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BOYCOTT Danish Products on this list


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A full List of Danish Products & Services Muslims should Boycott Worldwide, as a protest against the Danish Government:

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1 DENMARK II
Voice System
2 BANG & OLUFSEN
High-end Audio and Video Equipment
3 BROEN
Valves & Accessories
4 AUMA
Electronic Actuators
5 J.C HANSESEN'S METALVAREFBRIK
Valves & Accessories
6 AVK SCANWASS
Valves & Fittings
7 NILFISK ADVANCE
Vacuum Cleaners
8 FISKER & NEILSON
Vacuum Cleaners
9 POLYSHEET
Tarpaulin
10 LURPAK
Danish Butter
11 HASSELRIS
Telephone Equipment
12 DENMARK II
Telecommunication Equipment
13 DANCALL RADIO
Mobile/Protable radio phones
14 ASCOM NORDIC
Pay Phones
15 LOGISTRUP
Switch Boards, Motor Control Centres
16 MEARSK
Shipping Line
17 LAURITZEN
Shipping Line
18 GEAR BULK
Shipping Line
19 DZ SECURITY
Laser Engraved Cards
20 ERNITEC
lens
21 SCANFROST
Deep Freezers
22 SKANDILUX
Freezers & Bottle Coolers
23 WESTPOINT
Refridgerators and Freezers
24 YENMADE
Refridgerators and Deep Freezers
25 COOL PANEL
Cold Room, Refridgerators Trucks
26 DERBY
Deep Freezers
27 FRIGOREX
Freezers
28 GRAM
Refridgerators and Freezers
29 GRUNDFOS
Pumps and Pumping Systems
30 DANAGRAF
Cameras and film processors
31 LOGSTRUP
Switch boards, motor control centres
32 TARCO
Pre Insulated Pipe
33 LOGSTOR ROR
Pre Insulated Pipe
34 I.C.MOLLER
Pre Insulated Steel Pipes
35 DEKO
Partition Systems
36 DYRLUND SMITH AS
Office Chairs
37 NIKOMED
Electrodes
38 DAMECA
Anaesthesia Equipment
39 KC DENMARK
Measuring Equipment
40 HASSELRIIS
Telephone Test Equipment
41 DANFOSS
Flow Meters, unltra Sonic, mass, vortex
42 DANOTHERM
Test Equipment
43 SKANTI
Marine Radios
44 DANPORT
Marine/Port Expert consultancy
45 BROEN
Laboratory Fittings
46 FRIGOR
Freezers
47 JAMO
Speakers and speaker systems
48 JACUZZI
Whirlpools and Spas
49 LYSBRO
Garden Tools
50 UHT
Milk
51 FRIENDSHIP
Cheese
52 DANPO
Danish Chicken
53 DAT-SCHAUB
Processed meat, vegitables and Cakes
54 DELIGHT
Frozen meals/vegitables and French Fries
55 BISCA A/S
Biscuits
56 EMBORG
Frozen meat product, butter, cheese and vegitables
57 GW SPRINKLER
Sprikler System
58 BBB EBGG. SERVICES
Fir/Volume Control Dampers, access doors
59 HAVENECON
Fishing Port
60 ENGINE ENGG.
Specilised Gun Mounts
61 FILMTEC
Reverse Osmosis Membranes for desalination
62 PUCK
Cheese/Cream
63 DANO
Milk Powder
64 VEDBYSONDER MASKINFABRIK
Screening Plants
65 HMF
Truck mounted Cranes
66 OXFORD
Buiscits, Cookies
67 ROSE
Butter Cookies
68 ROYAL DANSK
Butter Cookies
69 ROYAL FAVORATES
Butter Cookies
70 STIMOROL
Chewing Gum
71 BLUE DANE
Butter Cookies
72 COPANHAGEN
Butter Cookies
73 RC INTL
Computer Products
74 DANFOSS
Drives, Compressors, Controls
75 STENHOJ
Car lift, Air Compressors
76 ASCOM NORDIC
Pay Phone
77 KLINETT
Cleaning Equipment and Material, High pressure water cleaners
78 NEDERMAN
Fume Extractor
79 DANOGIPS
Plaster Boards, Ceiling tiles & Systems
80 ROCKFON
Mineral fibre ceiling tiles and panels
81 JO JO AS
Extension Cords
82 SUNTOP
Tetrapack Juice
83 BEAR VERIMIXERS
Mixing Machines
84 WITCO/ALMIND
Garage Workshop Equipment
85 NILFISK-GERNI
A/S High Pressure Washer
86 JANY AUTOTEXTILE
seat Covers, Floor mats
87 SYSTEM CHECKER
Cheque writer/Amount Protector
88 KVERNELAND TAARUP A/S
Forage Harvestors, feeding Units
89 TDC
Telecommunications Services
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arniegang I didn't see Danish Pastries on the list :wink: MaaaD and for the party animals here is a list of danish beer you should boytcott :P http://home.datacomm.ch/fiulijn2/Denmark/Alex_danish_beers.htm arniegang Noooooooooooooooooooooooo Maaad Not the Beer :P mAJOR pAIN
i never liked carlsberg anyway !!!! aslong as bud is in then its PAAAAARTY !!!!
