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GETTING SCREWED BYLANDLORD, ANY OPTIONS


CANADIANLEAFNATION Ok this is my issue. I moved in to this building in Oct last year, great building, new building excellent crowd, al-barsha. Now what has happened is that they had some 3 bedroom apartments in the building that were not being rented, so they have made a contract with some company and are giving the 3 bedroom units on rent to multiple bachelors, like 16 people in one apartment. Not that anything bad has happened or that they make noise or anything AS YET, but who would want to live in a building like that. We are all paying steep rent and want an enviroment as such, I do not want to live next door to 16 people sharing a 3 bedroom apartment. Do i have any options, can I complian is this not against the law, do they not have places zoned for single family housing or anything of that sort. Help
devilsdiciple kanelli Devil's Disciple, that is a highly inappropriate response. If the apartment is a 3 bedroom place, then only 3 bachelors should be living in it, not 16 squeezed into one apartment. If the whole building is full of bachelors, then that is one thing, but if it is a family building then these bachelors can be disruptive. Noise and hygiene is an issue. Yes, there are zoning rules that prevent bachelors from living in "family only" areas. Perhaps you could contact Dubai Municipality and ask for the right contact to complain. sage & onion
Wanna bet that DD is a batchelor??? devilsdiciple So you betting that I am or am not??? :twisted: devilsdiciple
I agree...Sorry abt that!!! But tell me one thing K...Who give you the right to say how many people can stay in a 3BHK.... Would you make a similar request back home asking ur local gov to tell bachelors to move out just bcus they dont fit into your norm of how many people can stay in an apt???
As per canadian they are not being noisy nor distruptive as for hygiene....they may be cleaner than you or me..
As for S&O..No I am not a bachelor..FYI....But this sort of discrimination now a days is gettin me a bit pi##ed off... CANADIANLEAFNATION I have contacted the dubai municipality they are mainly closed today, will follow up tomorrow. Thank You for your help. This building mainly has families and is in Al-Barsha, which is considered to be one of the decent neighbourhoods in Dubai to say the least. In response to your comments Devil... Where I come from which is Canada, by now I would have called the police and gotten everyone kicked out as there are zoning laws in Canada UAE has not made me more uptight, I would not have put up with all this nonsense there. I am not being snobbish, but I am not comfortable with 16 men living next door to my place when I am at work and my wife is alone at home...I think you or anyone could appreciate that sentiment. I will update if I am successful in my battle against the man, THANK YOU all for your advice... scarlet It is against the municipality laws it is also unhygenic, it is dangerousand brings down the quality of living for all involved. DD it is not racist - you are rascist - you are assuming that "bachelors" means a particular nationalty or two. Bachelors simply means single men and I have met Arab nationalities that live many in one place. These too are bachelors. kanelli Thank you Scarlet, I couldn't have said it better. In my country, 16 people don't share one three bedroom apartment. The rents are not so high and salaries so low that people need to cram themselves into far too small accomodation. I'm suprised that I even have to point that out to you DD, or perhaps you think that every country has the same conditions as Dubai? The controversy in many university towns in my country is landlords who rent their houses out to students in residential areas. The neighbours don't appreciate the noise and filth that comes with three to five students sharing a 3-5 bedroom house next door. A valid complaint don't you think, especially if the students throw lots of parties, have too many people coming and going, and don't maintain the cleanliness of the house and property. kanelli Good luck Canadianleafnation. It is great that you are thinking about your wife, because as a woman I too would be quite uncomfortable trying to come and go and make use of building perks like the gym or pool (if it has those) if there is a disproportionate number of single and lonely males around.

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I agree with your filth, disturbance and noise issue with students etc... But what if they are minding their own buinsess, not disturbing anybody?
There are people who are against bachelors/single men staying period. Doesnt matter if it 16 or 6 living in a 3 bhk or whatever....Its just what people become here in dubai...It was just a thoght out loud...K...PEACE... :D.... fayz This place breeds racism, I actually really liked what you wrote above DD and Scarlet, it is sad people come here and become snobs. by the Canadian's own admission the guys living next door haven't caused him any grief but he'll call and complain and suddenly there will be 16 more homeless people in Dubai. I hope he enjoys it and gets a very loud couple with kids moving in next door as replacements. fayz Plus CanadianLeaf, Where did you get Barsha was a nice area from? do a search on here and you'll understand that it ain't your wife's a$$ that you need to be worried about but rather your own. :lol: :lol: :lol: On a side note I know of 7 people in Barsha sharing a 3 bedroom, all white, English and Germans. and throughout Barsha has a lot of staff accommodation places, there is one home with 22 girls in the area as well. Sadly with wages the way they are and no affordable housing, this will only get worse. Not_Sure Fayz: u married?....mmm...have kids?....mmmm...worked really hard till now...just to deserver 16 ppl living next to you? mmmm... Fayz...mmm :) u know nothing...u live a life of a soldier (solo) easy for u to say. When u become older....wiser...and more responsible....you will know...why you and anyone else...deserves more...deserves theyre right. Plus Dubai is one of the richest cities in the world....16 ppl in 3 bedroom lol....what a joke. devilsdiciple
:laughing3: :laughing3: Agree with you totally Fayz...LOL devilsdiciple kanelli Fayz, I feel that you are way off track and I don't know why you are banging on about racism again. Canadianleafnation said nothing about race - he complained about a crapload of males sharing one apartment. It is unacceptable for 16 people to share a 3 bedroom apartment in a family building in Barsha (male or female!). Either the whole building is budget accomodation for bachelors and bachelorettes, or it is a family building. I don't agree that it should be both, especially when the apartment pricing is the same as you find in family areas. I've checked on prices in Barsha and it isn't cheap. And you are not a woman either. Do you know what it is like to live here as a female with a large population of single men? If the building Canadianleafnation lives in has twenty 3-bedroom apartments (hypothetically), and all become filled with 16 single men living - how comfortable is that really going to be for the minority of women living in the building? You have respect for the local culture where women go out in groups with other women, or a male escort, and they cover up to be modest in order to feel comfortable in public around men. However you seem to think that Canadianleafnation's wife, who perhaps does not follow such customs, should feel perfectly comfortable living amongst a horde of single men in the building with all that that might entail (even if she did follow those customs she'd be uncomfortable!). It would be interesting to see if you would change your tune if the rest of the 5 bedroom villas on each side of your villa became occupied by 25 bachelors and/or bachelorettes each. You might answer, "Well if they don't disturb us..." but 25 or 16 people living next door will cause disruption eventually. If they are all bachelors your wife will certainly feel uncomfortable. The municipality has made rules because of problems with overcrowding in buildings and villas in family areas. The were issues of unhygienic conditions, too much traffic, drunkeness and fighting, and inappropriate conduct towards women in the neighbourhood. Perhaps you think it is purely about racism, but I give the municipality more credit than that. fayz I was going to respond but really can't be bothered, both of you should re-read your posts and think about the assumptions you have made, you are both sad and not worth my time. This thread should be locked, Canadian you got your answer, call the police and have them evicted it is as easy as that. Like I said in my original post, you're a snob. I will say this though, yes I do live in an amazing place, 3 floors, ridiculously large, backs on to the water, etc.. we do have 7 people sharing the guards quarters across from us, that place is about 500 sqf, we also do have homeless people that live infront of our sun room outside of our walk out basement, you know what we did we fed them, and you know what they did in return, they helped Mrs. Fayz plant flowers, assuming men will rape or harress women simply because they outnumber women is racism. You 2 disgust me. Mod, please close this thread as it’ll just end up in fight club. devilsdiciple Agree with Fayz.Everyone to their own....and what they think is right / wrong... peace
