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baba90 im so fucken depressed in the usa, and i want to move to dubai. but my paretns dont want to.... we visit dubai like 4 tiems a year. im so fuckne pissd. someone help me
Mayflower hi , just learn to enjoy the place u r living - think abt N number of people whose life time dream is to get settled in US ... u know i was feeling so depressed when i moved in here some 3 months back ... now somehow i got used to this life ... by the way r r staying with ur family there or alone? baba90 iv been living in the usa for my whole life... and i all i see (not to offend anyone) are ignorant,rude, racist people around me. because of my beliefes in islam i have heard of many comments towards me regarding my religion. and yes i do live with my paretns because i am not yet an adult. in dubai i find life more welcoming and more interesting. here in the usa you are working your whole life and have no time for freedom. also i love the fact that dubai is a muslim country. but still you get to see many other nationalities bringin their culture and religion to dubai. it makes dubai more social. shaakira I can understand why you are so depressed in the USA brother/sister, I mean look how its taught you to become vulgar like them :( baba90 im not vulgur..... shakira are u goin through pms? sniper420
HAHAHAAHA now that's really messed up dude! First it was really rude to ask her that question. Second since u told us you are not an adult-no,no,no I aint telling u that u arent mature but asking u to think practically. US has one of the great justice system in the world-no doubt about it. Anybody tells anything at ur face(especially after 9/11 ppl are paranoid), get some witness and yes good thing of US is the lawyers there after assessing the situation can sue the guy who insulted u and yes they Wont take a cent from u even after u LOSE the case but in Canada u do :( yes yes else I would have made monnie. Now back to the topic. Dubai is muslim land - true, but do U really think there are rational ppl here? If the love among muslim bro were so much there wouldnt have been iran iraq war, gulf war 1&2 and black September. Yes read about black september to see ur own bros insulted by their bros. SO what am I getting at? My point is here if a local Arab or worst a local sheikh insults u racially, I bet by Jove I will put my whole money I have to bet if u eva get any justice. My final advice- Wait till the time is ripe like me and u will enjoy the fruit. Learn why are ur parents hesitant and what's ur plan in Dubai. Liban The USA in particular is the main point from which sin and all things anti-God tend to emanate. It is an evil country hell bent on destroying God's planet. It is a scurge. I spit on the US... They make a mockery of everything and everyone. I lived in Canada for a long time so I know very well the USA's evil. My city was a one hour drive away. The US is decadent. The US is evil. The US is a scurge. I spit on the US government and its evangelists and jews. I curse them. Disclaimer --> When I say US, I mean the "authorities", "gouvernment", evangelist leaders, jews (they all all zionist swine). Linda_Stuiv
Jeez....
1-A little unimportant fact: USA and Europe inbetween them have been responsible for 85% of the violent deaths in the 20th century. Europe has invented racism/imperialism/colonialism which many countries still suffer from it's aftermath today.
2-Black September...... so what? Catholics and Protestants have been at eachother's throats for centuries (still are in Ireland). Does that tell you that all catholics/protestants are "violent" people?
3-please don't dwell on the Hollywood stories and whatever incidents the media brings up. Muslims were and still are being discriminated against in the worst ways, and under the cloak of the law.
If you're unlucky enough to come across a Shiekh, and somehow piss him/her off, and for him to racially insult you, it would be the end of it anyway. Whereas in the US you'd get an FBI agent ready to shoot you in the head if you resist him arresting you and screweing your home, all based on your race and religion and under the protection of the law.
Gimme a break.
Yeah, the legal system might be better in the US, generally speaking, but certianly not when it comes to muslims, and don't you quote "sponsored" media charades, I'm talking about everyday discrimination. kanelli
Liban, has God talked to you lately and told you that the US is a scourge on his creation? This kind of hateful talk sounds like the rhetoric you'd hear from an over-zealous cleric who wants to poison the minds of Muslim youth and turn them into jihadists. Scary.