yeah i do say these danish guys should pay !!!! boycot their fckn products untill they make that news paper pay !!!! Chocoholic Oh come on! Please get a life! If you did this for everything you didn't agree with in the press, you'd starve to death boycotting all the countries who printed stuff you didn't agree with. That's why it's called 'Free Press!' Plus if we boycotted everything Muslims did or produced because of the rubbish they spread on the tv, you'd be no where either. Oh don't forget then you'd better stop buying records from all the top DJs in the world as they all happen to be Dutch! According to 7Days today: Organisation of the Islamic Conference Secretary General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu said, 'It would ask the UN general assembly to pass a resolution banning attacks on religious beliefs.' OK then, good so that'll stop the hate preachers across Europe also ranting and spouting their evil outside mosques will it? Very dangerous ground, if you're going to ask for this kind of stuff, then you have to be prepared to stick to it yourselves - what a hypocrit! yshimy nahhh Choco, There is always a line in freedom. i can't say i'm free and post a naked photo of a woman here saying she is you, or even draw somthing mocking you and say it is freedom. They crossed the line, they should pay. I'm into the boycott, it really makes difference belive me, i've been working in a multinational company in Egypt when its products was being boycotted because America's support for Israel and this company was nearly closing, but time pass and people forget or just loose stamina. Anyway, i'm in, only problem is with Lurpack butter, it is everywhere, but lets do it Liban BOYCOTT... TO HELL WITH THE DANES.... DOWN DOWN DENMARK.... Oh hey, HP lives in Denmark.... Hmmm, here's another chant: KILL ALL PEOPLE IN DENMARK... :lol: There goes HP.... Bye Bye HP :) Chocoholic Well I'm still going to eat my Danish pastries and listen to Tiesto! But I'll boycott the Chinese because of their fur trade, the Canadians for the seal trade and the Japanese for their whaling! At least boycott something that makes sense. Doing it over a silly cartoon makes no sense to me and like I said if they're going to get arsey about that, then they also have to eat their words and stop their own things against the west and Christianity, what goes around comes around, you can't have double standards. Defo
DJ Tiesto is from Holland 8) :wink:

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Chocoholic Yes he is, that was my point! All the best DJs are Dutch. Defo 8) We just know how to party 8) :P :twisted: mAJOR pAIN yes boycotting danish Gov. makes a lot of sense because they hvae surpass the freedom of speach !!! what they did was publish a drawing of prophet Mohd. with turban and a bomb on top with a lighted fuse ... this is very racial and direct tasteless attack on a race and religion ... and jounalism doesnt teach that !!! specially critical topics like that ... if we let this happen it wouldnt be long how this sick piece of media format would plaque our media system ... imagine CNN doing a anti Islam campaign and AL jazeerah doing an anti - Christian campaign ... it will be total chaos even in broadcasting i mean in phils (in my station)we do a "Howard Stern" format of broadcasting (FM) and trust me slagging is serious we get people calling us assholes and all but its all part of the show ... but even if we are doing this free kick ass hard talking broadcasting we are still bound by rules where we are not supposed to trigger topics of race, religion, third sex, etc basically its common Decency.... this is bad journalism !!! even freedon of speach has limmitation ... like me when i was way out of line when i post your job description choco ... yet thats only your job description ... and you got upset supposed someone ridicule jesus in that way ... would you let it happen ??? cause i wont !!! adn niether would you i know .... those danes are fckin asking for this !!! we are not gonna starve to death ... UAE got lots of local poultry, beef and what ever products they have if not im sure there is alot of other alternative .... they should taste the bitterness of their own rudeness ... you