Humbleman
This website is from New Zealand to everyone who loves peace and justices. It simply ask you to Boycott Israeli Goods.
Middle East countries, you should be ashamed of yourself, when can you have the courage to stand up for Palestine or any injustice against others human beings.
By the way Muslimbangladeshi, this effort has been done by all people from different race, colour, culture, and religion – from people who love justice and true peace.
Humbleman
Forgot to say that, Pepsi, COCA COLA, Live-in Jeans, Starbucks coffee are in the mix
Peace/Love
Humbleman
Terrible sorry, the web address is
mesheditor
Brother, I will be damned if i ever buy those you mentioned.
thanks
Stylinexpat
You will need to buy a laptop without an Intel Processor in it. :wink: The UAE will need to get rid of Marks & Spencer. The list goes on..
kanelli
Why aren't you boycotting American products, they are one of the biggest backers of Israel.
Humbleman
Why not, boycotting USA products it’s very good idea.
Let’s turn to Europe and Asia countries instead. India has been manufacturing fantastic technology. Large Western companies are now relying on India for their technology.
I bought a cellphone from China when I went there for a trip, and it looks elegant, has everything that Iphone provides, solid and working great.
So next time we see products labelled US made why not stay away from them, include their ugly gas guzzler cars. Personally I will.
I stopped eating American junk foods, McDonalds, KFC, Burger King etc, and I never felt healthier.
We can express our anger and frustration against injustice by doing as little as not buying the products that, we know theirs profits have been used by the Israel government to commit crime against humanity.
So let’s make our stand count.
Dubai Knight
JD and Mecca cola is wrong...
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Knight
gafoorgk
i'm with u humbleman. let's do it as much as we can.
dubai1970
Most of the edible western products mentioned to boycott should in any way not to be used as they are not good for your health.
In broader terms, boycotting just about everything from west will not be a wise decision. It is as if you are in the denial mood for all of the scientific achievement done by them. I mean can we stop buying their life saving drugs? can we stop migrating to west in search of better future for us and our children, can we stop going there for education and the list goes on and on.....and in the long term boycotting is not a solution to the problem.
Instead why don't you stop exporting the only thing you possess in the middle east ;-) can you? I bet not!!! Why? because you possess it naturally but west helped you to harness it and export it to the whole world and in return you get rich....
I am just as confused as every one else is with this conflict and others. Where the humanity is going???
Cheers
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Where are they???
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RobbyG
I've seen this topic passing by some days now, but I think a boycot doesn't help the Palestinian civilian. In fact, I think the cross border labourers that work in areas controlled by Israel, will only suffer from your potential boycot you're proposing.
What I also find very frustrating, is the stupid fact that the holocaust (WWII) is being named by Jewish leaders every time there is a threat to Israeli folks. Its been 65 years ago people, wake up for heavens sake! Different world.
In my view the situation is very clear; Israel is on a permanent visa in the Middle East. They should not expand their borders any longer and need to stop jibbering about a few missiles from Hamas, while not willing to give back the confiscated territories to Palestinians and Syrians.
Ok, lawfully they have the right to defend their people from incoming Hamas rockets. But this pathetic action being supported by the West is just moronic.
I hope Obama changes his support for Israel and due to the increasing pressure the contructive talks MUST be accepted with the palestinians! Simply because both parties are never going to give up, and Israel's (being backed by heavy military industrial powers) IDF forces will continue their efforts to kill Hamas, Hezbollah in urban warfare situations and indirectly will result into that what happened to the Jews back in 1940-45. Mass killings, be it somewhat less focussed on one group of (religious) people.
There is alot more to it offcourse, I know. But its starts to hang un my throat a bit. Israel failed.
The Jews know how to make a trade. The're experts in it. But they don't know nothing about proper kolonialisation. I think they should leave that to the Dutch. :flower:
my 2 cents
Humbleman
Fair point RobbyG
You see, what really frustrate me as well is that, this conflict has stemmed hates and radicalism, violence throughout the region and of course worldwide. But yet, this oozing pus has not been blocked by those major players, instead they have been stetting idly and let it to fester. I am very strong believer that, terrorism and radicalism will disappear once this conflict has been ended, why because those ill-minded will run out of excuses to base their ideology on.
I just don’t know how Israel would expects others to be in peace with it when its sticking it nose in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine’s’ territories. The problem is that, Israel’s government wants it all, and hell to others whether they like it or not, that’s has been their policy.
If the same thing is happening to the Jewish people, I will never hesitate to stand up and say that’s not fair. Because people are humans regardless, and for that they deserve my respect and fairness.
The reason why “the holocaust (WWII) is being named by Jewish leaders every time there is a threat to Israeli folks” is because to shut up those who dare to speak against the injustice to the Palestinian people. It has been working for them to achieve their agenda worldwide effectively. It’s just like when an overweight person used you don’t like me phrase, so others would feel guilty and stop criticizing him/her from eating too much.
RobbyG
Nicely spoken Humbleman.
You honour your name appropriately. :occasion5:
muslimbangladeshi
- Humbleman wrote:
This website is from New Zealand to everyone who loves peace and justices. It simply ask you to Boycott Israeli Goods.
Middle East countries, you should be ashamed of yourself, when can you have the courage to stand up for Palestine or any injustice against others human beings.
By the way Muslimbangladeshi, this effort has been done by all people from different race, colour, culture, and religion – from people who love justice and true peace.
Humbleman akhi, why don't you tell us please which culture and religion is behind the killing of millions of Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, their invasion, occupation of Palestine, threats to Iran, Sudan, and atrocities against Syria, Pakistan, Somalia and the list goes?
As for boycotting these trivial zionist goods, akhi it's not possible for me. I NEVER traded with zionist (their economy doesn't produce any noteworthy items anyway; it's just a big begging bowl to USA) , so no question of boycotting. You boycott only when you had trade relations earlier (like again, New Zealand had relations with the Zionists).
These are facts.
New Zealand, India, Western Countries, Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, and even Qatar recognizes and has relations with this terrorist extremist Western implant (specially British are behind this scheme) in to the region called the Zionist regime.
We never had relations with the Zionists and Inshallah most Bangladeshis never will support these illegitimate Yiddish speaking refugees from Europe.
I just wish we had a combined Islamic military command, so that we could dismantle its illegal nuclear arsenal, then blockade it economically until we launched surgical strikes to remove this 'tumour' from our brothers' lands.
Remember during 1967 war, Ramadan war, Bangladeshis (who were then one country with Islamic Republic of Pakistan) volunteered to fight the Zionists, and AFAIK, PAF is the only air force to have a 100% win record against the Zionists.
Noted pilot Saiful Azam (Bangladeshi today) and Sattar Alvi had great success against Zionists while helping out our Arab brothers. Yet some foolish segment of that population want to curry favour with nonmuslims (mainly westerners, even indians) while ignoring the great potential we can reach by unity, by combined action.
You don't even imprison and punish British couple who had open intercourse in Muslim country of UAE. It's a shame on UAE.
Dubai Knight
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
- Humbleman wrote:
This website is from New Zealand to everyone who loves peace and justices. It simply ask you to Boycott Israeli Goods.
Middle East countries, you should be ashamed of yourself, when can you have the courage to stand up for Palestine or any injustice against others human beings.
By the way Muslimbangladeshi, this effort has been done by all people from different race, colour, culture, and religion – from people who love justice and true peace.
Humbleman akhi, why don't you tell us please which culture and religion is behind the killing of millions of Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, their invasion, occupation of Palestine, threats to Iran, Sudan, and atrocities against Syria, Pakistan, Somalia and the list goes?
As for boycotting these trivial zionist goods, akhi it's not possible for me. I NEVER traded with zionist (their economy doesn't produce any noteworthy items anyway; it's just a big begging bowl to USA) , so no question of boycotting. You boycott only when you had trade relations earlier (like again, New Zealand had relations with the Zionists).
These are facts.
New Zealand, India, Western Countries, Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, and even Qatar recognizes and has relations with this terrorist extremist Western implant (specially British are behind this scheme) in to the region called the Zionist regime.
We never had relations with the Zionists and Inshallah most Bangladeshis never will support these illegitimate Yiddish speaking refugees from Europe.