^ian^ Well, I think there's got to be a line drawn somewhere. 16 people sharing a 3 bedroom apartment is inhumane, and landlords should not be taking advantage of the situation by offering these kind of sharing conditions. The landlord is probably renting out these spaces for 1000 dh per month, making a tidy profit, and in general ripping everyone off. Was there not an article about Beds in the Kitchen on the front of Emirates Today the other day? How different is that from this situation? Then add the other factors: * 16 people living together in such a small space is not healthy, either for the people, or the other tenants. * This is forcing the rent up - the same as 10 people sharing a Villa is forcing the rent up. * These people are in jobs that are obviously not permitting them to afford decent accommodation, and accommodation is unafordable because of the trade in 'sharing'. I did the math when I got here. I could rent a 5 bedroom Villa in Al Barsha for 220,000, and then charged each person 4500 a month for a room. Bam - 54000 dh a year thank you. Some people are doing this over 4 to 5 villas - this is their job... their sole income. And this is one (not the only) factor forcing accommodation up. If the landlord dropped the rent instead of offering it for gross-oversharing, then the apartments would be full. Greed is driving this, and Greed is everything that is wrong with the world. I see both points of the story, but the fact is, both the OP and his neighbours are being taken advantage of and forced into a situation that neither of them is happy with. Me, I enjoy living on my own, but I understand not everyone can afford to do this. fayz Well written Ian, My views on this matter became emotional after reading the 2 fellow Canadian’s posts and all of the incorrect assumptions they made. But hey maybe it’s because I’m a Saddam loving coconut :lol: :lol: asc_26 :lol: :lol: :lol: I am here representing the landlords. :shock: J/k Seriously, you have to bring this matter to the owner of the residential building and not to your neighbors. Of course, you have to read very well your contract if there's any article/clause stated that a unit can't be shared with X number of people, or if the building is exclusive for families only, or any prohibitations etc. If there's none, you may suggest to the owner of the building (but i doubt if they'll do such). :D There are options you know. Don't just come here and whine. :x Do your assignments. :wink: If there's none and you can't stay in that situation, there are more villas and units available. See classified ads. Don't blame the poor people who can't afford to rent a decent place like your so called standard of living or your own lifestyle. :wink: kanelli Deleted. I can't be bothered with you Fayz. CANADIANLEAFNATION Spoke to the dubai municipality they say that the LAWS ARE ONLY for OR VILLAS, according to them there are no restrictions on apartment building. I spoke to a women. I go the number for the rental committee and left them a message. Will call the police tomorrow and check fayz step back, read your posts in a calm manner, look at all the pot shots and assumptions you made about me. Look through your threads and look at how many hypocritical posts you've made, look at your inability to answer back on valid points and tell me who scurries. Listen some of my closest friends, including my best friend is white Canadian so don’t go around making another assumption that I have a hate on for whites now. The Saddam pot shot was specific to my thread before it was deleted where I said I didn’t believe he should be executed. Your immediately following post was calling people on the thread Saddam Lovers, That really angered me, I have no love for Saddam I’m just Canadian and was raised that the death penalty and an eye for an eye are not the right approach. I didn’t confront you then and likely I should have. Your also the main reason I don’t venture into the politics forums. You take things to personal and need to separate reality from forum life, If I mention something like anyone who buys an SUV because it is a safer vehicle does not have correct reasoning, because statistically they are not safe vehicles if doesn’t mean I’m singling you out for owning one, you may remember I own one as well. You need to relax and really take things in context. Anyway I’m done with this issue. fayz sorry one more thing to add. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: kanelli Deleted. Thanks for the "lovely" chat on Messenger Fayz (which I initiated of course!). You are so off-base with your judgements that it isn't funny. In any case, I'm glad to finally see the real you, and offload a scaly "friend" who really wasn't a "friend" in the first place. devilsdiciple Ok I know I am going to get the short end from both K and F but!!!! Guys dont you think that we are moving away from the actual topic and again talking about each other..... :twisted: :twisted: Ok I am ready for the hurtin now..LOL.... Peace fayz
Likewise, every word you wrote speaks the quality of person you are, too bad I spent so much time defending you to others, turns out they were right.
and DD, you are right, way off base, looks like Canadian is exercising his rights and moving forward, I stooped to an idiots level and then lost to experience. kanelli Defending me to other people (like Liban? :lol: ), that is hilarious! Your favourite line is that you don't like to talk about others, yeah right! Sitting on the fence is what you do best because you want everyone to like you. Some of your male Muslim friends can lie to their wives, say really racist and harsh things on this forum, and have affairs with married women - but I seem to be the person who faces your harsh judgement of character. Very interesting Fayz... I asked you flat out for examples to prove your claims that I come off as racist, classist and snobby, and you didn't provide anything. I've certainly seen other people on this forum come off as all those things, yet you are as quiet as a mouse. Very interesting indeed... In any case, I have TONS of friends and they never misjudged my character like you have done. I know exactly what kind of person I am and it is not at all what you said about me. Good riddance! fayz whatever you need to believe. Best of luck. kanelli :lol: fayz
You know I really wanted to be above this and really take the high road and not feed the troll but it is bugging me and I can’t concentrate on my day so I’ll leave you with this. I said if you want examples in a calm manner read your posts, instead you deleted them and said I wasn’t worth the time you’re an idiot and every post you make just cements that more. Read what you wrote above, Some of ‘muslim’ friends cheat and lie, hmmm the fact that you qualify race of these people is what make you a racist. Invest in a dictionary.
I don’t like to talk about others except directly to them. You getting on MSN and b1tching about someone to me will get the same reaction from me as someone getting on MSN and b1tching about you, “I don’t like to talk about other people”, the fact that this is the most common phrase you hear from me hmmmm that again cements your character.
