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Dubai issues list of prohibited public behaviours


gtmash
...from a magazine I never heard of. Hey man, if you guys love your gay populous, then by all means, be gay and screw each other. Don't talk about cultures you know absolutely nothing about other than from Western internet magazines. I mentioned what I heard from ACTUAL "LOWER-CLASS" BROWN PEOPLE I hang with, including garage mechanics from Aweer, a/c fixers from Sharjah and even rich Iranian girls who came here for college. Do not shove your stupid internet history from a thousand years ago in front on my face. And don't bring up Emiratis screwing boys either. I do not hang with Emiratis on a regular basis.
Bora Bora
Gayness? I did say it was cultural, not gayness. And homosexualty is not a "truly recent Western concept". You need go back in time my friend and read some history, particularly the Romans. And what "concept" are you referring to with regard to Asians and Iranians never hearing about it? Chocoholic DUBAI (, AFP) Playing loud music, dancing, nudity, kissing and even holding hands in public is considered inappropriate behavior under new guidelines laid down by the authorities of Dubai, according to a press report on Saturday. Dubai Executive Council issued a list of public behaviors that requires Dubai residents and visitors to respect the customs of the Muslim country and avoid what the council considers inappropriate behavior, according to the Arabic-language daily Al Emarat Al-Youm. " Pants and skirts have to be of appropriate length, and outside clothing should not expose body parts indecently and should not be transparent " Dubai Executive Council The rules, which apply to all public places, include a ban on all forms of nudity, playing music loudly and dancing, exchange of kisses between men and women—and even on unmarried couples holding hands. Any breach of the guidelines, by nationals or expatriates, carries a possible prison penalty, the paper wrote. The order also requires all visitors of public places, such as government buildings, shopping malls, streets and restaurants to dress in “appropriate” clothing, otherwise they would be denied entrance to those areas. “Pants and skirts have to be of appropriate length, and outside clothing should not expose body parts indecently and should not be transparent,” the guidelines stipulate under section “public behavior,” Al Emarat Al-Youm wrote. In addition, the council ordered that anyone caught under the influence of alcohol—even a small amount—outside designated drinking areas is liable to being fined or imprisoned, the paper added. Dubai, a member of the seven-emirate United Arab Emirates, has a diverse culture as it is home to a foreign population made up mainly of low-skilled workers from Asia and Western professionals. Unlike most of its neighbors in the conservative Gulf region, the emirate tolerates a relatively relaxed dress code and hosts dozens of hotels that have bars and clubs, where alcohol is legally served. However, a series of incidents, including crackdowns on cross dressers and the expulsion of two British expats found guilty of having sex on the beach, has thrown into the limelight the sometimes clashing local and foreign cultures. Dubai Executive Council issued a list of the Appropriate Public Behavior, obliging Dubai Locals, Expatriates and Visitors on respecting its Social, Cultural, Religious and Customary ethics. The list ‘Obtained by Emirates Today News Paper’ compels locals, residents and visitors on respecting the country’s values, morals and believes by avoiding all kinds of inappropriate behaviors throughout the whole Emirate. The list has been circulated throughout Dubai’s Governmental Departments and Private Companies. Under the Article of Public Moral Code, the list stressed on the importance of respecting the UAE’s icons, including but not limited to it’s Governors, Flag, National Symbols…etc. According to the list, any insolence of the aforementioned will be considered a crime. Visitors of all public places in the Emirate, including but not limited to Governmental Buildings, Shopping Malls, Restaurants and other are obliged to wear suitable clothes at all times. Individual wearing improper/indecent clothes will be banned of entry. The list obliges visitors of both genders to wear accepted swimming attires at beaches and swimming areas (in respect of society’s culture & values). It also prohibits wearing swim wear afar swimming areas as stipulated by the General Dress Code applicable to the rest of the Emirate (Decent Clothing). Nudity of all sorts and kinds is strictly prohibited and is penalized with imprisonment and ejection. Under the Article “Behavior Between Sexes”, the list strictly prohibits several actions in public such as: any kind of; kissing, cuddling, fondling, sexual harassing, harassment of women, hand holding or any other act that can be considered as abrasion of modesty. Any individual who conduct such act will in violation to Public Decency which can be penalized with imprisonment and ejection. Only married couples are permitted to hold hands in decent ways that does not harass public civility. Hence Dancing and disturbing Loud Music in Public places such as beaches, parks and residential hoods is forbidden; its allowed in its designated places. Alcohol and Drudges: Alcohol is only allowed in its licensed places. Any breach will be punished with imprisonment and fine. Drugs are strictly forbidden. Its position, consumption or trading is con considered a crime. Drivers caught under alcohol effects will be legally accountable for the consequences which may lead to expulsion. Drivers should use head sets. All vehicle passengers including driver are obliged to wear seat belts. Children must be seated in the back seats. Road way must be vacated to Police, Ambulance and Fire department cars. Drivers are prohibited from stopping to watch accidents. Pedestrians must be respected. Smoking is restricted to its permitted areas. Violators will be held accountable. Any chemicals that affect the mind is prohibited, and consuming it is punishable by law. Verbal abuse of all kinds, offensive hand gestures or any other aggressive or malevolent gestures is a violation panelized with fine and imprisonment. All nationalities and religions must be respected. Old civilians, disabled and pregnant woman should be given priority when necessary. Whistling, Loud conversations and laughter should be avoided. Spreading or circulating false roomers, news’s or jokes that harasses public security, peacefulness and health will be punishable. Being cautious while taking photographic pictures is necessary. Photographing women and families on purpose without taking permission is publicly un accepted in Dubai. The list has allocated a special article on the Islamic Religion & Other Religions, obliging those concerned to switch off music in public places or in Cars in proximity to Mosques or when the Call for Prayer ‘Muslim Athaan’ is on. In the Month of Ramadan, Eating, drinking and smoking in public places is strictly forbidden. Those who breach will be legally accountable. The list has stressed on restricting any religious activity, Islamic or non Islamic unless permitted through competent authorities. Chocoholic Most of this is commen sense, but some of it is just retarded! Residential 'hoods'? hahahahaha So it's forbidden for unmarried couples to hold hands, kiss etc in public, but ok for guy-guy, girl-girl? Some of this is just good for a laugh really. CVB Whistling, Loud conversations and laughter should be avoided.