I just wish we had a combined Islamic military command, so that we could dismantle its illegal nuclear arsenal, then blockade it economically until we launched surgical strikes to remove this 'tumour' from our brothers' lands.
Remember during 1967 war, Ramadan war, Bangladeshis (who were then one country with Islamic Republic of Pakistan) volunteered to fight the Zionists, and AFAIK, PAF is the only air force to have a 100% win record against the Zionists.
Noted pilot Saiful Azam (Bangladeshi today) and Sattar Alvi had great success against Zionists while helping out our Arab brothers. Yet some foolish segment of that population want to curry favour with nonmuslims (mainly westerners, even indians) while ignoring the great potential we can reach by unity, by combined action.
You don't even imprison and punish British couple who had open intercourse in Muslim country of UAE. It's a shame on UAE.
Blah Blah Blah...
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Knight
wordyexpat
Muslimbangladeshi, I understand your issues, but you're really coming across as a bigot-I duno tho, maybe that's what you were going for.
With regard to the beach couple-yes they were totally sloshed and were doing it- and if you knew much about the story-the UAE HAD actually given them a jail term.
But they appealed, and the fact that they were away from their homes, and it was Christmas time, I guess the appeal was granted(also, this is how the law works alongside justice).
This is actually the UAE showing its sympathetic side. It frees small time prisoners during Eid and Ramadan. It looks sympathetically at those who are not Muslim but have festivals of their own to celebrate with family and friends. Why do you wish things were any other way?
(and before you go off on one, I didn't and don't agree with the public indecency and Im sure other western countries have rules against indecent behaviour in public)
gafoorgk
- wordyexpat wrote:
But they appealed, and the fact that they were away from their homes, and it was Christmas time, I guess the appeal was granted(also, this is how the law works alongside justice).
This is actually the UAE showing its sympathetic side. It frees small time prisoners during Eid and Ramadan. It looks sympathetically at those who are not Muslim but have festivals of their own to celebrate with family and friends. Why do you wish things were any other way?
that's the most stupid answer i have ever got on that issue. uae just like many other arab countries don't like to be frowned by their masters who tell them what to do and where to stay.
Humbleman
- wordyexpat wrote:
Muslimbangladeshi, I understand your issues, but you're really coming across as a bigot-I duno tho, maybe that's what you were going for.
With regard to the beach couple-yes they were totally sloshed and were doing it- and if you knew much about the story-the UAE HAD actually given them a jail term.
But they appealed, and the fact that they were away from their homes, and it was Christmas time, I guess the appeal was granted(also, this is how the law works alongside justice).
This is actually the UAE showing its sympathetic side. It frees small time prisoners during Eid and Ramadan. It looks sympathetically at those who are not Muslim but have festivals of their own to celebrate with family and friends. Why do you wish things were any other way?
(and before you go off on one, I didn't and don't agree with the public indecency and Im sure other western countries have rules against indecent behaviour in public)
Wordyexpat, you are absolutely right in there my friend. It’s in the Arab culture that other cultures must be taken into consideration regardless.
wordyexpat
- gafoorgk wrote:
- wordyexpat wrote:
But they appealed, and the fact that they were away from their homes, and it was Christmas time, I guess the appeal was granted(also, this is how the law works alongside justice).
This is actually the UAE showing its sympathetic side. It frees small time prisoners during Eid and Ramadan. It looks sympathetically at those who are not Muslim but have festivals of their own to celebrate with family and friends. Why do you wish things were any other way?
that's the most stupid answer i have ever got on that issue. uae just like many other arab countries don't like to be frowned by their masters who tell them what to do and where to stay.
I'm sorry Gafoor, but I didnt understand your point---can you be a little clearer please? Thanks :-)
rudeboy
boycotting will not achieve anything.
naruto
i was looking for some1 who said ..nevermind ..anyway i agree with my brothers ...we should do something to help our brothers and sisters
Humbleman
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rudeboy
- naruto wrote:
i was looking for some1 who said ..nevermind ..anyway i agree with my brothers ...we should do something to help our brothers and sisters
lol if you really want to do something pull the plug on the oil supply see how they come begging to u ;) but i guess that wont happen and we all know why ;).
muslimbangladeshi
Russia, Canada, USA and so many other countries of the world produce a lot of oil.
As long as USA survives and keeps propping up the illegitimate children of yiddish speakking refugges of europe who were so hated that they were expelled from there, these tiny boycotts won't be of much use.
We need to form combined military command, economic block, political unity while maintaining individual countries' sovereignity (like semi-autonomous countries administering own territory but combining for foreign affairs, military issues, external politics, trade, investment, research activities ) among like minded truth, justice and peace loving countries.
That can easily root out the filthy tumour that is Zionism, with ease Inshallah.
TheChoosen
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
We need to form combined military command, economic block, political unity while maintaining individual countries' sovereignity (like semi-autonomous countries administering own territory but combining for foreign affairs, military issues, external politics, trade, investment, research activities ) among like minded truth, justice and peace loving countries.
That can easily root out the filthy tumour that is Zionism , with ease Inshallah.
This reminds me of the former USSR and a man calld Adolf H. (Austrian, not German)
MB, you are born in the wrong century :shock:
muslimbangladeshi
As you see Humbleman brother, even Arab countries' own resources have to be sold according to Western rules, if we believe the dutch moron.
This is wrong, what's wrong with the arab and muslim ummah. We must unite, pump resources into building common military, foreign policy, domestic economy, Free Trade Agreements, investments, universities (world class - like Saudi Arabia is doing with King Abdullah Uni of Sci & Tech) , research and development.
Islamic jumhuriyat of Iran is our most advanced country in this regard I'll say that. Also remember Pakistan is a nuclear weapons power. Just imagine what we can become if we unite.
1.6 billion Muslims
57 countries + more are invited
Largest land area in the world (larger than Russia)
All the resources in the world (oil, gas, mineral resources, agricultural resources)
Over 4 million active soldiers at the moment
And so on
Such a united Ummah no country on Earth today will dare to confront. Everybody will try to appease this Ummah.
Unlike others, I dont ask you to 'trust me'' after a claim I make; I ask you to use your own logic, and look at this above scenario of a combined Muslim Ummah military bloc with common political, foreign affairs, economic educational social justice system.
Who would dare confront this?
muslimbangladeshi
- TheChoosen wrote:
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
We need to form combined military command, economic block, political unity while maintaining individual countries' sovereignity (like semi-autonomous countries administering own territory but combining for foreign affairs, military issues, external politics, trade, investment, research activities ) among like minded truth, justice and peace loving countries.
That can easily root out the filthy tumour that is Zionism , with ease Inshallah.
This reminds me of the former USSR and a man calld Adolf H. (Austrian, not German)
MB, you are born in the wrong century :shock:
TC, you are in the wrong forum.
Adolf H was Austrian who spoke German and who won the leadership of Germany by democratic vote. Which is what the Western world trumpets as superior to all other systems.
It can remind you of anything but there is no factual evidence nor logical arguments against my points.
Westerners also remind me of paedophiles homosexuals. This doesn't mean I take it they are all alike; it's only after a myriad of documented cases that I conclude that.
muslimbangladeshi
- RobbyG wrote:
- TheChoosen wrote:
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
We need to form combined military command, economic block, political unity while maintaining individual countries' sovereignity (like semi-autonomous countries administering own territory but combining for foreign affairs, military issues, external politics, trade, investment, research activities ) among like minded truth, justice and peace loving countries.
That can easily root out the filthy tumour that is Zionism , with ease Inshallah.
This reminds me of the former USSR and a man calld Adolf H. (Austrian, not German)
MB, you are born in the wrong century :shock:
No he's in the right one allright. On the other side though.
If he doesn't watch his back, he's being slaugthered by a CIA missile soon.
We'll just talk some more about this nutcase and his extremist and maybe terrorists motives and possible actions, so that the CIA (who's listen in right now :wink: ) can send that rocket on its way.
MB, be prepared. You azz is about to get burned... bugger... we don't use napalm anymore :? . We'll figure it out Bubba.
:lol:
What a moron!
Typical of a nation whose national custom is paedophilia, incest, animal intercourse, pornography, prostitution, homosexuality, alcoholism, drug abuses and the result is a moron who can't even stitch together a single coherent sentence.
