“And (remember) when Jesus of Mary said: ‘O Children of Israel! Indeed I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Torah (which came) before me, and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad![2] But when he came to them with clear proofs, they say: This is mere magic.” [Qur’an 61:6]
18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. 19 If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account. (Deut. 18:18-19)
There are more biblical verses as well and I'll post them here if you wish. I just wanted to give you an example Apple Pie
Who is Ahmad?
There is much confusion over the term “Ahmad” as it makes its solo appearance in sura 61.
Many Muslims take the stance that it refers to the foretelling of the coming of Islam’s prophet “Muhammad”. Many Christians take the position that it refers to the coming of the Holy Spirit.
The truth is that it is neither of these.
The answer is much more startling than either side appears to be aware of – and can be found by a careful exegete of the scriptures.

Let’s begin by reviewing the classic definition for the term…
أحمد = “ahmadu”
“ahmadu” definition:
He (a man), came to a state, or result, such as was praised , or commended, or approved; properly, his affair, or case, came to such a state or result; or he did or said, that for which he should be praised , or commended; or that which was praiseworthy , or commendable.
It comes from the root “hamida”, which means he praised, eulogized, or commended him; spoke well of him; mentioned him with approbation; sometimes because of favor received. Also implies admiration; and it implies the magnifying, or honoring, of the object thereof; and lowliness, humility, or submissiveness, in the person who offers it. He declared the praises of God or he praised God much with good forms of praise .
[color=blue]References:
An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume two, pp. 638 – 640
The Dictionary of the Holy Qur’an, 1st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar pp. 135 - 136
A Dictionary and Glossary of the Koran, John Penrice, p. 38
Concordance of the Koran, Gustav Flugel, p. 56[/color]
Thus, from the classic definition, just like the participle “Muhammad”; we are told that “ahmad” is in reference to a man, and that this man is praised or is worthy of praise.

Let’s uncover who this praiseworthy man really is.
Consider these passages from the Gospel of Luke…
[color=blue] Luke 1.13 -17
But the angel said to him, Do not fear, Zacharias, because your prayer was heard, and your wife Elizabeth will bear a son to you, and you shall call his name John . And he will be joy and exultation to you, and many will rejoice over his birth. For he shall be great in the eyes of the Lord, and he shall not drink wine or strong drink. And he will be filled of the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb.[/color]
And he will turn many of the sons of Israel to the Lord their God. And he will go out before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah "to turn the hearts of fathers to their children," and disobedient ones to the wisdom of the just, to make ready a people having been prepared for the Lord. (Mal. 4.5, 6 )
[color=blue] Luke 1.63 - 80
And asking for a writing tablet, he wrote, saying, John is his name . And all marveled. And instantly his mouth was opened and his tongue loosed, and he spoke, blessing God. And fear came on all those living around them. And in all the hill country of Judea all these things were talked about. And all who heard laid them up in their hearts, saying, What then will this child be? And the hand of the Lord was with him. And his father Zacharias was filled of the Holy Spirit and prophesied, saying, Blessed be the Lord, the God of Israel, because He visited and worked redemption for His people. And He raised up a Horn of salvation for us in the house of His servant David; even as He spoke through the mouth of His holy prophets from the age before: Salvation from ones hostile to us, and from the hand of all the ones hostile to us, to execute mercy with our fathers, and to remember His holy covenant, the oath which He swore to our father Abraham, to give to us, that we being delivered out of the hand of those hostile to us, in order to serve Him without fear, in consecration and righteousness before Him all the days of our life. [/color]
And you, child, will be called Prophet of the Most High, for you will go before the face of the Lord to prepare His ways, (Mal. 3.1)
[color=blue] to give a knowledge of salvation to His people by remission of their sins, through the tender heart of mercy of our God, in which the Dayspring from on high will visit us, to appear to those sitting in darkness and in shadow of death, to direct our feet into the way of peace. (Isa. 9:2) And the child grew, and became strong in spirit. And he was in deserted places until the day of his showing to Israel. [/color]
[color=blue] Luke 3.2 - 16
Upon the high priesthood of Annas and Caiaphas, t he Word of God came on John the son of Zacharias in the desert. And he came into the neighborhood of the Jordan proclaiming a baptism of repentance for remission of sins, as it has been written in the scroll of the Words of Isaiah the prophet, saying: [/color]
"The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare the way of the Lord, make His paths straight.”
[color=blue] “Every valley shall be filled up, and every mountain and hill shall be made low; and the crooked places shall be made into straight, and the rough into smooth ways;" "and all flesh shall see the salvation of God."( Isaiah 40.3-5) Then he said to the crowds going out to be baptized by him, Offspring of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? Then bring forth fruits worthy of repentance, and do not begin to say within yourselves, We have Abraham as father. For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham out of these stones. And also the axe is already laid to the root of the trees; therefore, every tree not producing good fruit is being cut down and being thrown into the fire. And the crowd asked him, saying, What then shall we do? And answering, he said to them, The one that has two tunics, let him give to him that has not. And the one that has food, let him do the same. And tax collectors also came to be baptized. And they said to him, Teacher, what shall we do? And he said to them, Continue to do no more than that commanded to you. And also ones serving as soldiers asked him, saying, And we, what shall we do? And he said to them, Do not shake violently anyone nor accuse falsely, and be satisfied with your wages. But the people were expecting, and all reasoning in their hearts about John, lest perhaps he is the Christ, John answered all, saying, I indeed baptize you with water; but He stronger than I comes, of whom I am not fit to loosen the thong of His sandals. He will baptize you in the Holy Spirit and fire , [/color]
[color=blue] Luke 7.22 - 33
And answering, Jesus said to them , Going, report to John what you saw and heard; that blind ones are seeing again, lame ones are walking about, leprous ones are being cleansed, deaf ones are hearing, dead ones are being raised, poor ones are preached the Gospel. (Isa. 35:5, 6; 61:1) And blessed is he who is not offended in Me. And John's messengers going away, He began to speak to the crowds about John: What did you go out to the deserted places to see? A reed being shaken by the wind? But what did you go out to see? A man who had been dressed in soft clothing? Behold, those in splendid clothing and being in luxury are in king's palaces. But what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I say to you, Even more than a prophet. [/color]
This is he about whom it has been written:
"Behold, I send My messenger" before Your face, who "will prepare Your way before You." (Mal. 3.1)
[color=blue] For I say to you, among those born of a woman, no prophet is greater than John the Baptist. But the least one in the kingdom of God is greater than he is. And all the people and the tax collectors hearing, they justified God, having been baptized with the baptism of John. But the Pharisees and the lawyers set aside God's counsel as to themselves, not being baptized by him. And the Lord said, Then to what shall I compare the men of this generation? And to what are they like? They are like children sitting in a market and calling to one another, and saying, We piped to you, and you did not dance; we mourned to you, and you did not weep. For John the Baptist has come neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, He has a demon. [/color]
[color=blue] Luke 11.15 - 20
But some of them said, He casts out the demons by Beelzebub the chief of the demons . And tempting Him, others were seeking a miraculous sign from Heaven from Him. But knowing their thoughts, He said to them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to ruin, and a house against a house falls. And also if Satan is divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? Because you say I cast out the demons by Beelzebub. And if I cast out the demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Because of this they shall be your judges. But if I cast out the demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. [/color]


Compare to…
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وإذ قال عيسى ابن مريم يبني إسرءيل إني
رسول الله إليكم مصدقا لما بين يدي من التورية
ومبشرا برسول يأتي من بعدي اسمه أحمد فلما
جاءهم بالبينت قالوا هذا سحر مبين
Wa-ith qala AAeesa ibnu maryama ya banee isra-eela innee rasoolu Allahi ilaykum musaddiqan lima bayna yadayya mina alttawrati wamubashshiran birasoolin ya/tee min baAAdee ismuhu ahmadu falamma jaahum bialbayyinati qaloo hatha sihrun mubeenun
61.6 And when Jesus, Mary's son, said: “My son’s of Israel, I came, “allah's” messenger to you; fulfilling the truth altogether manifest before, from the scriptures of the Jews and Christians; and one who rejoices another on account of a messenger; He comes from after thee, His name should be praised.” So when He came to them on account of the manifest evidences, they said: “He obviously allies himself to the devil.” [/color]
61.6 paraphrases Jesus’ quote from Malachi, which pertains to John the Baptist preparing the way for Him, as recorded in the Biblical Gospels.
Let’s summarize exactly what is being stated in 61.6…
• Jesus quotes from the Old Testament (alttawrati).
• Jesus is quoted as saying that He, Himself came (innee) as the one spoken of from BOTH the OT (alttawrati); AND from the one who rejoices another (mubashshiran).
• Observe that the text specifically stresses two vantage points that Jesus Himself fulfills and confirms as truth:
1) Before, from the OT (alttawrati).
&
2) After, from the one who rejoices Him (mubashshiran...i.e. John the Baptist).
• Jesus proclaims that He fulfills both the OT scripture, & that of John the Baptist’ proclamation of Him.
• The one who rejoices another (wamubashshiran…i.e. John the Baptist) appears in only three Koranic locations (34.45, 48.8, & 61.6) and refers to this praiseworthy man (i.e Jesus). Observe that the two other locations are in the context of “Muhammad” (i.e. Jesus).
• Further, the one who rejoices does so on account of a “messenger” (birasoolin).
• We are told that this “messenger” is a man that comes (ya/tee) from after thee (baAAdee).
• This “messenger’s” name (ismuhu) is worthy of praise (ahmadu). Thus, just like the participle “Muhammad”, “ahmadu” refers to a man that is praised as deity.
• The implication of Jesus’ statement in the Koran is profound, as He is proclaiming that He is the Lord that John the Baptist has prepared the way for. Jesus is claiming to be God Almighty in this ayah!
• The sequence marker “fa” (signifying cause & effect), then connects what we were just told regarding Jesus’ fulfillment of the scriptures, to His reception by some of the people – who though that He allied Himself to the devil.
Observe this Koranic quote from Jesus, which borrows the same phraseology as that of 61.6 – confirming that Jesus is the subject spoken of as “Ahmad”, and also confirming His deity…
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ومصدقا لما بين يدي من التورية ولأحل لكم
بعض الذي حرم عليكم وجئتكم باية من ربكم
فاتقوا الله وأطيعون
Wamusaddiqan lima bayna yadayya mina alttawrati wali-ohilla lakum baAAda allathee hurrima AAalaykum waji/tukum bi-ayatin min rabbikum faittaqoo Allaha waateeAAooni
3.50 "And fulfilling the truth altogether manifest before, from the scriptures of the Jews and Christians; and by it has been made lawful by your portion (of) which is forbidden to you, and I came to you on account of an apparent sign from your Lord, so you take as a shield “allah”, and obey me!" [/color]
More on John the Baptist…
When John the Baptist’ name is called-out in the Koran it is always in the context of Jesus Christ:
[color=red] John the Baptist: 3.38-40, 6.85-86, 19.7-15, 21.90 [/color]
Thus, it should come as no surprise to discover that John the Baptist’ attributes are also intertwined in the context of the Koranic passages that describe “Muhammad” & “Ahmad” (i.e. Jesus Christ), as John is blazing the path for Jesus - such it is with the two other ayahs that utilize the participle “wamubashshiran” as found in 61.6…

[color=black]إنا أرسلنك شهدا ومبشرا ونذيرا
Inna arsalnaka shahidan wamubashshiran wanatheeran
48.8 Certainly we sent as a witness, and one who rejoices another, and a warner. [/color]
This passage is one of several that describe John the Baptist, in an ayah that culminates with the mentioning of “Muhammad” (i.e. Jesus Christ).
Compare to this nearly verbatim ayah…
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يأيها النبي إنا أرسلنك شهدا ومبشرا ونذيرا
Ya ayyuha alnnabiyyu inna arsalnaka shahidan wamubashshiran wanatheeran
33.45 O! you the prophet, certainly we sent as a witness, and one who rejoices another, and a warner. [/color]
This ayah builds upon 48.8 by adding the detail that John the Baptist is also a Prophet – as told to us by Jesus in the Gospels.
Further, this ayah comes on the heels of the mentioning of “Muhammad” (i.e. Jesus Christ) in 33.40.