I'm particularly keen to see this one enforced. naruto nice post choc.. I think some expact thout dubai is a free country which you can do anything you want ..and i dont blame them its the GOV. fault ..however there are some expact who really respect our culture and religion..i remamber my english techer ,she was scotish ..she never came to the college with tight clothes ..in the beginning i thout she was doing that becuze of the college regulation , but one day i met her outside the college and she was conservatively dressed.. Anyway the most important thing is there will be no more kissing in public..its embaressing especialy if u were with ur family.. :oops: Chocoholic Can men stop going round holding hands and kissing one another too? This is embarrassing to see. I find that offensive! K-Dog
Especially two men kissing on the lips. Chocoholic Ewwwww! You see you get bashed in other countries for openly practicing homos.exual behaviour! K-Dog
I'm being serious. Have you seen Arabs greeting each other like this? I don't know if its stricly Emirati or universaly Arab.

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naruto
yes we can...when we go to another country which find it offensive according to thier laws..here in UAE men holds hands and kiss each other not on the lips offcorse..but we dont mind it ..if u mind it its not my problem..i cant force ur country to do the same and stop ppl from kissing each others in public..ur country and ur ppl can do not me. ..in ur country i will not do that ..but i think i have the right to do it in my country... K-Dog
Why is it embarrassing? Is it embarrassing that your kids may feel that you don't love their mama like that :)
On a serious note, why is kissing considered so offensive in the Eastern culture? Not only here or the Islamic World but look at India. Richard Gere still has his arrest warrant out for kissing an Indian actress. I don't get it, does it mean the Indian movies, the biggest movie industry in the world, don't have any kissing? The society which gave the world Kama Sutra, doesn't make sense. I'm not saying its a bad thind I just want some of our Indian friends to enlighten us. When I was in India just for 2 days on a business trip to Banglaore, supposedly the most progressive town in India, I didn't see any holding hands or kissing. I did see quite a few beautiful Indian girls. I just wanted to unwrap their sarees and bang them :) I'm in love with Frieda Pinto. I think she is the most gorgeous woman on earth.
When people were discussing belly dancing here, someone said that they wouldn't see it with their family. I get it, you don't want to see too much skin with your kids (I wouldn't go to a strip club with my kids either) but when someone said its "unislamic" thats where I have a major problem. Not only its the height of hypocracy, this form of art origianted in the Arab/Islamic world but because of this kind of thinking the world is in trouble. The religion makes you narrow minded and is/has been the root cause of all the wars. K-Dog
Naruto I've seen lip kissing, what is that about then? sage & onion
The point is, it is not regcognized as H/S behaviour, it is part of the loacal culture. worldguy
:lol: Guess we might just see annual parades being held in not so distant future. worldguy
A point well raised and we have been fighting to make the right wing politicians to understand that this is just taking a step backward.
After the Mumbai blasts, which hit the Mumbai's upper middle class and rich, lot of people took to streets and have formed a committee. This committee has raised points with the government, but have not seen the result. Something we need to push further and ensure that there are no double standards.
Hate it when some political party to gain mileage would create a stir and then get some votes from the conservative mindset. Broadly I feel the solution to this is education within rural areas as that still comprises the majority and have the power to decide who rules us. Thus, the educated population sits like a puppet. pete t this is a case of laws of the *^&@#.
Dubai Executive Council

UAE national day last year Locals would have been Fined all over the place ?

what about holding your childrens hand ?
and how many men do you see holding each others hands in the the UAE ?? I see more here then back home ??

many work email systems across the UAE could be used to Fine how many workers ? Jokes are punishable in the UAE ??
could this post get me fined ??

what do Doctors give you if you are sick ? or depressed ? did the lawers even look at these laws ??

what about the freedoms we have in are home countries ? are they respected ?
thess laws makes no scent unless we were a civlization of plants
do they know we are humans ?? gtmash
Belly dancing did NOT fckin' originate as a part of Islam. Any half-assed scholar can tell you that. Just because it originated in an Arab country does NOT mean it is Islamic. Because in your thinking, even a Land Cruiser would be considered an Islamic birthright, going by what happens here. K-Dog
Thats not the point how and where it originated genius. The point is your radical and dangerous thinking. Things can't be simply branded as "unislamic" or "unchristian". Your narrow mindedness is the problem here along with all the presbyterian and southern baptist preachers who think everybody else is going to hell or the born agains who ask you "Are you Christian" as soon as you meet them.
Why are you living in such an "unislamic" country? where booze and prostitution flow freely in the streets. Have you seen the Marina Liquor Store. Its located inside a mosque (well directly under it in the same structure). I guess that is Dubai's vision of having it both ways.
rudeboy
belly dancing originated from the romans, greeks, indians and egyptians and othamans and probably persians too.
well before islam the arabian pensiula (however you spell it :D) was run by many great empires (romans, egyptians, persians, greeks, othamans etc) only to be taken over by the Islamic Empire.
But sadly even today you can see belly dancing in most of the arabian countries because of its old tradition roots on the pensiula. kanelli If you want to read up on the many theories of where bellydance comes from, where it spread, how it is portrayed, where the costumes and newer practices came from you can read the wikipedia article. #Origins No one said it was an Islamic dance meant for any religious purposes, so just chill. Bellydance has been a part of cultures with Islamic religion and dancing usually takes place in s.e.x segregated groups or in family gatherings. There is no need for slinky costumes. So, anyone who thinks that "bellydancing" is disgusting and anti-Islamic needs to think again. No need to go to a nightclub and see that version of bellydance if you don't want to! I have fond memories of hanging out with my Iranian friends in Dubai, just us ladies dancing and eating good food - even the children were there dancing. Nothing dirty or immoral about it. gtmash
Why am I living here? The same reason you are living here, as you yourself endure your own set of rules/flaws that your Western ass considers to be restrictive and retarded. So don't give me that "if you don't like it, then leave" routine. rudeboy
gawan boy lol rudeboy
"bellydance has been part of cultures with islamic religion" :S sorry what exactly are you saying? part of cultures with islamic religion :S
bellydancing is a old tradition. in the old times slaves used to bellydance. in the greek temples there would be belly dancing. in india the great kings would go to special houses just to watch a woman do belly dance.
you will not see belly dancing in UAE in the open air. when i say belly dancing i mean a pretty woman doing hoola hoops wearing less clothes with a bunch of guys around her. if you do please take pics and post them. if you dont then dont go around and saying it happens EVERYWHERE.
Yes it happens but behind closed doors and only for those who wish to go and see it. yes it happens in the middle of the desert and again it is for those who want to go and see it.
bellydancing is a commercial attraction to bring in the bucks and i guess thats why it is still alive together with prostitution. is it worse then prostitution?nope indian movies are shown in UAE where the women wear revealing clothes. nothing wrong with it but it has no links whatsoever with Islam. Bora Bora
You managed to contradict yourself in the same post. rudeboy
sorry i meant you wont see belly dancing in public areas like in front of a school, in a park etc.
desert yes it is open but its arranged by a group tour. so only those on the tour can watch it no1 else. kanelli
What don't you understand... bellydance is found in Egypt, Turkey, throughout the Middle East... Is Islam not present in those countries?