RobbyG
- TheChoosen wrote:
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
We need to form combined military command, economic block, political unity while maintaining individual countries' sovereignity (like semi-autonomous countries administering own territory but combining for foreign affairs, military issues, external politics, trade, investment, research activities ) among like minded truth, justice and peace loving countries.
That can easily root out the filthy tumour that is Zionism , with ease Inshallah.
This reminds me of the former USSR and a man calld Adolf H. (Austrian, not German)
MB, you are born in the wrong century :shock:
No he's in the right one allright. On the other side though.
If he doesn't watch his back, he's being slaugthered by a CIA missile soon.
We'll just talk some more about this nutcase and his extremist and maybe terrorists motives and possible actions, so that the CIA (who's listen in right now :wink: ) can send that rocket on its way.
MB, be prepared. You azz is about to get burned... bugger... we don't use napalm anymore :? . We'll figure it out Bubba.
:lol:
Humbleman
- rudeboy wrote:
- naruto wrote:
i was looking for some1 who said ..nevermind ..anyway i agree with my brothers ...we should do something to help our brothers and sisters
lol if you really want to do something pull the plug on the oil supply see how they come begging to u ;) but i guess that wont happen and we all know why ;).
They are too slave to their Western’ punters to do it that. I wish there were 10 of Russian Prime Minister Vladmimir Puntin governing the Arab world - I bet the situation would have been different.
Just cannot believe the Arabs would let Israel get away with its massacre of Palestinians kids and women. I know the world don’t care say the least, but this one is too inhumane for the Arabs and Muslims world to ignore. :(
RobbyG
- Humbleman wrote:
- rudeboy wrote:
- naruto wrote:
i was looking for some1 who said ..nevermind ..anyway i agree with my brothers ...we should do something to help our brothers and sisters
lol if you really want to do something pull the plug on the oil supply see how they come begging to u ;) but i guess that wont happen and we all know why ;).
They are too slave to their Western’ punters to do it that. I wish there were 10 of Russian Prime Minister Vladmimir Puntin governing the Arab world - I bet the situation would have been different.
Just cannot believe the Arabs would let Israel get away with its massacre of Palestinians kids and women. I know the world don’t care say the least, but this one is too inhumane for the Arabs and Muslims world ignore. :(
Humbleman. Fierce language you put out, but Putin will try to avoid this kinds of gas conflicts with e.g. Europe (the West). It is Ukraine that has a hard apple paying for its liabilities, sometimes even intentional to stir things up. See the war in Georgia that Sakasvili played out by striking first to their abject (ex-Sovjet) province regions.
Europe already figured out, they need to get rid of Russia's monopoly control of Kaukasion gas supplies. Europe is busy with Turkey for a new pipeline. Now Erdogan threatens to hold the pipeline if Europe does not accelerate its introduction to the European Union. Erdohan is more of use for Arab nations I think...
Although there were plans of a coup by Turkeys military staff generals recently being stopped before they could do harm to Erdogan, who they have disagreement with. This is one of the reasons Europe relaxes talks with Turkey and its introduction to the Union.
The situation would surely be different with a Putin in charge of the Middle East. The Western World would not tolerate a blockage of its main economic driver (oil) and logically we would go to war after the diplomatic talks would lead to nowhere. A halted economy is simply a severe threat to every nations income and producability and will evidently lead to war.
The Arab nations have their reasons not to go to war. They will never allow your kind of conspiracy come to reality as this is simply a devastating scenario for the Middle East and its world order significance. The sad part for Palestinians in that reasoning, is they will also be pushed out of the way by Israels Western military capacity, and this will lead to more occupation and domination of Israel once again.
Smart people will never let this happen.
Humbleman
RobbyG, my friend.
“The situation would surely be different with a Putin in charge of the Middle East. The Western World would not tolerate a blockage of its main economic driver (oil) and logically we would go to war after the diplomatic talks would lead to nowhere. A halted economy is simply a severe threat to every nations income and producability and will evidently lead to war.”
That’s precisely my point, the world will have a choice, either sort out the terrible suffering of the Palestinians, or everybody has to be in a same boat and suffer. I guarantee you, the conflict would be solved in no time.
I am a peaceful guy, but I know crisis what will force those lazy politicians to act with serious intentions.
RobbyG
I understand, I'm peaceful too. But I meant the use of military power determines the outcome. And thats is my underlying point. War with the Middle East would lead to a strategical Iraq like 'shock of awe' strategy.
Offcourse the aftermath will be difficult (individual terrorist responses to Europe and US etc), but the strategic allies of the Middle East don't have the military power of the West. That is not a level playing field situation.
I don't think the Middle East will win that kind of battle. Iran will be center stage in this war if it ever happens and be defeated without help of Russia.
When Russia starts joining this game. Its WWIII and that is a tad difficult to analyse.... :scratch:
Humbleman
- RobbyG wrote:
I understand, I'm peaceful too. But I meant the use of military power determines the outcome. And thats is my underlying point. War with the Middle East would lead to a strategical Iraq like 'shock of awe' strategy.
Offcourse the aftermath will be difficult (individual terrorist responses to Europe and US etc), but the strategic allies of the Middle East don't have the military power of the West. That is not a level playing field situation.
I don't think the Middle East will win that kind of battle. Iran will be center stage in this war if it ever happens and be defeated without help of Russia.
When Russia starts joining this game. Its WWIII and that is a tad difficult to analyse.... :scratch:
I hear what you’re saying
We all know that the West’s militaries are more powerful. But would the West be that reckless to risk the safety of its own people and it the planet they are living on.
Here is an example for you, with all the entire West’s powerful weapons, money and technology, they have miserably failed to crush a weak arm groups like Taliban in Afghanistan. They’ve spent billions, and lost so many lives in there, but yet they just couldn’t do it, now some of the participant countries are already complaining, and asking how long do they have to stay in there for.
I am not supporting Taliban in any means, I don’t like what they did to their own people when they were in government. I am just making the point that determination and bravery often triumph at the end, no matter how powerful the opponent is.
So wars are not the solution, peace and justice are what we need for peaceful existence and prosper to all human kinds. Believe me, there is nothing more powerful than love and peace, but to achieve these two, peace and justice must be prevalent amongst societies.
RobbyG
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
- RobbyG wrote:
- TheChoosen wrote:
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
We need to form combined military command, economic block, political unity while maintaining individual countries' sovereignity (like semi-autonomous countries administering own territory but combining for foreign affairs, military issues, external politics, trade, investment, research activities ) among like minded truth, justice and peace loving countries.
That can easily root out the filthy tumour that is Zionism , with ease Inshallah.
This reminds me of the former USSR and a man calld Adolf H. (Austrian, not German)
MB, you are born in the wrong century :shock:
No he's in the right one allright. On the other side though.
If he doesn't watch his back, he's being slaugthered by a CIA missile soon.
We'll just talk some more about this nutcase and his extremist and maybe terrorists motives and possible actions, so that the CIA (who's listen in right now :wink: ) can send that rocket on its way.
MB, be prepared. You azz is about to get burned... bugger... we don't use napalm anymore :? . We'll figure it out Bubba.
:lol:
What a moron!
Typical of a nation whose national custom is paedophilia, incest, animal intercourse, pornography, prostitution, homosexuality, alcoholism, drug abuses and the result is a moron who can't even stitch together a single coherent sentence.
Your response shows again how delusional you are and that you are unable to sense the humor of any reply.
I'm talking to a
real moron here I guess. :P
:withstupid:
muslimbangladeshi
- RobbyG wrote:
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
- RobbyG wrote:
- TheChoosen wrote:
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
We need to form combined military command, economic block, political unity while maintaining individual countries' sovereignity (like semi-autonomous countries administering own territory but combining for foreign affairs, military issues, external politics, trade, investment, research activities ) among like minded truth, justice and peace loving countries.
That can easily root out the filthy tumour that is Zionism , with ease Inshallah.
This reminds me of the former USSR and a man calld Adolf H. (Austrian, not German)
MB, you are born in the wrong century :shock:
No he's in the right one allright. On the other side though.
If he doesn't watch his back, he's being slaugthered by a CIA missile soon.
