Tropic23
Do you believe in destiny or in luck?
I`m confused at the moment.....
Thanks for your postings :D
Lithium222
I believe in a little bit of both! :D
giggsy
That's a tough question. I believe you create your own luck. I believe that destiny can guide you with a gentle hand but then you have to take the cues, read the signs, make your own luck and ultimately make your own destiny. I do believe in karma though.
Tropic23
I believe also in karma.
Every action in your life gets a part of your karma.
I guess, I believe in destiny. I`m sure that all very important things in your life are already written down in a big book.
You can just make decisions about "unimportant" things.
For example: Which movie should I watch?
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That`s an unimportant decision......
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But when Mr. Right is sitting next to you in the cinema.....maybe the decision of which movie wasn`t luck, but rather destiny.....
^ian^
It's impossible to believe in all three... destiny, luck and Karma.
Tropic23
Thanks Ian for your posting......
Is it possible to get an explanation?!
sauron
- ^ian^ wrote:
It's impossible to believe in all three... destiny, luck and Karma.
Unless, of course, you are a Bohemian.
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
Thanks Ian for your posting......
Is it possible to get an explanation?!
Well... I asked Dr. and he said.
Destiny means it cannot be changed.
Karma means you get good from good, meaning you can change the outcome through your actions, thus negating destiny.
Luck means it just happens without cause or resolution from your actions which negates Karma. Luck also eludes to being in the right place at the right time, which is counter to destiny, because there was no luck, it was 'destined'.
All three are incompatible beliefs.
I wouldn't question Dr.D on these things... his record speaks for itself.
Tropic23
You can believe in karma, luck and destiny at the same time.
Destiny: The frame of your life is already written down.
Luck: Some "unimportant things" are in your hands.
Or like Ian said.....right time, right place....
Karma: When your behaviour is bad, when you hurt people, animals,...
and so on......then you get negativ points on your karma account.
You will get back all the negativ sh***in this life or in the next
one.
Well, it is possible to believe in k, l, and d!!!
Just the frame of the puzzle is ready.....the middle has to be create
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
You can believe in karma, luck and destiny at the same time.
It's a good theory but no, they are incompatible concepts.
In fact, any concept that belies some invisible force is responsible for your 'lot' in life is a load of hogwash.
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Tropic23
You can`t be sure, Ian....
Maybe.....
Many things on this crazy planet you can`t explain!!
I still believe in Nessie.
LET`S GO OLD DINO LADY!!!!!! 8)
Tropic23
.....well.....I guess......I need fresh air.....
Not_Sure
:sleepy3:
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
You can`t be sure, Ian....
Maybe.....
I can be totally sure - things just don't 'happen'. You have to make them happen.
Quote:
- Many things on this crazy planet you can`t explain!!
Well... perhaps you're proof of that.
Quote:
I still believe in Nessie.
I've been to Loch Ness, all around it... there's nothing in there.
lion0009
Your overall circumstances or condition in life (including everything that happens to you) yes
Tropic23
Cuuuuuute "Not Sure, if I`m really a guy, so I go 10 hours per day in the gym, so that I get hopefully some muscles, so that I can at least pretend to be male" is back!!!!
Not_Sure
:scratch:
:sleepy2:
Tropic23
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
You can`t be sure, Ian....
Maybe.....
I can be totally sure - things just don't 'happen'. You have to make them happen.
Quote:
- Many things on this crazy planet you can`t explain!!
Well... perhaps you're proof of that.
Quote:
I still believe in Nessie.
I've been to Loch Ness, all around it... there's nothing in there.
Ok Ian, I got it.
You are a realist.
That`s ok :wink:
....and thank you!!!!
My only aim in life was to see Nessie!!!
Now my dream is destroyed.....