Look at your own actions, look at your posts about the Danish cartoons and you protecting the freedoms but if Yorky or Nick make an avatar they don’t deserve the same freedoms? Hmm I guess in your world only people who agree with should be allowed freedoms. If you take the time to step back and look at some of your own posts you’ll see many an example, you are not worth the time for me to search them out. The type of character you are is evident.
Like I said this is the Year of the A$$HAT and you are the queen.
And I’ll save you the trouble of one of your traditional responses by doing it for you...
:lol: :lol: :lol: kanelli More lies Fayz, and since when do you take the high road? You are the king of passive aggressive behaviour. I'm flat out aggressive - at least people know what they are getting. You are a sneaky operator behind the scenes, showing a nice face to people while you keep lots of hostility behind it. I have always been kind to you and our Messenger conversations have been quite pleasant and not revolved around talking about other people. You are the one who has gone majorly hostile about me with this latest thread, which is great because it has cracked the shell of how you really have been feeling whilst pretending to be my "friend" every day. I am not a troll here but a longstanding member of the forum who got voted Miss Dubai Forums 2006. Gee, I guess I have a lot of enemies for that to happen. :lol: fayz ah the master of avoidance, I made 2 points you totally missed but hey if :lol: :lol: :lol: works for you continue on. you always ask for examples but when people give them to you, you change the subject. Yes you are the Queen of Dubai Forums. kanelli If you had issues about the Danish cartoons, Yorky's avatars, the Saddam Hussein thread then why don't you speak up in those threads like everyone else does! Instead you keep your mouth shut, let things fester and then take pots shots at me and run weeks or months later! Pornographic avatars have a right to exist. I said that I didn't think they were appropriate for the forum and politely asked them to be removed at first. (Yorky is the one who decided to keep rattling my chain for his amusement.) The Danish cartoons have a right to exist and even then I can still say I don't think they are appropriate. How does that make me a hypocrite? You are upset about 16 bachelors possibly getting thrown out of their flat, and I am upset at thousands of Iraqis (especially Kurds) who were slaughtered by Saddam Hussein. Sorry if I don't have sympathy that Saddam was tried and executed in an unprofessional way. The people he killed didn't get any trial and they certainly didn't have any special considerations before their deaths. I will not apologise for that opinion. I hope you also lash out at your friends who preach about Islam and then conduct themselves in a very un-Islamic way on this forum and outside this forum. It seems you are quite flexible on perceived hypocrisy depending on who it comes from. That certainly tells a lot. You prefer those kinds of buddies to what I represent to you. I won't elaborate on that further, but I believe I have identified your biases. I am done with this discussion. You can feel free to think I'm an a.s.s.h.a.t and I can feel free to think you are a passive aggressive phony. We're even. :D fayz hahaha. yes, if only you read and understood what I wrote, but alas cest la vie. Bleakus I have a feeling that this thread has been hijacked, like seriously kanelli Sorry Bleakus, it is done now. Bleakus ^^really?? :P fayz
Hahaha see maybe this is why we both need to join you at paintball. lol Bleakus dont you see that im always calm after paintball ;) ^ian^ Wow... can't we all just... be friends? Bleakus and hold each others hands, sing "kombaya" ^ian^
You always take things too far Bleakus.... just too far. Bleakus ^^hahaha sorry :oops: fayz
Tried but got accused of being passive aggressive, the part that bugs me is she is living true to herself and complaining about me to others, where as me anything I say is on here for her to see.
Oh well I know I can sleep at night
At least this got me back on the forums, made it interesting again lol shafique Wow - I venture into this forum and find a right old bun fight going on. It looks like fun so I'll join in :lol:
What gets me is that Canadian took the time to count 16 bachelors in one flat - wow. Perhaps they were having a house party (but a quiet one by the description of their currently good behaviour).
BTW - are these guys South Africans? They can be a pest you know - I have a number of colleagues from South Africa who house share, I know I wouldn't want to live next to them! :)
As for who said who to what and when - hmmm it's not worth my while getting into the middle of this, so I'll just make the observation that I have it on good authority that in Toronto there are new immigrants living in as densely packed accomodation (due to cost) as described here.
Maybe I'm just sensitive to the whiff of racism - but I have to say that I'm with DD on his first reply.
[ok, stands back and waits for the insults]
:lol:
Cheers,
Shafique alexandra
it's not fair to blame these ppl and go so much against them (since they did not do anything to disturb u or ur family) only cause u assume that one day or another they will trouble u. u think these 16 ppl enjoy being crowded sharing that flat??? i am sure that each and one of them would like to have ur comfort but they r not as lucky, maybe u should give this a thought
the sentence in bold it's really pathetic and i pity u as u seem to have no better things to do with ur time than to try everything to make these ppl homeless. u r very selfish and mean...
and if u dont like to be disturbed and u r such a VIP than go and buy urself a private island and stop being so harsh on these poor ppl, they have the right to live too....even if u dont like them. alexandra
LMAO. good one Fayz :lol: :lol: :lol: kanelli Yeah, all we white people are racists, didn't you know? Think whatever you like, actually... you do anyway. Bleakus dont feel left out kanelli, we locals are racist too ;) shafique
As are Indians and Brits! :) Bleakus its all good dude kanelli
I told some of our friends that you said I was racist, classist and snobby. I also posted that on this forum last night. As you can see, I am quite up-front. Besides, you are the one who comes to my house, pretends to be nice to me on the phone and on Messenger, yet turns around and harbours those kinds of opinions of me and posts hit and run posts on the forum. I'm sure you have been discussing with others your true feelings about me, let's not play games. Talk about hypocrisy. I had nothing bad to say about you until I found out your true colours through this thread and a series of passive aggressive posting incidents over the months.
So Fayz, you haven't gossiped to me about other people? Do you want to take that statement back... :lol: alexandra
what r u talking about Kanelli??? Bleakus ^^come on kanelli, nobody here is really what they are on DF.....Last time we sat together had a good time with Fayz and the rest. DF are just posts...know what i mean? bushra21 who isnt racist? honestly. bleakus...I never enjoy my times with you....uffff, you fake fake person. ^ian^
Me. I hate all of you, I don't care about where you're from. Bleakus or you can hate everybody equally ^ian^
True enough.
I hate you man. (Especially since you didn't even reply to my email). bushra21
awww thank you...
i dont hate you. does that make you hate me more? ^ian^
Ewww.. you want to be my cyberbuddy.
That makes me ill. bushra21 :lol: fayz
University students as well, I shared a house with 9, also when I was in Banff, were rents are ridiculously high I was sharing a 400 sqft basement suite, 0 bedrooms with 2 girls.
