shafique
Now that eh has expanded his count of terrorist converts from the UK to now include the US, it allows us to look at the phenomenon of Christian terrorism in the US.
First, this is what an Atheist site lists as Biblical commandments for Christians to kill non-Christians:
And here is an entry from February this year about a Christian terrorist:
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Christian Terrorist Strikes in Colorado
Given that their bible commands Christians to kill non-believers, I suppose we atheists should consider ourselves quite lucky that this sort of thing does not happen more often. Sadly, there is nothing unusual about religiously-motivated murder. What makes this case out of Colorado noteworthy is that the gunman was quoted by witnesses as saying, "If you're not a Christian, you're going to die" as he opened fire.
Eldora manager Brian Mahon, fatally wounded by the gunman, identified himself as Catholic. Evidently, the shooter did not consider this sufficiently Christian.
Gunman Derik Bonestroo may have been many things. He may have been emotionally disturbed. But it seems that one thing is clear: he was a Christian terrorist.
Now, of course I wouldn't be troll-like and argue that the above are representative of what good Christians believe, or what Jesus taught - but it does demonstrate that naive empiricism is a trap easily fallen into (whether you are an atheist or an Islamophobe living in the Orientalist past!)
That said, given that eh-oh refuses to condemn Goldstein the Jewish Terrorist, perhaps he does believe in the Biblical injunctions to kill non-believers???
Cheers,
Shafique
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I'm really glad shafique has created this thread so that now Christian militancy around the world can be monitored.
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- Iraq hit by triple car bombing
Three car bombs have exploded in Ramadi, the capital of Iraq's western Anbar province, killing at least 19 people and wounding up to 81 others, in a well-coordinated attack.
The blasts took place on Sunday close to Anbar's provincial government building, according to Ahmed Salam, an Iraqi journalist.
"The first two bombs went off within minutes of each other, the third exploded as the dead and injured were being carried away," Salam said.
The first bomb appeared to target people queuing outside a municipal office to claim various allowances, he said.
"The second detonated when police and firemen arrived on the scene, and the third blew up on the road to the hospital."
A number of armed groups have continued to target local and provincial government in Anbar in recent months, particularly after the Iraqi police force took responsibility for the whole province.
"Although there had been a period of relative calm a few months back, the war between al-Qaeda, the police and other armed factions is far from over," Salam said.
But no one has yet claimed responsibility for the attack.
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- 20 dead in twin blasts in Peshawar, Bannu
PESHAWAR: As many as 20 people lost their lives and dozens others were injured as a result of two suicide bombings in Peshawar and Bannu, Geo News reported Saturday.
In Peshawar, a car bomb exploded near a private bank situated at Fakhar-e-Alam Road in Saddar area, killing ten and injuring 75 others.
In Bannu, a suicide attacker blew himself up in Mandan police station, killing ten people and injuring dozens others. Relief activities were started soon after the incident. The deceased and the injured were shifted the hospitals.
Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani, condemning the suicide attack, directed that the injured be provided with the best medical facilities. While, NWFP Chief Minister Amir Hyder Khan Hoti also announced the aid for the bereaved families.
May have been Christian terrorists...
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- An anti-Taliban tribal elder has been killed in a suicide bomb attack in the Bakakhel area of north-west Pakistan, police officials say.
Gul Hakim and three others were killed when a suicide bomber detonated his explosives next to the car they were travelling in.
He was a member of the Bakakhel Peace Committee, a pro-government group that regularly confronted Taliban militants.
Several tribal elders were killed in a neighbouring district last week.
The attack comes just days after many were killed in two other suicide car bomb attacks in the north-west.
May have been Christian terrorists...
shafique
Typical response - the 'Muslims' did it!
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Cheers,
Shafique
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Wow - where did I say the Muslims were responsible for the suicide bombings in Pakistan, including one bomber who targeted a group of anti-Taliban tribal elders?
Could my post have not been any clearer? I said: 'may have been Christian terrorists...'
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A suicide bomber driving a water tanker packed with explosives blew himself up near a police station, killing seven policemen and wounding 10, said Hussein Ali, a police major in the area west of the city of Ramadi, 100 km (60 miles) west of Baghdad.
May have been Christian terrorists...
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- A roadside bomb has struck a passenger bus outside Afghanistan's southern city of Kandahar, killing at least 30 people, including many women and children.
The bus was travelling through Kandahar province from western Nimroz when it hit the improvised explosive device (IED) on Tuesday.
May have been Christian fundies....
shafique
Yawn.
Still with the ostrich defense?
What part of the thread's title and opening post confused you eh-oh? When you read 'terrorist' do you automatically think 'Muslim'? (That would explain why Baruch Goldstein is not condemned by you)
Cheers,
Shafique
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Sorry, I have stated in my posts that Christians fundies were probably behind the terror attacks I've posted.