Well, it is a shame that you are so filled with hate for the US. I don't like what the US has become because of its super-capitalist ideals, but the US has a lot going for it in other ways. For example, innovation and personal freedom and democracy.
Most of the Muslim world seems backward when it comes to innovation, individual freedom and democracy. There are groups of Islamic terrorists blowing themselves up to slaughter innocent people. Despite this, you won't catch me saying that I hate the Muslim world. As a white Western woman I am biased against here, but you won't catch me saying that I hate this place. Why? Because I choose to understand where other people are coming from and what shapes their views. Even if I don't agree with them, at least I have some respect and understanding. Liban
1) Zealot?? Hmmm... I don't think so... So what the hell is George Bush?
2) US full of freedom? Hmm... Yep, you are not a Muslim I see. Ask a Muslim "living" in the US if he/she feels free.
3) Blowing yourself up to slauter innocent people? Hmm... As per law, all Israelis are supposed to be ready to be called into draft at any time, so they are all targets. Americans in Iraq? They are invadors, invadors should die. What else? Chechens fighting against Russian invadors, ditto...
Before you speak, think, roll your tongue seven times your mouth, and then say something. (French expression).
The West will fall and the Arab Nation will rise and the western world shall feel the wrath of a people put down for so long.

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kanelli Let's hope it doesn't come down to that... because the results would be quite bad for the Arab world. I'm certain it won't because it is only little freaky groups of radical people who want war with the West. They are the minority, thankfully. sniper420
Isnt that hypocrisy? If u were so anti-west why the hell did u become a canadian citizen? Enjoyed the fruits of Canadian freedom and welfare and now u go back to a Gulf state and preach ur hatred against west. Sheer Hypocrisy. :x kanelli Tell me about it Sniper. I wish Canadian immigration would weed such people out. No wonder Western countries are afraid. They welcome Arabs in to join the society, only to find out they are full of hate and some try to harm. Very sad. Liban
Keep dreaming..... Arab armies once reached Vienna and Southern France and can do it again, once the meddling in our affairs by your overlords stop. Liban
If I had enjoyed the "freedom" and "openess" I endured in the West, then I would still be there.
I am an open and respectful person. But most Westerners I have known have left me with a sour taste in my mouth.
Thats not to say that all Westerners are the same. I will not generalize like Kanelli or whatever his/her name is. I know quite a few and they are very friendly, sweet, and likeable people.
Inshallah, God spares those people and takes them way out of harms way when we Arabs rise up or on Judgement Day. Liban
Thankyou very much Mr. Generalisation...
Now look who's sad... Mayflower ok liban, talking abt religious tolerance and freedom ... let us just look how many mosques and hindu temples are there in US and how many churches and hindu temples have they allowed in the middle east - very less compared to the former - does this spark anything in ur tiny head - even then u won't accept - islam is a great religion but its muslims like u who makes a mess of it by insulting other cultures and its becos of people like u, the whole world sees muslim people in the wrong perspective and no one culture can raise above others and wish to rule the world ... unless u learn to coexist and tolerage with others, its going to be a doom to the whole humanity kanelli Learn how to read Liban - I said SOME. You won't win a competition about who is more tolerant - I'd win hands down. As I told you, I have Arab friends in Canada and elsewhere. None of them talk the way you talk, thankfully. Liban
1) Re-read my response with your quote. The word SOME is not there. Now you learn how to read.. 8)
2) Whatever makes you sleep better at night...
3) Does having Arab freinds make you feel better about being a bigot?
arniegang
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keep you ill-informed opinions to yourself. Who said western countries are affraid?
I'll tell you what we fear, is the arseholes who fly into building and those that strap bombs to themselves killing innocent people.
The other 99.9% of Arabs are peaceful law abiding citizens, and yes the west welcomes them with open arms, we do not fear them. Liban
And lets look at how all the mosques in the US are being watched as part of their great Patriot Act...
Now lets look at the chruches in Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, UAE, Oman, Yemen, Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain, and Qatar.... Now one of them is under surveillance. Not a single Christian expat has been fingerprinted or imprisoned or deported as part of some Patriot Act in those countries.