We'll just talk some more about this nutcase and his extremist and maybe terrorists motives and possible actions, so that the CIA (who's listen in right now :wink: ) can send that rocket on its way.
MB, be prepared. You azz is about to get burned... bugger... we don't use napalm anymore :? . We'll figure it out Bubba.
:lol:
What a moron!
Typical of a nation whose national custom is paedophilia, incest, animal intercourse, pornography, prostitution, homosexuality, alcoholism, drug abuses and the result is a moron who can't even stitch together a single coherent sentence.
Your response shows again how delusional I am and that you are unable to sense the humor of any of my stupid replies.
I'm a real moron here I guess. :P
:withstupid:
FIXED
RobbyG
- Humbleman wrote:
I am not supporting Taliban in any means, I don’t like what they did to their own people when they were in government. I am just making the point that determination and bravery often triumph at the end, no matter how powerful the opponent is.
Don't get me wrong on this one. I fully understand your non-aggressive nature. Makes two of us. No apologies necessary for that in my view.
But, what do you think that Europe's people had to deal with 65 years ago during WWI&II? If you have any knowledge of that you know that Europe was in rubble. My country was bombed to ashes. Nothing left. We had floodings in 1953, the Western part of Holland lost everything again a mere 8 years after the start of rebuilding our country from scratch.
Speaking for my people know, we endured the Spanish invasion in 1573/4 and in Alkmaar we turned the Spanish war tide to its first Victorie!
To show you the hardened and scarred core of my people and the Germans, UK etc. etc. aswell as many others across Europe and the World. You forget that what happens in the Middle East is just recent. We seen all horror before and it makes you reason very VERY good, before you act. Diplomacy rules nowadays.
But... when Europe acts... trust me, when the rules are obliterated by a new WWIII power, and our true freedom is at risk, that new enemy meets with the core of Europes people. Tough to the very last bone.
Those wars in the Middle East look like coffee and daily cake when compared how my grandad had to search the streets for food between German and English/Canadian bombardments between eachother on our soil. Just to give you a smell of my core when the crap really touches on our fan.
All this suffering is one of the reasons my country nowadays gives the highest expenditure of any world country to humanitarian aid and development work... We've been there many times before. And we care about your freedom. Its the basic thing in life.
Determination and bravery. Hmm, familiar words... :banghead:
muslimbangladeshi
- Humbleman wrote:
I am not supporting Taliban in any means, I don’t like what they did to their own people when they were in government. I am just making the point that determination and bravery often triumph at the end, no matter how powerful the opponent is.
UAE, KSA and Pakistan recognized the Taliban ruled Afghanistan.
Quote:
- So wars are not the solution, peace and justice are what we need for peaceful existence and prosper to all human kinds. Believe me, there is nothing more powerful than love and peace, but to achieve these two, peace and justice must be prevalent amongst societies.
You need strong military to be able to ensure peace, begging filthy hypocrite homosexual incestuous paedophile amorous immoral Westerners for mercy won't sway their opinions.
muslimbangladeshi
- RobbyG wrote:
my country nowadays gives the highest expenditure of any world country to humanitarian aid and development work... [/size]
:lol: Stupid dutch paedophile animal lover.
Did they teach you these bogus facts at school? Show me a single source supporting this claim.
Saudi Arabia helped Bangladesh the MOST of any country in the world, our Saudi brothers donated more than 1 billion dirhams to Bangladesh after cyclone Sidr.
What did the west do? Empty promises!
Netherlands? It's so tiny and insignificant in world that forget about being largest donor, it's not even the top 10 donors of the world.
Saudi recently pledged 3.3 billion dirhams for Gazza.
What did the West including Netherlands do?
Go about their regular jolly gay ways making love to animals children and homosexuals while beingdrunk and abusing drugs and having incestuous relationships.
gafoorgk
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
Saudi recently pledged 3.3 billion dirhams for Gazza.
What did the West including Netherlands do?
WHY did they give billions to Gaaza?
oh yeah.......... to rebuild Gaaza.
but what if Israel with the help of those greatly worshiped by arabs come again and destroy what Gaazans built ?!
no problem, Saudi has enough money to give them forever. what they forget are need for unity, need for offense when really required [it doesn't necessarily mean firepower], what Badr war taught us, etc.,
RobbyG
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
- RobbyG wrote:
my country nowadays gives the highest expenditure of any world country to humanitarian aid and development work... [/size]
Ok, small correction on my part: one of the highest expenditure in percentage of GDP of any world country fits us better.
Did they teach you these bogus facts at school? Show me a single source supporting this claim.
Here's your proof: Netherlands #4 in the world. ,8599,1689081,00.html
Saudi Arabia helped Bangladesh the MOST of any country in the world, our Saudi brothers donated more than 1 billion dirhams to Bangladesh after cyclone Sidr.
I'll take that from you. But my country spends 4 billion euro's in Aid since 2005 on a consistent yearly basis (spread across the world).
What did the west do? Empty promises!
Netherlands? It's so tiny and insignificant in world that forget about being largest donor, it's not even the top 10 donors of the world.
Again, get your facts right: Netherlands #4 in the world. ,8599,1689081,00.html
Saudi recently pledged 3.3 billion dirhams for Gazza.
What did the West including Netherlands do?
My country has yearly expenditures of humanitarian aid for the Red Cross, ALSO operating in Gaza strip.
Go about their regular jolly gay ways making love to animals children and homosexuals while beingdrunk and abusing drugs and having incestuous relationships.
blabla blablabla....BLA
ps: beaten again in words. How peaceful :lol:
Again: Netherlands #4 in the world for humanitarian aid: ,8599,1689081,00.html
(counter) Arguments highlighted in black. :angel9:
muslimbangladeshi
- gafoorgk wrote:
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
Saudi recently pledged 3.3 billion dirhams for Gazza.
What did the West including Netherlands do?
WHY did they give billions to Gaaza?
oh yeah.......... to rebuild Gaaza.
but what if Israel with the help of those greatly worshiped by arabs come again and destroy what Gaazans built ?!
no problem, Saudi has enough money to give them forever. what they forget are need for unity, need for offense when really required [it doesn't necessarily mean firepower], what Badr war taught us, etc.,
I have been saying the whole Ummah needs unity.
The dutch moron claimed the homosexual paedophile incestuous lewd lascivious inbred animal loving lascivious drunkard Dutch are the biggest donors in the world.
A heap of dutch feculent material.
muslimbangladeshi
- RobbyG wrote:
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
- RobbyG wrote:
my country nowadays gives the highest expenditure of any world country to humanitarian aid and development work... [/size]
Ok, small correction on my part: one of the highest expenditure in percentage of GDP of any world country fits us better.
Did they teach you these bogus facts at school? Show me a single source supporting this claim.
Here's your proof: Netherlands #4 in the world. ,8599,1689081,00.html
Saudi Arabia helped Bangladesh the MOST of any country in the world, our Saudi brothers donated more than 1 billion dirhams to Bangladesh after cyclone Sidr.
I'll take that from you. But my country spends 4 billion euro's in Aid since 2005 on a consistent yearly basis (spread across the world).
What did the west do? Empty promises!
Netherlands? It's so tiny and insignificant in world that forget about being largest donor, it's not even the top 10 donors of the world.
Again, get your facts right: Netherlands #4 in the world. ,8599,1689081,00.html
Saudi recently pledged 3.3 billion dirhams for Gazza.
What did the West including Netherlands do?
My country has yearly expenditures of humanitarian aid for the Red Cross, ALSO operating in Gaza strip.
Go about their regular jolly gay ways making love to animals children and homosexuals while beingdrunk and abusing drugs and having incestuous relationships.
blabla blablabla....BLA
ps: beaten again in words. How peaceful :lol:
Again: Netherlands #4 in the world for humanitarian aid: ,8599,1689081,00.html
(counter) Arguments highlighted in black. :angel9:
What a moron!
It ranks only Western countries (mostly)!
We are talking of the whole world. Saudis, UAE, Kuwait often doesn't even publicize what they donate while the immoral homosexual paedophile incestuous drunkard westerners publicize more than they donate.
RobbyG
Hahaha, get real Turd.
You don't know what your saying.