Great work....
giggsy
I'm kind of with Ian on this one. Sort of. I believe that something does guide you gently along a path. By that I mean putting you in places and situations where you have to make your own decisions. I can't believe that it's someone's destiny to be homeless. Or it's a child's destiny to be killed in a car crash. We're put it those situations everyday. For example, I go to the pub. Do I have a pint or 12? Do I call a cab or do I get in the car and drive home drunk? Every decision we make twists and turns the path you're on. If I choose to drink 12 pints of glorious Guinness and get in my car and kill someone driving drunk that's quite a different path than had I gotten in the cab and went home to wake up the next day. I don't think destiny guides you on those. I think maybe people call destiny in when they're hoping things turn out for the best. For example, I turned a job down in Dubai last April because my wife wasn't comfortable leaving her home town. I obviously really wanted to go but decided my wife is more important than my geographic location. So now I'm here under a foot of snow, not doing professionally what I want to and saying, there's a reason for everything. I guess it was 'destiny' that made me stay for some reason. I dunno. As I said, I do think there is something that guides you. I believe you create your own luck. And I do believe in Karma. Whether or not that Karma comes from some cosmic place or my own head because I know what's right and wrong. Hope that makes sense.
look4thebest
"The harder i try the luckier i get" A. Golfer 199?
Could apply anywhere!!
:D
bonitta
I think that we build our lives by our behavior, attitude towards ppl,many other things.also I believe that some ppl has good luck...and I donno what shud 1 do to get it..unfortunetly. :roll:
Galactico
I believe in Destiny whatever is written does happen 8)
sauron
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
You can`t be sure, Ian....
Maybe.....
I can be totally sure - things just don't 'happen'. You have to make them happen.
Quote:
- Many things on this crazy planet you can`t explain!!
Well... perhaps you're proof of that.
Quote:
I still believe in Nessie.
I've been to Loch Ness, all around it... there's nothing in there.
Wrong! Wrong! You're Australian, you don't really understand. You haven't been DOWN there.
Globetrotter
- Tropic23 wrote:
Cuuuuuute "Not Sure, if I`m really a guy, so I go 10 hours per day in the gym, so that I get hopefully some muscles, so that I can at least pretend to be male" is back!!!!
- Not_Sure wrote:
:scratch:
:sleepy2:
I don't know about you all, but I sense some tension here... :wink:
Did we miss something here?
"The quarrel of lovers is the renewal of love." .... LOL
Tropic23
- Galactico wrote:
I believe in Destiny whatever is written does happen 8)
Is it written down, that you get my popcorn? :wink:
Tropic23
- sauron wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
You can`t be sure, Ian....
Maybe.....
I can be totally sure - things just don't 'happen'. You have to make them happen.
Quote:
- Many things on this crazy planet you can`t explain!!
Well... perhaps you're proof of that.
Quote:
I still believe in Nessie.
I've been to Loch Ness, all around it... there's nothing in there.
Wrong! Wrong! You're Australian, you don't really understand. You haven't been DOWN there.
THANK YOU SAURON!!! :D
Tropic23
- Globetrotter wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
Cuuuuuute "Not Sure, if I`m really a guy, so I go 10 hours per day in the gym, so that I get hopefully some muscles, so that I can at least pretend to be male" is back!!!!
- Not_Sure wrote:
:scratch:
:sleepy2:
I don't know about you all, but I sense some tension here... :wink:
Did we miss something here?
"The quarrel of lovers is the renewal of love." .... LOL
Hey Globy,
welcome back....
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"The quarrel of lovers....."??
I hope you don`t mean Not S. and me :wink:
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
- sauron wrote:
Wrong! Wrong! You're Australian, you don't really understand. You haven't been DOWN there.
THANK YOU SAURON!!! :D
Ah but you see I have been DOWN there. I have been to the Monster Research Centre, and I have been around the entire Loch... done the research, compiled the evidence... and I can tell you with 100% certainty,
there is no Nessie.
Tropic23
But that means, that you believed in Nessie before.
Cute :wink:
Did you also try to find the last unicorn and Big foot?
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
But that means, that you believed in Nessie before.
Cute :wink:
Did you also try to find the last unicorn and Big foot?
:shock:
Galactico
- Tropic23 wrote:
- Galactico wrote:
I believe in Destiny whatever is written does happen 8)
Is it written down, that you get my popcorn? :wink:
Why do you think im soo confident :wink:
but shhhssh Nick will be on our case again :lol:
Tropic23
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
But that means, that you believed in Nessie before.
Cute :wink:
Did you also try to find the last unicorn and Big foot?
:shock:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
sauron
Nessie is our national treasure. You're just jealous cos you haven't got one, ^Ian^.
Tropic23
- sauron wrote:
Nessie is our national treasure. You're just jealous cos you haven't got one.
Yeah, that`s it.....