Observe the parallels:
[color=blue] Luke
• Jesus quotes from what has been written
• Jesus fulfills the scriptures
• John the Baptist rejoices the coming of Jesus Christ
• John is declared to be a Prophet
• John prepares the way of the Lord coming after him
• People say Jesus allies Himself with Beelzebub
• Jesus is God[/color]
[color=red] 61.6
• Jesus quotes from the OT
• Jesus fulfills the scriptures
• One witness is rejoicing on account of a messenger that is to come after him
• The one coming after him is praised as deity
• The witness is declared to be a Prophet
• People say Jesus allies Himself to the devil
• Jesus is God[/color]

Bottom line…
John the Baptist blazes the trail for Jesus Christ.
“Muhammad” = “Ahmad” = Jesus Christ outworldish apple pie : you are among those " even if jesus himself descend and testify that he is not god nor the son of god but a messenger", you will call him a lier. Apple Pie
Even the authors of the Koran state that Jesus is God.
Are you calling them liars? hifriend223 Muslims believe Jesus, pbuh (peace be upon Him), is one of the greatest Prophets of God...
Muslims believe that Allah the Almighty, Who is the Maker of the universe and of all beings in it, created the universe for very significant purposes. Qur’an informs this as follows:
[color=red]Al-Anbiya :
16 وَمَا خَلَقْنَا السَّمَاءَ وَالْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا لَاعِبِينَ
[/color] Transliteration 16: Wama khalaqna alssamaa waalarda wama baynahuma laAAibeena

Yusuf Ali 16: Not for (idle) sport did We create the heavens and the earth and all that is between!

Shakir 16: And We did not create the heaven and the earth and what is between them for sport.

Pickthal 16: We created not the heaven and the earth and all that is between them in play.

M. Khan 16: We created not the heavens and the earth and all that is between them for a (mere) play .

French 16: Ce n'est pas par jeu que Nous avons créé le ciel et la terre et ce qui est entre eux.

Spanish 16: No creamos el cielo, la tierra y lo que entre ellos hay para pasar el rato.

Indonesian 16: Dan tidaklah Kami ciptakan langit dan bumi dan segala yang ada di antara keduanya dengan bermain-main.

Melayu 16: Dan (ingatlah) tidaklah Kami menciptakan langit dan bumi serta segala yang ada di antaranya, secara main-main.

German 16: Und Wir erschufen Himmel und Erde und das, was zwischen beiden ist, nicht zum Spiel.

Russian 16: Мы не создали небо, землю и все, что между ними, забавляясь.

Bosnian 16: Mi nismo stvorili nebo i Zemlju, i ono što je između njih, da se zabavljamo.

Urdu 16: اور ہم نے آسمان اور زمین کو اورجو کچھ ان کے بیچ میں ہے کھیلتے ہوئے نہیں بنایا

[color=red]Sad (38:27)
27 وَمَا خَلَقْنَا السَّمَاءَ وَالْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا بَاطِلًا ذَلِكَ ظَنُّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا فَوَيْلٌ لِّلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنَ النَّارِ [/color]

Transliteration 27: Wama khalaqna alssamaa waalarda wama baynahuma batilan thalika thannu allatheena kafaroo fawaylun lillatheena kafaroo mina alnnari

Yusuf Ali 27: Not without purpose did We create heaven and earth and all between! that were the thought of Unbelievers! but woe to the Unbelievers because of the Fire (of Hell)!

Shakir 27: And We did not create the heaven and the earth and what is between them in vain; that is the opinion of those who disbelieve then woe to those who disbelieve on account of the fire.

Pickthal 27: And We created not the heaven and the earth and all that is between them in vain. That is the opinion of those who disbelieve. And woe unto those who disbelieve, from the Fire!

M. Khan 27: And We created not the heaven and the earth and all that is between them without purpose! That is the consideration of those who disbelieve! Then woe to those who disbelieve (in Islamic Monotheism) from the Fire!

French 27: Nous n'avons pas créé le ciel et la terre et ce qui existe entre eux en vain. C'est ce que pensent ceux qui ont mécru. Malheur à ceux qui ont mécru pour le feu [qui les attend]!

Spanish 27: No hemos creado en vano el cielo, la tierra y lo que entre ellos está. Así piensan los infieles. Y ¡ay de los infieles, por el Fuego...!

Indonesian 27: Dan Kami tidak menciptakan langit dan bumi dan apa yang ada antara keduanya tanpa hikmah. Yang demikian itu adalah anggapan orang-orang kafir, maka celakalah orang-orang kafir itu karena mereka akan masuk neraka.

Melayu 27: Dan tiadalah Kami menciptakan langit dan bumi serta segala yang ada di antara keduanya sebagai ciptaan yang tidak mengandungi hikmah dan keadilan; yang demikian adalah sangkaan orang-orang yang kafir! Maka kecelakaanlah bagi orang-orang yang kafir itu dari azab Neraka.

German 27: "Und Wir haben den Himmel und die Erde und das, was zwischen beiden ist, nicht sinnlos erschaffen. Das ist die Ansicht derer, die ungläubig sind. Wehe denn den Ungläubigen wegen des Feuers!

Russian 27: Мы не создали небо и землю и то, что между ними, понапрасну. Так думают только те, которые не веруют. Горе же тем, которые не веруют, от Огня!

Bosnian 27: Mi nismo uzalud stvorili nebo i Zemlju i ono što je između njih; tako misle nevjernici, pa teško nevjernicima kad budu u vatri!

Urdu 27: اور ہم نے آسمان اور زمین کو اور جو کچھ ان کے بیچ میں ہے بیکار تو پیدا نہیں کیا یہ تو ان کا خیال ہے جو کافر ہیں پھرکافروں کے لیے ہلاکت ہے جو آگ ہے Apple Pie
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Interesting...that even in every language, "allah" is completely unable to make the simple statement, in the first person singular...."I, "allah", created the heavens and the earth".
Does "allah" require help in creating the Universe....is this why he cannot make this statement himself...? hifriend223 This is not for blind people (only for people who can see) :
Muslims believe Jesus, pbuh (peace be upon Him), is one of the greatest Prophets of God...
Muslims believe that Allah the Almighty, Who is the Maker of the universe and of all beings in it, created the universe for very significant purposes.
Aal-e-Imran | 200 verses | The family of Imran سورة آل عمران
Sura #3 | Madina


189 [color=red]وَلِلّهِ مُلْكُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ وَاللّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ [/color]

Transliteration 189: Walillahi mulku alssamawati waalardi waAllahu AAala kulli shayin qadeerun

Yusuf Ali 189: To Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth; and Allah hath power over all things.

Shakir 189: And Allah's is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, and Allah has power over all things.

Pickthal 189: Unto Allah belongeth the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth. Allah is Able to do all things.

M. Khan 189: And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and Allah has power over all things.

French 189: A Allah appartient le royaume des cieux et de la terre. Et Allah est Omnipotent.

Spanish 189: El dominio de los cielos y dela tierra pertenece a Alá. Alá es omnipotente.

Indonesian 189: Kepunyaan Allah-lah kerajaan langit dan bumi, dan Allah Maha Kuasa atas segala sesuatu.

Melayu 189: Dan bagi Allah jualah kuasa pemerintah langit dan bumi dan Allah Maha Kuasa atas tiap-tiap sesuatu.

German 189: Und Allahs ist das Reich der Himmel und der Erde, und Allah hat Macht über alle Dinge.

Russian 189: Аллаху принадлежит власть над небесами и землей, и Аллах способен на всякую вещь.

Bosnian 189: Samo Allahu pripada vlast na nebesima i na Zemlji i jedino je Allah kadar sve!

Urdu 189: اور آسمانوں اور زمین کی بادشاہی الله ہی کے واسطے ہے اور الله ہر چیز پر قادر ہے

As-Sajda | The Prostration سورة السجدة
Sura #32 | Makkah


4 [color=red]اللَّهُ الَّذِي خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا فِي سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٍ ثُمَّ اسْتَوَى عَلَى الْعَرْشِ مَا لَكُم مِّن دُونِهِ مِن وَلِيٍّ وَلَا شَفِيعٍ أَفَلَا تَتَذَكَّرُونَ [/color]

Transliteration 4: Allahu allathee khalaqa alssamawati waalarda wama baynahuma fee sittati ayyamin thumma istawa AAala alAAarshi ma lakum min doonihi min waliyyin wala shafeeAAin afala tatathakkaroona

Yusuf Ali 4: It is Allah Who has created the heavens and the earth, and all between them, in six Days, and is firmly established on the Throne (of Authority): ye have none, besides Him, to protect or intercede (for you): will ye not then receive admonition?

Shakir 4: Allah is He Who created the heavens and the earth and what is between them in six periods, and He mounted the throne (of authority); you have not besides Him any guardian or any intercessor, will you not then mind?

Pickthal 4: Allah it is Who created the heavens and the earth, and that which is between them, in six Days. Then He mounted the Throne. Ye have not, beside Him, a protecting friend or mediator. Will ye not then remember?