After all, the proof is in the pudding is in the eating, right?
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shafique
Yeah, right ...? :?
emilymacwalles
I think that the religion must be for the people. When the religion is against the life of the people same that religion is?
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- Deaths in Pakistan UN office blast
Five United Nations staff have been killed in a suicide attack on the UN's World Food Programme offices in Islamabad, the Pakistani capital.
Amjad Jamal, a spokesman for the World Food Programme (WFP), said that one Iraqi and four Pakistani women working for the WFP died and several others were injured in the explosion on Monday.
One WFP employee who declined to be named, said: "I was on the upper floor when there was the sound of a huge explosion downstairs. I found many of my colleagues lying on the floor full of blood."
No claim of responsibility for the attack was immediately made.
The UN said that it had closed its offices in Pakistan since the attack, although no specific threat had been received.
Security camera footage broadcast on local TV showed the bomber walking through a door into what appears to be the main building carrying a half-metre long cylindrical object in one hand.
Seconds later, a bright flash fills the screen.
Security concerns
Officials said that the assailant, who was in his twenties, was dressed as a paramilitary officer and had asked a guard to use the building's bathroom, before detonating his explosives in the lobby.
Visitors to UN buildings in Islamabad are usually frisked or pass through a metal detector and the blast has raised questions over security at the WFP office.
Kamal Hyder, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Islamabad, said: "This building is heavily fortified. On the outside it is completely bunkered with bomb proof walls around it.
"According to the reports we are getting there were over 50 people inside the building.
"We can see that the front door has been taken out, the windows are shattered. But there appears to be no structural damage. Some smoke is still billowing out [of the building].
"We were told that many of the wounded were immediately rushed off in private vehicles, some belonging to the WFP itself. Then ambulances arrived."
Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary-general, condemned the bombing.
"This is a terrible tragedy for the UN and for the whole humanitarian community in Pakistan," he said in a statement issued in Geneva where he is on a two-day visit.
The attack could hamper the work of WFP and other aid agencies assisting Pakistanis displaced by army offensives against al-Qaeda and the Taliban in their strongholds close to the Afghan border.
More Christian fundie attacks...
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- Suicide bomber kills at least 6 at Iraqi funeral
FALLUJA, Iraq (Reuters) - A suicide bomber walked into an Iraqi funeral tent and blew himself up Monday, killing at least six mourners and wounding 15, Iraqi police said.
The toll from the attack in the town of Haditha, 190 km (120 miles) west of Baghdad, could rise, police said.
Once the heartland of a raging Sunni Arab insurgency, Iraq's western Anbar province has calmed down since Sunni tribes allied with U.S. troops kicked out Al Qaeda in 2007.
But Islamist militants have shown themselves still capable of launching frequent bomb attacks. Crowded gatherings are favorite targets of some militant groups as they seek headline-grabbing death tolls.
In August, a car bomb in a crowded market in Haditha killed 6 people and wounded 21.
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Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, who is attempting to woo voters across the ethnic and sectarian divide before national elections scheduled for January, has been keen to portray himself as the man who brought security to Iraq.
He is fighting that election on a law and order ticket. In the northern city of Mosul, currently the epicenter of Iraq's insurgency, Iraqi police say they have arrested at least 200 suspected insurgents in sweeps in the past week.
Violence has fallen sharply across the country in the past 18 months, but it remains a dangerous place.
Possible attack by Christian terrorists....
shafique
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the lady doth protest too much, methinks.
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- KABUL, Afghanistan (CNN) -- A suicide car bomb attack near the Indian Embassy in Afghanistan's capital killed 17 people and wounded at least 63 Thursday, Afghan officials said.
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- A car bomb has exploded in the town of Amiriya near the western Iraqi city of Falluja, killing nine people and wounding 31 others, a local official has said.
Two more attacks possibly carried out by Christian fundies....
shafique
Thanks for bumping this thread about Christian terrorists and highlighting that the media rarely reports on this aspect of Christianity.
Your other thread about Christian vs Muslim converts who commit terrorist acts (currently around 200 vs 1) also makes this point - thanks.
Cheers,
Shafique
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- More than 40 people have been killed and scores wounded after a bomb exploded near a market in Pakistan's northwest city of Peshawar.
So many attacks carried out by Christian fundies....
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- Thanks for bumping this thread about Christian terrorists and highlighting that the media rarely reports on this aspect of Christianity.
Are you kidding? I've linked to more than half a dozen terror attacks possibly carried out by Christian fundies in as many days.
To me, it seems like the news is reporting on at least some of the attacks carried out by Christians. I suspect that the actual numbers of Christian fundie terror attacks is actually higher.
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- A suicide bomber detonated an explosives-laden vehicle at the Sky construction company in the Jadran district of Paktia province, local governor Abdul Wali Jadran told AFP.