I also have 2 close friends of mine both engineers, both doing well, CDN100/hour, equivalent to a minimum of AED 813,800 /annum they both live with roommates, you know why we have better things to spend money on. It is very common, that is why I smirked at Kannelli’s claims that this type of thing doesn’t happen in Canada. I know it does.
Also hmm I wonder if that is why I took such offence to people getting evicted without doing wrong. oh well if only people weren't busy with assumptions....
Also hmm I wonder if that is why I took such offence to people getting evicted without doing wrong. fayz
And don’t forget Mauritian and Tanzanians, I hear they can be the worst. :lol: :lol: :lol: shafique
:lol:
I'm still in shock by the fact you shared a 0 bedroom suite with 2 women! :shock:
:lol: fayz
No, See the difference is while you were campaigning to get people to side with you when they started emailing and calling me to ask, I didn't answer them but rather caught up with old friends because I don't talk about people to others. You are just proving my points more and more.
btw comments like all whites are racist I take offense to, please don't make blanket statements.
But both your admission above and your statement again prove my points, keep digging that hole but at least make sure to do it with a smile. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: kanelli Exactly Bushra, everyone is racist to some extent. Shafique, overcrowding in apartment blocks should not be considered only as an issue for new immigrants in Toronto or any other major city in Canada, it is an issue for people living below the poverty line. I am quite familiar with public housing as some of my family members lived in them over the years (but they didn't overcrowd the apartment). (Hey Fayz, there is my classism coming out - look at the rich snobby family I come from :lol: )That side of my family has been in Canada since the early 1800s and they are white. Low cost public housing and low-cost private apartment buildings may very well have large extended families or multiple families living together, but that is accepted in the whole building, and everyone pays low rents. The only thing I will admit to is being perhaps a bit sexist in this thread. I don't think the overcrowding should be allowed at all if it is a family building with high rents - or the whole building should be turned into low-cost bachelor and bachelorette's flats. However, the bachelors are my main issue. Large groups of single men gawk at women. I'm not going to be PC about it. It is a fact that women are gawked at quite a lot in Dubai! You can't expect the women in the building to feel comfortable if they are outnumbered by a large proportion of single males. If it is only this one apartment then things might be fine, but Canadianleafnation's first post says that other flats are being offered to companies by the landlord, so there could be more large groups of men moving in. We can all speculate and "what if"on the information that was posted. There are lots of people getting screwed over, in my opinion. If the building is not zoned as a family building - only villa areas can be - then perhaps Canadianleafnation and the other families not happy with the situation can move out. That leaves the building free for the landlord to fill with large numbers of bachelors and bachelorettes. Problem solved. fayz
Only by necessity and purely platonic, in a different situation I learned never become amorous with roommates, that's a story for a different day. kanelli Fayz, I have spoken to only three people! Cargirl, Wafaey and Ian. I have told them what you said about my character and how I didn't appreciate your pretend friendship. This is also what I have said to you, so again, I have said nothing behind your back that you haven't heard straight from me. I have spoken to no one else about this and have been rallying no one. You and I falling out has nothing to do with your friendships with anyone else, or my friendships with anyone else. And if by chance anyone else doesn't like my character then they can feel free to bugger off as well. I'm completely comfortable with that. :D kanelli So you guys know of cases in Canada where expensive family buildings have shared accommodations with regular occupancy as well as overcrowded occupancy like this case we are talking about in this thread? I haven't heard of it. I went to university as well and students are always looking to save money. None of the people I knew through my classes etc. ever lived in a house or apartment that was as crowded as what is seen here in Dubai, just to save money. I had friends in 5 bedroom houses and they had 5 people living there with friends coming and going for short periods of time. Sometimes if girlfriends or boyfriends moved in the occupancy doubled, but only doubled - not tripled or quadrupled! In any case, the neighbours who were not students were constantly pissed off about so many students living around them. They said their property value went down and the area was considered undesirable because of traffic, noise and hygiene. Guess that is an example of racism, correct? :lol: Fayz, learn how to detect sarcasm. You are offended by a lot, perhaps more than even me, only you keep it very quiet until BOOM, you crap all over someone (but only who fits a certain profile). :lol: I suppose that only brown-skinned Canadians are immune to racism and fit to pass judgement on others. Smug indeed. asc_26 :lol: Where are you Freza? Missing yah.. :oops: shafique
Kanelli - some may read the above post and the one immediately preceding it saying 'in my country 16 people don't share a villa' and question what the underlying assumptions are that leads to this conclusion, given what was written in the first post.
As the original message says that the 'bachelors' have so far been quiet and well behaved - it seems strange to me and others (it seems) that opinions like the above are written.
Whilst race was not mentioned I think everyone is assuming that the bachelors are non-white and to some, the view that having these guys as neighbours is abhorent is tantamount to racism. Now, if Canadian were to shock us all and say that the bachelors were in fact white North American mormons - all our assumptions and innate prejudices would be exposed.
My personal gripe is why condemn a group of guys (I am skeptical about the figure 16!) when they haven't done anything yet. These guys are human and not all of 'them' are voyeurs or potential molestors!
Just my 2 penneth worth. kanelli
Why, because you can't insult people or participate in a discussion like she can? :lol: shafique
Maybe he/she is looking up references to prove there's an overpopulation problem :)
Can't we all get along? :lol: Bleakus
Sooooorrrrryyyyyy asc_26
And live harmoniously and stop hypocrisy. :D It's just emotion that has taken us over. I am dealing with this hypocrisy everyday, as this is part of my job. Tenants complaining over the existence of bachelors in other flats.
I tell them to read the contract & the tenancy agreement from baladiya as well, then complain. Hypocrits! At least those bachelors can pay while those hypocrits have all the guts to complain after issuing a bounced cheque! :shock: :lol:
Some of us become so high profile, high maintenance with lots of fuss when stepping on dubai ground. :shock: Then complain about rent hikes?! :lol: fayz
There was no pretend, sadly a friendship with you was just a mistake that I didn't realize until too late, I'm sincere in most everything I do. I'm sorry I didn't realize Kanelli was one of the 99 names of the person that is the only person allowed to judge.
Why did you feel the need to talk about our relationship with others? hmm that just again cements what I was saying above. Just like you use to complain about 2 of the above mentioned people to me and others, when I would state my feelings which is not to gossip about others, this kind of childish behavior is what I’m seeing more and more of from you, oh well I'll still keep treating people like friends until they prove otherwise, I was raised to give people a chance whether they be 16 underprivileged workers or yoda the a$$hat. The world I believe would be better if people didn’t make judgments beforehand.
Keep writing you are proving your character more and more with every word. I'm friends with everyone until they prove it is a waste of my time, only in the last 2 days have you truly have shown your colour.