M. Khan 4: Allah it is He Who has created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them in six Days. Then He Istawa (rose over) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). You (mankind) have none, besides Him, as a Walee (protector or helper etc.) or an intercessor. Will you not then remember (or be admonished)?

French 4: Allah qui a créé en six jours les cieux et la terre, et ce qui est entre eux. Ensuite Il S'est établi ‹Istawa› sur le Tròne. Vous n'avez, en dehors de Lui, ni allié ni intercesseur. Ne vous rappelez-vous donc pas?

Spanish 4: Alá es Quien ha creado los cielos, la tierra y lo que entre ellos está en seis días. Luego, se ha instalado en el Trono. Fuera de É1, no tenéis amigo ni intercesor. ¿Es que no os dejaréis amonestar?

Indonesian 4: Allah-lah yang menciptakan langit dan bumi dan apa yang ada di antara keduanya dalam enam masa, kemudian Dia bersemayam di atas 'Arsy . Tidak ada bagi kamu selain daripada-Nya seorang penolongpun dan tidak (pula) seorang pemberi syafa'at . Maka apakah kamu tidak memperhatikan?

Melayu 4: Allah Tuhan yang menciptakan langit dan bumi serta segala yang ada di antara keduanya dalam enam masa, kemudian Dia bersemayam di atas Arasy; kamu tidak akan beroleh sebarang penolong dan pemberi syafaat selain dari Allah; oleh itu tidakkah kamu mahu insaf dan mengambil iktibar (untuk mencapai keredaanNya)?

German 4: "Allah ist es, Der die Himmel und die Erde und alles, was zwischen beiden ist, in sechs Tagen erschuf; dann wandte Er Sich hoheitsvoll Seinem Reich zu. Ihr habt außer Ihm weder einen wahren Freund noch einen Fürsprecher. Wollt ihr euch denn nicht ermahnen lassen?

Russian 4: Аллах – Тот, Кто создал небеса и землю и то, что между ними, за шесть дней, а затем вознесся на Трон (или утвердился на Троне). Нет для вас, помимо Него, ни покровителя, ни заступника. Неужели вы не помяните назидание?

Bosnian 4: Allah je nebesa i Zemlju i ono što je između njih u šest vremenskih razdoblja stvorio, a onda svemirom zagospodario; vi, osim Njega, ni zaštitnika ni posrednika nemate, pa zašto se ne urazumite?

Urdu 4: الله وہ ہے جس نے آسمانوں اور زمین کو اورجو کچھ ان میں ہے چھ روز میں بنایا پھر عرش پر قائم ہوا تمہارے لیے اس کے سوا نہ کوئی کارساز ہے نہ سفارشی پھر کیا تم نہیں سمجھتے

Ibrahim | Abraham سورة إبراهيم
Sura #14 | Makkah


2 [color=red]اللّهِ الَّذِي لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الأَرْضِ وَوَيْلٌ لِّلْكَافِرِينَ مِنْ عَذَابٍ شَدِيدٍ [/color]

Transliteration 2: Allahi allathee lahu ma fee alssamawati wama fee alardi wawaylun lilkafireena min AAathabin shadeedin

Yusuf Ali 2: Of Allah, to Whom do belong all things in the heavens and on earth! But alas for the Unbelievers for a terrible penalty (their Unfaith will bring them)!-

Shakir 2: (Of) Allah, Whose is whatever is in the heavens and whatever Is in the earth; and woe to the unbelievers on account of the severe chastisement,

Pickthal 2: Allah, unto Whom belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. and woe unto the disbelievers from an awful doom;

M. Khan 2: Allah to Whom belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth! And woe unto the disbelievers from a severe torment.

French 2: Allah, à qui appartient tout ce qui est dans les cieux et sur la terre. Et malheur aux mécréants, pour un dur châtiment [qu'ils subiront].

Spanish 2: de Alá, a Quien pertenece lo que está en los cielos y lo que está en la tierra. ¡Ay de los infieles, por un castigo severo...!

Indonesian 2: Allah yang memiliki segala apa yang di langit dan di bumi. Dan celakalah bagi orang-orang kafir karena siksaan yang sangat pedih.

Melayu 2: Allah jua yang memiliki segala yang ada di langit serta yang ada di bumi dan kecelakaan besar bagi orang-orang yang kufur ingkar (terhadap Al-Quran) dari azab yang amat berat (yang akan menimpa mereka kelak).

German 2: Allahs ist, was in den Himmeln und was auf der Erde ist. Und wehe den Ungläubigen wegen der schrecklichen Strafe!

Russian 2: Аллаха, Которому принадлежит все, что на небесах и на земле. Горе от тяжких страданий неверующим,

Bosnian 2: Allaha, čije je ono što je na nebesima i ono što je na Zemlji. A od užasne patnje teško nevjernicima,

Urdu 2: یعنی الله جس کے لیے ہے جو کچھ آسمانوں اور زمین میں ہے اور کافروں پر افسوس کہ انہیں سخت عذاب ہونا ہے

Ar-Rad | The Thunder سورة الرعد
Sura #13 | Makkah


16 [color=red]قُلْ مَن رَّبُّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ قُلِ اللّهُ قُلْ أَفَاتَّخَذْتُم مِّن دُونِهِ أَوْلِيَاءَ لاَ يَمْلِكُونَ لِأَنفُسِهِمْ نَفْعًا وَلاَ ضَرًّا قُلْ هَلْ يَسْتَوِي الأَعْمَى وَالْبَصِيرُ أَمْ هَلْ تَسْتَوِي الظُّلُمَاتُ وَالنُّورُ أَمْ جَعَلُواْ لِلّهِ شُرَكَاءَ خَلَقُواْ كَخَلْقِهِ فَتَشَابَهَ الْخَلْقُ عَلَيْهِمْ قُلِ اللّهُ خَالِقُ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ وَهُوَ الْوَاحِدُ الْقَهَّارُ [/color]

Transliteration 16: Qul man rabbu alssamawati waalardi quli Allahu qul afaittakhathtum min doonihi awliyaa la yamlikoona lianfusihim nafAAan wala darran qul hal yastawee alaAAma waalbaseeru am hal tastawee alththulumatu waalnnooru am jaAAaloo lillahi shurakaa khalaqoo kakhalqihi fatashabaha alkhalqu AAalayhim quli Allahu khaliqu kulli shayin wahuwa alwahidu alqahharu

Yusuf Ali 16: Say: "Who is the Lord and Sustainer of the heavens and the earth?" Say: "(It is) Allah." Say: "Do ye then take (for worship) protectors other than Him, such as have no power either for good or for harm to themselves?" Say: "Are the blind equal with those who see? Or the depths of darkness equal with light?" Or do they assign to Allah partners who have created (anything) as He has created, so that the creation seemed to them similar? Say: "(Allah) is the Creator of all things: He is the One, the Supreme and Irresistible."

Shakir 16: Say: Who is the Lord of the heavens and the earth?-- Say: Allah. Say: Do you take then besides Him guardians who do not control any profit or harm for themselves? Say: Are the blind and the seeing alike? Or can the darkness and the light be equal? Or have they set up with Allah associates who have created creation like His, so that what is created became confused to them? Say: Allah is the Creator of all things, and He is the One, the Supreme.

Pickthal 16: Say (O Muhammad): Who is Lord of the heavens and the earth? Say: Allah. Say: Take ye then (others) beside Him for protectors, which, even for themselves, have neither benefit nor hurt? Say: Is the blind man equal to the seer, or is darkness equal to light? Or assign they unto Allah partners who created the like of His creation so that the creation (which they made and His creation) seemed alike to them? Say: Allah is the Creator of all things, and He is the One, the Almighty.

M. Khan 16: Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Who is the Lord of the heavens and the earth?" Say: "(It is) Allah." Say: "Have you then taken (for worship) Auliya (protectors, etc.) other than Him, such as have no power either for benefit or for harm to themselves?" Say: "Is the blind equal to the one who sees? Or darkness equal to light? Or do they assign to Allah partners who created the like of His creation, so that the creation (which they made and His creation) seemed alike to them." Say: "Allah is the Creator of all things, He is the One, the Irresistible."

French 16: Dis: ‹Qui est le Seigneur des cieux et de la terre?› Dis: ‹Allah›. Dis: ‹Et prendrez-vous en dehors de Lui, des maîtres qui ne détiennent pour eux-mêmes égales, les ténèbres et la lumière? Ou donnent-ils à Allah des associés qui créent comme Sa création au point que les deux créations se soient confondues à eux? Dis: ‹Allah est le Créateur de toute chose, et c'est Lui l'Unique, le Dominateur suprême›.

Spanish 16: Di: "¿Quién es el Señor de los cielos y de la tierra?" Di: "¡Alá!" Di: "¿Y tomaréis, en lugar de tomarle a Él, a amigos que no disponen para sí mismos de lo que puede aprovechar o dañar?" Di: "¿Son iguales el ciego y el vidente? ¿Son iguales las tinieblas y la luz? ¿Han dado a Alá asociados que hayan creado algo como lo que Él ha creado, al punto de llegar a confundir lo creado?" Di: "Alá es el Creador de todo. Él es el Uno, el Invicto".

Indonesian 16: Katakanlah: "Siapakah Tuhan langit dan bumi?" Jawabnya: "Allah." Katakanlah: "Maka patutkah kamu mengambil pelindung-pelindungmu dari selain Allah, padahal mereka tidak menguasai kemanfa'atan dan tidak (pula) kemudharatan bagi diri mereka sendiri?". Katakanlah: "Adakah sama orang buta dan yang dapat melihat, atau samakah gelap gulita dan terang benderang; apakah mereka menjadikan beberapa sekutu bagi Allah yang dapat menciptakan seperti ciptaan-Nya sehingga kedua ciptaan itu serupa menurut pandangan mereka?" Katakanlah: "Allah adalah Pencipta segala sesuatu dan Dia-lah Tuhan Yang Maha Esa lagi Maha Perkasa".

Melayu 16: Bertanyalah (wahai Muhammad): Siapakah Tuhan yang memelihara dan mentadbirkan langit dan bumi? Jawablah: "Allah". Bertanyalah lagi: Kalau demikian, patutkah kamu menjadikan benda-benda yang lain dari Allah sebagai Pelindung dan Penolong, yang tidak dapat mendatangkan sebarang manfaat bagi dirinya sendiri dan tidak dapat menolak sesuatu bahaya? Bertanyalah lagi: Adakah sama, orang yang buta dengan orang yang celik? Atau adakah sama, gelap-gelita dengan terang? Atau adakah makhluk-makhluk yang mereka jadikan sekutu bagi Allah itu telah mencipta sesuatu seperti ciptaanNya, sehingga ciptaan-ciptaan itu menjadi kesamaran kepada mereka? Katakanlah: Allah jualah yang menciptakan tiap-tiap sesuatu, dan Dialah Yang Maha Esa, lagi Maha Kuasa.