Yes, lets speak of tolerence.
And before you speak of Saudi, as most non-Muslims like to... Lets see, Saudi is our Holy Land. Now, how many mosques are there in the cradle of Catholicism?? The Vatican?? Hmm... Yes, I see... kanelli You disagreeing with me does not make me a bigot. Read again - SOME is there. If you doubt me, I'll tell you again. I don't paint all Arabs with the same brush. My beef is with hateful fanatics who spew venom at the West. Arniegang - the Sept. 11 terrorists lived in the States and interacted with American citizens. Many people thought they were nice guys and harmless. Imagine how it feels to take the metro in London and wonder if more bombs will go off? Lots of perfectly innocent Muslims living in the city, but who knew that there were others aiming to kill people? How are people supposed to trust? How can people tell who is dangerous and who isn't? The terrorists love this, and they are making the situation terrible for the GOOD Muslims living in the country. I'm surprised that I even have to explain this. arniegang
And liban
the same goes for you my friend. The west will fall - yea right, dream on.
"the Arab nation will rise" thats piss funny, it wasn't that long ago Iran and Iraq was kicking the crap out of each other. arniegang kanelli maybe its just your english, but you are making it sound more generalised regarding arabs as a whole as opposed the the minority of extremists. anyway we do not really fear them. It just concerns us. And please dont preach to me about the london bombings, my daughter at university walked past the place the bus that blew up only 15 mins before it went off. She lives in the same street. Liban
1) Thats what they said of the Egyptians, Greece, Persia, Rome, Austro-Hungary, Napoleon's empire, the Ottomons, the Third Reich, the USSR... They all fell. Thats what large empires do. They last, they do, they fall...
2) Iran is not an Arab country, so I fail to uderstand your point here. arniegang
The answer is easy Liban - the westerners you speak of ie us, are not going around with bombs straped to their bodies, thats why we are not being watched.
your extremists rants Liban are of serious concern. Liban
Its all sad, I agree. Death is not a good thing.
However nothing can compare to the largest terrorist action ever undertaken in the history of mankind. THE BALFOUR DECLARATION. This initiated the creation of Israel and the carnage that followed.
Shame on you too. arniegang
ohhhhhhh are we talking Arabic here or Muslim lol??? Liban
No westerners do not strap bombs on themselves. Their money allows them to develop bombs and means to deliver them. Thats how they blow us up. Liban
I never referenced an Islamic Caliphate. That is an unattainable dream at this stage. I refer to the Arab Nation. arniegang
blow who up my friend?? Liban
Everytime an Arab says something against Israel or the West or just plain something different than mainstream Judeo--Christain thinking, the poor Arab is referred to as an extremist... :roll: kanelli That wasn't my intention. I'll try to mind my wording in the future. If terrorism didn't happen on home soil in the US, or UK etc., the people would not have reason to be "concerned" or "afraid" of a group of people who might try to harm them. I'm not saying it is right, and people should get a grip and not assume that all Arabs are hateful. arniegang
Israel - thats what all this ranting is about ehhhhhhhhhhhh. To be honest most of us "westerners" actually dont give a shite about the arab-israelli conflict. kanelli
And if one points out that an Arab is being hateful, one is called a bigot. :) arniegang
and with respect Liban there is a huge difference between discussion and the tone of hatred with the way you speak. You my friend represent that minority of Arabs that have this extremist view and hatred.
Liban, when you discuss your fellow Arabs, either speak for yourself or you and your minority, not the Arab nation as a whole - they just may not feel so stongly as you do Liban
Blow us up... Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon, come to mind.... Liban
Really, so why are your governments all involved? kanelli Excellent post arniegang. I'm also one of those Westerners who doesn't give a crap about the Arab-Israeli conflict, except for the fact that I want to see some peace as soon as possible. Peace is always better than hatred and death. Liban
Touche :D Liban
You are not an Arab and have not suffered like we have. Especially us from the Levant and Fertile Crescent. So you wouldn't know what we think. arniegang
Its so easy to put words into others mouths isnt it ??