Again I implore you to look in the mirror, you need to step back look at this thread again from start to finish in a calm and rational manner.
PS at least if you were Freza you wouldn't be backfooting and jumping from accusation to accusation you'd be able to clearly state and sell your point, don't belittle asc_26, that's just mean. kanelli Yes Shafique, there is a lot that hasn't been written clearly here. That happens in most threads and can cause a lot of misunderstanding. I still disagree that this is about race. I have drawn the comparison to the neighbour's attitudes in student areas in university towns. The neighbours say the property value goes down, and the area is considered undesirable because of noise, traffic and hygiene. The neighbours are prejudiced against students not because of their race, but because of their experiences with them. The apartments and houses were messy, there was lots of noise, and there were parties and inappropriate behaviour. Not all apartments and houses were filled with such students - but a heck of a lot were. Have you considered that Canadianleafnation actually talked to the landlord who told him he is renting the apartments to companies for the workers to live in en masse, and the landlord confirmed 16 bachelors living there? Maybe he even spoke to some of the guys and asked how many are living there because he sees so many people coming and going. Maybe he did count them! Who knows! You are right that one apartment full of 16 bachelors may not prove to be a problem. However, it might very well become a problem, and more apartments in the building could fill up with bachelors and bachelorettes. That means more noise, more traffic etc. Other apartments with small families did not pay high rent for the place to become filled with budget accommodation for hordes of workers. Even if they are British, German, South African - it doesn't matter. Overcrowding is overcrowding! (And single lonely men are single lonely men...) Yes, Canadianleafnation has the right to complain and the right to move. I suspect he and other families will move out if the landlord decides to fill the building with low cost bachelor and bachelorette accommodation. Like I said before, problem solved. I'm not going to speculate any further and I have made my points and am just sounding like a broken record. Think what you will of me and my opinions, but remember to consider your own biases. kanelli
Other people in this thread were also anti-overcrowding. Has Scarlet showed her true colours to you with her response? No comments for the other posters as well? If it has only been this thread that makes you think I am terrible, why all the pot shots in other threads over the past few months. Why the discussion of other threads like the Danish cartoons (a Muslim issue, surprise surprise!) compared to the Smutty Avatar fiasco - supposedly hypocrisy on free speech, and also the Saddam thread (surprise surpise, another Muslim issue!)? By the way, did you address my response to you on that? Guess you like to dance around too.
You told me on Messenger that I come off as a racist, classist snob on the forum and in person. Is it really true that that has only been your assessment of me over the last two days? Give me a break, you are so transparent!
You have an interesting view on Freza's posting stlye. You might want to do a little more reading of her posts and then come back and modify your claim. You like Freza because she shares your political viewpoints. You pretend you don't read the politics forum, but you do. You see her attack other people personally but never speak up. Now you are protecting asc from my "belittling", hilarious! The difference is that you feel it is okay for people to attack your "friend" kanelli, because you don't like my political views. I am fair game because you want to see me ripped apart for not sharing the same views as you. Most of all, you like to watch other people do it, so that you don't get your hands dirty and wreck people's image that you are a nice, laid back guy who is kind to everyone. Like I said, I know what your biases are, do you?
Keep the posts coming Fayz, because they serve to show people exactly how much hostility you had hiding behind that veneer the whole time you were pretending to be friends with me. fayz hahaha you are sad, oh well I'll keep feeding you. I really don't have a political view as I feel by my own admission I don't have enough information to make a clear judgement about many issues that are happening today and no I do not go and read the Politics forums, I rarely do on occasion I click on view posts since last login which shows politics but rarely do I read in that forum. I'm a coconut by my own admission, (maybe look up what that means before responding) People will make their judgments about you and I, as I mentioned I'll be able to sleep tonight with a clear conscience. I’ve always been true to you. See me saying you aren’t driving a safe standard vehicle I never consider a direct dig at you, just stating a well documented fact, but no bother like I said, this thread and the last few days have proven very interesting. If a friendship ends because of differing views on housing and a single situation that does not directly reflect on either of us, I guess it proves how silly I was to believe we had a friendship with foundation, lesson learned. You do make me laugh you accuse me of stuff but don’t offer any evidence. I make observations and provide examples you change the subject. Continue commenting and don’t forget the :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: At the very least I'm improving my post count. kanelli Actually, you didn't give examples Fayz, and you have disliked my opinions for a long time - just quietly. I have explained that I am no where near as hypocritical as you perceive by explaining my viewpoints and how they aren't in fact hypocritical. I also pointed out that some of your other friends have been quite hypocritical, yet they didn't face the treatment you have given me. Again, why I am so special... I think I know. The SUV thread did not go as you say it did, go back and read it. I have confronted you twice on Messenger on some posts you have made that I felt were taking jabs at me. I asked you what was up and you brushed me off. You have had plently of chances to debate me or state your opinions of my opinions in forum threads and yet you say nothing. Only later do the passive aggressive hit and run posts come along. You were two-faced and I ended the friendship after you said I was racist, classist and snobby. When have I ever said such nasty things to you? I can do without false friends thanks, and you were a false friend. I'd like to suggest Freza as a replacement. Enjoy! :D Concord What the fook! Well, Scarlet started the whole thing (read back and think). Anyway, got to get back - in the middle of "nowhere" (it probably cost me $100 for this post but its worth it). kanelli But you see, Fayz doesn't secretly have it in for Scarlet because Scarlet doesn't talk about other political issues that make him seethe. :wink: fayz again with the assumptions :lol: :lol: :lol: love it. read the thread again, it's worth your time and will likely cost you less than $100 Concord
"YOU TALKING TO ME?" kanelli Actually, you did leave Scarlet and Not_Sure out of your criticism and instead focused on Canadianleafnation and myself. asc_26
NO. I do insult people (only to deserving ones) in a subtle way. Who isn't? I can participate in a discussion but with some preferences. :D Discussions as in discussion without dirty laundry being aired. Discussions that would stick on topic - sometimes off topic for fun - instead of stabbing & jumping into out of topic conclusions. Discussions with worthy rebuttal.
I do K but with some preferences. :D fayz
Ah yes, so you are familiar with books like this, again believe what you need to.