German 16: "Sprich: ""Wer ist der Herr der Himmel und der Erde?"" Sprich: ""Allah."" Sprich: ""Habt ihr euch Helfer außer Ihm genommen, die sich selbst weder nützen noch schaden können?"" Sprich: ""Können der Blinde und der Sehende gleich sein? Oder kann die Finsternis dem Licht gleich sein? Oder stellen sie Allah Teilhaber zur Seite, die eine Schöpfung wie die Seine erschaffen haben, so daß (beide) Schöpfungen ihnen gleichartig erscheinen?"" Sprich: ""Allah ist der Schöpfer aller Dinge, und Er ist der Einzige, der Allmächtige.""

Russian 16: Скажи: «Кто Господь небес и земли?» Скажи: «Аллах». Скажи: «Неужели вы взяли себе вместо Него покровителей и помощников, которые не властны принести пользу и вред даже самим себе?» Скажи: «Разве равны слепой и зрячий? Или же равны мраки и свет?» Или же они нашли сотоварищей Аллаха, которые творят так, как творит Аллах, и эти творения кажутся им схожими? Скажи: «Аллах – Творец всякой вещи. Он – Единственный, Всемогущий».

Bosnian 16: Reci: "Ko je Gospodar nebesa i Zemlje?" - i odgovori: "Allah!" Reci: "Pa zašto ste onda umjesto Njega kao zaštitnike prihvatili one koji sami sebi ne mogu neku korist pribaviti niti od sebe kakavu štetu otkloniti?" Reci: "Zar su jednaki slijepac i onaj koji vidi, ili, zar su isto tmine i svjetlo, ili, zar oni koje su učinili Allahu ravnim stvaraju kao što On stvara, pa im se stvaranje čini slično?" Reci: "Allah je Stvoritelj svega i On je Jedni i Svemoćni."

Urdu 16: کہو آسمانوں اور زمین کا رب کون ہے کہہ دو الله کہو پھر کیا تم نے الله کے سوا ان چیزوں کو معبود نہیں بنا رکھا جو اپنے نفسوں کے نفع اور نقصان کےبھی مالک نہیں کہو کیا اندھا اور دیکھنے والا برابر ہوسکتا ہے یا کہیں اندھیرا اور روشنی برابر ہو سکتے ہیں کیا جنہیں انہوں نے الله کا شریک بنا رکھا ہے انہو ں نے بھی الله کی مخلوق جیسی کوئی مخلوق بنائی ہے پھر مخلوق ان کی نظر میں مشتبہ ہو گئی ہے پیدا کرنے والااللہ ہے اور وہ اکیلا زبردست ہے

Ar-Rad| The Thunder سورة الرعد
Sura #13 | Makkah

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2 اللّهُ الَّذِي رَفَعَ السَّمَاوَاتِ بِغَيْرِ عَمَدٍ تَرَوْنَهَا ثُمَّ اسْتَوَى عَلَى الْعَرْشِ وَسَخَّرَ الشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ كُلٌّ يَجْرِي لِأَجَلٍ مُّسَمًّى يُدَبِّرُ الأَمْرَ يُفَصِّلُ الآيَاتِ لَعَلَّكُم بِلِقَاءِ رَبِّكُمْ تُوقِنُونَ [/color]
Transliteration 2: Allahu allathee rafaAAa alssamawati bighayri AAamadin tarawnaha thumma istawa AAala alAAarshi wasakhkhara alshshamsa waalqamara kullun yajree liajalin musamman yudabbiru alamra yufassilu alayati laAAallakum biliqai rabbikum tooqinoona

Yusuf Ali 2: Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; is firmly established on the throne (of authority); He has subjected the sun and the moon (to his Law)! Each one runs (its course) for a term appointed. He doth regulate all affairs, explaining the signs in detail, that ye may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord.

Shakir 2: Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that you see, and He is firm in power and He made the sun and the moon subservient (to you); each one pursues its course to an appointed time; He regulates the affair, making clear the signs that you may be certain of meeting your Lord.

Pickthal 2: Allah it is Who raised up the heavens without visible supports, then mounted the Throne, and compelled the sun and the moon to be of service, each runneth unto an appointed term; He ordereth the course; He detaileth the revelations, that haply ye may be certain of the meeting with your Lord.

M. Khan 2: Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that you can see. Then, He Istawa (rose above) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He has subjected the sun and the moon (to continue going round)! Each running (its course) for a term appointed. He regulates all affairs, explaining the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) in detail, that you may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord.

French 2: Allah est Celui qui a élevé [bien haut] les cieux sans piliers visibles. Il S'est établi [istawa] sur le Tròne et a soumis le soleil et la lune, chacun poursuivant sa course vers un terme fixé. Il règle l'Ordre [de tout] et expose en détail les signes afin que vous ayez la certitude de la rencontre de votre Seigneur.

Spanish 2: Alá es quien elevó los cielos sin pilares visibles. Luego, se instaló en el Trono y sujetó el sol y la luna, prosiguiendo los dos su curso hacia un término fijo. Él lo dispone todo. Explica detalladamente los signos. Quizás, así, estéis convencidos del encuentro de vuestro Señor.

Indonesian 2: Allah-lah Yang meninggikan langit tanpa tiang (sebagaimana) yang kamu lihat, kemudian Dia bersemayam di atas 'Arsy, dan menundukkan matahari dan bulan. Masing-masing beredar hingga waktu yang ditentukan. Allah mengatur urusan (makhluk-Nya), menjelaskan tanda-tanda (kebesaran-Nya), supaya kamu meyakini pertemuan (mu) dengan Tuhanmu.

Melayu 2: Allah jualah yang menjadikan langit terangkat tinggi dengan tiada bertiang sebagaimana yang kamu melihatnya, kemudian Dia bersemayam di atas Arasy dan Dia memudahkan matahari dan bulan (untuk faedah makhluk-makhlukNya); tiap-tiap satu dari keduanya beredar untuk suatu masa yang telah ditetapkan. Allah jualah yang mentadbirkan segala urusan; Dia menerangkan tanda-tanda kekuasaanNya satu-persatu, supaya kamu yakin kepada pertemuan Tuhan kamu (untuk menerima balasan).

German 2: Allah ist es, Der die Himmel, die ihr sehen könnt, ohne Stützpfeiler emporgehoben hat. Dann herrschte Er über Sein Reich. Und Er machte die Sonne und den Mond dienstbar; jedes (Gestirn) läuft seine Bahn in einer vorgezeichneten Frist. Er bestimmt alle Dinge. Er macht die Zeichen deutlich, auf daß ihr an die Begegnung mit eurem Herrn fest glauben möget.

Russian 2: Аллах вознес небеса без опор, которые вы могли бы увидеть, а затем вознесся на Трон (или утвердился на Троне). Он подчинил солнце и луну, и они движутся к назначенному сроку. Он управляет делами и разъясняет знамения, – быть может, вы будете убеждены во встрече со своим Господом.

Bosnian 2: Allah je nebesa, vidite ih, bez stubova podigao, i onda svemirom zavladao, i Sunce i Mjesec potčinio, svako se kreće do roka određenog; On upravlja svim i potanko izlaže dokaze da biste se uvjerili da ćete pred Gospodara svoga stati.

Urdu 2: الله وہ ہے جس نے آسمانوں کو ستونوں کے بغیر بلند کیا جنہیں تم دیکھ رہے ہو پھر عرش پر قائم ہوا اور سورج اور چاند کو کام پر لگا دیا ہر ایک اپنے وقت معین پر چل رہا ہے وہ ہر ایک کام کاانتظام کرتا ہے نشانیاں کھول کر بتاتا ہے تاکہ تم اپنے رب سے ملنے کا یقین کر لو

Taha| سورة طه


[color=red]14 إِنَّنِي أَنَا اللَّهُ لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا أَنَا فَاعْبُدْنِي وَأَقِمِ الصَّلَاةَ لِذِكْرِي [/color]

Transliteration 14: [color=red]Innanee ana Allahu la ilaha illa ana [/color]faoAAbudnee waaqimi alssalata lithikree

Yusuf Ali 14: "Verily, [color=red]I am Allah. There is no god but I[/color]: So serve thou Me (only), and establish regular prayer for celebrating My praise.

Shakir 14: Surely I am Allah, there is no god but I, therefore serve Me and keep up prayer for My remembrance:

Pickthal 14: Lo! I, even I, am Allah, There is no Allah save Me. So serve Me and establish worship for My remembrance.

M. Khan 14: "Verily! I am Allah! La ilaha illa Ana (none has the right to be worshipped but I), so worship Me, and perform AsSalat (Iqamat-as-Salat) for My Remembrance.

French 14: Certes, c'est Moi Allah: point de divinité que Moi. Adore-Moi donc et accomplis la Salat pour le souvenir de Moi.

Spanish 14: Yo soy, ciertamente, Alá. No hay más dios que Yo. ¡Sírveme, pues, y haz la azalá para recordarme!

Indonesian 14: Sesungguhnya Aku ini adalah Allah, tidak ada Tuhan (yang hak) selain Aku, maka sembahlah Aku dan dirikanlah shalat untuk mengingat Aku.

Melayu 14: Sesungguhnya Akulah Allah; tiada Tuhan melainkan Aku; oleh itu, sembahlah akan Daku dan dirikanlah sembahyang untuk mengingati Daku.

German 14: Wahrlich, Ich bin Allah. Es ist kein Gott außer Mir; darum diene Mir und verrichte das Gebet zu Meinem Gedenken.

Russian 14: Воистину, Я – Аллах! Нет божества, кроме Меня. Поклоняйся же Мне и совершай намаз, чтобы помнить обо Мне.

Bosnian 14: Ja sam, uistinu, Allah, drugog boga, osim Mene, nema; zato se samo Meni klanjaj i molitvu obavljaj - da bih ti uvijek na umu bio!

Urdu 14: بے شک میں ہی الله ہوں میرے سوا کوئی معبود نہیں پس میری ہی بندگی کر اور میری ہی یاد کے لیے نماز پڑھا کر

:D Apple Pie Instead of plagiarizing web-paste…why don’t you stick to the topic of this thread…? outworldish
did you get this from "Answer of the day Napkin"? outworldish
very interesting to see that, after receiving an accurate answer to your question, your stupid remark is always like stated above. Apple Pie
Since you answered twice...which reply would you like to go with...? outworldish
both Apple Pie
The authors of the Koran state that Jesus created the Universe.