"Six security guards of the company were killed and another three were wounded in the blast," Jadran said.
It's easy to lose count of the numerous Christian suicide bombers....
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shafique
- shafique wrote:
Thanks for bumping this thread about Christian terrorists and highlighting that the media rarely reports on this aspect of Christianity.
Your other thread about Christian vs Muslim converts who commit terrorist acts (currently around 200 vs 1) also makes this point - thanks.
Thank you again.
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- Pakistan has vowed to launch a new offensive against Taliban strongholds along the Afghan border after a suicide car bomber killed 49 people in a crowded market in the city of Peshawar.
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- Kamal Hyder, Al Jazeera's correspondent in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, said: "What is surprising everyone is that immediately after the attack, the provincial information minister came out and said that he knew where the attack came from, and started saying that people should be united against the Taliban, even though the Taliban have not claimed responsibility."
What I want to know is, why place the blame on the Taliban when this attack was clearly carried out by Christian fundies?
Everyone knows it. It's simply that no one can criticize The Religion of Peace or else the PC brigade will take you away to their re-education camps.
shafique
Yes, interesting question in a thread about Christian terrorism.
Cheers,
Shafique
shafique
Thanks for bumping the thread once again - it is good to remind people that Christian terrorists also kill in the name of their religion.
The fact that the media does not focus on these events is also noted - thanks for making this point too eh.
Cheers,
Shafique
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- Deadly blasts hit Pakistani city
At least 11 people have died in two explosions near a police office in the Pakistani city of Peshawar, police said.
Local police said one of the attackers was a woman, making it the second time that a female suicide bomber has attacked in Pakistan.
Might be Christian fundies......
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- Bomber in deadly Iraq mosque attack
More than 12 people have been killed and 42 hurt by a suicide bomber who opened fire inside a Sunni Muslim mosque before detonating his explosives' vest.
Might be a Christian fundie..........
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- BUHRIZ - A suicide bomber killed six people and wounded 10 others at a cafe in Buhriz, about 60 km (35 miles) northeast of Baghdad, police said
May be more Christian fundies.........
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- A suicide bomber has killed up to 41 people near a busy market in northwest Pakistan.
The bomb exploded next to a military vehicle in Alpuri town in the Shangla district.
A military official said four members of the security forces were among the dead, but that the majority of the victims were civilian.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1012/pakistan.html
May have been a Christian extremist.........
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- In the northwest town of Kohat near Peshawar, police spokesman Fazal Naeem said 11 people were killed, including three policemen, Thursday.
"It was a van suicide attack," senior police official Abdullah Khan told AFP. Police said the bomber rammed his vehicle into the outer wall of the police station in Kohat and that the building was badly damaged.
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Minutes apart, between 9:00 am and 10:00 am, gunmen armed with suicide vests and grenades stormed the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) branch in Lahore, plus a police training school and a commando academy on the city's outskirts.
I take a few days off and I miss all these attacks carried out by Christian extremists :(
shafique
You're quite welcome.
It is certainly interesting to contrast the media coverage of the non-Muslim terror groups - not least the Christian ones.
As we have a thread contrasting the statistics of terrorist acts vs the Fox News type hype, there doesn't seem much sense in repeating the facts here as well.
Cheers,
Shafique
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You started this thread on Christian terrorists - Christian fundies who are motivated (according to their own words) to carry out violent attacks for the purpose of establishing a religious theocracy.
I agree with your definition of a Christian fundie and I am documenting violent attacks carried out by Christian extremists just as you have done in the OP.
Hopefully Christians will begin to question the texts and teachings of their religion after reading this thread. After all, it should come as no surprise that a religious text which commands Christians to wage warfare against infidels, dehumanizes unbelievers, and guarantees immediate paradise for its holy warriors who kill and are killed fighting unbelievers would inspire so much violence.
Again, thank you for this thread. It sheds light on the fruits of the New Testament, with its violent commands, and the Sunnah of Jesus and the early apostles, who waged offensive warfare, engaged in slavery, banditry and massacres.
Thanks again for this thread.
shafique
Excellent - I'm glad you took notice of the thread's title.
I totally agree - Christian fundamentalist terrorist groups should indeed be condemned.
I also extend this to Jewish terrorists such as Goldstein - but that is another thread and another unanswered question.
I see you are reverting to form and re-hashing your beliefs of a violent early Islam - fair enough, but that is for another thread and not really relevant to
current day Christian terrorism.
Cheers,
Shafique
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It's worth just reviewing what I wrote in the initial thread:
- shafique wrote:
Now, of course I wouldn't be troll-like and argue that the above are representative of what good Christians believe, or what Jesus taught - but it does demonstrate that naive empiricism is a trap easily fallen into (whether you are an atheist or an Islamophobe living in the Orientalist past!)