Now, going further on your footwork of evidence. Show me proof of Arab Humanitarian Aid expenditures on a consistent basis!?
I gave your proof of several issues and showed you how much The Netherlands contributes to world aid. No #4 positions of the richest nations in the world. 1.5 percent of total GDP as I recall.
Not even a thank you for my countries aid to Bangladesh??? Let alone for my proof shown to you?
Conclusion about Muslimbangladeshi:
Simply proves he can't come to agreement. No simple discussion looks possible with Mr. Bangladeshi. He can't even acknowledge the proven truth.
End of discussion. Your too stupid to reconcile.
muslimbangladeshi
What a moron, quoting a time magazine article that ranks only WESTERN countries almost exclusively to think Netherlands is ranked 4th in world!
:lol:
You are not expected to be intelligent either; I have not heard of intelligent progenies of incestuous beastility loving paedophile homosexuals who are drunk and abuse drugs.
gLoBalTeCh
- Dubai Rose wrote:
Post subject: Boycott Israeli Goods
Didn't see any Israeli goods in Dubai!!!!!???
Where are they???
...
here you will get all those products and tell me if you dont see here in UAE.
The Chevrolet car you dont see here ? its also Israeli product
Dubai Knight
- gLoBalTeCh wrote:
The Chevrolet car you dont see here ? its also Israeli product
Really? I didn't know Australia was now called Israel?
Most Chevrolet saloons in the UAE are manufactured in Australia. The 4x4's come direct from the US.
Besides, Israeli cars would be subject to a large degree of 'Front Wheel Skid'!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Knight
gLoBalTeCh
- Dubai Knight wrote:
- gLoBalTeCh wrote:
The Chevrolet car you dont see here ? its also Israeli product
Really? I didn't know Australia was now called Israel?
Most Chevrolet saloons in the UAE are manufactured in Australia. The 4x4's come direct from the US.
Besides, Israeli cars would be subject to a large degree of 'Front Wheel Skid'!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Knight
what you will say about " Nokia" , Carrefour ?
did u visit that site ? click on each brand and see the details
Dubai Knight
- gLoBalTeCh wrote:
- Dubai Knight wrote:
- gLoBalTeCh wrote:
The Chevrolet car you dont see here ? its also Israeli product
Really? I didn't know Australia was now called Israel?
Most Chevrolet saloons in the UAE are manufactured in Australia. The 4x4's come direct from the US.
Besides, Israeli cars would be subject to a large degree of 'Front Wheel Skid'!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Knight
what you will say about " Nokia" , Carrefour ?
did u visit that site ? click on each brand and see the details
Well Carrefour is a French brand, but as they stock over 200,000 different line items, its perfectly possible one or two of those are of Israeli origin. If you find out which they are, then boycott those. Danish products were boycotted and taken off the shelves during the Islamic cartoon crisis, it didn't mean the whole of Spinneys was boycotted.
Nokia is a Finnish company and the majority of their assembly is handled in Vietnam and China, it could be that certain components are produced in Israel, but then how ridiculous does it have to get?
Oh, my house has a screw in the wall that might have possibly been made or seen in Israel...I must demolish the whole building immediately!
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Knight
RobbyG
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
As you see Humbleman brother, even Arab countries' own resources have to be sold according to Western rules, if we believe the dutch moron.
This is wrong, what's wrong with the arab and muslim ummah. We must unite, pump resources into building common military, foreign policy, domestic economy, Free Trade Agreements, investments, universities (world class - like Saudi Arabia is doing with King Abdullah Uni of Sci & Tech) , research and development.
Islamic jumhuriyat of Iran is our most advanced country in this regard I'll say that. Also remember Pakistan is a nuclear weapons power. Just imagine what we can become if we unite.
1.6 billion Muslims
57 countries + more are invited
Largest land area in the world (larger than Russia)
All the resources in the world (oil, gas, mineral resources, agricultural resources)
Over 4 million active soldiers at the moment
And so on
Such a united Ummah no country on Earth today will dare to confront. Everybody will try to appease this Ummah.
Unlike others, I dont ask you to 'trust me'' after a claim I make; I ask you to use your own logic, and look at this above scenario of a combined Muslim Ummah military bloc with common political, foreign affairs, economic educational social justice system.
Who would dare confront this?
I would confront this. Its easy moron.
Your unity will only lead to some hard workers doing the job for richest of your proposed united nation. Others slumbags like you only F. this up once their is some form of unity. Its just like a sandsculpture...
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Screwing things up what others have build. The only working pump you use in your country, you Monkeyboy.
naruto
- rudeboy wrote:
- naruto wrote:
i was looking for some1 who said ..nevermind ..anyway i agree with my brothers ...we should do something to help our brothers and sisters
lol if you really want to do something pull the plug on the oil supply see how they come begging to u ;) but i guess that wont happen and we all know why ;).
lol.. like im the who control the oil.. im a normal person ..who can do simple things like boycotting US products..
Humbleman
- naruto wrote:
- rudeboy wrote:
- naruto wrote:
i was looking for some1 who said ..nevermind ..anyway i agree with my brothers ...we should do something to help our brothers and sisters
lol if you really want to do something pull the plug on the oil supply see how they come begging to u ;) but i guess that wont happen and we all know why ;).
lol.. like im the who control the oil.. im a normal person ..who can do simple things like boycotting US products..
Naruto, good on you man, that’s a simple but yet a positive step in making a stand. Encourage your friends to do the same. Go naruto :idea:
muslimbangladeshi
- gLoBalTeCh wrote:
- Dubai Rose wrote:
Post subject: Boycott Israeli Goods
Didn't see any Israeli goods in Dubai!!!!!???
Where are they???
...
here you will get all those products and tell me if you dont see here in UAE.
The Chevrolet car you dont see here ? its also Israeli product
Who makes these ridiculous lists brother?
The Zionists don't even have an economy worth talking about.
They bring out their begging bowl every time they need money (which is all the time).
Some of the firms listed there alone have much larger revenues than the filthy failed implant of British terrrists into the region that is the Zionist Entity.
muslimbangladeshi
- RobbyG wrote:
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
As you see Humbleman brother, even Arab countries' own resources have to be sold according to Western rules, if we believe the dutch moron.
This is wrong, what's wrong with the arab and muslim ummah. We must unite, pump resources into building common military, foreign policy, domestic economy, Free Trade Agreements, investments, universities (world class - like Saudi Arabia is doing with King Abdullah Uni of Sci & Tech) , research and development.
Islamic jumhuriyat of Iran is our most advanced country in this regard I'll say that. Also remember Pakistan is a nuclear weapons power. Just imagine what we can become if we unite.
1.6 billion Muslims
57 countries + more are invited
Largest land area in the world (larger than Russia)
All the resources in the world (oil, gas, mineral resources, agricultural resources)
Over 4 million active soldiers at the moment
And so on
Such a united Ummah no country on Earth today will dare to confront. Everybody will try to appease this Ummah.
Unlike others, I dont ask you to 'trust me'' after a claim I make; I ask you to use your own logic, and look at this above scenario of a combined Muslim Ummah military bloc with common political, foreign affairs, economic educational social justice system.
Who would dare confront this?
I would confront this. Its easy moron.
Your unity will only lead to some hard workers doing the job for richest of your proposed united nation. Others slumbags like you only F. this up once their is some form of unity. Its just like a sandsculpture...
&feature=related
Screwing things up what others have build. The only working pump you use in your country, you Monkeyboy.
Oh dear what's gone in to the heads of paedophile beastility loving dutch incestuous morons!
They can't leave their love of animals for once.
Quote:
- Dutch Police Take Part In Gay Parade
THE HAGUE, 23/05/06 - Homosexual policemen will take part in a gay parade in June. The Council of Chief Commissioners has given permission for them to wear uniform.
The national police homosexual network (LHP) is to take part in the annual Pink Saturday Parade on 24 June. "Under the theme 'Never be afraid to be different; you're welcome with us', a delegation will participate in the Parade in uniform. This is the first time in history that the Dutch police are taking part," Sigrid Dikken of the Dutch Police Academy said yesterday.