Bellydance itself is not immoral and should not be compared to prostitution. It is a beautiful dance that doesn't need to be done only by women for men, and using the kinds of costumes that originated in the US at the World Fair. Dancing of any sort can be viewed as sensual or s.e.x.u.al, so I don't know why bellydance gets a bad rap. It wasn't until hardline Islamists started saying it was bad that bellydance is viewed as shameful by some. Then again, hardliners don't like any music, dance, images of humans doing anything... very restrictive. So sad for such a beautiful dance for women to enjoy, especially for childbirth. Let men and religion get their hands on something and it suddenly becomes "dirty"... Speedhump
You're being silly now :D
A public hug between any s*xes without any 'passionate' contact of lips or other parts of course should be accepted as affection not s*x (even between lovers). but even this is prohibited in the ME ;) maximusprime
Where is that marina liquor store, I have been trying to find it K-Dog Its on the Marina Walk where the fountains are, right next to the Pharmacy Nucleus
From Islamic point of view, something doesn't seem right. naruto
diffrenets in views and different clutures..and yes from islamic point of view holding hands for men is allowed.. if i hold my friend hands does not mean im gay..its ur inner intention that determin wether its HALAL or HARAM..try to figure this out :lol: naruto
sorry K-dog i know my religion very well and it does not make me narrow minded ..i dont need to follow the westren culture just to show that im open minded..and sorry again if its okay for ur kids to watch porns its not okay with me..i dont want my kids to see two strangers kissing each other ..showing ur kids that u love ur wife is not by kissing in my point of view ..there are many ways, for example respect ur wife, dont cheat on her ..in the west the man wake up in the morning kiss his wife in front of his kids just to show them that he love thier mother..in the night he cheat on her ..they get divorced and seperated and the kids are shocked.
u have ur own culture and i have mine ,so mind ur own culture plz.i dont mind if u have sexx with ur wife in the public, but please obay the rules and dont try doing that here..
peace .bro Bora Bora My observation: Arab culture: men "air kiss". Lebanese kiss three times, Egyptian 2 times, as do the women. Italian men and women "kiss" on the check when they meet. Asian culture: What I have seen in Dubai goes way over the casual. Asians not only hold hands but I have seen them with their arms wrapped around each others waist or one has his arm draped over the shoulders of the one he is walking with and sometimes the free hand is resting on the other one's chest. They literally hang on each other. If a married couple did that it would probably be considered unacceptable. gtmash
Of course, the above stuff is more regular culture than actual gayness. Homos are truly recent Western concept, and I have come across Asians and Iranians who never even heard of the concept before. Speedhump
That is totally pathetic. It's well known that homosexuality was open and rife in the Middle East, shocking Western travelers hundreds of years ago! Speedhump 30 seconds' on the internet found: ={DE9BC115-7388-46A3-8ED9-813BD71AEA25} Islam's Love-Hate Relationship with Homosexuality "A Moslem who is the active partner in sexual relations with other men is not considered a “homosexual”" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, no I'm not gay...I'm just scr*wing this guy.... I think I don't understand..... :D Bora Bora I'm sure that gtmash thinks this is just something else that the westerners have brought to the UAE and they only found out about it "recently". Will someone pick me up off the floor. I fell off my chair from laughing so hard. :3some: rudeboy men kissing each other on the cheeks is not GAY. its a culture thing. when two guys hug is that gay or to show their affectionaite? by shaking hands is that gay? Bora Bora
We know that but apparently someone else may have a different understanding (being nice here). Speedhump :D Sir Thomas Sherley(1564–1633) “For their Sodommerye they use it soe publiquely and impudentlye as an honest Christian woulde shame to companye his wyffe as they do with their buggeringe boys" (apology for the Middle English!) Speedhump
Sure. Men kissing men on the cheek or holding hands in public is not gay, in my opinion. It is a cultural display of friendship in many countries. Exchange of bodily fluids is totally another matter...... Snow I think Dubai is just mad at Britain and BBC for making such a big deal out of the beach couple so they created this new set of rules just for annoyance. rudeboy
yep in saudi yes but not in UAE Nucleus
It doesn't mean gay, but it is disliked:
Speedhump
You're still talking rubbish. the article I found quotes from various sources. It doesn't matter at all if you haven't heard of the website it was re-printed on. Do you only believe what's printed in Gulf News and Government websites? I guess so....sure, everything else is just lies made up to hurt you....this Arabic paranoia it out of control.
Wow, you asked Indian garage mechanics about homos*xuality and they told you they never heard of it? Don't you think you just embarassed the poor guys (and girls) with your insensitive questions? And why were you talking about it anyway, what's with you???
Excuse me but who mentioned Emirati's? I think you were reading someone else's post.
Homosexuality has been rife in the ME for thousands of years, when in Britain we were still living in mud huts, Arabs were exploring each others caves. It's very well documented and you can find out if you really want to, rather than trying to proposition greasemonkeys in Sharjah and aircon mechanics, but, you don't want to do you?
:D gtmash
I guess I hurt your gay sensibilities. It's okay if you like twisting my words, man/woman. Just don't make a pass at anyone or don't start a facebook campaign to "bring back" homosexuality in the Middle East. And be sure to stay away from those dirty brown people who you look at from far away and think you know everything about them. naruto
its disliked...didnt say its HARAM or its a sin...big different ..for example its disliked for a women in islam to Intermingle with unknown males at work..its disliked in islam to shave ur bear..many things we do normaly are disliked in islam but they are from out traditions ..now its disliked in islam to shave ur bear but many muslims do shave ..its does not mean its not allowed or its harm and its a sin..big different her my dear friend.
actuly its allowed in islam to hug another male if he was coming from a journy, ie u havent seen him for long time ..
this is from the same link:-
We have already clarified in Fataawa 84311 and 87730 that a man hugging and kissing another man who has not come back from a trip is disliked and we provided evidence in this regard.