Please copy where i have referred to you "a bigot" please. Dont bother because i havent
Imagination......................................... its called Liban
He is referring to me 8) kanelli
They shouldn't be involved in anything except brokering a peace deal. Anything outside of that is not appropriate. kanelli Arniegang, I was talking to Liban on that one, not you! :) arniegang
Iraq - well my friend i dont think we need go there, they spent most of their time mass killing each other before we stepped in and......
Regards the other 2 please post the number of instances that a westerner has "bombed" Palestine and the Lebanon.
Anwers on a postcard please
:lol: :lol: kanelli
Of course we can empathise. I personally just don't see it as an excuse to continue hating and killing. Everyone on this earth has a right to live in peace, work, feed their families. arniegang
governments of all nations have their own agenda's - i am referring to "the ordinary man in the street"
and no , we really dont give a shite - generally. Yes there will be a minority that are very vocal - but there again Liban so are you!!!
Now give me an example of any "ordinary" westerner comment, within these forums or anywhere else that speaks with the same tone and hatred you do. arniegang If we were to apply the same hatred rules you apply Liban, ordinary western people like me would be posting "hate arab" "hate Muslim" hate hate hate etc. Now, take 9/11 - 3500 died because of some twat exteremist Saudi - Liban quote us all here please any westerner comments that "we hate hate hate Arabs". Liban we hate the minority - not the people or the nation - that is what separates people like us from people like you - With respect. And that also what separates the average westerner etremeist from the average Arab extremeist The westerner may rant about it - but he doesnt strap bombs to himself. arniegang Liban Below i have copied 2 comments from another thread one from Kanelli and the reply from you. Take time to look at the difference of tone, in what Kanelli's comment prompted you to reply. Kanelli wrote : " Any people like Liban would be dangerous to be around - a fake smile of friendship with hate lurking behind". Liban Wrote: "Oh bite me you moron. You don't know me, so shut the fcuk up. You will never get to know me because I don't befriend people below me. You feel me... I dare you to speak to me like this in person. I dog dare you to even try and speak ill of me in person... You want extemist? Heh! I'll whip you to the extreme. Then you'll know extremist... PUSSYYYYY!!!!! Now read and understand this Liban - You are so filled with hatred, it really doesnt matter what any of us say because you are so transfixed in your very narrow minded viewpoint. "Let peace be on earth" - thats a fekin joke Liban with people with attitude like you about. Its so easy to see why there is so much unrest in the world today. Liban
Well buddy, then in the so-called "free world" why don't people tell their governments precisely that? Why don't they vote to stop funding militarily the ennemies of Arabia, like Israel?
Because freedom to change the foreign policy of your country is still not possible in the West. So I put it to you that the West is NOT 100% free even to its nationals. Liban
Thankyou Kanelli. So please make your goverments stop meddling in our affairs like they do throughout the Arab world. Make them stop funding Israel, our sworn ennemy. Become the true brokers of peace.
And you will see. All this crap between us and you will come to an end.
Remember as Christians and Muslims are historically closer than the Jews are top any of them.
A Christian helped our Prophet when he was hurt. He eventually converted to Islam since Christians are also people of the book. The Christian Emperor of Abbysiania (Etheopia) protected the first Muslims from the heathen Meccans of the time.
Peace is attainable as long as the west makes a concerted effort to mend was it wraught... Liban To Arniegang. You are just trying to stoke me and thats not going to work anymore. If you want to learn more on how the West has hurt the Arabs, then google it. I grow bored of this. And Arniegang, I do see beyond your "LOLs" when you try to catch me off guard... You think you got me but you didn't. To Kanelli. I apologize if I was insulting but I am a proud Arab and Muslim and I lived in the West and was soured by many experiences. so I jump the gun pretty quick... :oops: Kanelli, I will not generalize with the people because people like you exist who are tolerent and seem quite friendly I have to admit. 8) I will now close this thread as we have gotten too far out of line. Peace out.



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