might be thinking im a christian but why does it bother me ??? it bothers me because it bothers my friends ... it bothers me becasue if things like this are encouraged ... i wouldnt be long before a ridicule retaliation will be done with jesus and i dont want that to happen .. becasue if that comes we cant take out the posibility of even friends would become enemy and looking at it in a larger scale it can bring WAR !!! and thast not what we need now .... I SAY BOYCOTT DENMARK !!! DONT GO!! & DONT BUY!!!! untill they publicly apologize and close the newspaper !!! i mean have you read the article???? instead of being apologetic they are sti all high and mighty saying " they are practising freedon of speech, and WE shouldnt take so seriously ...." WELL GUY I SAY WE PRACTISE OUR FREEDOM OF CHOICE AND LETS CHOOSE NOT TO BUY ANYTHING FROM DENMARK !!!! Liban
Sorry, you have no point there. We are talking about boycotting Danes not Dutch products at this time... So who cares about Tiesto and other Dutch DJs since they are not part of the boycott... :) mAJOR pAIN
oh yeah good point i over looked that ... wait
i think its like this Netherlands === dutch
Denmark === danes / danish
but im not really sure .... i stand to be corrected .... fayz I've seen the cartoons; I was actually going to post them in Fight Club but decided against it. I do believe everyone has the freedom to speak, in this case the artist clearly wanted to get a reaction and he did, the newspaper wanted to sell papers and they did, If people wish to ban a consumables from the originating country they will, this is everyone's right. I personally did not appreciate seeing a picture of a Quran with a swastika on it, nor any depiction of any of the prophets whether it be Issa (Jesus) PBUH or Mohamed PBUH This is my right. The only way to fight racism is through education, or alternatively as MAAD likes to say, just having everyone fcking the sh!t out of everyone else and within a couple generations we’ll all be brown :lol: Liban
***thick arabic accent*** You arrrrrre korrrrrrekt... mAJOR pAIN
wait ...
DJ Tiesto
Born: January 17, 1969 in Breda, The Netherlands
Years Active: 90 's, 00's
Biography:
Highly regarded by both DJ Magazine and ultra-loyal fans, DJ Tiësto, due in part to his legendary six-hour, energetic live sets, has been elevated to mythical status as one of the world's foremost trance DJs.
Paul Van Dyk
Born: December 16, 1971 in Eisenhüttenstadt, East Germany
Years Active: 90 's, 00's
Paul Van Dyk Biography:
From early Berlin techno and house through to progressive trance, producer/DJ Paul Van Dyk has soundtracked the German electronic dance scene ever since he moved to the city and began mixing in 1988.
i guess they are clearly not danes !!! thank god i still get to play some of their tracks !!!
i love google !!!! source
LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: yshimy MP, Thanks for the DJ/Clubbing history info :D Back to the topic. MP, Well you don't have to worry about anyone attacking Jesus, because Christians for sure won't, Muslims won't also as we belive in Jesus, and Judists, well, they are too political to do that nowadays. Note: Check Passion of Christ. Anyway MP Still i do disagree with you, apology.... nah, i should boycott them till this country is down or suffer. Because if they did it now, it will not be because they belive what happened is wrong, but just to protect their economy. So, nothing will change. Cheers mates.
easternjewel Right, I agree with yshimy, mAJOR pAIN
& I guess those who are against boycotting Danish products, are those who are not Muslims, therefore they do not understand the seriousness of this issue.
No one can BS as they want to by the name of 'freepress'
& choco, what did you mean by this
easternjewel
THIS MAKES SENCE TO US! Its not a 'silly' cartoon. The whole world knows why we are against West particularly the US govt & its fellow UK, or Israelis... Muslims aren’t against Christianity... Islam does not teach us to criticize anyone's religion. arniegang Well as long as Spinneys keep stocking Danish Bacon i will support the rest :wink: Chocoholic
Ah so we can all still go and buy their 'made in Denmark' CD's then?! Good oh! - DOH!!!!! Anyone see the hypocrisy here?