Ibn Al-Haaj from the Maaliki school, said in one of his books regarding the issue of hugging in 'Eed: 'A man should not hug and kiss another man who is resident with him, i.e. who is not coming from a journey.'
i hope its clear for you now :D Nucleus
So we can hold hands with a girl if intentions are not sexual? desertdudeshj Oh lordy. I just read the entire 4 page thread ( Slow night ) and there are some serious retarted ( sorry but thats what they are )remarks here. The laws being discussed might not be penned or though out very well and everybody here knows 99% of them will never be enforced. So why all the hue and cry. As for the rest who basically are trying to say dumb laws are the invention and unique to arab ( read Islamic ) countries really haven't looked at their own backyard. click on the country of your origin and sit back and enjoy. @ Speedhump : I find you a very rational and square person judgung from you postings here but come on ! Your quoteing an article on Islam and homosexuality from ! ( tell me you had one too many that night ) Its like me getting information on christianity from the national enquirer ? Come on mate give your self more credit, your more sensible and much smarter than this. RobbyG Two men that hold hands, longer than a second or five after meeting up with eachother....IS No Doubttt...Gayy. I'm getting shivers round my spine, while saying that.... :pottytrain2: desertdudeshj
Says the DUTCH man RobbyG Yep, we might be having some rules in place in Holland, just like for marihuana, but that doesn't mean me, myself and Irene, like that kind of gayish behaviour. ;) Ahhhhh the shivers again :lol: Speedhump
LOL. I'm not even close to being gay, and I'm sorry you want to keep your head stuck in the sand (actually, maybe a good way to 'receive'....:D).
Let's put it this way, The ME was the cradle of civilisation, where civilisation started, they say. So the first region to be civilised was going to be the first to start to refine and perfect all the perversions known to man, long before they reached cold and savage north Europe. I DO think homos*xuality is a perversion, some of the lovely cuddly tolerant people here will not like me saying it I'm sure, but anyway it's one which has been acknowledged by most of the world as 'acceptable', so get over it.
Anyway, you can believe what you want, and it seems that you will !
Cheers,
:D Speedhump
Mate, surely you mean you, yourself and Bora Bora... she'll be getting all girly huffy with you now....!
Hey, come on Mr Tolerant Dutchie, Indian/Arab guys walk along holding hands doesn't mean they're gay. This is soooo unlike you! Speedhump
Hi dude. There are so many sources on this it's not even funny! Do you seriously need me to spend my day finding them for you....sorry the first source I found was not 'acceptable' to you, I hadn't even thought about the place where the page was put up, but the article is a reprint, and also quotes from serious sources anyway, so why the biggie?
I only used it because it was in my face after about 15-20 seconds on Google which demonstrated my point perfectly. the information is all there, but some guys chose to ignore it and blame the west for ALL their ills.... :D
Anyway, no sweat, I hope. Red Chief
Really :shock:
I thought that it's even rather natural for young guys who have been living without families in labour camps for years....
:oops: Speedhump
Hm, yep I understand what you're saying. But really, it is also their custom back home. Honestly! Misery Called Life
Well observed kitty!
Ur analysis on Asians was bang on........ :) naruto
read my full post ..i said holding hands with men not girls. :lol:
my dear friend holding hands with a girl which is not (MAHRAM)is not allowed.. :D
in fact in islam its not allowed to have a girl friend..or friendship with a girl ..in my previos post i was refering to a male friends.. peace bro.. :D Speedhump
I think maybe any nationality when deprived of the opposite s*x in labour camps for years on end must have many individuals who would behave the same way, no? Of course I would just shoot myself.... :D naruto Misery Called Life
Yea dude, ur rit......I really feel for these guy's in labour camps, life is jus so cruel. Moreso in a place like Dubai, where all this glamour and wealth is jus floating around, these labours can see it all but can't touch any of it! Bora Bora
Are you cheating on me?? Nucleus naruto, I read what you said, tell me why it is not allowed for women and allowed for men. And include kissing too. Hadith prohibits kissing of men with each other, read the fatwa below.

I've to agree with Choco on this one, which doesn't happen often. :shock: RobbyG
Did I miss something? We just virtually came out of the closet together and now you accuse me of being gay!?
I'm coming to get you honey :lol: :wink: naruto
didnt we discuss this issue before.. :lol: ..now for women its not alloed in public ..islam said so ..for men its( MAKROOH)..so as far as i know my islamic religon very well ..u cant prove otherwise from QURAN..
if u agree with choc thats ur opinion ..but in the end u cant impose ur opinions outside ur country ..so u can agree or disagree with som1 but in the end u have to obay the laws.. :D Nucleus
Fatwa is there, you are more knowledgeable than that sheik? RobbyG I'm gonna stop watching/following this topic dudes, cause I'm almost puking my butt off when I see this picture of those men aboven kissing.... :pukeleft: Just to let you know... I don't like public gayishness. Rather see two woman make out with eachother. Awfulll GRosss. Iewwww. spit spittt crapper. ;) I'm out. moejoe here is a quote that sums up the western attitude to Dubai, including mine, "Dubai is desperate to be loved. It's the kid at school with parents that bought the best and newest games. You go round, play with them, ignore him because he's boring and don't care if you break anything because its not yours anyway". sage & onion
Crap RobbyG
Yeah, I laid an egg also, just yet....
Out 8) Speedhump
Ignore the troll..... moejoe
Yes ignore, just like you filthy kufrs ignore the religion and culture of the UAE, just like you ignore the people as if they are the ones out of place. Just like you try to develop your own little colonies, and live in Dubai as if its you own the country yet you have no loyalties to it, and dont even act with consideration to the culture and religion. My mother is Emirati and she wears the full veil and I am disgusted that when she returned to Dubai she was stared at by slutty disrespectful whores and had to tolerate comments from western kufr cunts. As if she was the one with something to be ashamed of. My cousins are fed up with westerners acting with tension the minute an Emirati walks into a cafe. They are fed up hearing anti Islamic comments by western pricks whenever the Athaan goes off in a mall, why do they go there if they hate the race, culture and religion?
Anyways having, been to London, having seen how in racist westerners are to Arabs and how much they hate Muslims I can assure many young emiratis will no longer be tolerating you kuffr cunts. Speedhump
I think your post will be edited for your digraceful language. Not very respectul and quite irreligious. Permit me to say you are no Muslim with such behaviour. Thank God the majority of peope are not like you. Most westerners here are not as you described, and thankfully most Emiratis are not at hate filled and intolerant as you, whatever rock you crawled out from under. Speedhump hey guys, why do the idiots always pick my post to reply to :D :D :D moejoe
I am a Muslim, and infact most other Emirati's also despise the type of westerners that I refer to. Maybe you do not interact with many Emiratis or just a few. RobbyG
You said you've been to London. Those guys are puppies compared to Europe. They even hold out Mr. Wilders, afraid that by lecturing his freedom of speech, a small muslim riot may occur... C'mon the English are puppies for muslims. So it cannot be taken serious what you said.
And ok, suppose all expats and Westerners alike leave Dubai instantly...are you going to foot the electricity, water bills that will exploid upwards since the desalination plant still has to work to get a few liters of water up for what? 10 percent emirati residents...?
Not even mentioning the ghosttown it will become and truly unaffordable for the locals. You guys NEED people to sustain growth.