Pink Saturday (known abroad as Gay Pride) began in the past as a demonstration after raids on homosexuals in America, the spokesman explained. "Even today, acquired freedoms still generate conflict. It is therefore a good thing to celebrate acquired freedoms and to be proud of our multifaceted Dutch society."
As the police wish to operate at the centre of society, "it is important for them to give a visible signal that homosexuality exists within the police force and that homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals and transsexuals can rely on the police. Our participation is also a recruitment campaign, because diversity within the police contributes to the best possible police product," reported Dikken.
I used actual source, I used your dutch sources.
You used youtube videos of monkeys.
Enough said.
Chocoholic
That list merely provides info on retailers that stock goods from Delta Galil Industries Ltd or are brands owned by the company.
RobbyG
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
- RobbyG wrote:
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
As you see Humbleman brother, even Arab countries' own resources have to be sold according to Western rules, if we believe the dutch moron.
This is wrong, what's wrong with the arab and muslim ummah. We must unite, pump resources into building common military, foreign policy, domestic economy, Free Trade Agreements, investments, universities (world class - like Saudi Arabia is doing with King Abdullah Uni of Sci & Tech) , research and development.
Islamic jumhuriyat of Iran is our most advanced country in this regard I'll say that. Also remember Pakistan is a nuclear weapons power. Just imagine what we can become if we unite.
1.6 billion Muslims
57 countries + more are invited
Largest land area in the world (larger than Russia)
All the resources in the world (oil, gas, mineral resources, agricultural resources)
Over 4 million active soldiers at the moment
And so on
Such a united Ummah no country on Earth today will dare to confront. Everybody will try to appease this Ummah.
Unlike others, I dont ask you to 'trust me'' after a claim I make; I ask you to use your own logic, and look at this above scenario of a combined Muslim Ummah military bloc with common political, foreign affairs, economic educational social justice system.
Who would dare confront this?
I would confront this. Its easy moron.
Your unity will only lead to some hard workers doing the job for richest of your proposed united nation. Others slumbags like you only F. this up once their is some form of unity. Its just like a sandsculpture...
&feature=related
Screwing things up what others have build. The only working pump you use in your country, you Monkeyboy.
Oh dear what's gone in to the heads of paedophile beastility loving dutch incestuous morons!
They can't leave their love of animals for once.
Quote:
- Dutch Police Take Part In Gay Parade
THE HAGUE, 23/05/06 - Homosexual policemen will take part in a gay parade in June. The Council of Chief Commissioners has given permission for them to wear uniform.
The national police homosexual network (LHP) is to take part in the annual Pink Saturday Parade on 24 June. "Under the theme 'Never be afraid to be different; you're welcome with us', a delegation will participate in the Parade in uniform. This is the first time in history that the Dutch police are taking part," Sigrid Dikken of the Dutch Police Academy said yesterday.
Pink Saturday (known abroad as Gay Pride) began in the past as a demonstration after raids on homosexuals in America, the spokesman explained. "Even today, acquired freedoms still generate conflict. It is therefore a good thing to celebrate acquired freedoms and to be proud of our multifaceted Dutch society."
As the police wish to operate at the centre of society, "it is important for them to give a visible signal that homosexuality exists within the police force and that homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals and transsexuals can rely on the police. Our participation is also a recruitment campaign, because diversity within the police contributes to the best possible police product," reported Dikken.
I used actual source, I used your dutch sources.
You used youtube videos of monkeys.
Enough said.
I can't heaar youuuu!
As you now, discussions with you are moronic, so I don't even bother anymore. Point is, your just a unity focker with monkey characteristics.
And thats worth laughing about. Just laughing. Enough said indeed.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
muslimbangladeshi
Proof, logic, evidence trumps paedophile incestuous homosexual drunkards' rants.
RobbyG
Uhhhhh uh uh uh uh..... att att att att... &feature=related
Crappy martian.
Joke with MB:
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And simply more fun: Rent-a-lion... ROTFLMAO.
&NR=1
Let those muscles work people. Laugh!!!
muslimbangladeshi
I take it you are a moron who has an eerie love for animals we humans can't comprehend
On topic: boycott zionist products.
For ever!
Dubai Knight
- muslimbangladeshi wrote:
I take it you are a moron who has an eerie love for animals we humans can't comprehend
On topic: boycott zionist products.
For ever!
Boycott Mumblingbangabumboy posts!
For ever!
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Knight
RobbyG
You mean new topics posts, or all contributions??
I liked to slap him with vid's...make him jiggle a bit on his crapheap.
Well, ok I ignore the fooker from now on. Ya got my word for it...
naruto
- rudeboy wrote:
- naruto wrote:
i was looking for some1 who said ..nevermind ..anyway i agree with my brothers ...we should do something to help our brothers and sisters
lol if you really want to do something pull the plug on the oil supply see how they come begging to u ;) but i guess that wont happen and we all know why ;).
lol.. yea im doing something..as for the oil im not the ruler here ..lol
muslimbangladeshi
You need to boycott USA and ensure its economy crashes, that's right crashes not merely declines but crashes!
This will ensure the Zionists' only benefactor, only source of aid, is no more existent.
Zionists themselves have no economy to talk of. It's mostly based on asking for aid from Westerners mainly the leader of the West, USA.
michaeldubai
I've seen a lot of these boycott this and boycott that mails.
Honestly do not see any sense in this.
If you boycott any product I can only say that you will be the loser. If you buy something right now - its probably because you like it and value it more than other similar brands. If you boycott, means you are ready to replace it with a lower quality product - applies to you, your kids. IS that really what you want?
And why would you boycott only supermarket products? why not boycott life saving medicines too? Or is this an exception?
Chocoholic
Because they're only willing to give up what they can do without.What they can't do without is cars, computers, electrical appliances etc etc
naruto
welcome to japan :lol:
Humbleman
Not all medicines or cars come from the State, you know. Western countries are diverse in term of cultures, languages and how they think. The Canadian don’t think as the Americans do for certain, or the English and the French - they often don’t get along, I know that from first-hand experience. So lets not forget that the West isn't one country, it’s rather a large continent divided to different countries.
Every human with humane conscience would boycott those murders’ goods in any way he/she can. So if you don’t have that conscience, then please stop telling us what we need to do.
I’d forgive someone who lives in the West if they’d be indifferent or ignorant to what’s happening to the Palestinian people, but for someone who lives in the UAE which would gets good exposure to the truth of the conflict, but yet still indifferent to the Palestinians’ suffering, I’d think he/she is either pro-Zionist or hate the Arabs and Muslims and therefore okay with Israel’s crime against helpless, powerless and starving Palestinians people.
In this forum so far, I hardly have come across a Westerner who rationally criticize Israel’s occupation of Palestine’s territory, Syrian’s territory etc. Or the massacre of over 1300 people half of them children and women just over 21 days, or the refugees whom kicked out by those murders from their own country and replaced by settlers, and thereafter denied their right of return. The only mistake that the Palestinians have done has been fighting and asking for their rights and lands back.
My questions to you are this:
What is it that stopping you from speaking against the oppressors?
What is it that has been keeping you silent? Please tell me I am very confused.
Aren’t those murders are the one who occupying the Palestinians lands? Put yourself into those Palestinians shoes for a second., wouldn't you fight to get your freedom, dignity, lands, and rights back?
I remember an English MP from England’s parliament wanted to understand why Palestinians commit a suicide , so she went for a visit to Palestine, and when she came back to England she asked about her reaction, she unwittingly said “I’d do the same thing if I were living in the way the Palestinians lives”. Her innocent outburst put her into trouble and got dismissed from the Parliament.
So for those Arabs, Muslims and those people with fair and awaken conscience, my questions to you are:
What is your answer to the Palestinians’ suffering?
What’s your answer to those children and women whom huddled together in the hope to avoid those murders’ hi-tech weapons, just to be killed later by them?
My friends, the least we can do to those voiceless people is to boycott those Israel’s products and their companies in the US that export their goods.
Lets’ start with those poisonous fast/junk foods, Pizza Hutt, KFC, MacDonald, Burger King, Wendy’s, Coke Cola and its sub-drinks. Don’t think for a moment that these establishments owned by local, no my friend, they are franchised. This means the margin profit goes to fund those murders’ activities.
