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sleepless.in.dubai I rarely post on DubaiForums, and this is the reason why: I'd say about 75% of ALL threads that start off normal are either: A: Jacked by people who are OBVIOUSLY 14 years old, with no sense of logic or maturity of any kind. B: Spun off into a full out flame war This board has it's fair share of intelligent people, but how can that intelligence shine when it's drowned out by constant bickering and utterly immature thread-jacking? How many times do you have to say "Oh XXXX you are so gay" or "XXXXX your mama is a **********" before it STOPS being funny? How many times do we have to see an intelligent conversation burn up because some guy comes in and adds some kind of retarded statement like "hahaha you will burn in hell"? There are at least 2 sides to every argument, and there is no statement on earth that will go unchallenged. Debate is HEALTHY, conversation is HEALTHY, stating opposing views and defending your arguments soundly is HEALTHY. Acting like a kid, giving lame one-liners which QUICKLY grow old and cussing someone out for not agreeing with you are NOT HEALTHY FOR THE FUTURE OF ! I am truly disappointed. Before I came to Dubai I read a lot of articles on this forum, and truth be told there are a LOT of highly intelligent individuals on this board, whether I agree with them or not. I was helped immeasurably by the users on this site. What saddens me, though, is that all this intelligence is drowned up by utterly ridiculous posts. I am not going to bother quoting any of them, because finding them is as simple as clicking pretty much ANY thread on this forum. I have managed webforums before, I have read posts on many, MANY webforums, and never before have I seen something more chaotic and disorganized than IRAQ on the entire internet. ADMIN: The problem is clear. There are users here who serve no purpose here but to jack threads and aggravate people who are trying to have an intelligent discussion. These users with a history of 100% negative contribution to the forums have to be banned. There are also users who regularly act like idiots, but show flashes of true intellectual ability, which DOES contribute to the forums (but is far outweighed by countless posts which contribute NOTHING). These users need to be warned. These are the basics of webforums use..LURKERS read posts on a forum over a long period of time, and eventually start posting. I cannot imagine how many intelligent people have visited this site to read posts and, eventually, contribute, but were scared off by the alarming flurry of immature posts constantly disrupting previously SANE threads. This domain name is a good one, and the idea to have forums centered on Dubai is really great. BUT, you must remember, it is the users that dictate the popularity and success of this website, and if there are users who are here to DEGRADE from the experience, then will remain a breeding ground for bored kids with nothing to do all day but disrupt threads started by people who actually take the time to contribute valuable information, which in turn is CRUICIAL to the success of this website. ADMIN, in a nutshell, you need stellar moderators, and you need to set rules in place (which are available on virtually any one of the thousands of successfull webforums out there) to guarantee that is a success. If anyone would care to agree of disagree with me, in a civilized manner, by all means go ahead. Consider this post my suggestion for a better experience for all of us at
sniper420 Well damn right you pointed out the matter. Some of the moderators like me have access and can censor only some assigned forums. Good thing after may requests HP got banned. If he come back, I wont care if his reincarnated life doesnt effect the forum. Well this forum needs many updates:- 1, Update the version of phpBB - and add quick reply, 2, Some moderators given power to warn and ban some users for troubling ppl. 3, Target members with quality posts and assign them a forum-for example members like dxbsoul and recently joined arnie have experience and are well-acquainted with different fields in Dubai. Their advice have helped many members. If we assign em some forum section it would be of immense help and increase the popularity of the forum. It's true as sleepless pointed out members with quality posts increase the popularity of the forum and admin has to give em perks to retain em. D-Unit no offence ..but it has been said before..some moderators..u know who..r not even fit to be moderators cuz they r as messed up in their head as some of the users... a guy talking about some girls he has been with and describes them as hoes and bitches all the time..its just disgusting..so how fit is he as a moderator, editing in an intellectual conversation?? lochness Gosh I never thought of myself as a lurker, just someone who wanted information and was happy to browse around and look for it with out interferring. My mother always taught us, if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all, and sleepless you are right, alot of threads I first began to read were chaos. One recent thread, (which began as a tribute just about ended up a blood bath), was Sheikh Maktoom's passing (gosh I hope I spelt that correctly), which ended up being just disgusting, when all the poor lad who began it was trying to do, was express his sympathy to the Sheikhs family. dbxsoul has been a fountain of information for myself and my family, I am more than happy to say that he is the reason I continue to look through the forums. His answers are always informative, educated, and from what I have read unbiased. His advice has been invaluable to us. So all in all I suppose I am a 'lurker', only a hand full of posts over quite a few months, compared to others, but I will only weigh into something I feel is either relevant to me or I feel I can give some worthwhile contribution too. As the saying goes "slow and steady wins the race" and I am an old lady now :laughing6: moonbaby Amen to that Sleepless! I have not been a member long but I have noticed the same problems as you. I have not made many posts because I find it difficult to lower my standards to the level that some members seem to be stooping. as lochness says, if you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all. How about the moderators create a new section especially for those members who wish to thread jack and be childish? arniegang Sleepless... Congratulations my friend on taking the time to post this. I totally endorse every single thing you have said. Well done, one of the best posts i have read. TAKE NOTE --- JAMAL!!!!! AhmedBinAbdullah I AGREE with you. There are VERY YOUNG QUANTITY members and VERY LESS QUALITY members. Ahmed Liban The rules will be enforced in a much more severe manner in the forums I manage. I am tired of all the crap being slung around on this forum. AhmedBinAbdullah Appreciated Liban Liban
Bienvenu Ahmed.