What a short-fused MoJo are you dude. More toasted than my crapper... :pottytrain5:
I'm getting MB tickles again....oh boy :lol: Speedhump
I don't accept that you are a good Muslim because your aggression and bad language is completely un-islamic. You are a poor Muslim, your mother would be ashamed at your behaviour. Speedhump I also am ashamed and disgusted at the behaviour and dress of SOME 'westerners' but your attitude of 'you people' to every westerner is a disgrace. I am not 'you people' and I will thank you not to post here with such racist comments. If you went to London I guess you missed the Muslim ghettos of Leicester, Bradford, etc. NO INTEGRATION leads to distrust and bad feelings on both side., not only in the UAE. I guess your family have a 5 bedroom house near to Marble Arch so you don't come anywhere near these enclaves, but they are also on the increase in London too. If you want to be educated about the way of things outside of the ME: moejoe
Yes puppies, women in Hijabs being spat on, women in Veils having it ripped off. Students getting beaten and killed for being Arab/Muslim. And you call London puppies for Muslims? Maybe I have anger because I know these things happen, and then I see westerners in Dubai lording it like with no respect. Also, if more Emiratis knew what I knew they would not stay quiet. And I have been to Geneva and it is nowhere near as bad RobbyG I honestly don't believe this unless you can give us some proof. Offcourse excesses happen but I'm not buying it simply for someone his word. Show it to me whats troubling you. And don't be so short fused son. We're no bully's here. Make your point... Speedhump
Robby he can't give proof that there has ever been anything more than isolated incidents, but he just 'knows' it happens, see?
There are racial killings all over the world. the Emirati in his Hummer that ran over an English woman TWICE outside a hotel here proves that. RobbyG Yeah thats true. Why do people always hammer on isolated incidents. Open up people. The whole world is rotten and it makes no difference whether your muslim or christian, jew or atheist, whatever... We are all the same. We simply have to get along with eachother...one day...if ever... sigh. ;) moejoe
It is much more common for Muslim women dressed in Islamic attire to be abused, spat on and even assaulted in the west, then it is for western sluts to receive the same treatment in Dubai by locals. I am not aware of any westerner being the victim of racial abuse, verbal or physical in Dubai, while the same is not true for Muslims in the west. Numerous Saudi and other Gulf students have been abuses, assaulted and killed by racist. The driver that ran over a British woman was not a racist and the crime was not racially motivated, if it was please let me know. RobbyG Before you even consider talking with your bias about Westerners not being abused or unrespectfully treated, which does! happen everywhere. I can tell you that. But more importantly, how do the local emirati's or Arab population treat Pakistani's and Indian's and even Blacks for instance...Nothing to write home about now is it? What I hear about overall Arab mentality in relation to the word 'worker' being equal to a 'slave' and therefore correspondingly deserves: 1. no respect at all, 2. low income, 3. long waiting lines and no assistance, followed by rude treatment 4. use and abuse 5. single pig ticket back to where you came from when out of work 6. ... And you find it strange they come wanking in your garden? At least you can learn a thing or thousand from us in Europe about equal rights and respect. Don't you talk about dignity you little ignorant MoJo. moejoe
Yes, maybe some people East of the Middle East receive unfair treatment, but this is from the sell-out Arabs and the ones that worship the very Westerners that despise them. Most good Arabs do not do this, infact go to a Mosque and you will see All being treated equally, the Arabs you talk about are most likely to be found in nightclubs.
Give me example of westerners being racially abused, assaulted and killed by Locals in Dubai. NONE. Nucleus RobbyG Not in Dubai no. Thats my point. Visit Europe for a day or two. We have these young kids from Marrocan parents that have no respect for any of us. They rob, they attack and get you scared in my own country with groups of 3 to 20 guys in a row. You have to be a strong f@cker to get yourself out from that! I can tell you that. I honestly don't know a single Arab in my neigborhood, but I do know the Turks. Had a few incursions with them. Few knives up in front of my friends face. Two guys wanted to get him after we accidently walked against them on the dancefloor in a nightclub. Never forget that evening. I had to fight with my life to get away from the Turkish crowd outside backing them up. My friend and I got six of them down, worked the knives away and managed to hold on until the police came to rescue us. (for your info: policestation was 50 meters away!!!) Fight took 15 minutes. The only fights I encounter in our nightlife are with rude non-Dutch drinkers. And 90 percent of the time they are Turk or Maroccan backgrounds. I rarely see fights with two Dutchguys in nightlife. Thats explains some of the views we have here in Holland. We get sick and tired of being harrassed or spitted on when shopping in city streets. GRrrrrr... getting mad again. moejoe
I asked you about Dubai and Emiratis and you bring up Turk and Moroccans in Holland, proves my point. RobbyG The only point you proved to yourself, is that you are no different than those Maroccan guys over here. Just as rude and unrespectful. Hence your reply. Speedhump
Same rubbish again I'm afraid, no proof of any systemic harassment of Muslims in the UK (as there is none). You are one of the few that believe that the UK is not a tolerant society, your view is the opposite of the almost two million Muslims living peacefully there.
If there are isolated indicents of racism maybe you can blame the tiny but very visible number of Arabs in UK streets spitting on our troops, TV's year round showing Arabs chanting death to Blair, Bush, and whoever else they hate (yes hate) at the time, burning our flags and bibles in the streets, demanding the death of a teacher who innocently allow children to name a toy bear Mohammed (PBUH), religious police harassing perfectly decently dressed western women on Saudi streets, etc, etc, etc, etc.
The Hummer guy? Oh please, the taxi driver was Indian, the passengers were white, they were in his way and he saw red, went crazy. He would never have done that with a woman wearing hijab and you damn well know it. You are deliberately half-blind, you see any attacks on people from ME as racism but not the other way around. Read in the local newpapers about the young Emiratis taking Indian boys (yes boys) and Filipina women into their cars, driving them out into the desert and raping them. It happens often enough.
As RobbyG said, Middle Easterners can be among the worst racists in the world, their treatment of workers from the subcontinent for example is disgraceful, look in your own back yard to find the rotten smell.
I know more people in the UK than you do, so that makes me right about the UK, according to your logic. A few bad apples doesn't mean the whole crop is bad, but you will only apply that to Arabs, I can smell the stink of your racism from here. As I said before, thank God that you are only part of a hate filled minority (in all countries).
I've wasted enough words on you now. Chocoholic I agree with you! I have had to sit and listen to some Emiratis saying they wish they could run over Indians in the street! These people have little or no respect from people from certain nationalities, they are nothing to them and treat them as such. Petrovic.Z Just a question do woman have to cover themselves like wear the hijab or can they wear whatever they like? kanelli
Another warped troll. So many false accusations and exaggerations. In my time living in Dubai I never heard any comments in malls about the prayers, and comments made to veiled women. Never have I seen anyone show tension when Emiratis walk into a cafe. There is huge number of Muslims in the environment and yet tons of non-Muslims continue to live and work alongside them without fear and with respect. So, moejoe, you are waaaaay off base with your comments. If you really are living in Dubai, you are plainly ignoring all the positive things in your environment. I feel sorry that you harbour so much hate for Westerners.