For more conclusive list please visit,
:)
michaeldubai
- Humbleman wrote:
I’d forgive someone who lives in the West if they’d be indifferent or ignorant to what’s happening to the Palestinian people, but for someone who lives in the UAE which would gets good exposure to the truth of the conflict, but yet still indifferent to the Palestinians’ suffering, I’d think he/she is either pro-Zionist or hate the Arabs and Muslims and therefore okay with Israel’s crime against helpless, powerless and starving Palestinians people.
My questions to you are this:
What is it that stopping you from speaking against the oppressors? What is it that has been keeping you silent? Please tell me I am very confused.
For more conclusive list please visit,
:)
Yeah buddy, UAE is ~ 2000km away, so I dont know you are able to get "good exposure to the truth of the conflict". Most News agencies (intl & local) are all biased so I wouldnt go by them either.
Whatever it is, I would be sympathetic to victims on both sides of the conflict. A human being is after all a human being, a child - a child.
If you make a statement about boycotting be consistent. There are some which patented in the US and would not be able to get anywhere else.
I would like to see you boycott things like important life saving drugs from the US - trust me you wouldnt.
If you are really confused over nothing, you seem to have some serious issues you need to get resolved first. :-)
Humbleman
- michaeldubai wrote:
- Humbleman wrote:
I’d forgive someone who lives in the West if they’d be indifferent or ignorant to what’s happening to the Palestinian people, but for someone who lives in the UAE which would gets good exposure to the truth of the conflict, but yet still indifferent to the Palestinians’ suffering, I’d think he/she is either pro-Zionist or hate the Arabs and Muslims and therefore okay with Israel’s crime against helpless, powerless and starving Palestinians people.
My questions to you are this:
What is it that stopping you from speaking against the oppressors? What is it that has been keeping you silent? Please tell me I am very confused.
For more conclusive list please visit,
:)
Yeah buddy, UAE is ~ 2000km away, so I dont know you are able to get "good exposure to the truth of the conflict". Most News agencies (intl & local) are all biased so I wouldnt go by them either.
Whatever it is, I would be sympathetic to victims on both sides of the conflict. A human being is after all a human being, a child - a child.
If you make a statement about boycotting be consistent. There are some which patented in the US and would not be able to get anywhere else.
I would like to see you boycott things like important life saving drugs from the US - trust me you wouldnt.
If you are really confused over nothing, you seem to have some serious issues you need to get resolved first. :-)
Nope, I have no issues at all, am a guy who loves peace and appreciate all human kinds regardless. However, I’m extremely intolerant to discrimination and injustice, and yes, I will never hesitate for a second to help the helpless or defend the powerless.
My friend, if I was in Dubai and saw someone beats the heck out of you for no reason, you bet I’ll be there in your side – that’s who I am.
Because I fully knew the history and the underline issues of the conflict I therefore support what’s right and fair. Israel must get out of Palestine lands and stays within its borders that sat by the UN if it wants the Palestine to stop resisting. Or embrace the Arab Peace Initiative, or the UN Peace Initiative, or the French Peace Initiative – to your knowledge Israel has brushed all of them aside.
I don’t hate the real Jewish people who want peace. I only hate injustice and the violation of human right which Israel has been doing for so many years against the Palestine on daily basis.
If you really want to know the truth to the conflict, then there are nobles writers from the West and from all over the world who wrote impartial books about the conflict, it won’t cost you much if pay a visit when you are free to a bookshop and have a read.
Aljazeera English TV and website are probably the best of the herd.
Their website
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:)
Nessie971
By the way Humble, what kind of computer are you using? What kind of processor? Do you like movies? Ever used Google lately? What about your clothing? What about this language you're speaking? It is English indeed, but the Americans made it the language of reference in business... Good luck boycotting the US...
Also you're not even allowed to enter the UAE with a Israeli stamp on your passport.... How are Israeli products supposed to get here?
PS Robbi, you are saying that the Israeli always mention the Holocaust every time there is a threat... The reverse is true, see how you end your post by threatening them to end up in the same situation they were... Also people routinely call them nazis...
Israel response was cruel, disproportionate and discussing; Many people demonstrated in "Western" countries to show their support of the Palestinians... Traditionally, the "west wing" european countries are more inclined to support Palestine.
Humble, things are not as simple as the Israeli saying "holocaust" and all the Western nations just turning away... Alliances do matter, and it is not about Palestine only, but the countries supporting Palestine at large... Here comes Iran and Syria...
The ME affairs are complicated and tragic... It is like watching a bunch of angry children who would have been given weapons... I don't see how peace will ever come in this region... Hate calls for more hate, blood is met with blood, the children are dying miserable...
I would also like to point out the dire conditions in which most populations live, and the total despair that is their reality. In these countries, few men live like Kings next to men reduced to the fate of dogs. I think this should be mentioned as well... What opportunities do these people have? Can you truly hope to shape a different future for yourself? I think education/wellfare would be a good start to end this tragedy. War is a bearable alternative when the other options are bleak.
Muslimbangladeshi, if you can do without westerners, good luck to you...
I am actually surprised you can stand living in Dubai with so many of these westerners - and being on an english-speaking forum as well... Might want to nuke them too? Seems hard to have a combined Islamic army when different branches of Islam are fighting each other. What about Bangladesh and the series of coups between 1971 and 1996 > still talking unity here?
As long as we don't get out of this simplistic "let's kill them all" approach, there won't be any resolution to this problem...
gafoorgk
wow! that's a real good one Nessie
Dubai Knight
Good post Nessie!
The analogy of 'angry kids with weapons' is so true. The problem is also one of 'vendetta'. Memories run deep in the region and a feud of this scale creates a viscious sycle of hatred.
The Irish problem in the UK was only recently resolved, however there were issues and bad blood brought to the surface that dated back to the times of Elizabeth I. I mean this was 800 years ago!
There is no easy solution to this problem and it is not something that the UN can step in and sort out. They would just put those innocent personnel in a pointless position of being targets for both sides.
It has to be resolved through diplomatic negotiations. But who will be the one to take the baton is yet to be decided.
:( :( :(
Knight
Humbleman
Good post Nessie971
First of all let me answer the first part of your post.
My computer is an Acer brand which is made in Taiwan.
Acer is the third largest computer manufacturer in the world by sales, and its product line-up includes desktops and laptops, as well as personal digital assistants, servers and storage, displays, peripherals, and e-business services for business, government, education, and home users. Not to mention, IBM is Chinese owned now so there you have it.
Word Process
I bought the latest replica of Microsoft Office from Hong Kong for only HK$50 – it’s absolutely the same as the original one. Do I feel guilty, no - the original one is unreasonably expensive.
My clothes:
They are good quality and they all made in China, in fact the majority of the population in Australia and New Zealand are wearing clothes that made in China, they are affordable and good to wear.
The English language:
Well we all know that the English language is the language of English people – so respect to the Britz.
I’d appreciate it if someone could educate me on how the English language has became the spoken language of the American people.
Look, am not saying we should boycott all American companies, not at all. There are so many descent Americans whom no doubt would stand up against the oppressor and support what’s right and fair. I’m only saying we need to boycott the Israeli’s goods to make a stand against those murderers. Yes, some of them are manufactured in the State. However, the ordinary people world wide are more sophisticated than ever to pin down who owned a certain company, thus, people more than ever can be more specific in their boycott.
I think you are absolutely right when you said it comes down to alliance. The US has been using Israel as a radar to keep watching over its interests in the Middle East, and Israel on the other hand has been using the US’s weapon and money to establish itself at the expense of the Palestinians people.
Here is some fact about how Hamas came about.
According to the United Nations, the poverty rate, defined as those living off less than $1.60 a day, climbed to 64 percent in the Occupied Territories in 2005. Impoverishment of the Palestinians has produced new populations that need assistance just to sustain life. These new groups currently include landowners, shopkeepers, and those whose homes have been demolished by Israeli bulldozers.
As Israel destroyed the infrastructure of existence in the territories, it also engendered an institutional vacuum by targeting the Palestinian Authority. Hamas took advantage of these dire developments and used them as an opportunity to promote its own agenda.