I already starting closing some threads.

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Hi Liban
With respect it is not really the thread that need locking etc, it would be more appropriate to delete abusive, bad language/racist "posts".
But more importantly Liban - i think the moderators have to look at themselves first. Lets be honest, Jamal is not fit to moderate. His language is disgusting, and he is the most rudest person i have ever experienced.
thanks Liban
Greetings Arniegang,
It is not easy to follow-up with every nasty word that is thrown around on this forum. We do try our best but things are getting way to nasty these days.
Closing a thread is a last resort. But for the 2-3 ones I closed today, I had no choice but to because the degree of disrespect and insults being slung were...ummm... extreme!
As far as I know, Jamal moderates the Fight Club. Why that forum needs a moderator in the first place is beyong me since its core purpose is to allow members to flame one another :)
I know that his posts can be offensive and I understand where you are coming from. He is now away from Dubai, hence away from the forums. When he comes back, should this continue and should people find him offensive, let me know and I will speak to him.
I would like a three strike system in place.
1) Warning
2) Warning + temporary one week ban
3) Ban
Peace! yorky500 I agree totally with what has been said, hence why I believe that the "fight Club" section was opened where people could be as abusive to eachother as they liked. However, this seems to have spilled over into general forums now. Close the topic and ban the culprits. :lol: yshimy Sleepless, Thank you for raising this issue and taking aciton. To be honest i've been passive to this, this forum helped me alot comming to dubai with information and i tried to do my part on helping new members, but the problem is what you mentioned. About fight club, I think it is for the purpose of flaming each other, i thought it would be intellectual flaming or having extremem idea's but not insulting and cursing each other. Anyway, Hope we see better forum in the future and... Ciaoo all arniegang
Liban
Respect to you my friend, you have posted what i think most of us wanted to hear. I can probably speak for the majority on here and say, that your idea of implementation is spot on, and is needed in here.
Thank you XRW-147
Not logical at all Sniper, but if you have the time, and I guess patience, split the thread up leaving the relevant stuff and put the kerosine into the fight club. Dunk Totally support everything Sleepless states. I have been put off using the forum because it seems that every post descends into a tirade of abuse totally unrelated or constructive to the original thread. I think we all know who the offenders are. I seriously suggest the administrators do something about it before this forum dies. It would be a great shame. Give it a timescale of say a month - if it doesnt improve - maybe get new administrators as suggested by others in the thread above. sniper420
I agree with yeah. As u have seen from my previous posts ,I started deleting posts which were flames and totally out of subject, alrite it's normal to digress little from the topic but some members most of the time posts some stuff unrelated to the subject and I started taking action- result some ppl are pissed on me , saying I am biased and blah blah... They asked me to not to delete posts instead transfer all flames to fight club, now is it logical to transfer whole productive thread to fight club just bcos bunch of monkeys have been fooling around? No.In my other forums we have warn meter which shows the levels of warnings given to the member , if it's full, the member is banned for good. sniper420
Not logical at all Sniper, but if you have the time, and I guess patience, split the thread up leaving the relevant stuff and put the kerosine into the fight club.
well t's easy and betta to delete
Concord Perhaps consideration should be given to letting everyone access "fight club" so that the objectionable language and Bable will have a "forum" and leave the other sections free of most of that stuff. Just a thought... anxiousape This shouldnt be such a big deal, and the moderators neednt "vow" to carefully weed out abusive posts, threads, and users.
Some of the new progresses in web forums are:
1. "Report post" link in every post that is posted( being discussed )
2. Vote user/post (im not sure how it works) where every user has stars or hearts or a trustwortyness/helpfulness meter. bonk
Good effort.
Forums usually reflect what the active users and moderators want. anxiousape Does this forum ever move (forward)??



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