Tropic23
- Galactico wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
- Galactico wrote:
I believe in Destiny whatever is written does happen 8)
Is it written down, that you get my popcorn? :wink:
Why do you think im soo confident :wink:
but shhhssh Nick will be on our case again :lol:
:wink:
^ian^
- sauron wrote:
Nessie is our national treasure. You're just jealous cos you haven't got one, ^Ian^.
You've never heard of a Bunyip?
sauron
Nope, do tell. Obviously not something you get from wearing shoes that are too tight.
Tropic23
Bunyip.....everybody knows that.
The story about a big snake with a beard or a a snake/human creature with fur, long neck and bird head.
You believe that Ian?
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
Bunyip.....everybody knows that.
The story about a big snake with a beard or a a snake/human creature with fur, long neck and bird head.
You believe that Ian?
I believe in the power of mind control....
Tropic23
I have this power.
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
I have this power.
I made you say that.
sauron
[quote="Tropic23"]Bunyip.....everybody knows that.
The story about a big snake with a beard or a a snake/human creature with fur, long neck and bird head.
But that's enough about Ian.
^ian^
[quote="sauron"]
- Tropic23 wrote:
Bunyip.....everybody knows that.
The story about a big snake with a beard or a a snake/human creature with fur, long neck and bird head.
But that's enough about Ian.
Har Har Har!
Sauron, not only are you a dodgy poet, but you're a dodgy comedian too.
Jeevan
Well dunno if these things exist or not but nessie, bigfoot, bermuda triangle ( i guess theres enough conclusive evidence on that one to prove that this area does exist) etc etc they surely make an interesting read and keep us mortals minds involved and entertained and interested for a certain period of time.
Would love to belive that they exist :)
Tropic23
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
I have this power.
I made you say that.
I made you think that.
Tropic23
[quote="sauron"]
- Tropic23 wrote:
Bunyip.....everybody knows that.
The story about a big snake with a beard or a a snake/human creature with fur, long neck and bird head.
But that's enough about Ian.
:lol: :lol:
Great Sauron
sauron
A big snake with a beard..........................Nessie just pales in comparison.
Tropic23
- Jeevan wrote:
Well dunno if these things exist or not but nessie, bigfoot, bermuda triangle ( i guess theres enough conclusive evidence on that one to prove that this area does exist) etc etc they surely make an interesting read and keep us mortals minds involved and entertained and interested for a certain period of time.
Would love to belive that they exist :)
They exist
Jeevan
- Tropic23 wrote:
- Jeevan wrote:
Well dunno if these things exist or not but nessie, bigfoot, bermuda triangle ( i guess theres enough conclusive evidence on that one to prove that this area does exist) etc etc they surely make an interesting read and keep us mortals minds involved and entertained and interested for a certain period of time.
Would love to belive that they exist :)
They exist
Prove it :) and i will believe
^ian^
- sauron wrote:
A big snake with a beard..........................Nessie just pales in comparison.
I can't argue with this description... I do have a beard and a....
:oops:
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
I have this power.
I made you say that.
I made you think that.
I made you think you made me think that.
I know what you're going to say... and you're wrong (unless you're right).
Concord
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
I have this power.
I made you say that.
I made you think that.
I made you think you made me think that.
I know what you're going to say... and you're wrong (unless you're right).
:lol: :lol: :lol: I think you might be creating work for air traffic controllers!
^ian^
- Concord wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
I have this power.
I made you say that.
I made you think that.
I made you think you made me think that.
I know what you're going to say... and you're wrong (unless you're right).
:lol: :lol: :lol: I think you might be creating work for air traffic controllers!
Well... they need the overtime... I met one last week and they have it easy man!
sauron
- ^ian^ wrote:
- sauron wrote:
A big snake with a beard..........................Nessie just pales in comparison.
I can't argue with this description... I do have a beard and a....
:oops:
Hmmm, but how's the hair fall? You must be about bald as a coot by now.
No offense, Jeevan - on you it looks good.
Tropic23
- Jeevan wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
- Jeevan wrote:
Well dunno if these things exist or not but nessie, bigfoot, bermuda triangle ( i guess theres enough conclusive evidence on that one to prove that this area does exist) etc etc they surely make an interesting read and keep us mortals minds involved and entertained and interested for a certain period of time.
Would love to belive that they exist :)
They exist
Prove it :) and i will believe
I will...