And as I said before, if you guys are taking this seriouls then go slap a gagging order on the hate preachers, shouting things against Christians and the west, or is it one rule for them and another for everyone else! - Be fair!!! Chocoholic
Just that I find it all really hypocritical, you don't jump up and down and complain about Muslim clerics spounting crap outside mosques or on the TV, showing pictures of hostages etc etc etc. But you whine about a little cartoon, and have you seen the extend of other caracatures against other people of all nationalities and religions? Chip on should, too sensitive, get a life - sorry but talk about over reaction and double standards! easternjewel Boycotting is a peaceful protest, so you may relax... and enjoy your music. unlike the west, all they know is 'we declare war' some people here talk about animal rights, but are sightless towards religion, racism - human rights… hypocrisy, tell me about it Chocoholic
Er MP, Breda is in Holland! The Netherlands is just another name for - you guessed it - Holland!
I was also talking about Armin Van Buerren and guys like that.
EJ, you are right but, the point I'm making is that if these guys insist on pushing this through, then they better be prepared for it to come back and bite them when some of their peeps do something like it - as is constant, but no-one ever does anything about that do they? mAJOR pAIN
why are you so angry ??? im just posting what i know and what ive seen on the net ... sorry ... your really offensive you know that ... have you seen jewel's post ?? and you told me before that i should think before i send my post ???... but i gues you should do it to ... and girl calm down no one is fighting with you ... peace
ok i know it netherlands and they are dutch !!! but i believe we are dicussing DANISH from DENMARK ... like i sadi correct me if im wrong but they are 2 diff countries ... adn they are 2 diff. nationalities
hell they are even both in the world cup right? ... :wink: again im not fighting ... just merely stating facts that i know of ... and basically what me and liban are trying to say is that we believe that tiesto and dutch DJs shouldnt have been mentioned anyway??? because ... ahh.. er... THEY ARE NOT EVEN DANISH they are DUTCH. ah we are talking about DENMARK i believe .. but i may be wrong ... so if i am like i said i stand to be corrected adn i do handle correction quiet OK ... so pls there no need to get BP off the roof ... peace mAJOR pAIN
well said and direct to the point
well some people you dont really have to tell them what they are... you just have to listen to them ... then you know exactly who and what they are ...
and yes i would boycott denmark!! because what they did was totally inhumane and Blasphemous it striking low blow ... well even those terrorist who killed thousands of people didnt even try to do that with Jesus ... never !!! and I feel bad looking at my muslim friends ... because i know that they are deeply hurt with this ... i even find my self saying sorry ... i guess even if denmark apologize the scar would be there ..
so to all my fellow muslim forumer (even those who hate me & Hate me more hahaha)as a christian i feel obligated to apologise upon the doings of my felow christians . im really sorry i think what had been done was shamefull !!! and people who actually acknowledge this and became happy with these attack should be ashamed to because you rejoice using your muslim friends pain .(if you have muslim friends..)...if we only learn to respect other people's belief... the world would be diff. mAJOR pAIN
true apology wont heal this situation ... but we also have to think of the people and children who never intended this to happen ... all i say maybe just the right and just way of doing it ... we should boycott untill The Danish Gov. take a step to protect religion and if the newspaper companies where shut down adn stripped of its license to publish .. i believe that would be a JUST arrangement ... but i do understand how you feel .... mate
now this is totally off the topic but just to clear earlier confusion
but let me get this clear ... DENMARK and NEtherlands are two DIFF countries righ??
and
Danish AND Dutch ARE TWO DIFF nationality RIGHT?? HP
Denmark is Scandinavian country ,in Scandinavian we have sweden ,Norway and Denmark. Denmark is next to Germany . Danish people are known as Danes. London is 80 minutes by air. population is 5.5 million .....i assume
1= Pakistani ...40,000
2= Arabic = 25,000
3= Turkish = 50 ot 60,000
4= Indian = 1000
5= Afghani = 15000
The url of news paper is
http://www.jp.dk/
you can see some text in arabic .....
Sitution is quite tense in Denmark and on their TV they are showing again and again that the people are burning the flag of Denmark .
News :
1= As the list of countries boycotting Arla grows, the dairy is forced to halt operations in Saudi Arabia

2= The EU warns Saudi Arabia not to give its official support to a boycott of Danish goods
(However, supporting Denmark too closely threatens involving the entire union in the Arabic boycott. Moreover, despite the Commission's support for Denmark in principle, many commissioners have expressed their disdain for the newspaper's cartoons, some of which featured Mohammed as a terrorist.)