For those that are lurking, highly recommend this book, a great read and you'll argue better than DF royalty.
and yes I did give examples as mentioned my last post just take the time to read this thread
I'll give you another example though that you'll side skirt, you have started classing yourself as white Canadian and me as brownskinned, hmmm that in my humble opinion is racism as well. I've lived in Canada longer than you have and yes I do have a tan. Is it because of this tan that you are assuming I have differring political viewpoints than you? or is more because of my socio economic background? can you give me an example? Concord ok up to $300. Fayz, I did read it again and my feeling is that this was turn into a "racism" discussion and Scarlet was the first to use the word "racist(everything else was an "assumption" - that 16 bachelors are from a particular race or that 'canadians" are one race). Please read back, I've been wrong before - May 23, 1974 to be exact. Otherwise you owe me $300 = AED 1085 or sh!t load of Canadian Dollars! Anyway, othe than MAC bringing back HP I think the thread is worthy 8) fayz
no, the person who posted above me :) what remote part are you in now? I look forward to reading a quality review of it in the travel section. kanelli Actually, the discussions with you didn't need statistics. How does one use stats with a discussion of Free Speech - Danish cartoons vs. Smutty avatars? But then again you wanted to make a nice insult and post your little picture. Oh Fayz, you are getting down and dirty. Keep it coming! :lol: Are you trying to convince yourself that you aren't racist or me that I am? :lol: fayz
sorry for the additional cost, I'll need to use the quotation function more, this thread is getting fast and I'm a slow typer. Maybe we can get HP to campaign for the return of MAC, i miss the little guy, but I guess we'll have to wait for HP's post merger break. Concord
Actually there was a post by HP titled "Bring Back Mac". By the way that is $400 or a Sh!t load of Canadian dollars. fayz
I love it, you have jumped topics again, the statistic book was in direct response to your comments about proving SUV's are green vehicles.
Oh and yet again you missed commenting on the example.
You are class, fayz
about 450 CDN, the CDN dollar is doing well :), I'll have to do a search for HP, and catch up on my reading. Concord
Here is the reality and I am "always" right. Kanelli is not a racist and Fayz has been the victim of racism (read GulfNews) and thus a bit sensitive. Both really good people.
P.S. up to $500 (I will start a collection). Nick81 Whoa what did I miss :shock: fayz hahaha, Nick you got some catchin up to do. Learn from k’s mistakes though, you don’t want to come off as bad as her, read from the beginning and comment as you see fit. kanelli And Fayz, I don't have to assume about some of your political viewpoints, because we have discussed them, rarely on the forum but also on Messenger and in person. I don't know all of your political viewpoints and haven't claimed so. Also, the fact that you are highly selective in who you support (forum friends or other forum posters) and who you don't online and offline tells a lot too. I'm sure you can say the same about me in who I support and who I don't. When arniegang has said some offensive things I didn't jump on him publicly all the time, would sometimes pm him. That is because I have a fondness for him, even if we disagree on many things. I still talked to him by pm about it. Unlike you, who seems to think you are a saint - I am well aware of some of my biases. bushra21 wait, how do you know if the building is a family zone (or whatever its called)? just because of the majority of people living there or is it written in the contract or something? fayz
Awww but what fun is that, every good story needs an antagonist and protagonist, every good English major will tell you that. kanelli
Okay Fayz, I've really been dying to say this. Please f.u.c.k off now. Thanks :D Nick81 Will you get mad if I choose not to read this... Seriously I was just passing through, don't get me into this! :lol: I just found it amusing because out of all forumers if I had to pick 2 who would be likely to be fighting publicly those 2 would've prolly been the last! fayz
Again with the assumptions, so cute. Have i ever said I was holier than though?
And as for what we talked about in person, when I came back from Palestine and mentioned that I saw an Israeli soldier pistol whip a 5 year old child, the only thing I said to you was that you don't hear all the stories in the news, is that what you are talking about by my political viewpoints? I'd be equally offended if I saw a Canadian soldier pistol whip a UAE child. fayz
Aww the come back of a person who can’t reason otherwise :lol: :lol: :lol: first time in awhile i've actually looked forward to hitting refresh. I'm glad admin didn't lock this thread when I requested, although I keep feeding the troll but eh i want to hit 2500 posts eventually :lol: :lol: :lol: bushra21 can someone please answer my question.
fayz Actually i mentioned it as well (not knowing the rest of the demographics of the building), just another example of the assumption queen at work. fayz
no worries, only if you're interested and don't have enough drama in your own life should you read this.
I'm also surprised that it is the two of us, I've always thought of Kanelli as a friend but my mistake, oh well live and learn. bushra21 oh all right. because i keep hearing about bachelors living in family zone areas...but the OP never said anything about it being a family zone area... thats why I was wondering. because to be honest...i dont even know what qualifies an area to be a family zone area... also, i find families to be more annoyin than bachelors. damn kids always crying and screaming and parents fighting. its annoying, hence why i am considering moving... oh, and before anyone wonders of their nationality...they are british (which i dont think really should make a difference because lets face it, all families are loud) CANADIANLEAFNATION OK PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY: - I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST THE BACHELORS LIVING NEXT DOOR. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE LANDLORD WHO HAS BREACHED THE CONTRACT. ON MY LEASE I SIGNED SOMETHING SAYING THAT I CANNOT USE THE UNIT FOR SHARED ACCOMODATION. NOW AS IT SUITS THE LANDLORD HE HAS CHOSEN TO DO SO. - I AM NOT A RACIST, I CANNOT BE, I AM A CANADIAN OF BROWN ORIGIN NAMELY PAKISTAN - IT IS A MATTER OF DECIET, I CAN APPRECIATE EVERYONE TELLING ME GO LIVE IN A VILLA IF U WANT THE PRIVACY......WHEN I TOOK THE APARTMENT I WAS LET TO BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE NO SHARED ACCOMODATION. - I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST BACHELORS, I AM JUST TRYING TO LIVE MY LIFE THE WAY I WANT TO, I DO NOT BLAME THE BACHELORS FOR MOVING IN, THEY ARE ONLY DOING WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD TO DO BY THEIR COMPANY. - MY FIRST REACTION WAS TO CALL THE LANDLORD TO LET ME GET OUT OF THE CONTRACT, HE IS NOT LETTING ME DO SD WITHOUT A STIFF PENALTY. - PLEASE DO NOT BE UNREASONABLE AND DENY THIS, LET ME GIVE U AN EXAMPLE, SAY YOU AND YOUR MOTHER LIVE TOGETHER AND HAVE DECIDED TO MOVE TO A NEW COUNTRY TOGETHER AND INTO A BUILDING WERE SHE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE AND GO OUT OF THE HOUSE IN HER HOME COTHES TO DO THE GARBAGE OR USE THE GYM AND YOU WERE PROMISED THIS BY YOUR LANDLORD, NOW OUT OF GREED THE LANDLORD HAS CHANGED THE POLICIES....WHAT WOULD YOU DO????? I AM ONLY USING MOTHER AS SOME BACHLORS ON THIS FORUM MIGHT RELATE TO THAT MORE THAN WIFE.....OR THINK OF A YOUNGER SISTER..... - WHAT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS THE INJUSTICE BY THE LANDLORD.... - NOW YOU WILL SAY WHAT HAVE THE BACHELORS DONE WHY SHOULD THEY BE OUT OF A HOME?? MY QUESTION IS WHAT HAVE I DONE WRONG...WHY SHOULD I BE PUT OUT OF MY PIECE... OH BY THE WAY THE CRAP HAS ALREADY STARTED... THEY ARE STINKING THE HALLWAYS BY COOKING WITH THE DOOR OPEN, LOUD MUSIC....I HAD TO GO OVER TO REQUEST THEY CLOSE THE DOOR..... - I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR COMMENTS AND THEY ARE ALL TAKEN IN GOOD FAITH....NO HARD FEELINGS..... - OH BY THE WAY I CANNOT KICK THEM OUT....THERE ARE NO FAMILY ZONINGS FOR APT. BUILDINGS ONLY FOR VILLAS..... PEACE fayz
Don't say can't, I hear it from good ROYAL authority that brown skinned Canadians are the most racist.