That said, given that eh-oh refuses to condemn Goldstein the Jewish Terrorist, perhaps he does believe in the Biblical injunctions to kill non-believers???
I presume that the last question is still to be answered?
Cheers,
Shafique
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- RAMADI - A suicide truck bomber blew up the main bridge linking Baghdad to Syria and Jordan in the city of Ramadi, 100 km (60 miles) west of the Iraqi capital, police said.
Suspected Christian terrorists blowing themselves up once again. It's almost as if the New Testament says that Christian holy warriors who are killed whilst fighting unbelievers will gain immediate entry into Paradise.
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- MOSUL - A suicide car bomber killed an Iraqi soldier at an army checkpoint on a road west of Mosul, 390 km (240 miles) north of Baghdad, police said.
More suspected Christian terrorists....
shafique
- shafique wrote:
It's worth just reviewing what I wrote in the initial thread:
- shafique wrote:
Now, of course I wouldn't be troll-like and argue that the above are representative of what good Christians believe, or what Jesus taught - but it does demonstrate that naive empiricism is a trap easily fallen into (whether you are an atheist or an Islamophobe living in the Orientalist past!)
That said, given that eh-oh refuses to condemn Goldstein the Jewish Terrorist, perhaps he does believe in the Biblical injunctions to kill non-believers???
I presume that the last question is still to be answered?
Cheers,
Shafique
Was the question unclear?
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- At least six senior commanders of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards are among about 30 people killed in a suicide attack in southeastern Iran.
The suicide bombing, which occurred early on Sunday morning in the city of Pisheen, in Iran's Sistan-Baluchestan province, wounded another 40 people, according to the state news agency.
More suicide bombings carried out by Christian extremists...
shafique
What is remarkable is that you feel the need to bump this thread to remind people that Christian terrorists also exist, despite the fact that so much killings of Muslims is taking place now-a-days. Thanks for this.
I guess that you wanted to make the point that if misguided Islamophobes say that Muslims committing acts of violence are using the Quran to justify their actions, then the same argument can be used for the violence carried out by Christian terrorists - for they carry out acts of violence
because of their religious beliefs.
You would also be making the same point about Jewish Terrorists such as Baruch Goldstein - who used the Bible as a justification for killing unarmed worshippers.
Thanks for highlighting these facts for us - that it is not only Muslims killing (and dying) in the name of religion.
Cheers,
Shafique
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I take Christian terrorists at their own word that the texts and teachings of Christianity is what drives them to carry out terror attacks.
It also helps when they supply their manifestos, communiques, and fatwas with numerous New Testament passages of Jesus waging offensive wars or the commands in the New Testament of Jesus calling for perpetual warfare against unbelievers (in addition to the passages which say holy warriors will gain immediate entry into paradise if they die whilst killing unbelievers).
shafique
Cool - the examples I gave in the opening thread are indeed Christians who use their beliefs to justify killing others.
I specifically chose those who unambiguously are killing people because of their belief of the Bible.
It is good that eh takes them at their own words. However, I didn't read a condemnation of these Christian Terrorists - although I think it was implied. Bravo - at least this is a bit better than the refusal to condemn Baruch Goldstein, the Jewish Terrorist who is venerated by some.
Cheers,
Shafique
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No problems shafique. I was only adding to your one example of a mentally depressed man who killed another man in a shooting spree by all of these examples of Christians who have carried out suicide bombings - or in New Testament speak, martyrdom operations.
shafique
You're welcome too.
I'll gloss over the fact you seem to be condoning/excusing the Christian terrorist's who do justify their killings with their faith. There are those who, like you, refuse to condemn Baruch Goldstein as a Jewish Terrorist and venerate his actions - just like there are those who celebrate the killings of doctors who carry out abortions.
However, I don't generalise and condemn Judaism or Christianity because of the actions of Jewish and Christian terrorists who use the Bible to justify their acts of terrorism.
It is interesting that in this thread we haven't seen a condemnation of the terrorism committed in the name of the Bible from you.
Cheers,
Shafique
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I thought I've condemned Christian suicide bombings in this thread left and right. :(
Once again, I condemn Christian suicide bombers who use the texts and doctrines of Christianity to wage holy war against unbelievers and condemn the passages in the New Testament which say to attack unbelievers, demonize and dehumanize infidels and call for martyrdom for those Christian holy warriors who, after being whipped into a frenzy by the militant, intolerant and violent passages in the New Testament, are told they will enter Paradise if they are killed whilst killing unbelievers.
Undoubtedly, these passages are directly responsible for contemporary Christian terrorism that is displayed on a daily basis, including the daily suicide bombings that seems to strike a new country every week.
shafique
Apologies - I must have confused your continuing non-condemnation of Jewish Terrorists with this thread.