And Western countries have been very tolerant to Muslims, and that is why so many Muslims have called those countries home. Only a small minority of very biased, unenlighted people have problems with foreigners in their countries. It seems to me moejoe that you represent that same kind of person in the UAE. Something to think about. Speedhump for petrovic.Z: I'm sure there are Musims here who will answer you well, but in short Muslim women must dress modestly and not show their hair or body shape, anything to attract male attention. Some young girls consider hijab to mean wearing a headscarf only, with jeans, sweaters etc. Some women (usually older, but sometimes just wives of very strict Muslims) wear the full burka, complete cover from head to toe including face, and others do everything in between. The headscarf is often worn fashionably, showing a lot of hair which I think is not religiously correct, but this is a very tolerant country in general, compared to Saudi, Iran, etc. Women often wear beautifully embroidered abayas, the long loose dress you see them in, usually in black but not always. Women being women, they of course still like to look great, and will have beautifully made up eyes and faces, carry a great handbag, wear a nice watch, even s*xy shoes. Unfortunately there are a very few expats or tourists that walk around shopping malls etc wearing swimwear or see-through clothes, which is a huge insult to the nationals. I like to think it is their ignorance rather than deliberate antagonism, and if I get the chance I talk to them and ask nicely why they are dressed improperly in a Muslim country. Nationals in my experience don't usually do this, they keep politely quiet, which is a shame. Human nature versus religion, it's a worldwide situation. kanelli I once saw a tourist (male) wearing tight bathing shorts and a t-shirt in MOE. I couldn't believe my eyes. Then there was a tourist who got off a bus to take pics of Jumeirah mosque (during Ramadan) and she was wearing a tight white partially see-through tank top and a short pink mini-skirt. Tourists seriously need to educate themselves about their environment before they arrive. It isn't that hard to wear summer pants or throw a pashmina over your shoulders! Petrovic.Z
Great answer and i totally agree with you.. even though im not muslim i still respect other religion and beliefs i dont see why we as tourists cant seem to understand as you said IGNORANCE! naruto
ya im more knowleable than that sheik..not everything sheiks says is correct especially from internet..so to make it simple..its allowed for men but its (maktooh) and its not mkrooh for men if he was coming from a journy..for women its not allowed in public..
i know my religion very well i have a degree in islamic studies.
:lol: Red Chief
He-he,
Petrovich, a daugher of Peter, isn't a muslim of cause. There are different requirements in different Emirates (states). You can wear whatever you want in Dubai but headscarf isn't necessary for Christian woman everywhere.
You should wear more conservative dress in Sharjah - a skirt that covers your knees and a blose that covers your arms... Speedhump
Yes of course. I was only talking about Muslim dress code. Sorry if I misunderstood the question! Nucleus
I've degree too in Islamic studies. And that sheik is prominent Islamic lecturer and author, and he is member of fatwa penal in number of Institutions.
He wrote the following book which is pretenient to subject in this thread:

Link:
Now, sheik may or may not be right about everything, nonetheless, he has more credibility than you.
Even if I accept your argument, but you have to support your argument.
So I want you to go into detail over few things:
(1) Reasons why it is not allowed for women in public?
(2) Do you agree or disagree with sheik on this issue:

Give your reasons. RobbyG :happy1: :read: sharfraz
you dont need a degree for that!!!!!
:lol: RobbyG
:lol: Being able to listen is a virtue :wink: naruto
haa ..you have the degree you answer the Qustions.. :lol:
i made my self clear about the kissing in public ...peace bro :lol: naruto ما حكم التقبيل في الإسلام، مثل: تقبيل الرجل للرجل، أو المرأة للمرأة، وبين الأصدقاء والأقارب؟ الرجاء أن يكون الجواب مع الأدلة والبراهين في كل الأحوال، ثم رأي المفتي تقبيل الرجل للرجل والمرأة للمرأة بلا شهوة جائز في أصله، إذا كان في الرأس أو الخد، أما في الفم فلا لاحتمال إثارة الشهوة، وأحسن من التقبيل المعانقة لخلوها من القُبَل، ولأنها كانت فعل السلف، وكذا المصافحة باليد فإنها تضفي جواً من الود بين المتصافحين دون حدوث إثارة غير محمودة، سيما بين المُردان، والجميلات من النساء. قال ابن مفلح في (الآداب الشرعية):" وتباح المعانقة، وتقبيل اليد والرأس تديناً، وإكراماً، واحتراماً مع أمن الشهوة"، وقال مهنا بن يحيى:" رأيت أبا عبدالله (يعني أحمد ابن حنبل) يُقَّبلُ وجهُهُ ورأسُه وخدُه ولا يقول شيئاً، ورأيته لا يمتنع من ذلك ولا يكرهه". وقال إسحاق بن إبراهيم:" إن أبا عبدالله احتج في المعانقة بحديث أبي ذر –رضي الله عنه- أنّ النبي -صلى الله عليه وسلم- عانقه، انظر ما رواه أبو داود (5214) وأحمد (21444-21476) قال: وسألته عن الرجل يلقى الرجل يعانقه؟ قال: نعم فعله أبو الدرداء -رضي الله عنه-". وأما مصافحة الرجال للنساء الأجنبيات فحرام لا يجوز، قالت عائشة -رضي الله عنها- كما في الصحيحين البخاري (2713) ومسلم (1866):" كان -عليه السلام- يأخذ البيعة من النساء كلاماً، وما مست يد رسول الله -صلى الله عليه وسلم- يد امرأة قط"، يعني: يد امرأة أجنبية ليست محرماً له، وقد حرّم المصافحة أئمة الإسلام الأعلام كالإمام أحمد، وابن تيمية، وغيرهما ممّن لا يحُصون عدداً. وأما تقبيل النساء الأجنبيات ومعانقتهن فحرام من باب أولى، ولا أظن أحداً يبيحه أو يجادل فيه. وأما تقبيل ذوات المحارم فلا بأس به مع أمن الفتنة في الرأس واليد أما الفم فلا؛ لأنه محل المتعة والشهوة، وفي -صحيح البخاري- (3918) من حديث البراء –رضي الله عنه- قبّل أبو بكر –رضي الله عنه- عائشة –رضي الله عنها- ابنته حين كانت مضطجعة قد أصابتها الحمى، والله أعلم. أما في الفم فلا، منعه شيخنا العلامة ابن باز رحمه الله- وغيره من أهل العلم د.رياض بن محمد المسيميرى عضو هيئة التدريس بجامعة الإمام محمد بن سعود الإسلامية &subjectid=3699&subcategoryid=158&categoryid=15 its in arabic ..u have to translate it ..oh i forgot u have a degree in islamic studies ..so no problem for u.. RobbyG
This is an english forum so YOU will have to translate it for us in order for us ALL to read it properly.