How is it that "allah" cannot make this statement, in the first person singular....? outworldish
No matter what you say anymore, you will always be the one that cursed our faith Apple Pie
Why are you ashamed to admit that you worship the "allah" as described within the pages of the Koran? hifriend223 [color=red]Allah the Creator and Lord of the universe[/color]
Allah is the name of the true One God in the Arabic language. Islam is the most rigorously monotheistic religion to the worship of Allah, never seen by a human eye.
Who is Allah? The translation of verses from the Qur'an are given to answer this question. References of the verses are given in brackets, the number before the colon represents the Surah (chapter) and the following number represents the verse number.
Allah, the One Only:
"Proclaim: Allah is One. Allah is Eternal. He neither begets nor was begotten." (112:1-4)
"Nothing is like unto Him." (42:11)
"If there were therein Gods besides Allah, then verily both (the heavens and the earth) would have collapsed into disorder and chaos. Glorified be Allah, the Lord of the Throne, transcendent beyond all they ascribe unto Him." (21:22)
"Sight can never reach Him; His sight reaches all things." (6:103)
"And proclaim: Praise be to Allah, Who has not taken unto Himself a son, and Who has no partner in the Sovereignty, nor has He (need for) any protecting friend through dependence. (17:111)
"Allah. There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory). ." (2:255)
"Is there any God beside Allah? Nay, but they are folk who ascribe equals (unto Him)!" (27:60).
"Is there any God beside Allah? Nay, but most of them know not." (27:61)
[color=red]Allah the Creator[/color]
"Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece, then We parted them, and We made every living thing from water? Will they not then believe?" (21:30)
"And He it is Who created the night and the day, and sun and the moon. They float each in an orbit… And from among His signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate to Allah Who created them, if you (really) worship Him." (21:33, 41:37)
"He has created man: He has imparted unto him articulate thought and speech. [At His behest] the sun and the moon run their appointed courses; the stars and the trees prostrate themselves [before Him]. And the skies has He raised high, and has devised [for all things] a measure, so that you [too, O men,] might never transgress the measure [of what is right]: weigh, therefore, [your deeds] with equity, and cut not the measure short!" (55:3-9)
"It is Allah Who created everything in the best of form…It is He Who created and perfected all things." (32:7, 87:2)
"It is Allah Who created life and death that you may prove yourself worthy in your deeds." (67:2)
"Such is Allah, your Lord. There is no god except Him, the Creator of all things, so serve Him. And He takes care of all things." (6:102)
"He is the Cleaver of the daybreak, and He has appointed the night for stillness, and the sun and the moon to run their appointed courses: [all] this is laid down by the Will of the Almighty, the All-Knowing." (6:96)
"Allah is He Who created seven heavens and of the earth a similar number. Through the midst of them (all) descends His command: that you may know that Allah has power over all things, and that Allah comprehends all things in (His) knowledge." (65:12)
"He it is Who has made the sun a [source of] radiant light and the moon shining [surface], and has determined for it phases so that you might know how to compute the years and to measure [time]. None of this has Allah created without [an inner] truth. Clearly does He spell out these messages unto people of [innate] knowledge." (10:5)
"Allah has indeed made all things in heaven and earth subservient to humankind; it is all from Him. Lo! Herein verily are portents for people who reflect." (45:13)
:D Apple Pie How can the Koranic "allah" be the true creator when he cannot state in the first person singular that he created anything...? The Koran clearly shows that "allah" requires help in creating things. outworldish apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass apple pie is a jack ass Apple Pie
Why are you ashamed to admit that you worship the "allah" as described within the pages of the Koran...? Apple Pie All, Why does the "allah" of the Koran require help from the Son...i.e. The Truth....i.e. The Word...when creating the Universe...? outworldish
Shut your Pie Hole, Dumbass Apple Pie Time and again we discover that "allah" is unable to create anything by himself. Why would this be the case unless the Koranic "allah" is actually just a false god..and not the true creator God of the Universe... outworldish
Get a life Asswipe Apple Pie How is it that Jesus was required to create the Universe for "allah"? outworldish Give it a rest, you freakin dumbass dickheaded cowdung Apple Pie The authors of the Koran wanted the world to know that Jesus Christ created the Universe. outworldish So desperate to seek attention, Do you do this to overcome your shortcomings in intellect and being a prick? Freakin Jerkoff Apple Pie
At what point in time did the authors of the koran understand that "allah" required help in creating the Universe...? :D hifriend223 The qur'ans message about the status of prophet Jesus is clear: 004.171 YUSUFALI translation: O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. Towheed - the oneness of God: al-Ikhlâs - The Purity In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful Say: He is Allah, the One and Only! Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him. Apple Pie
Again...
Look what happens when you fail to look to the Arabic.
The word "trinity" never existed in classic Arabic.
The words "far exulted is he above having" never appear either.
Do you follow Yusuf Ali...or...do you follow the original Arabic of the Koran...?

Repetition helps...
All of the verbs in this ayah are in the imperfect tense...hence there is no denial of a Son in the past...and 4.171 proves that Jesus is the Son. outworldish Apple pie, the all sucking jackass at his stupidity again. LOOOOOSERRRRR Apple Pie
Your "prophet" must be so proud of you... :lol: outworldish Dont know about him, but i am certainly happy to stoop to your level, coz this is the only language that you understand/respond to. hifriend223 ALLAH [ God ]

Islam is the complete submission and obedience to Allah (God).
The name Allah (God) in Islam never refers to Muhammad (pbuh), as many Christians may think; Allah is the personal name of God.
What do Muslims believe about Allah?
1. He is the one God, Who has no partner.
2. Nothing is like Him. He is the Creator, not created, nor a part of His creation.
3. He is All-Powerful, absolutely Just.
4. There is no other entity in the entire universe worthy of worship besides Him.
5. He is First, Last, and Everlasting; He was when nothing was, and will be when nothing else remains.
6. He is the All-Knowing, and All-Merciful,the Supreme, the Sovereign.
7. It is only He Who is capable of granting life to anything.
8. He sent His Messengers (peace be upon them) to guide all of mankind.
9. He sent Muhammad (pbuh) as the last Prophet and Messenger for all mankind.
10. His book is the Holy Qur'an, the only authentic revealed book in the world that has been kept without change.
11. Allah knows what is in our hearts. Apple Pie
The term "allah" is fully rooted in pagan Arab idol worship.
Hence, if you are prostrating yourself to the "allah" as revealed in the pages of the Koran, then you are worshiping the devil. :cry: outworldish Apple pee , Apple pee , Jackass Apple peee
Chickenshit, dickhead, pigfucker, assmunch all of that he can be
Apple pee , Apple pee , Jackass Apple peee
Idiot, Dipshit, Asswipe, Bullshit as long as he will breath hifriend223 Jesus in Islam
1. Do Muslims believe he was a Messenger of One God? [color=red]Yes[/color].
Belief in all of the Prophets and Messengers of God is a fundamental article of faith in Islam. Thus, believing in Prophets Adam, Jesus, Moses, and Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon them) is a requirement for anyone who calls him or herself a Muslim. A person claiming to be a Muslim who, for instance, denies the Messengership of Jesus, is not considered a Muslim.
The Qur'an says in reference to the status of Jesus as a Messenger:
[LEFT]"
The Messiah (Jesus), son of Mary, was no more than a Messenger before whom many Messengers have passed away; and his mother adhered wholly to truthfulness, and they both ate food (as other mortals do). See how We make Our signs clear to them; and see where they are turning away!" (Quran 5:75).
2. Do Muslims believe he was born of a Virgin Mother? [color=red]Yes[/color].
Like Christians, Muslims believe Mary, Maria in Spanish, or Maryam as she is called in Arabic, was a chaste, virgin woman, who miraculously gave birth to Jesus.
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Relate in the Book the story of Mary, when she withdrew from her family, to a place in the East. She screened herself from them; then We sent to her Our spirit (angel Gabriel) and he appeared before her as a man in all respects. She said: I seek refuge from you in God Most Gracious (come not near) if you do fear God. He said: Nay, I am only a Messenger from your Lord, to announce to you the gift of a pure son. She said: How shall I have a son, when no man has ever touched me, and I am not unchaste? He said: So it will be, your Lord says: 'That is easy for Me; and We wish to appoint him as a sign unto men and a Mercy from Us': It was a matter so decreed" (Qur'an 19:16-21).
[left] 3. Do Muslims believe Jesus had a miraculous birth? [color=red]Yes[/color].
The Qur'an says: "She (Mary) said: 'O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me.' He (God) said: 'So (it will be) for God creates what He wills. When He has decreed something, He says to it only: 'Be!'- and it is" (3:47(.
It should also be noted about his birth that: "Verily, the likeness of Jesus in God's Sight is the likeness of Adam. He (God) created him from dust, then (He) said to him: 'Be!'-and he was" (Qura'n 3:59).
Allah (God) the creator of this huge universe is able to do anything, & nothing is impossible for him to do, so when he desires to create a human being from a mother with no father, then it`s is to be done by his will & Mighty, which is not impossible even logically & scienctifically, modern science with modern technology could help to bring a creature from a female without the need for the seed of a male by the use of an already created cell from a mother , this was possible to be done by humans whom are created, why it is impossible to be done by the creator of these scientiests.
4. Do Muslims believe Jesus spoke in the cradle? [color=red]Yes[/color]
"Then she (Mary) pointed to him. They said: 'How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?' He (Jesus) said: 'Verily! I am a slave of God, He has given me the ******ure and made me a Prophet; " (19:29-30(
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this also a prove to his people that he`s a human being selected by Allah to deliver them the message of Allah , so Allah provided him with an extraordinary miracle which is the ability to speak in the cradle .
5. Do Muslims believe he performed miracles? [color=red]Yes[/color].
Muslims, like Christians believe Jesus performed miracles. But these were performed by the will and permission of God, Who has power and control over all things.
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Then will God say: 'O Jesus the son of Mary! recount My favor to you and to your mother. Behold! I strengthened you with the Holy Spirit (the angel Gabriel) so that you did speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught you the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel. And behold: you make out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and you breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by My leave, and you heal those born blind, and the lepers by My leave. And behold! you bring forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the children of Israel from (violence to you) when you did show them the Clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic'" (5:110).
6. Do Muslims believe in the Trinity? [color=red]No[/color].
Muslims believe in the Absolute Oneness of God, Who is a Supreme Being free of human limitations, needs and wants. He has no partners in His Divinity. He is the Creator of everything and is completely separate from His creation.
God says in the Qur'an regarding the Trinity:
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People of the Book (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and attribute to God nothing except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of God, and His command that He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and in His Messengers, and do not say: 'God is a Trinity.' Give up this assertion; it would be better for you. God is indeed just One God. Far be it from His glory that He should have a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth. God is sufficient for a guardian"
(Quran 4:171).
I would like to point out here, that the word Messiah in the above verse comes from (Masaha) which is an Arabic word that means (put the palm of his hands over the affected organ of a person`s body to heal it by the will of Allah)
7. Do Muslims believe that Jesus was the son of God? [color=red]No[/color].
"
Say:"God is Unique! God, the Source [of everything]. He has not fathered anyone nor was He fathered, and there is nothing comparable to Him!"(Quran 112:1-4).
The Qur'an also states: "Such was Jesus, the son of Mary; it is a statement of truth, about which they vainly dispute. It is not befitting to the majesty of God, that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a matter, He only says to it, 'Be' and it is" (Qur'an 9: 34-35)
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how can a logical human being whom blessed with a brain that helps him to distinguish between right & wrong ,compare (the great & Mighty creator of that huge universe which can`t be comprehended with our limited abilities even when using modern technology we can`t comprehend that great & vast universe) with (a human being who has no control over somethings in his life & is directed towards things he didn`t choose & may be weakened in some cases) ,
how is it possible that there is a claim ;that the creator may have a human son? it`s like saying that you may have a baby from an ant? is that possible or even imaginable? this is between two creatures who can see each other , what about two, one is created & the other is the creator , also the created one can`t see the creator
8. Do Muslims believe Jesus was killed on the cross then resurrected? [color=red]No[/color].
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And because of their saying, 'We killed Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God'- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of Jesus was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely they killed him not (Jesus, son of Mary). But God raised him (Jesus) up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And God is ever All-Powerful, All-Wise" (Quran 4:157-158
).
[color=red] yes Jesus did not die, & he will return to earth to live for a certain period decreed by Allah for a certain mission, & then die like any mortal [/color] BMZ
Please keep appreciating brother Apple_Pie's work. :lol: He has lost faith in all the four gospels and is now clinging on to the li'l book which says Jesus was a goat.
You really have lots of patience, Shafique.
Salaams
BMZ BMZ