I'm glad you join me in condemning the contemporary Christian terrorism taking place in the name of Christianity. I also join you in condemning terrorist acts being committed by Muslims in the name of Islam (or just terrorism in general, whatever the justification).
It's good to agree.
Shame you can't join me in condemning Baruch Goldstein as a Jewish Terrorist - but hey, why focus on the negatives?
Cheers,
Shafique
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- At least seven people have been killed and 29 others injured in twin bomb blasts at a university in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, police and witnesses say.
The explosions occurred within minutes of each other at the International Islamic University in the eastern part of the city on Tuesday.
The Pakistani Taliban has denied responsibility for the attack.
The blasts at the university hit the women's cafeteria and the Islamic law department.
Abdul Ghafar Quaiserani, a police official, said the two suicide bombers struck at about the same time.
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These violent suicide bombings are directly attributable to the teachings of the New Testament, where Jesus says in the epistle of James:
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- God has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of God; they kill, and are killed ; that is a promise binding upon God in the Torah, and the Gospel; and who fulfils his covenant truer than God? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.
The living should rejoice suicide bombers (martyrs) - those who do die whilst killing unbelievers
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- O Prophet Jesus, struggle with the unbelievers and hypocrites , and be thou harsh with them ; their refuge is Gehenna -- an evil homecoming!
Wage war against unbelievers and hypocrites - Christians who die will attain Paradise but their enemies will suffer the torments of Gehenna (hell) forever
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- We will cast into the hearts of the unbelievers terror , for that they are unbelievers; their lodging shall be the Fire; evil is the lodging of the evildoers.
Christians are to strike 'terror' into the hearts of unbelievers - Jesus says so
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- O Christians, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that God is with the godfearing.
Fight unbelievers who are near to Christians. This is what Jesus would do, afterall
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- Fight those who believe not in God and the Last Day and do not forbid what God and His Son have forbidden -- such men as practise not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Torah -- until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humbled.
It is He who has sent His Son with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may uplift it above every religion , though the unbelievers be averse.
Fight against unbelievers because they are unbelievers until the world submits to Christian rule
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- Lo! those who disbelieve , among the Jews and the idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings
Jews and pagans are the worst of created beings - so, don't feel bad if you kill a few
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- Jesus is the Son of God, and those who are with him are hard against the unbelievers, merciful one to another.
Christians are to love each other but hate unbelievers
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- And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshipping idols), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.
Fight polytheists until they give up their religion and become Christians
shafique
Again, many thanks for bumping this thread about the Christian terrorist organisations that operate today and the lack of coverage in the media.
I wonder which verses of the Bible they use to justify their killings?
Perhaps they used this very long list from here:
Cheers,
Shafique
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Probably this verse:
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- God has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of God; they kill, and are killed ; that is a promise binding upon God in the Torah, and the Gospel; and who fulfils his covenant truer than God? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.
Blasts strike across Pakistan
Three explosions have hit Pakistan, with the latest killing at least 17 people travelling to a wedding in the northwest tribal region.
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The explosion in Peshawar occurred barely hours after a suicide bomb blast left at least seven people dead and nine others wounded at a military base near the country's capital.
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The assailant was reportedly riding a bicycle and detonated the bomb when stopped at a security checkpoint on the access road to the complex, police said.
Once again, thanks for this thread.
shafique
I have to say, I am impressed the way in which you keep bumping this thread about Christian terrorism every time that Muslims carry out terrorist attacks - it is a good thing you remind us that despite the media coverage, Christian and Jewish terrorist groups also use the Bible to justify killing of innocents.
Very enlightening of you.
It is a shame that you continue to refuse to condemn Jewish Terrorists though - but hey, the world isn't perfect.
Cheers,
Shafique
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- TIKRIT - A suicide bomber wearing a vest packed with explosives killed a guard at a local political party's office and wounded two civilians nearby in central Tikrit, 150 km (95 miles) north of Baghdad, police said.
It's unfortunate that some Christians take Jesus' words in the epistle of James literally.
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- God has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of God; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon God in the Torah, and the Gospel; and who fulfils his covenant truer than God? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.
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Christian terrorists strike again....
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- A pair of suicide car bombings Sunday devastated the heart of Iraq's capital, killing at least 147 people in the country's deadliest attack in more than two years. The bombs targeted two government buildings and called into question Iraq's ability to protect its people as U.S. forces withdraw.
It's unfortunate that Jesus teaches, in the epistle of James, that Christians who die whilst killing unbelievers will gain immediate entry into Paradise and that Christians should rejoice martyrdom.
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And here I was thinking (due to the relative lull in violence in the past two days) that Christian terrorists had run out of bombs/ martyrs:
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- A car bomb has exploded in a crowded market in the northwest Pakistani city of Peshawar, killing at least 87 people and wounding about 200, officials have said.