This shows your incompetence dearly.
Shshh Islamic scholar he says... my @ss. Cut 'n paste activities 8) naruto What is the ruling on kissing in Islam? Such as: men kissing men, or women for women, between friends and relatives? Please be the answer with the evidence and the evidence in each case, then the opinion of the Mufti. Advisor: Dr.. Riaz Mohammed bin Amasimiri Answer: Answer: Praise be to God, prayer and peace be upon the Messenger of Allah and after: Men kissing men and women with no desire for women is possible in the origin, whether in the head or cheek, and in the mouth can not raise the possibility of desire, is better than kissing and hugging to kissing free, and it was an act of advances, as well as hand-shaking hands, they lend an atmosphere of cordiality between the Almtsafhin without create an undesirable, especially among Almerdan, and beautiful women. Ibn Muflih in (Islamic literature): "The permitted hugging and kissing the hand and the religious head, and honor, and respect with the security of Lust," and said Mihanna Ben Yahia: "I saw a father, Abdullah (Ahmad Ibn Hanbal mean) accept and face and head and cheek and say nothing, and I saw refrain from that and hated. " Said Isaac Ben Abraham: "Abu Abdullah argued in hugging my father gave Dharr - may Allah be pleased with him - that the Prophet - peace be upon him - Aangah, see what was narrated by Abu Dawood (5214) and Ahmed (21444-21476) said: I asked him about the man is men Iengah? said: "Yes, did Abu Darda - may Allah be pleased with him -". The men shake hands with foreign women may not be haraam, said Aisha - may Allah be pleased with them - as in the correct al-Bukhaari (2713) and Muslim (1866): "It was - peace be upon him - to take a pledge of the women talk, and touched by the Messenger of Allah - may Allah bless him and - never by a woman ", I mean: the hands of a foreign woman is not a taboo, has denied the imams of Islam handshake flags; Kalimam Ahmed, Ibn Taymiyah, and others who are counting the number. The foreign women kissing Amaanguethn haraam and a fortiori, I do not think anyone argues or permitted therein. The kiss with incest, there is nothing wrong with the security of discord in the head and the hand not the mouth; to replace that of desire and pleasure, and - Sahih Al-Bukhari - (3918) from the hadeeth of Disavowal - may Allah be pleased with him - by Abu Bakr - may Allah be pleased with him - Aisha - may Allah be pleased with about - when his daughter was hit by Amadtdjap had fever, and Allah knows best. In the mouth it, the officer stopped him Shaykh Ibn Baaz mark - may God have mercy on him - and other scholars. Location: the light of Islam. RobbyG Now you may stay 8) naruto naruto Speedhump
I'll sit back and get comfy.....
:D RobbyG @Naruto: I was just buggin' your little A-munch. Don't turn pricky on me now. You are the one that uses copy paste strategies in Arabic... and that on an English forum... I bet my CV looks more promising than yours. Eat that, little tosser. rudeboy sometimes this forum gets boring :D RobbyG
So true. A few hours less a day is a welcome relief :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ohhh laughing my azz off A-gain 8) BB does that mean i can smoke in my car ? rch RobbyG No, thats bad for your environment. New rule. :D KINGLOKI cant wait to move back to america ..... RobbyG
And that was the positive note on which we will end this thread. :lol:
Keep it up people: you'll manage. The mind is strong :idea: Bora Bora
Right you are (grrr, as usual). Thanks for pointing that out. viking-warrior *** You are all missing the point *** MoeJoe's posts lay it out very clearly That is what the true Emiratis and the vast majority of the muslim population of the UAE think of the hired western help. Do not kid yourself, some will say "I have lots of lokal friends" No you do not - you may think you are their friend, but I can guarantee they do not reciprocate the feeling, you are Side Show Bob to their Crusty the Clown. And as current events are playing out it is you westerners who will find yourselves in jail, wondering where all your Emirati friends with Wasta are now ! Thank you MoeJoe, I have felt like a lone voice in the wilderness until you so eloquently underlined my point. Speedhump
*yawn...* and you thought it was all over...
viking-warrior, you've made around 20 posts in these forums, almost all of them negative in tone, and mostly about lack of ex-pats' right in Dubai. The weird thing is I don't think anyone has actually tried to argue that expats have strong rights here..so...
Do you have anything at all positive or upbeat to contribute to these forums? I agree you are 100 percent entitled to your opinions and to air them (over and over if you wish), but you are really in danger of being a one trick pony.
Isn't this subject just about done to death now? viking-warrior *yawn....* a one trick pony, ...... were I only that limted, I would still be in Dubai Your attempts at being as pithy as Robbie only serves to highlight your stubborn reluctance to face up to or even acknowledge reality, and the the number of posts that you make can only lead one of a number of conclusions (a) you have so much time on your hands due to a lack of business that you can post 30 times per day on average (b) you are employed in a Dubai Government company and therefore have doing nothing to do anyway (c) you are unemployed / not working and are therefore hiding behind a freezone company for some other reason My comment was generic, not directed at you, so get off your high camel and get a life, this is not about peoples rights, or lack of them, it was to highlight how the people that hold your destiny and freedom in their hands truely feel about you (Again generic) and the fact that whilst you were rightly unimpressed with his language again no one seemed to understand or acknowledge the message therein. Alternatively, why dont you start a separate thread - Happy happy joy joy in Dubai ...... where you and your hoodwinked friends can talk yourselfs in to a frenzy of cuddly joy and bonhomie about the shared experience of 3 months in Dubai, I have lots of fun stories from decades ago that I could add You appear to spend a lot of time critiquing others whilst not really adding much yourself, always easier to be an observer that a player, eh! :roll: :D Speedhump
I don't attempt to be anything buddy, but I dont want to waste a lot of words on this, see? 'One' has decided to pour on more negativity I see, again, your right I guess :)
I spend a lot of time at my keyboard and on mobile web/mail but as I'm not a two finger typist and don't need to spellcheck anything it takes me hardly any time to be active here. Yor generalizations about me are not only childish but 100 percent wrong, which you would know if you followed my posts. Ever help anyone in the expat help forum? No I didn't think so. But all you hear is blah blah blah when it goes against your already made up mind mate.
I spent about 7 or 8 hours at the keyboard yesterday (on my bloody weekend *sob*) because customers decided they needed me. But I made around USD 5-6000 though on two deals so it was better than nothing. I checked forums/facebook personal email all the while as well. maybe you can't multitask....