Apple_Pie,
Do you happen to recognise the names of the Christian MoonGod and his son? :lol:
وَلَكِنَّ يَسُوعَ ظَلَّ صَامِتاً. فَعَادَ رَئِيسُ الْكَهَنَةِ يَسْأَلُهُ: قَالَ: «أَسْتَحْلِفُكَ بِاللهِ الْحَيِّ أَنْ تَقُولَ لَنَا: هَلْ أَنْتَ الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ اللهِ؟»
فَأَجَابَهُ يَسُوعُ: «أَنْتَ قُلْتَ! وَأَقُولُ لَكُمْ أَيْضاً إِنَّكُمْ مُنْذُ الآنَ سَوْفَ تَرَوْنَ ابْنَ الإِنْسَانِ جَالِساً عَنْ يَمِينِ الْقُدْرَةِ ثُمَّ آتِياً عَلَى سُحُبِ السَّمَاءِ!»
فَشَقَّ رَئِيسُ الْكَهَنَةِ ثِيَابَهُ وَصَرَخَ: «قَدْ جَدَّفَ! لاَ حَاجَةَ بِنَا بَعْدُ إِلَى شُهُودٍ. وَهَا أَنْتُمْ قَدْ سَمِعْتُمْ تَجْدِيفَهُ.
Please advise and tell us what is the moongod doing in the above verses?
BMZ BMZ
Apple_Pie,
Leaving your mistranslation aside, Jesus was created within the womb of his mother and was born through the vaginal passage just like all other humans.
He was a good carpenter and might have created some timber masterpieces. :D
BMZ Apple Pie
Who cares about the "jesus" of islam...?
The topic is the Jesus described in the Koran....and, as we have seen....the Koranic authors state that Jesus created the Universe.
We can see that the god "allah" of the Koran never onces states anything even remotely like..."I, "allah" created the heavens and the earth".
"allah" has no power to create....neither does the devil... hifriend223 ALLAH'S GUIDANCE TO MANKIND -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We have now come to know that Allah created the universe, the stars, planets, earth, human beings and all other things in it. He created the first human being, whose name was Adam ('Adam'-means clay or earth, as he was created from clay). Allah has created Adam (peace be upon him) without any father and mother. Then Allah created Eve (Haowa) as Adam's companion and partner from part of Adam's rib bones. 'Haowa' means who has been created from Hai-oo, a living being. Then the whole mankind was created from this single pair of man and woman. "O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know each other (not that you may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things)" Al-Qur'an, 49:13 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- However, there was an exception in creating Jesus, the messenger of Allah. Jesus was created without a father, and there is no miracle on the part of Allah, the Creator to do so, as He created Adam (peace be upon him) without any father and mother before, and He also created Haowa (Eve) from one of the rib bones of Adam (peace be upon him). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- After sending Adam and Haowa to earth, Allah did not sit idle and watch them helpless on earth. He taught Adam how to find living on earth and how to lead their lives there. Allah loves His Creation, especially, the human beings who are the best among Allah's creation. Therefore, He wants to guide human beings towards good. Let us cite a practical example. When we buy an electrical and/electronic appliance, we are given an operating manual from the manufacturer. This manual tells us how to use the appliance and how to look after it so that it provides us with the best service. Likewise, as Allah has created mankind, He is the one Who knows best how human beings should lead their lives on earth. It is the duty of all individuals to learn about Allah and to live according to His will. But we cannot accomplish these by ourselves. Therefore, Allah has sent divine guidance from heaven from time to time to His chosen messengers and prophets on earth to guide humanity. He sent many messenger on earth since Adam was sent. The actual number of them is known to Allah alone. However, we have come to learn the names of some great messengers of Allah through the various holy scriptures. Some of them are: 1. Adam 2. Noah (Nuh) 3. Abraham (Ibrahim) 4. Isaac (Isahaq) 5. Jacob (Yacub-who was later surnamed as 'Israel' by Allah. 'Israel'-means Soldier of Allah) 6. Joseph (Yuosuf) 7. Moses (Musa), 8. David (Dawud) 9. Jesus (Esa), 10. Muhammad (Peace be upon all of them). And most importantly, we have been told that Allah is unique-He has no partners, no sons or daughters, and no competitors. Apple Pie
Not quite...
The god "allah" cannot even state that he, himself, created anything.
What kind of a god do you worship that cannot even state anything like..."I, "allah", created the heavens and the earth".
Please show us just one Koranic ayah which states this... :D hifriend223 We will answer by quoting a number of aayaat (verses) from the Book of Allaah (the Qur’aan ), then you can think to yourself about the matter and if the truth becomes clear to you, you will have no choice but to follow it. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“We created you, then why do you believe not?
Then tell Me (about) the human semen that you emit.
Is it you who create it (i.e., make this semen into a perfect human being), or are We the Creator?
We have decreed death unto you all, and We are not unable,
To transfigure you and create you in (forms) that you know not.
And indeed, you have already known the first form of creation (i.e., the creation of Adam). Why then do you not remember or take heed?
Tell Me! The seed that you sow in the ground.
Is it you that make it grow, or are We the Grower?
Were it Our Will, We could crumble it to dry pieces, and you would be regretful (or left in wonderment),
(Saying), ‘We are indeed Mughramoon (i.e., ruined, or lost the money without any profit, or punished by the loss of all that we spent for cultivation, etc.)!
‘Nay, but we are deprived!’
Tell Me! The water that you drink,
Is it you who cause it from the rainclouds to come down, or are We the Causer of it to come down?
If We willed, We verily could make it salt (and undrinkable). Why then do you not give thanks (to Allaah)?
Tell Me! The fire which you kindle,
Is it you who made the tree thereof to grow, or are We the Grower?
We have made it a Reminder (for the Hell-fire, in the Hereafter); and an article of use for the travellers (and all others, in this world).
The glorify with praises the Name of your Lord, the Most Great.
So I swear by mawaaqi’ (setting to the mansions, etc.) of the stars (they traverse),
And verily, that is indeed a great oath, if you but knew,
That (this) is indeed an honourable recital (the Noble Qur’aan).” [Quran 56:57-77]
Were they created by nothing, or were they themselves the creators?
Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay, but they have no firm Belief. Or are with them the treasures of your Lord? Or are they the tyrants with the authority to do as they like?” [Quran 52:35-37]
“Verily, the creation of the heavens and the earth, and in the alternation of night and day, and the ships which sail through the sea with that which is of use to mankind, and the water (rain) which Allaah sends down from the sky and makes the earth alive therewith after its death, and the moving (living) creatures of all kinds that He has scattered therein, and in the veering of winds and clouds which are held between the sky and the earth, are indeed aayaat (proofs, evidences, signs) for people of understanding.” [Quran 2:164]
“It is He Who sends down water (rain) from the sky, and with it We bring forth vegetation of all kinds, and out of it We bring forth green stalks, from which We bring forth thick clustered grain. And out of the date-palm and its spathe come forth clusters of dates hanging low and near, and gardens of grapes, olives and pomegranates, each similar (in kind) yet different (in variety and taste). Look at their fruits when they begin to bear, and the ripeness thereof. Verily! In these things there are signs for people who believe.” [Quran 6:99]
“And it is He Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His Mercy (rain), till when they have carried a heavy-laden cloud, We drive it to a land that is dead, then We cause water (rain) to descend thereon. Then We produce every kind of fruit therewith. Similarly, We shall raise up the dead, so that you may remember or take heed.” [Quran 7:57]
“Is not He (better than your gods) Who created the heavens and the earth, and sends down for you water (rain) from the sky, whereby We cause to grow wonderful gardens full of beauty and delight? It is not in your ability to cause the growth of their trees. Is there any god with Allaah? Nay, but they are a people who ascribe equals (to Him)!” [Quran 27:60]
“He has created the heavens and the earth without any pillars that you see, and has set on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with you. And He has scattered therein moving (living) creatures of all kinds. And We send down water (rain) from the sky, and We cause (plants) of every goodly kind to grow therein.” [Quran 31:10]
And the two seas (kinds of water) are not alike, this fresh, sweet and pleasant to drink, and that saltish and bitter. And from them both you eat fresh tender meat (fish), and derive the ornaments that you wear. And you see the ships cleaving (the sea-water as they sail through it), that you may seek of His Bounty, and that you may give thanks.” [Quran 35:12]
And it is He Who has let free the two seas (kinds of water), one palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter, and He has set a barrier and a complete partition between them.” [Quran 25:53]
This is a selection of clear aayaat that include the answer to your question. We invite you to join the community of the believers and to enter the religion of Islam which Allaah has chosen as the religion for all mankind. Peace be upon those who follow true Guidance Apple Pie
Again...you failed to even bring one single solitary ayah, out of the entire Koran which states anything in the first-person singular..."I, "allah", created the heavens and the earth"...
Not once in the entire Koran can the god "allah" make this statement!
That is because the god "allah" has no power.
The god "allah" is not the true creator of the Universe. hifriend223 [It is God who raised the skies without support, as you can see, then assumed His throne, and enthralled the sun and the moon (so that) each runs to a predetermined course. He disposes all affairs, distinctly explaining every sign that you may be certain of the meeting with your Lord] (Ar-Ra`d 13:2)