A huge blaze erupted after the explosion on Wednesday, which came just hours after Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, arrived in Islamabad, the Pakistani capital, for talks with government officials.
"The death toll is more than 87. Most of them are women and children," Sahib Gul, a doctor at the city's main hospital said.
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Christian fundies are attacking the UN just like they have done in Pakistan and Iraq:
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- The UN said six of its staff were killed in the attack early on Wednesday on the Bakhtar guest house, but did not release their identities.
shafique
This list was brought to my attention - a whole bunch of terror cells in the USA:
And this of another Christian terrorist from 2007 (again in the US - there seems to be a rich seam of Bible-basing-bombers there!):
And here's a story of 8 Christian Terrorists arrested for murder - link has pictures of the eight 'hill billies'/rednecks:
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Staying with the Americas, the Bolivian priest who hijacked a plane after receiving a revelation this year (on 9/9/09) - another Christian terrorist:
And finally, a longish rant about Christian terrorism - some good points for eh to address (although I can predict he'll just blame the Muslims - that seems to be his standard response! ;) ) :
Cheers,
Shafique
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Thanks shafique - it's always interesting to read more on Christian terror attacks, including attacks where there have been no arrests or suspects (just go ahead and assume Christian 'fundamentalists' carried them out I spose) and a 'hijacking' of a flight by a priest who wanted to warn the Mexican president of an earthquake.
Here are some more attacks by Christian terrorists too. This time, they seem to be focusing in on Iraq:
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- At least 11 people have been killed and dozens more injured in four attacks across Iraq.
The deadliest attack killed five people and wounded dozens more in a market in the city of Hillah, in Babil province.
The cause of Sunday's explosion was a bomb attached to a cooler on the back of a bicycle, police said.
At least three more people were feared dead after a bomb fixed to a bus was remotely detonated in Karbala.
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Edit: It would appear that some of the casualties were the work of two Christian suicide bombers:
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- RAMADI - A suicide car bomber and a suicide bomber wearing an explosives-laden belt killed two people and wounded four just west of the city of Ramadi, 100 km (60 miles) west of Baghdad, police Colonel Jabbar Ajaj said. Ajaj said he believed the suicide bombers were targeting a passing police patrol.
You would think that there would be a shortage of Christian suicide bombers by now......
shafique
- event horizon wrote:
Thanks shafique - it's always interesting to read more on Christian terror attacks, including attacks where there have been no arrests or suspects (just go ahead and assume Christian 'fundamentalists' carried them out I spose) and a 'hijacking' of a flight by a priest who wanted to warn the Mexican president of an earthquake.
You're quite welcome.
The story about the 8 who were convicted of murder and whose photos were published I thought was particularly apt.
They are the type of people who, like you, would not condemn Baruch Goldstein either. (By contrast I condemn all terrorists and therefore can't be said to agree with methods or motivation of any Muslim terrorist). They would probably admit to believing in Rapture also, I'd imagine (perhaps I'm stereotyping ... ?? )
But, as I predicted, your response is not one of condemning the Bible-bashing-terrorists - but to play the Fox News Headline game and blame the Muslims! ;)
Cheers,
Shafique
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- More than 34 people have been killed and 45 others wounded after a suicide bomber targeted workers queuing for their salaries in the Pakistani city of Rawalpindi, near the capital Islamabad.
More attacks carried out by Christian fundies....
More suicide bombers:
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- Hours later, two bombers detonated their explosives when stopped at a police checkpoint on the outskirts of the Punjabi city of Lahore. At least seven officers were hurt, two of them seriously.
Don't worry, Christians should rejoice as these shaheeds will receive the gifts of Paradise for killing and dying for God as Jesus sez in the epistle of James...
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Christian terrorists carry out another martyrdom operation.....
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- The Taliban has claimed responsibility for a bomb attack that killed 13 people including a local anti-Taliban mayor in Pakistan's northwest.
At least 30 other people were wounded when the bomber detonated his explosives in a busy livestock market on the outskirts of the northwestern city of Peshawar on Sunday.
shafique
What is the obsession with resurrecting a thread about Christians killing others in the name of the Bible by posting stories about terrorists who you are happy to condemn because they are not white or Jewish?
I also don't understand your latest obsession with 'Qadiyanis' - I mean what relevance does a news story from 2004 about 3000 converting in India have to do with any topic anyone here is discussing? (It seems to stem from the fact that I quoted a list of Biblical quotes from a website which just gave the references and quotes in full - pretty much like I quote SkepticsannotatedBible all the time as well, but I don't see you picking on atheists. Is it because you assume the atheists are white??)
But why pick on a story from 2004? - do you enjoy living in the past! ;)
Is it because I keep asking you to condemn a white Jewish person who killed in the name of the Bible? Or is it because your count of Muslim converts terrorists is so much smaller than the equivalent count of Christian Convert terrorists (so much so that you refuse to update your last count of 6??)