I didn't say your comment was directed at me. Ijust said that you and your 'dontgiveaf** rants are really misplaced on a forum which is about Dubai, and shows you are a person who is unable to move forward in their life when something goes wrong and has to keep raking it over and over.
There, I'm generalising now!
Cheers Speedhump Sorry I thought you referred to yourself as 'one' (very royal), but I see it was just a mistype by you. Guess you couldn't wait to tear into me and check your post before sending.... No problem, I won't bother to comment any more on your 'I hate Dubai' posts, I just thought maybe you yourself would like to lighten up a bit. I can see I was wrong. I admit it. Happier? Chocoholic Oh boo flippin' hooo to the pair of you! My heart bleeds! Get over yourselves already, this thread was dead long ago. Take it to fight club if you really feel you need to have a p*ssing contest! Speedhump If you notice that was my comment exactly. Nothing more to say. I reckon the only thing bleeding on you today may be your liver after a Friday night out.... ;) RobbyG
You forget the parrot between her legs SH. ;) Speedhump I didn't even want to go there.... (err, can I say that?) RobbyG
Yes, unless you implied that Choc's got a smelly parrot down there....which raises the question; Are you familiar in that area? :lol: :lol: :lol: Speedhump
You're trying to get me into trouble! I plead the fifth.
But....what are those feathers between your teeth? Bora Bora Yuck!! You two are disgusting. RobbyG :lol: It worked majestically did it not? :lol: Feathers? you mean furry fluff from Bora. Ohh she's so sweet, I've eaten her alive this morning. I ate the A$$ first. Medium rare...delicious ;) kanelli Very ungentlemanly behaviour :evil: RobbyG Oh come on Kanelli, just having a laugh here. I'm good with Bora. Just playing a bit. Don't worry. We're just being...MAN. ;) Chocoholic Well I don't find it funny in the slightesat. Infact it's downright foul! RobbyG That, my Chocs, was to be expected. ;) I hope you can look at it from a word-game perspective. Its was the Humpmaster that really came up with all this 'bloody' talk 8) I guess this is one of them funny talk issues that in some peoples opinion should be banned and registered on a list of prohibited public behaviours... Misery Called Life
Alrit guy's leave choco out, go find urselves a strumpet! :lol: I hear Amsterdam's full of em? :) RobbyG
Lets blow this horn per decree. I took the freedom to present Chocs the Campsis Radicans, also known as the Blood (Red) Trumpet Vine;
Speedhump
Flowers from me too! Game over.... ;)
Chocs mentioned blood from the heart, I said from the liver, it was the Naughty Nederlandsche boy who first took it further south !! :D
Night all!
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Penis flower fans storm Netherlands
Rare plant draws large crowds to see the phallus-shaped bloom.
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By Jack Boulware
Aug. 8, 2000
After more than a decade of anticipation, horticulture fans stormed a Dutch greenhouse this week to catch a glimpse of the "penis plant," the world's largest and smelliest flower.
Originally from Sumatra, the Amorphophallus titanum features a prominent phallus-like pod that can grow up to 12 feet tall. It can take several years to flower in captivity, but whenever it does, the bloom attracts penis flower fans from all over the world. Time is of the essence. The bloom usually lasts less than one day, and then, just like a human penis, the pod quickly shrivels up.
Visitors crowded into the greenhouse of the University of Leiden for a peek at the rare blossom, which gives off a pungent stench of rotting fish and putrid meat. Humans will wrinkle their noses, but in the wilds of Indonesia, carrion beetles are drawn to the odors, and inadvertently help perform the plant's pollination.
ce*ce_me
i know..my reply is a little too late..it's a shame thing to admit..i just got out of the jail because, i lost my job and the bank in which ive been paying continously for my loans and credit card sent me in.
surprisingly, while in there, was shocked to learn about this news...for ive seen a lot of ladies being jailed for wearing those prohibit dresses mentioned herein, and some were jailed for just kissing goodbye to their lovers..there was even one 15 year old girll from russia who came in just because of wearing shorts and a sleeveless top in mall of emirates with her mom..
whew..what a law huh..well..this is their country and cant do nuthin from that..maybe just to bid goodbye from them... :shock: :shock: :shock: Bora Bora CC - so sorry to hear about your ordeal. Hope all is well with you now. Thank you so much for your post. Better late than never because I don't think there are any people here who could confirm first hand, as you have done, that the law is being enforced. What are your plans now? RobbyG
How long did you had to reside in jail?
Can you tell us some more about you experience and the circumstances?
Thnnks ce*ce_me
was there for 40 days..hmmm..difficult..really..traumatic even..imagine having a call in between ur lunch, only to find out ull be jailed and leaving ur child and husband at home..
traumatic Bora Bora CC, if it is not too personal what were you jailed for? Where are you from? I understand that the woman's jail is horrible. sage & onion
She had already noted that bad debts were the reason I believe RobbyG
Bora is a little distracted, since the has got her big puny eyes focussed on yet another male boy toy 8)
Excuse her for being very unattractive at this point :wink: :lol: 8) sage & onion
Being rather unkind don't you think? RobbyG No, she gets it. You clearly don't ;) sage & onion
Gets what? Bora Bora sage & onion
What exactly are you trying to say? RobbyG ^^^We are on a date, but I screwed it.... Does that suit you? :lol: sage & onion
Really, the mind boggles :lol: RobbyG Mine still is too ;) sage & onion
Yeah I bet :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: RobbyG I guess I have to blame NYC for having such demanding woman. Always take, never give :lol: sage & onion
Thats the good old US of A ce*ce_me
It is horrible..really..was jailed for losing my job and my company informed the bank i took my cards from, in which i have been paying on time..they thought i might go and leave them..
from Philippines.. sage & onion
That's really terrible, the bank actions are bad, I changed jobs 3 years ago, I had no debts, no credit card debts outstanding and the bank still froze my account which had a reasonable positive balance. When I complained they allowed me access on a time by time basis via the atm, but it was really very inconvenient. The Jail time that you went through I can't imagine how bad that was. ce*ce_me
Unimaginable actually..I've seen people of different races suffering as well..
Though some are of guilty charges, but mine is not acceptable. No words can ever express the trauma and experience I had while inside the place. You'll sleep late only to be awakened by some girl fight. Horrible..really horrible.. Jasninder wow thats quite a list but many of them yeah as they say... be the romans when in rome, I understand many and rest of them I just cant digest.. like

what is the indecent way of holding each others hands?

thousands of locals would have been fined I think when uae won the gulf cup in football ?
ah the list goes on... yellowbelle Being aliens of a country, it's but right to respect its laws. They have their own set of mores that we have to understand despite its implications. After all, we are mere passers by in their land.



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