okay in seriousness....
I'm from Dar Es Saalam, Tanzania by the way but have been in Canada since I was 2 and it is the only home I know I am married as well.
I want to take this opportunity to apologize, your thread got totally jacked, because of comments made by two fellow Canadians that needed to air a few things out.
Sorry to hear your situation. Good luck in finding an amicable solution and improving the lifestyle for your family. bushra21 you shouldnt type in all caps...people will think you're yelling at them Nick81
What is this? it's like Bushy's forum "etiquette" ? :lol: bushra21 yes, yes it is i offer private lessons, however, if youd be interested :wink: kanelli
Actually Fayz, that wasn't what I said, I said brown-skinned Canadian guys are the only ones immune to racism and fit to judge others - that is how you think is it not? (Note the sarcasm :D ) Of course! Brown people are never racist! :wink: (Note the sarcasm again.)
Translation - Look, I'm a brown guy from somewhere else too, am a patriotic Canadian, and I'm married as well. Look how much we have in common. Perhaps you will think highly of me because we are like brothers!
Translation - Thanks for letting me blow my cork and have a go at someone I've been dying to have a go at but been too chicken to do so. Oh, and sorry about your thread.
Translation - Actually, I'm not sorry that you are so racist and snobby that you don't like living next to 16 bachelors who you deem an inconvenience to your lifestyle. But hey, I need to look like a nice person now, so I'll say nice things to you even if I don't mean them.
Okay, back to my previous statement. F.u.c.k off Fayz. Thanks :D freza was someone calling me.....?
Shafique,
I wonder why you have such a hard time understanding one's opinions at times. I made my overpopulation statement pretty clear; just because population is theoretically sustainable does not make it OK for the population to continue expanding IMHO (the environment continues to suffer). You're very smart, logical and usually unbiased but occasionally you become as stubborn as a mule (the "why do women wear revealing clothes" thread comes to mind) and flat out refuse to see one's viewpoint for what it is. Then again, you're just a man. (I'm still the president of your fan club though.)
about the thread,
I wouldn't like living next to a flat that has 16 men crammed up like sardines. Only because men tend to be dirty in general - no matter what their nationality. But what type of place allows 16 men to one apt? Not the greatest of places or the greatest of neighborhoods, so this snobbery seems to be misplaced...
Fayz, I'm so proud of you, you're the latest person to have discovered Moon Bat's true personality.
Kanelli,
And I thought you couldn't get any more whinier and obnoxious, but apparently you can! You classy affable lady you.
Here's a likeliness of you, I'm sure you're this gorgeous in person, (apparently you're always fighting off them working-class men cuz they're all gawking after your hotness). Notice the phoney-baloney smile.
shafique
I'm glad you're still president :)
Your name came up as an attempt to lighten the mood!
Quickly addressing your point though:
I like to think I'm tolerant about other people's personal views. What I am stubborn about though is 'spin' and scaremongering based on misleading statistics or faulty logic. In this case - problems with environment are caused by over-population. I'm happy for this premise to be a theory one holds dear, but where facts are verifiable and there is a scientific body of research that backs up (or in this case debunks) a theory, I will point out that research.
About this thread - I'm staying out of this for now. Bleakus im glad that everything turned out well sage & onion This thread is really a Hi-Jackers paradise :lol: fayz
Again with the assumptions, so wonderful of you. I was impressed with how well you know me, but wait if you knew me and you as you say this was a long time coming why did you not prepare? maybe you would have better responses than F. off.
oh btw, still waiting for you to respond in a calm logical manner to any ofthe examples provided. or even in a Kanelli manner.
I don't need everyone to like, people do, accept it. I wonder if your constant bringing up of this point is because you deep down need to be loved and need to be the queen in everyone’s eye?
Oh well continue living in your gated community with your environmentally friendly Sport Utility vehicle assuming that in Canada there is only one person to a room. (ps an example of sarcasm, it is an art i can be good at but lost on people who don't understand it)
Please continue writing your responses, and then one day your eyes will open and you’ll reread this thread (it would have been better if you deleting/editing some of your posts) and then look deep down and say hey maybe I am not perfect. fayz
Dude !! what thread have you been reading?
Today will be a quiter day though, I have to make up for slacking yesterday so need to get some work done. ^ian^ I think the problem here is Canadians. A Canadian started it. Now two other Canadians are fighting about it. Yep... I blame Canada. ^ian^ And Canadian is a weird sounding word... it always sounds wrong when you say it. Kah-nay-dee-un. Weird. asc_26
I've read most tenancy agreement in all emirates from Dubai to Kalba (as in all emirates), it is usually not stated in most articles & clauses of the contract. Even that of tenancy agreement from baladiya (Municipality). Would you want me to name the colour of the contract? It is in arabic though, but it was translated by the legal department. :D
Family zone areas = more villas in that area & usually suitable for families only but as per municipality ruling. For instance the newly declared family zone = Rashidiya.
Residential building mostly not considered as "family only" unless it is stipulated in the landlord's contract & registered in municipality (depending on which emirates they belong). And most residential buildings don't have deed of restrictions.
It is usually hypocrits living in the building would say "this area is for family only" but with no proof to prove their points. If landlord refuse to renew the contract, they'll threaten for baladiya. :D I personally don't like to renew the contract for tenants who are too fussy, making call to complain about everything in the building & only to find out they can't pay the rent. :shock:
C'mon, it is really about one's "breeding" not to make unnecessary noise if you're staying in a residential building with no soundproof. It is really about one's breeding to monitor your kids & don't allow them to play at the corridor or hallway as it is not a playground.