Or is it perhaps because you do, after all, believe in Rapture because the Bible tells you so?? ;)
Cheers,
Shafique
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- I also don't understand your latest obsession with 'Qadiyanis'
Where have I brought up Qadiyanis in this thread? Did you get lost and are now posting on the wrong thread (which is what I suspect) or are you trying to be funny and divert attention away from Christian terrorists who have killed hundreds of unbelievers and carried out dozens of suicide bombings in this thread alone?
I understand that you are frustrated by the lack of terrorist attacks carried out by members of non-Christian faiths, but this thread was started to document Christian terrorism and I am simply adhering to the OP by listing terror attacks carried out by Christian fantaics - including numerous suicide bombings in Iraq and Pakistan.
Once again, I thank you for this thread and I think it's good for Christians to see just how violent their coreligionists are, assuming that Christians would take offense to the actions of fellow Christians and aren't really supporting attacks against unbelievers to defend the honor of Christianity.
shafique
What was that - did you say something about posting something not relevant to this thread about Christians who kill people because of their views from the Bible?
Surely not.
(And you didn't explain your obsession either - but then again, you didn't explain why you refuse to condemn Goldstein and whether it is because he is white and a Jew, nor whether you do believe in Rapture - which would explain a lot of your other 'special' views)
Cheers,
Shafique
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- At least three people have been killed and five others injured after a suicide bomber blew himself up at a checkpoint on the outskirts of the Pakistani city of Peshawar, police have said.
More killed by Christian suicide bombers....
shafique
- shafique wrote:
What was that - did you say something about posting something not relevant to this thread about Christians who kill people because of their views from the Bible?
Surely not.
(And you didn't explain your obsession either - but then again, you didn't explain why you refuse to condemn Goldstein and whether it is because he is white and a Jew, nor whether you do believe in Rapture - which would explain a lot of your other 'special' views)
(I noticed that you chose not address either your obsession, nor the fact you continue to refuse to condemn terrorists when they are white and Jewish - or your views on Rapture).
;)
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- A car bomb explosion has killed at least 30 people outside a crowded market in northwest Pakistan.
The bomb tore through a busy traffic intersection on Tuesday in the city of Charsadda, north of Peshawar, the capital of Pakistan's North West Frontier Province (NWFP).
Not sure if this was a suicide bombing, but given the number of suicide bombings in Pakistan carried out by Christian fanatics, I'll go ahead and assume so.
shafique
- shafique wrote:
- shafique wrote:
What was that - did you say something about posting something not relevant to this thread about Christians who kill people because of their views from the Bible?
Surely not.
(And you didn't explain your obsession either - but then again, you didn't explain why you refuse to condemn Goldstein and whether it is because he is white and a Jew, nor whether you do believe in Rapture - which would explain a lot of your other 'special' views)
(I noticed that you chose not address either your obsession, nor the fact you continue to refuse to condemn terrorists when they are white and Jewish - or your views on Rapture).
;)
Why do I continue to live in hope that one day you'll answer some questions?? ;)
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- Two civilians were killed on Wednesday when a motorcycle-riding suicide bomber targeted NATO troops in southern Afghanistan, an Afghan army officer said.
"There was an explosion and we dragged two civilians' dead bodies from the spot," said Ghulam Jailani Khan, an Afghan army officer who was commanding Afghan troops in a convoy of local and foreign troops.
More suicide bombings carried out by Christian fanatics.....
shafique
You argue that when Christian Convert terrorists kill and say they are just fighting to be independent - this is ok, but when a Muslim targets an occupying soldiers, this is terrorism.
I personally would condemn the killing of innocents as terrorism - but Islamophobes tend to not agree to this definition when Nato, US and Israeli troops claim 'collateral damage' excuse when they kill civilians. Do you now agree with me and call Israeli actions acts of Terrorism!!?
Hmmm.
But then again, given that the stats show that Christian converts caused more terrorist deaths than Muslim Converts (not to say that you only have come up with 6 so far, compared to the hundreds of Christian convert terrorists) - I understand your embarrassment.
It does also show that Christians using the Bible to justify their killings is a continuing problem - so again I thank you for keeping this thread alive (even if your selective quoting makes you look foolish again by giving examples of non-terrorist acts)
Cheers,
Shafique
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looks like back-to-back suicide bombings!
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- A suspected suicide car bomb attack in the Pakistani city of Peshawar has badly damaged a building belonging to Pakistan's national intelligence agency, killing at least eight people.
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- An explosion has hit a Nato-led military base in Afghanistan's capital, Kabul, according to a military spokesman.
The blast struck Camp Phoenix, one of the main bases used by Western troops, early on Friday morning, Sergeant Kevin Bell said.