Jeevan
- sauron wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- sauron wrote:
A big snake with a beard..........................Nessie just pales in comparison.
I can't argue with this description... I do have a beard and a....
:oops:
Hmmm, but how's the hair fall? You must be about bald as a coot by now.
No offense, Jeevan - on you it looks good.
man u confuse me :shock: when did u see me we havent even met as yet
Tropic23
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
I have this power.
I made you say that.
I made you think that.
I made you think you made me think that.
I know what you're going to say... and you're wrong (unless you're right).
I am right
Tropic23
- Jeevan wrote:
- sauron wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- sauron wrote:
A big snake with a beard..........................Nessie just pales in comparison.
I can't argue with this description... I do have a beard and a....
:oops:
Hmmm, but how's the hair fall? You must be about bald as a coot by now.
No offense, Jeevan - on you it looks good.
man u confuse me :shock: when did u see me we havent even met as yet
That`s scary....
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
I have this power.
I made you say that.
I made you think that.
I made you think you made me think that.
I know what you're going to say... and you're wrong (unless you're right).
I am right
Are you sure... or do you just think you're right?
Tropic23
But Sauron is right.
You look good without hair, Jeev.
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
- Jeevan wrote:
- sauron wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- sauron wrote:
A big snake with a beard..........................Nessie just pales in comparison.
I can't argue with this description... I do have a beard and a....
:oops:
Hmmm, but how's the hair fall? You must be about bald as a coot by now.
No offense, Jeevan - on you it looks good.
man u confuse me :shock: when did u see me we havent even met as yet
That`s scary....
Wait until you meet him!
Jeevan
- Tropic23 wrote:
- Jeevan wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
- Jeevan wrote:
Well dunno if these things exist or not but nessie, bigfoot, bermuda triangle ( i guess theres enough conclusive evidence on that one to prove that this area does exist) etc etc they surely make an interesting read and keep us mortals minds involved and entertained and interested for a certain period of time.
Would love to belive that they exist :)
They exist
Prove it :) and i will believe
I will...
will wait :)
sauron
- Jeevan wrote:
- sauron wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- sauron wrote:
A big snake with a beard..........................Nessie just pales in comparison.
I can't argue with this description... I do have a beard and a....
:oops:
Hmmm, but how's the hair fall? You must be about bald as a coot by now.
No offense, Jeevan - on you it looks good.
man u confuse me :shock: when did u see me we havent even met as yet
You said you look like your avatar. I believe that. I also believe in Unicorns. Ian made me say that.
Jeevan
^^ :lol: :lol: :lol:
^ian^
- sauron wrote:
- Jeevan wrote:
- sauron wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- sauron wrote:
A big snake with a beard..........................Nessie just pales in comparison.
I can't argue with this description... I do have a beard and a....
:oops:
Hmmm, but how's the hair fall? You must be about bald as a coot by now.
No offense, Jeevan - on you it looks good.
man u confuse me :shock: when did u see me we havent even met as yet
You said you look like your avatar. I believe that. I also believe in Unicorns. Ian made me say that.
Wasn't me. Part of mind control is not being obvious about it.
Plus you need something to work with.
I mean, what good is pottery without clay?
Tropic23
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
I have this power.
I made you say that.
I made you think that.
I made you think you made me think that.
I know what you're going to say... and you're wrong (unless you're right).
I am right
Are you sure... or do you just think you're right?
I`m sure.
I made you think that you think that you made me think.....never-ending story
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
I have this power.
I made you say that.
I made you think that.
I made you think you made me think that.
I know what you're going to say... and you're wrong (unless you're right).
I am right
Are you sure... or do you just think you're right?
I`m sure.
I made you think that you think that you made me think.....never-ending story
I had nothing to do with it.
Tropic23
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
- Jeevan wrote:
- sauron wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- sauron wrote:
A big snake with a beard..........................Nessie just pales in comparison.
I can't argue with this description... I do have a beard and a....
:oops:
Hmmm, but how's the hair fall? You must be about bald as a coot by now.
No offense, Jeevan - on you it looks good.
man u confuse me :shock: when did u see me we havent even met as yet
That`s scary....
Wait until you meet him!
I`m not a scary cat.
Tropic23
- sauron wrote:
- Jeevan wrote:
- sauron wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- sauron wrote:
A big snake with a beard..........................Nessie just pales in comparison.
I can't argue with this description... I do have a beard and a....