If bachelors living in a building done nothing wrong with anyone, why bother? Unless, you're a plain housewife doing nothing but watching what your neighbors are doing. Gosh! :shock:
For those too meticulous and want for "family area only" and can pay the rents, there are lots of villas available that have property management team & with home owners association. You can have your lifestyles then. :D But this kind of community is for high-end markets only. I love them though. :D Jeevan asc do you work for a real estate firm? ^ian^ Why is this not in Fight Club... it's clearly a fight! asc_26
:wink: But don't ask me which real estate company, maybe some of you here got my notice to vacate the premises. :( Better to stay anonymous. Am more on commercial but I don't have a choice but to handle residential as well, as these wannabe tenants are making nonsense comments to destroy the reputation of the company. zam [quote="fayz"]
bwahahaha....bleak, are you ok? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seriously, it was nice to read an interesting topic debated by the vets, and not. But why does it have to end with someone hating someone?
We all have different views, of course. But it could always be carried out w/a healthy discussion. Can someone who knows both of these good and old (I mean vet) peeps patch them up or something? :cry: CANADIANLEAFNATION asc_26 wrote
but I don't have a choice but to handle residential as well, as these wannabe tenants are making nonsense comments to destroy the reputation of the company.
Ok miss THANG since you know it all....I have signed an agreement with the landlord that my unit can ONLY BE USED by a single family and I can fax it to you if you like...Where do you even get off defending the real estate company, by the way the name of the real estate company is VAKSON!!!!! What a nonsensensical comment even the manager at their office said and i quote "yes we have put you under that condition, but we made no promises about the whole building" So I do not know what world you are living in. what what you think of yourself by calling me a WANNABE, i think you are a WANNABE, tell me this DO YOU EVEN HAVE ANY EDUCATION IN REAL ESTATE TO BE IN REAL ESTATE...I think not.......Go chew on that for a little while you WANNABE ^ian^ Hey, Canadianleaflover, leave the girl alone. Just because you've had a crap experience doesn't mean all people who work in Real Estate are inexperienced. Tenants can be right wankers too you know. asc_26

VAKSON?! Never heard of it. :(

For sure i am not the manager who said those things to you. If that clause is clearly stated in your contract then..hmmm.. & remember there are two contracts registered & non-registered, which one do you have? Real Estate is my life dude. I've been in this industry right after university. :wink:
You only react when you're quoted. Wannabe doesn't always apply to "you" but since you bite, let it be. :D
Good Luck to your leasing battle with your landlord. :D fayz
HAHAHAHHA
Insert Humorous interlude here…
every good story needs a comic factor.
Let the debate continue….I wonder who the protag and antag will be? Edge of my seat, also what is Concord’s total bill at now? Will Shaf still stay on the side lines kanelli’s definition of the fence? Will freza profess her undying love to nick81. will Asc reveal her employer? Will Zam get what she wants, a good debate? will anarchy arise in the Queendom of A$$HATSt?
Stay tuned…. fayz when I googled the clip above I found this. If Bear was animated this would totally be him :)
asc_26
Municipality ruling supersedes all contracts, unless there are some amendments. :wink:
If I am in your situation, i won't waste my time. I'd rather find a community that fits my lifestyle. Again lifestyle means COST.
If you think you belong to class AAA (high-end markets) then rent a place that suits you. Hmm..class AAA don't whine about these things, as they are busy with their businesses and will just pay whatever rents. :wink: CANADIANLEAFNATION
I appreciate your advice, but your CHEAP SHOT about CLASS was un neccessary....hehehehe. It does not really bother me because I do not really care for your opinion on CLASS...I would not lower myself to that...But good luck to you on your CLASS clients who do not care how much they pay for rent...hehehehe.hahaha ^ian^
Totally!!! devilsdiciple I want in on this thread!!!! :lol:...Since its already been jacked... :lol: Bleakus
im super thanks for asking zam ;) asc_26
Ohh common..who is cheap now?! :lol: You are talking about giving good lifestyle to your family. I am just feeding you with informations how marketers of real estate segment their target customers. The "Class" per se that i am talking about doesn't mean community "CLASS" from your origin. :lol: Shall i elaborate more?
Some real estate agents are doing their hard selling just to get the hmm...without even considering the needs of their clients. This is what happen around here. So you be careful. Are we friends now? :wink: CANADIANLEAFNATION
hehehehe Friends yes....I like your style :lol: asc_26
Hhahahah... only style minus the Life. :oops: freza For goodness sake, what does my poorly-concealed undying but unrequited love for nicolas have to do with this thread? :?
Is anybody out there shocked at Moon Bat's outburst (when did it stop being an outburst? on page 5?) I'm frankly surprised by all this amount of vitriol that she spewed.
I'm also surprised by asc26: she handled herself so well, who would've thought??
So much strangeness lately... ^ian^ Moon Bat? freza That would be Kanelli, as babtized by satan da redeema or one of those trolls. ^ian^
I'm sure I didn't take any drugs this morning.
Positive. ^ian^ I still don't understand why this isn't in Fight Club yet. Who's the mod of this section? asc_26
Cancellation of tenancy agreement/contract in between the tenancy period is a breach of contract my friend. :wink:
Let's do the practical side. Technically, you can cancel/terminate the contract, BUT NO REFUND from the landlord's side. :D Your PDCs will still be cleared, but landlord's safe side, they will ask you to cash all PDC's instead of waiting for your PDCs to be cleared since you're terminating the contract. Finance professionals can attest to this & its principle behind this. :wink:
Negotiate with them. You'll terminate the contract but no refund will be given and waived the penalty. As much as possible, try to settle amicably with the landlord. Threatening the landlord to baladiya will just bring the matter worst and really a waste of your time. Nick81
Oh come on! I didn't want everybody to know about us so soon! :evil: bushra21
Maybe we need to toss the word Vagina around... devilsdiciple
:lol: !!! Ok now it can head to the Fight Club..... Not_Sure 8) jabbajabba f**k me - i just spent an hour reading the past 11 pages. I need a coffee. asc_26 :lol: JJ, remember this: DF thread in any forums will not reach 11 pages or more unless it's a game's thread, there are two or more members going off topic & throwing sh!t at each other, it is about racisms and discrimination and the thread turns out to be a 'flirting thread'. :oops: Coffe with ice please. jabbajabba
Very true - heres you ice coffee :) sniper420 Holly Karamba! Damn that was long civil war! fayz smippy you've been away a long time, damn I nearly forgot about this thread. For Asc if this is in fact a romance topic, i'd be careful as to where jabba grabs the cream for your vietnamese coffee. :lol: :lol: :lol: Sure it only made 11 pages before it fizzled out but admit it you got a laugh and enjoyed reading through it did you not? All stories need to come to an end



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