People who voted for Hamas emphasize not only the heroic acts of its combatants, but also its reputation for clean conduct, modesty, and honesty, which have been pointedly contrasted with the corruption of the Palestinian Authority. Many of its followers do not subscribe to religious fundamentalism, but rather support the organization due to its pragmatic approach characterized by support for the short-term objective of a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem, while still maintaining the long-term goal of establishing a Palestinian state and a solution to the Palestinian refugee problem
Most importantly, perhaps, Hamas acquired much of its political credit from its charity and social service networks. It built kindergartens and schools (that offer free meals for children), education centers for women, and youth and sports clubs. Its medical clinics provide subsidized treatment to the sick and the organization extends financial and technical assistance to those whose homes had been demolished as well as to refugees living in sub-standard conditions.
In other words, Hamas was elected not only because it is considered an alternative to the corrupt Palestinian Authority, but also because Israel created the conditions that made it an indispensable social movement.
I sometime wondered why Hitler targeted the Jewish people in particular, what ignited him against the Jewish people at first. I’m just curious, wish I could know.
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gafoorgk
thanks humbleman for the info on hamas
michaeldubai
The Jews were hated by the germans because of their success in society, job, soical life, etc. Just like how now there is a resistance in most countries against expats who come and do well in their countries - while the natives suffer. Hitler, from a poor background, hated that.
Basically the Nazis hated anyone who they felt were against their regime. So although jews were a majority there were other minorities as well. Hitler also felt the true blooded Germans were a superior race compared to other humans. That said, any community's success in society does not warrant the kind the treatment that was handed out to the Jews. Lets just say that the incidents, pictures of which you see forwarded through emails and wenbsites and newspapers nowadays is nothing compared to the atrocities committed against the Jews in history.
Chocoholic
The English language arrived in America, because the Pilgrim Fathers/Mothers or Puritans, who were made to feel unwelcome in England set sail on the Mayflower from Plymouth, Devon in 1620 for the New World.
Nessie971
Just a detail.. Humble, when you see Made in China on clothing, it doesn't mean that the company is Chinese... Banana Republic has Made in China labels for example...
You also wrote that IBM is Chinese owned... What are you referring to?
IBM ownership is 60% institutional, the top 10 owners owning 22%. Among them, State Street Global, Barclays, Vanguard, Northern Trust... I'd like to know more about that.
The English is the language of the English people... I was pointing out the fact that Americans made English the universal language of business. It is because Americans were speaking English that the language became so important... My mention of language was orientated toward people on this post - especially one lol - who considers everything Western as evil... Stopping posting in English would seem like a good start ;)...
I totally understand what you're saying about boycotting, a way to do something I guess...
Regarding Hamas, it is interesting to note that the Hizbullah used the same methods, and got its popular support through building and financing schools, reconstruction help, and other social efforts.
The apparent wealth and success of Jews is one explanation. One can also say that Europeans didn't mix with the Jews. They historically were isolated... People had no or little interaction with them and they became scapegoats... Some of Hitler's top followers - Goebbels, for example - had also a hatred of German aristocracy. For political reason, this was dropped, and the Jews became the point of focus.
As of today, there is still no better way to have a nation come together than a shared - irrational - hatred.
Dubai Knight
True Nessie.
Nothing unites a nation like a good war. Read '1984' by George Orwell or 'Starship Troopers' by Robert A Heinlein for examples.
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Knight
Humbleman
Nessie971 wrote, “Everything Western as evil”
Who said that? I’ve been very specific with most of my posts. Again, I find it stupid when people think of the West as one country or one culture.
I have all respect for all cultures, whether it is a Western one or Asian or alien.
Mate, I think Muslim Bangladeshi got into your head, lol.
I used the English language and two other languages to interact with more people and enjoy life, these languages have helped to make decent friends from all over the world, and achieve most of my goals quicker than I would’ve otherwise. People who speak more than one language are certainly more marketable in this global world. I feel sorry for those people who keep to their groups or feel isolated just because of their incompetent ability to learn a local language. Hope you are not one of them hehehehe.
In regard to IBM
China's Lenovo Group has completed its $1.75 billion purchase of IBM's PC division in 2005, creating the world's third-largest PC maker
Link:
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muslimbangladeshi
- Nessie971 wrote:
By the way Humble, what kind of computer are you using? What kind of processor? Do you like movies? Ever used Google lately? What about your clothing? What about this language you're speaking? It is English indeed, but the Americans made it the language of reference in business... Good luck boycotting the US...
Also you're not even allowed to enter the UAE with a Israeli stamp on your passport.... How are Israeli products supposed to get here?
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English language made by Americans?
Sorry it's just way too funny to ignore although it wasn't directed at me.
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- Muslimbangladeshi, if you can do without westerners, good luck to you...I am actually surprised you can stand living in Dubai with so many of these westerners - and being on an english-speaking forum as well... Might want to nuke them too? Seems hard to have a combined Islamic army when different branches of Islam are fighting each other. What about Bangladesh and the series of coups between 1971 and 1996 > still talking unity here?
You'd be more surprised to know I am NOT in Dubai as many a moderator has ascertained earlier (most of them Western).
Different 'branches' of Islam aren't fighting each other except due to western (nonmuslim) devious schemes and deceptive propaganda.
1971-1976 is far beyond us, as it's 2009 in the CE now. So no thanks for your trying-to-be-a-smart-aleck like comment, since you don't know any thing on the reality of Bangladesh. The vast majority of Bangladeshi Muslims will gladly accept greater cooperation and union with our brotherly countries in general.
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- As long as we don't get out of this simplistic "let's kill them all" approach, there won't be any resolution to this problem...
As long as Palestinians, Arabs and other Muslims are split into separate units, fractured, disunited, there will be no peace. Only way to ensure peace is to have enough 'firepower' at your disposal to deter the enemy.
The enemy that has killed, maimed, wounded and hurt millions upon millions of innocents- not to mention the huge list of crimes that they have committed - has to be confronted and defeated.
This is a priority for the Ummah to unite so the enemy is put in its place.
kanelli
ha ha! So muslimbangladeshi continues to speak for fellow Muslim Bangladeshis. I bet they would be thrilled to be associated with an escaped mental patient. :lol:
Would you stop posting and leave the forum already. You are wasting everyone's time with your rubbish anti-West hatred. Take a hike!
muslimbangladeshi
Don't spoil this thread immoral lewd Westerner. Leave all your rubbish remarks in 'fight club' thread.
kanelli
You've spoiled the thread already. LEAVE the forum.
muslimbangladeshi
- Humbleman wrote:
In regard to IBM
China's Lenovo Group has completed its $1.75 billion purchase of IBM's PC division in 2005, creating the world's third-largest PC maker
Link:
%20Cooperation%20&%20Trade/t173679.htm
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Akhi
This is another example of how far China, Japan and Korea has progressed especially in economy, industry, science and technology. Japan has been a major powerhouse for decades but Korea and now China is rapidly climbing up the ranks into world's premier powerhouses.
I feel slightly sad that Muslim countries and citizens dont see that the only way to retain a strong voice in global affairs, to have a strong say in global affairs is by having a large 'size'.
All the future prospective 'powerhouses' of the world are enormous in size. No Muslim country has a huge population like China nor area like Russia.
If we unite, we would be larger than Russia in area and greater than China in population.
With growing investments into economy, infrastructure, science and technology along the lines of Islamic finance and Shariah compliant banking, we will Inshallah emerge the strongest of the world's powers. Alas while Islamic banking's popularity is growing in Bangladesh, other Muslim countries and some nonmuslim countries I believe, many a Muslim leader are vehemently working against this cause as they act in the interest of the anglo/ zionist /western groups who only seek further angst amongst our brothers and sisters of the Ummah.
Look at how those Orientals are racing ahead in building automobiles, semi conductor industrial outputs, PCs/notebooks/etc, mobile phones and other electronic items. Malaysia and Indonesia (due to geographical location) amongst Muslim countries also caught that 'fever' and joined the race. That's good.
I hope Muslim countries, the richer ones mostly but also the poorer ones, join hands in building more electronic items, more advanced products and excel and beat the Orientals. We need to learn much from them too. BTW Orientals also have Muslims like the Malaysians, Indonesians, some Chinese, even a few rare Koreans and so on. So it's not entirely mutually exclusive.