The last of the Abrahamic religions, following Judaism and Christianity, Islam considers the creation of the universe as ultimate proof of the existence of one Creator who “is that dimension which makes other dimensions possible; He gives meaning and life to everything” (Rahman) According to the teachings of Islam, Allah (God) is the one and only god, the absolute Creator of the universe, its components and its laws. Allah is the beginning and the end of all things, and this is the foundation for Islam’s teachings.
The Qur’an is the word of Allah as passed down to Muslims through the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and the existence of only one version of the Qur’an (there are no dissimilarities between any two copies) attests to the reverence in which Muslims hold it. For Muslims, the Qur’an, containing the word of Allah, provides irrefutable proof of His existence. Along with the Qur’an, nature provides another source for the proof of Allah’s existence. This intimate relationship between the Qur’an and nature is shown in the phrase ayat, which refers to signs of Allah’s existence in nature and also refers to the verses in the Qur’an.
The Creation
In Islam, the world as man knows it, begins and ends with Allah. Unlike Christianity and Judaism, the creation process is not described in detail, but referred to as a starting point for Allah’s power. The creation story in Islam is described in the Qur’an as the creation of the universe by Allah’s will with a single command: “Be!” Several verses in the Qur’an highlight Allah’s power of creation: [Creator of the heavens and the earth from nothingness, He has only to say when He wills a thing: “Be,” and it is] (Al-Baqarah 2:117) and, [That is how God creates what He wills, when He decrees a thing, He says “Be,” and it is] (Aal `Imran 3:47). Apple Pie
Nope...
You still have failed in your mission to google even so much as one single solitary Koranic ayah which states ...."I, "allah", created the heavens and the earth"...
How hard can this be....? :shock: hifriend223 Allah states this in the Qur’an:
Taha | 135 verses | Taha سورة طه
Sura #20 | Makkah




2 مَا أَنزَلْنَا عَلَيْكَ الْقُرْآنَ لِتَشْقَى

Transliteration 2: Ma anzalna AAalayka alqurana litashqa

Yusuf Ali 2: We have not sent down the Qur'an to thee to be (an occasion) for thy distress,

Shakir 2: We have not revealed the Quran to you that you may be unsuccessful.

Pickthal 2: We have not revealed unto thee (Muhammad) this Qur'an that thou shouldst be distressed,

M. Khan 2: We have not sent down the Quran unto you (O Muhammad SAW) to cause you distress,

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3 إِلَّا تَذْكِرَةً لِّمَن يَخْشَى

Transliteration 3: Illa tathkiratan liman yakhsha

Yusuf Ali 3: But only as an admonition to those who fear ((Allah)),-

Shakir 3: Nay, it is a reminder to him who fears:

Pickthal 3: But as a reminder unto him who feareth,

M. Khan 3: But only as a Reminder to those who fear (Allah).


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4 تَنزِيلًا مِّمَّنْ خَلَقَ الْأَرْضَ وَالسَّمَاوَاتِ الْعُلَى

Transliteration 4: Tanzeelan mimman khalaqa alarda waalssamawati alAAula

Yusuf Ali 4: A revelation from Him Who created the earth and the heavens on high.

Shakir 4: A revelation from Him Who created the earth and the high heavens.

Pickthal 4: A revelation from Him Who created the earth and the high heavens,

M. Khan 4: A revelation from Him (Allah) Who has created the earth and high heavens.


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5 الرَّحْمَنُ عَلَى الْعَرْشِ اسْتَوَى

Transliteration 5: Alrrahmanu AAala alAAarshi istawa

Yusuf Ali 5: ((Allah)) Most Gracious is firmly established on the throne (of authority).

Shakir 5: The Beneficent Allah is firm in power.

Pickthal 5: The Beneficent One, Who is established on the Throne.

M. Khan 5: The Most Beneficent (Allah) Istawa (rose over) the (Mighty) Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty).

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6 لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا وَمَا تَحْتَ الثَّرَى

Transliteration 6: Lahu ma fee alssamawati wama fee alardi wama baynahuma wama tahta alththara

Yusuf Ali 6: To Him belongs what is in the heavens and on earth, and all between them, and all beneath the soil.

Shakir 6: His is what is in the heavens and what is in the earth and what is between them two and what is beneath the ground.

Pickthal 6: Unto Him belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth, and whatsoever is between them, and whatsoever is beneath the sod.

M. Khan 6: To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on the earth, and all that is between them, and all that is under the soil.

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7 وَإِن تَجْهَرْ بِالْقَوْلِ فَإِنَّهُ يَعْلَمُ السِّرَّ وَأَخْفَى

Transliteration 7: Wain tajhar bialqawli fainnahu yaAAlamu alssirra waakhfa

Yusuf Ali 7: If thou pronounce the word aloud, (it is no matter): for verily He knoweth what is secret and what is yet more hidden.

Shakir 7: And if you utter the saying aloud, then surely He knows the secret, and what is yet more hidden.

Pickthal 7: And if thou speakest aloud, then lo! He knoweth the secret (thought) and (that which is yet) more hidden.

M. Khan 7: And if you (O Muhammad SAW) speak (the invocation) aloud, then verily, He knows the secret and that which is yet more hidden.

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8 اللَّهُ لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا هُوَ لَهُ الْأَسْمَاءُ الْحُسْنَى

Transliteration 8: Allahu la ilaha illa huwa lahu alasmao alhusna

Yusuf Ali 8: Allah. there is no god but He! To Him belong the most Beautiful Names.

Shakir 8: Allah-- there is no god but He; His are the very best names.

Pickthal 8: Allah! There is no Allah save Him. His are the most beautiful names.

M. Khan 8: Allah! La ilahla illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He)! To Him belong the Best Names.

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14 [color=red]إِنَّنِي أَنَا اللَّهُ[/color] لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا أَنَا فَاعْبُدْنِي وَأَقِمِ الصَّلَاةَ لِذِكْرِي

Transliteration 14: Innanee ana Allahu la ilaha illa ana faoAAbudnee waaqimi alssalata lithikree

Yusuf Ali 14: [color=red]"Verily, I am Allah. There is no god but I[/color]: So serve thou Me (only), and establish regular prayer for celebrating My praise.

Shakir 14: Surely I am Allah, there is no god but I, therefore serve Me and keep up prayer for My remembrance:

Pickthal 14: Lo! I, even I, am Allah, There is no Allah save Me. So serve Me and establish worship for My remembrance.

M. Khan 14: "Verily! I am Allah! La ilaha illa Ana (none has the right to be worshipped but I), so worship Me, and perform AsSalat (Iqamat-as-Salat) for My Remembrance.

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You still have failed :( to understand what writen...

And you wont understand

And you will never understand
How hard can this be....? Apple Pie Keep trying... If the god "allah" was the creator of the Universe, then he would state in the first person singular that he create it. However, he never once states this, as you have confirmed. "allah" has no power. He is a false god. Just be honest with yourself... :wink: outworldish
In the English language, the Queen of England refers to herself as 'We' instead of 'I'. This is known as the 'royal plural'.
Does it mean that there are two queens of england?
If being honest to ourselves is accepting your lies, then we would like to stay far from this type of honesty. Apple Pie
English is not classic Arabic.
Plural of majesty never existed in classic Arabic.
Thus, when you see "we" in the Koran, is it a direct indicator of plurality of deity.
When you see "we" created, in the Koran, it means that "allah" required help in creating.
The pagan god "allah" never once states in the first-person singular..."I created"....as he is a false god....he has no creative power whatsoever.
However, we have numerous Koranic instances of the Son , the Word , i.e. Jesus Christ creating the Universe, in the Koran.
Jesus Christ is the true creator God of the Universe.
Even the authors of the Koran knew this... BMZ
The church was founded by the pagan Gentiles and was based upon lies, told by many, including the self-loathing sinner Paul and men like Martin Luther. Please read my signature. :D
Salaams
BMZ Apple Pie Perhaps brother BMZ can help out his fellow followers of islam, and give us just one Koranic ayah which states....."I, "allah", created the heavens and the earth"....
Then again....probably not.... :wink: hifriend223 Try to open your eyes like this man :arrow: :shock:
Sura #20 | Taha سورة طه
[color=red]14 إِنَّنِي أَنَا اللَّهُ لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا أَنَا فَاعْبُدْنِي وَأَقِمِ الصَّلَاةَ لِذِكْرِي [/color]
Transliteration 14: Innanee ana Allahu la ilaha illa ana faoAAbudnee waaqimi alssalata lithikree
Yusuf Ali 14: "Verily, [color=red]I am Allah[/color]. There is no god but I: So serve thou Me ([color=red]only[/color]), and establish regular prayer for celebrating My praise.
Shakir 14: Surely [color=red]I am Allah, there is no god but [/color]I, therefore serve Me and keep up prayer for My remembrance:
Pickthal 14: [color=red]Lo! I, even I, am Allah, There is no Allah save Me. So serve Me and establish worship for My remembrance[/color].
M. Khan 14: "Verily! I am Allah! La ilaha illa Ana ([color=red]none has the right to be worshipped but I[/color]), so worship Me, and perform AsSalat (Iqamat-as-Salat) for My Remembrance
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The word Allah in the Arabic language means God, or more accurately, The One and Only Eternal God, only Creator of the Universe, Lord of all lords, King of all kings, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. The word Allah to mean God is also used by Arabic speaking Jews and Christians. Apple Pie
Try again...
This ayah does not have the pagan god "allah" stating that he created anything in the first person singular.
The god "allah" has no power to create. hifriend223 وَقُلْ جَاءَ الْحَقُّ وَزَهَقَ الْبَاطِلُ إِنَّ الْبَاطِلَ كَانَ زَهُوقًا

And say: "Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish."