:oops:
Hmmm, but how's the hair fall? You must be about bald as a coot by now.
No offense, Jeevan - on you it looks good.
man u confuse me :shock: when did u see me we havent even met as yet
You said you look like your avatar. I believe that. I also believe in Unicorns. Ian made me say that.
I made Sauron think that Ian made that....
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
I made Sauron think that Ian made that....
Tropic... Mind control requires 2 brains.
The controller and the controllee.
I'm not sure you can be either.
sauron
- ^ian^ wrote:
- sauron wrote:
- Jeevan wrote:
- sauron wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- sauron wrote:
A big snake with a beard..........................Nessie just pales in comparison.
I can't argue with this description... I do have a beard and a....
:oops:
Hmmm, but how's the hair fall? You must be about bald as a coot by now.
No offense, Jeevan - on you it looks good.
man u confuse me :shock: when did u see me we havent even met as yet
You said you look like your avatar. I believe that. I also believe in Unicorns. Ian made me say that.
Wasn't me. Part of mind control is not being obvious about it.
Plus you need something to work with.
I mean, what good is pottery without clay?
There he goes again .....the pot calling the kettle
Tropic23
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
I have this power.
I made you say that.
I made you think that.
I made you think you made me think that.
I know what you're going to say... and you're wrong (unless you're right).
I am right
Are you sure... or do you just think you're right?
I`m sure.
I made you think that you think that you made me think.....never-ending story
I had nothing to do with it.
Well,....you think that....
^ian^
- sauron wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- sauron wrote:
- Jeevan wrote:
- sauron wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- sauron wrote:
A big snake with a beard..........................Nessie just pales in comparison.
I can't argue with this description... I do have a beard and a....
:oops:
Hmmm, but how's the hair fall? You must be about bald as a coot by now.
No offense, Jeevan - on you it looks good.
man u confuse me :shock: when did u see me we havent even met as yet
You said you look like your avatar. I believe that. I also believe in Unicorns. Ian made me say that.
Wasn't me. Part of mind control is not being obvious about it.
Plus you need something to work with.
I mean, what good is pottery without clay?
There he goes again .....the pot calling the kettle
Don't be a saucerist.
Tropic23
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
I made Sauron think that Ian made that....
Tropic... Mind control requires 2 brains.
The controller and the controllee.
I'm not sure you can be either.
I`m the controller.
sauron
Ooooh, I love it when you talk dirrrrrrrrty.
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
I made Sauron think that Ian made that....
Tropic... Mind control requires 2 brains.
The controller and the controllee.
I'm not sure you can be either.
I`m the controller.
:roll:
sauron
:lol: totally out of control now - that was meant for Ian.
Tropic23
The topic was about destiny and luck and now we are talking about brain control......weird....
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
The topic was about destiny and luck and now we are talking about brain control......weird....
My fault.
Tropic23
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
The topic was about destiny and luck and now we are talking about brain control......weird....
My fault.
No, it isn`t your fault......
I control your brain.
So, it is MY fault.
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
I control your brain.
Well, at least I can use this as evidence against people who call me brainless. (Which seems to be a lot lately!)
sauron
I put it down to destiny.
Jeevan
its geeting difficult to track now :S
Tropic23
Everybody needs an excuse.
^ian^
- Tropic23 wrote:
Everybody needs an excuse.
Sometimes no reason is the best reason.
Anyway, I'm off to Bab Al Shams shortly.... later peeps.
Jeevan
- ^ian^ wrote:
- Tropic23 wrote:
Everybody needs an excuse.
Sometimes no reason is the best reason.
Anyway, I'm off to Bab Al Shams shortly.... later peeps.
relaxing at this time of the day :shock: if ur ,may u be gobbled up by a anaconda :lol:
Jeevan
DP
sauron
:lol: Now, now, Jeevan - that's not ...............nice. Bye Ian. Miss you. Wish I could escape from the office. :(
Tropic23
What means DP?
sauron
Dopey Person. N0...........kidding. Means Double Post. :wink:
Jeevan
looking forward to some respite on this thread:)
Tropic23
I see, thanks......I`m still confused with short cuts.
sage & onion
This lot is actually quite funny, however, considering the amount of times my dear friend Ian has criticized the Sage for his one liners etc., I would like him to go back over this thread and tell me what is so different about this thread.