An Afghan police source said the blast was caused by a suicide bomber.
The area had been sealed off by Western forces casualties were expected, he said.
I guess you could say that Jesus' comment in the epistle of James was the verse that launched a thousand suicide bombings.......
shafique
I repeat my earlier observation that you continue to refuse to condemn white Jewish religous terrorists who kill Muslims and excuse Christian Converts when they commit terrorist acts in the name of liberation of their state - and yet open yourself up to accusations of hypocrisy by implying that Muslims fighting against occupying forces are terrorists.
I happen to agree that all the guys blowing up civilians are criminals and terrorists - from Israelis to Afghans, but you first check the religion and race before you condemn.
Jesus' words about the plank in your own eye are, still, applicable.'
(And all because you are reminded that your quaint views on the Bible and Quran are laughable)
Cheers,
Shafique
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Please quote where I have excused the terror attacks carried out by secular Christian and non-Christian members of the nationalist/leftist NLFT?
shafique
I see that you are going on the defensive again - all I did was ask you whether your count had reached 7 actual terrorists yet and reminded everyone that you refuse to condemn a white Jewish terrorist who killed Muslims and justified this using the Bible (and therefore you are like those who venerate his actions - for they too refuse to condemn his actions).
If you do join me and condemn all the terrorist acts of the Christian Converts of the NLFT etc, then that is good - we agree that they committed terrorist acts.
Therefore you will agree that my count of 232 is an underestimate of the number of actual Christian Convert terrorists who killed/attacked people whilst serving in the 'National Holy Army' - and let us not forget that there are many instances in the list where people were killed for refusing to convert to Christianity (you can count these instances when you verify that my count of 232 is too low).
I await your updated count (perhaps you have reached 8 by now??) - and your confirmation that Christian Converts have produced more terrorists and killed more people in the same period.
I hope you won't be avoiding the statistics and reverting to your 'quaint' belief that aren't supported by hard facts.
Cheers,
Shafique
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11 more taken out by a Christian suicide bomber.......
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Gotta support the underdogs....
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- A suspected suicide bomb attack has killed at least two people in Pakistan's North West Frontier Province, police say.
The explosion targeted a police station in Badaber, about 12km south of the centre of Peshawar, the province's main city, early on Monday.
.....even if they are Christian nutters.
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- Gunmen dressed in Iraqi army uniforms launched two execution-style attacks west of Baghdad on Monday, killing 13 members of a tribe who took up arms against al-Qaeda, a villager and security official said.
The gunmen swarmed into Seadan village, about 20km from Baghdad before dawn and ordered six residents out of their houses, lined them up in a field and shot them dead, said Mohamed al-Zubaie, a resident.
The assassins then entered the home of Attala Ouda al-Shuker, a leader in the Sahwa (Awakening) movement of Sunni tribesmen who joined US forces in 2006, and shot dead three of his sons and four other relatives, Zubaie said.
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- Meanwhile, in the northern city of Kirkuk a car bomb exploded in a market, killing five people and wounding seven others, said Kirkuk Police spokesman Col. Sarhat Qadir.
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- TAGAB VALLEY, Afghanistan - Insurgents fired two rockets Monday into a crowded market northeast of Kabul where the head of French forces in Afghanistan was holding a meeting with tribal elders. The attack killed 12 Afghan civilians and wounded at least another 38, the French military said.
No suicide bombings........
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- At least 17 people have been killed in a suicide bomb blast outside the main gate of a court building in Peshawar.
Thursday's attack was the seventh deadly explosion to hit the northwestern Pakistani city in less than two weeks.
Another day, another suicide bombing....
.....by Christian religious fanatics....
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- A suspected suicide bomber has killed at least 10 people in southern Afghanistan, in an attack coinciding with the swearing in of Hamid Karzai, the Afghan president, for a second five-year term.
Christian fanatics blowing themselves up in markets...
What else is new?
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- HERAT, Afghanistan (Reuters) – A suicide bomber in southwestern Afghanistan killed 17 people Friday, and an Afghan lawmaker escaped a separate blast on the outskirts of Kabul but five of his bodyguards were killed, officials said.
The provincial governor of southwestern Farah province, Rohul Amin, said a suicide bomber on a motorcycle detonated his explosives in a crowded area of Farah City, killing 17 people and wounding 29.
Christian warfare against crowded markets....
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- * GARMA - A suicide car bomber blew himself up at a police checkpoint, killing one policeman and wounding seven people, including three policemen, in the town of Garma, 30 km (20 miles) west of Baghdad, police said.
* QAIM - Police shot dead a suicide truck bomber as he approached a police station in the town of Qaim, 300 km (185 miles) west of Baghdad, police said. Police managed to dismantle the vehicle without any casualties.
Christian martyrdom seekers....