[color=red]A L L A H
The Creator and Lord of the Universe[/color]
Allah is the name of the true One God in the Arabic language. In the Hebrew language His name is Eloh, Elohim for respect. It is well known that when a word is borrowed from one language to another it’s spelling and pronunciation is often altered. It is, therefore, reasonable to say that Eloh and Allah are names of the same Deity of Abraham believed by the three monotheistic religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Islam is the most rigorously monotheistic religion among the three dedicated to the worship of Allah, never seen by a human eye.
Who is Allah? The translation of verses form the Qur’an are given to answer this question. References of the verses are given in brackets, the number before the colon represents the Surah (chapter) and the following number represents the verse number.
Allah, the One Only:
1. "Proclaim: Allah is One. Allah is Eternal. He neither begets nor was begotten." (112:1-4)
2. "Nothing is like unto Him." (42:11)
3. "If there were therein Gods besides Allah, then verily both (the heavens and the earth) would
have collapsed into disorder and chaos. Glorified be Allah, the Lord of the Throne,
transcendent beyond all they ascribe unto Him." (21:22)
4. "Sight can never reach Him; His sight reaches all things." (6:103)
5. "And proclaim: Praise be to Allah, Who has not taken unto Himself a son, and Who has no
partner in the Sovereignty, nor has He (need for) any protecting friend through dependence.
(17:111)
6. "Allah! There is no God save Him." (3:2, 2:255)
7. "Is there any God beside Allah? Nay, but they are folk who ascribe equals (unto Him)!
(27:60).
8. "Is there any God beside Allah? Nay, but most of them know not." (27:61)
Attributes of Allah: Muslims talk about ninety-nine attributes of Allah; a few are given in the following verses of the Qur’an.
"And He is the Mighty, the Wise. His is the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth; He gives life and He gives death; and He is able to do all things. He is the First and the Last, and the Outward and the Inward; and He is the Knower of all things." (57:1-3)
"Allah is He, than Whom there is no other deity. He knows (all things) both secret and open; He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Allah is He, than Whom there is no other deity; the Sovereign, the Holy One, the Source of Peace (and Perfection), the Guardian of Faith, the Preserver of Safety, the Exalted in Might, the Irresistible, the Supreme: Glory to Allah! (High is He) above the partners they attribute to Him. He is Allah the Creator, the Evolver, the Bestower of Forms (and Colors). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names: Whatever is the heavens and on earth, do declare His Praise and Glory; and He is exalted in Might, the Wise." (59:22-24)
"Allah! There is no God save Him, the Alive, the Eternal. Neither slumber nor sleep overtakes Him. Unto Him belongs whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Who is he that intercedes with Him save by His permission? He knows that which is in front of them and that which is behind them, while they encompass nothing of His knowledge save what He will. His throne includes the heavens and the earth, and He is never weary of preserving them. He is the Sublime, the Tremendous." (2:255)
"The Originator of the heavens and the earth!" (6:101)
"The Beneficent, the Merciful: Owner of the Day of Judgment. (1:3-4)
"Say: Call upon Allah, or call upon Ar-Rahman: by whatever name you call upon Him, (it is well): For to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names." (17:110)
"And you seek the Grace of Allah: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (73:20)
"The revelation of this Book is from Allah, Exalted in Power, Full of Knowledge, Who forgives sin, accepts repentance, is strict in punishment, and has a long reach (in all things). There is no god but He: to Him is the Final Goal." (40:2-3)
Allah the Creator:
"Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece, then We parted them, and We made every living thing from water? Will they not then believe?" (21:30)
[color=red][In this verse ‘We’ belongs to imperial language, not of plurality. In the Qur’an, Allah uses ‘I’, ‘Me’ ‘We’ and ‘Us’ for Himself.][/color]
"And He it is Who created the night and the day, and sun and the moon. They float each in an orbit… And from among His signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate to Allah Who created them, if you (really) worship Him." (21:33, 41:37)
"He has created man: He has imparted unto him articulate thought and speech. [At His behest] the sun and the moon run their appointed courses; the stars and the trees prostrate themselves [before Him]. And the skies has He raised high, and has devised [for all things] a measure, so that you [too, O men,] might never transgress the measure [of what is right]: weigh, therefore, [your deeds] with equity, and cut not the measure short! (55:3-9)
"It is Allah Who created everything in the best of form…It is He Who created and perfected all things." (32:7, 87:2)
"It is Allah Who created life and death that you may prove yourself worthy in your deeds." (67:2)
"Such is Allah, your Lord. There is no god except Him, the Creator of all things, so serve Him. And He takes care of all things." (6:102)
"He is the Cleaver of the daybreak, and He has appointed the night for stillness, and the sun and the moon to run their appointed courses: [all] this is laid down by the Will of the Almighty, the All-Knowing. (6:96)
"Allah is He Who created seven heavens and of the earth a similar number. Through the midst of them (all) descends His command: that you may know that Allah has power over all things, and that Allah comprehends all things in (His) knowledge." (65:12)
"He it is Who has made the sun a [source of] radiant light and the moon shining [surface], and has determined for it phases so that you might know how to compute the years and to measure [time]. None of this has Allah created without [an inner] truth. Clearly does He spell out these messages unto people of [innate] knowledge." (10:5)
"Allah has indeed made all things in heaven and earth subservient to humankind; it is all from Him. Lo! Herein verily are portents for people who reflect." (45:13)
Allah, the Sustainer, the Cherisher, the Lord (Al-Rabb):
"All praise is due to Allah Alone, the Lord [the Sustainer, the Cherisher] of the worlds." (1:2)
"Everything We have created and prescribed for its measure, its character and destiny…No creature creeps on earth but Allah provides for it its sustenance. He knows its purpose and destiny. For it is He Who prescribed them in His eternal order…The sun rises and sets traversing its orbit exactly as the Almighty, the All Knowing has ordained. And the moon passes regularly through its phases, returning to its original thin crescent form. Neither sun nor moon overtakes the other; neither night nor day deviates from their preordained courses. Each moves in the orbit Allah has ordained for it. (54:49, 11:6, 36:38-40)
In the Qur’an, the name Allah is used more than 2,600 times and His attribute, Al-Rabb (the Lord, the Cherisher, the Sustainer), has been used over 1,000 times.
Allah Revealed the Truth - Option Given:
"We revealed to you the Book in truth, that you may proclaim it to the world. Whoever decides to be guided by its guidance does so to his own credit. Whoever rejects its guidance does so to his own discredit and you are not a warder over them." (39:41)
"Let there be no compulsion [or coercion] in religion: Truth stands out clear from error; whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things." (2:256)
"And say: The Truth [has now come] from your Lord: let, then him who wills, believe in it, and let him who wills, reject it." (18:29)
"And if your Lord willed, all who are in the earth would have believed together. Would you [Muhammad] compel men until they are believers?" (10:99)
"No person is responsible for the guilt of another. To every person belongs the racious, Most Merciful. Allah is He, than Whom there is no other deity; the Sovereign, the Holy One, the Source of Peace (and Perfection), the Guardian of Faith, the Preserver of Safety, the Exalted in Might, the Irresistible, the Supreme: Glory to Allah! (High is He) above the partners they attribute to Him. He is Allah the Creator, the Evolver, the Bestower of Forms (and Colors). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names: Whatever is the heavens and on earth, do declare His Praise and Glory; and He is exalted in Might, the Wise." (59:22-24)
"Allah! There is no God save Him, the Alive, the Eternal. Neither slumber nor sleep overtakes Him. Unto Him belongs whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Who is he that intercedes with Him save by His permission? He knows that which is in front of them and thmitted injustice will be assigned to the Fire which they denied." (34:25,42)
"Say: Are those who know equal with those who know not? But only men of understanding will pay heed." (39:9)
"There is not an animal in the earth nor a flying creature flying on two wings, but they are community like unto you. We have neglected nothing in the Book. Then unto their Lord they will be gathered." (6:38)
"Allah has made what is in the heavens and on the earth subservient to you… And He has made subservient to you the sun and the moon, predetermined in their orbits, and the day and the night… It is Allah Who made you His trustees on earth… Can you not see that Allah made all that is on earth subservient to you?" (14:33, 31:29, 35:39, 22:65)
Allah was the God-in-Chief of the Pagan Arabs:
"If indeed you ask them (the pagan Arabs) who has created the heavens and the earth and subjected the sun and the moon (to His Law), they will certainly reply, ‘Allah’… And if indeed you ask them Who it is that sends down rain from the sky, and gives life therewith to the earth after its death, they will certainly reply, ‘Allah!’" (29:61,63; similar message is found in 31:25; 39:38; 43:9)
"And those unto whom they (the pagan Arabs) call instead of Him (Allah) possess no power of intercession, … And if you ask them who created them (gods of the pagans and pagans themselves), they will surely say, ‘Allah!’" (43:86,87) Apple Pie
Wrong.
Plural of majesty never existed in classic Arabic.
This is a modern Islamic invention.
Further, this is in the first-person plural....indicating that "allah" needs help in creating...
We asked for the first-person singular.
Try again... hifriend223 أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم I seek refuge with God from the stoned Shaitan (Satan) بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم In the name of Allah, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful *** أَوَلَمْ يَرَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَنَّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ كَانَتَا رَتْقاً فَفَتَقْنَاهُمَا وَجَعَلْنَا مِنَ الْمَاء كُلَّ شَيْءٍ حَيٍّ أَفَلَا يُؤْمِنُونَ 21.30 . Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece , then We parted them , and We made every living thing of water? Will they not then believe? Surah Al-Anbiyaa Surah 21 Ayah 30 It is commonly known among serious scientists and particularly among astronomists that there was a Big Bang at the beginning of the universe. The Big Bang theory showed that in the beginning all the objects in the universe were of one piece and then were parted. This fact, which was revealed by the Big Bang theory was stated in the Quran 14 centuries ago, when people had a very limited knowledge about the universe... outworldish And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their religion. Say: Surely Allah's guidance, that is the guidance. And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, you shall have no guardian from Allah, nor any helper. 002.120 Quran
I have put it in bold so my muslim brothers may take heed. Apple Pie
The Big Bang was accurately described in the Holy Bible thousands of years BEFORE the Koran was penned.
Further, the Holy Bible states that Jesus Christ created the Universe....and...so does the Koran...

Wrong.
Nothing was parted in the Big Bang.
It originated as pure energy and then later cooled into matter.
Matter is energy in a cooled state....they are not "separated".... outworldish 002.135 Quran
And they say: Be Jews or Christians, you will be on the right course. Say: Nay! (we follow) the religion of Ibrahim, the upright, and he was not one of the polytheists.
005.018 Quran
And the Jews and the Christians say: We are the sons of Allah and His beloved ones. Say: Why does He then chastise you for your faults? Nay, you are mortals from among those whom He has created, He forgives whom He pleases and chastises whom He pleases; and Allah's is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and what is between them, and to Him is the eventual coming.
005.051 Quran
O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
009.030 Quran
And the Jews say: Uzair(Ezra) is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah(Jesus/Eesa) is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
The above verses are enough as witness against the Jews and the Christians regarding their claims.



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