[color=red]This is HP , Dubaiforums news , Copenhagen ,Denmark [/color] mAJOR pAIN
nice touch !!! heheehe
so hows the islamic community holding on there in Denmark ??? HP
Frankly speaking ...islamic commuity is suffering since the anti immigrant govt took the power. One of the candidate of mayor posted on her web site" muslims shuld be sent to russian jails for 2 kr per day" and one of another person told the radio " the one way to stop terrorism in europe is to kill all muslims in europe". lol
muslims and immigrants are finding it hard to find job,because of descrimination. Especially girls have head scarf have always problem in searching for job.
well i work at company with professional people and they dont discuss ...... :oops: secretdubai Do any of us boycott Saudi products due to the human rights abuses, repression of that country? Do we boycott all Muslim products because of the atrocities carried out by Al Qaeda in the name of Islam? No. So I'm damn well not going to boycott innocent Danish companies whether I agree with the cartoons or not. As it is, I do agree with freedom of speech. I think the Muslim world has every right to express its grievance in its newspapers, but Danish newspapers have every right to publish what they want within their own sovereign laws. I have no sympathy for Saudi Arabia anyway. It is a disgusting, repressive, evil, corrupt regime. Frankly anything they boycott is something I am happy to wholly support. HP
human right abuses happen all over the world in different form, even you ask from a CEO ,he would tell " the amount of pressure he or she is having from the boards of directors or from other concerning ppl".
We are not discussing here human right abuses but publishing of cartoon in news paper. Only those people can show the disrespect toward the religion of others who dont have respect for their own religion. If i respect my own parents ,i wouldnt abuse yours :0)........

all muslims countries condem the people who carried out the attack of 911 and even muslims countries provide airspace and ground space to US. Unlike muslims ,Prime minister of DK refused to condem the action of news paper .

If they talk about freedom of speech ,lets publish the naked picture of Danish queen ........ :wink:

sweetheart ,
Keep your emotions away from discussion forum :0) , i understand that u had some bad time in Saudi Arab but it doesnt mean that you act like a child :0). secretdubai i understand that u had some bad time in Saudi Arab
erm - no, I've never been there. For obvious reasons.
An independent Danish newspaper has the right to publish what it wants about anyone or anything, within Danish law. We may or may not find it abhorrent, but it is their right. Just as it is Saudi's sovereign "right" to stone people to death, prevent half its population from driving, and allow men with sticks to go around beating people in the streets.
I find the reaction to this cartoon completely overblown, and childish. Yes - people are offended. But they need to see it for what it is: one ignorant, rather silly cartoon in a foreign newspaper that they don't even read. It pales into insignificance against the real atrocities that are carried out all over the world every day.
I suggest you acquaint yourself with what many schoolchildren in Saudi are taught about Jewish people. It is far more damaging, untruthful and hurtful than a few silly cartoons. It is the indoctrincation of hatred.
You don't see Christians boycotting American products because the US allowed the Da Vinci code to be published. Some sense of perspective is needed. secretdubai
By the way - I find this really sad and worrying. But my fear is that the reaction to these cartoons is only going to make things harder for muslims in Denmark and elsewhere.
Discrimination and racial hatred are always disgusting. But peaceful, constructive dialogue is the way to tackle them, with appropriate legislation (equal opportunity laws) where necessary. Chocoholic Hey Secret, Well said! That was exactly the point I was trying to make, the whole thing is just silly. And like I said if people are so worried about this kind of thing, then they shouldn't be surprised when others boycott them for the things they do - the whole thing is ridiculous. Our society is way too sensitive. Chocoholic MP & EJ, Apologies as I seem to be having a blonde day and have confused myself. But I still stand by my opinion over the Denmark illustrations, that's it's all just blown completely out of proportion in the grand scheme of things. Chocoholic Oh EJ, So much for your 'Peaceful Protests'! 7 Days today, front page: 'Iraqi militant group the Army of Mujahedeen called on it's members to attack any reachable Danish and Norweigian targets, as Copenhagen started to take measures to protect its citizens in muslim countries.' "Boycotting cheese and milk products is a frail stance which reflects a weak (Islamic) nation that does not defend its prophet or principles" the group said. Danish and Norweigan nationals have been attacked and the Danish flag is being burned. I'd hardly call that peaceful! You see it's all very well saying peaceful protest is good, but then you get the nutters on board and it all kicks off! Shameful! mAJOR pAIN basically lets just say that ... we all have our own diff reasons ... as to boycott danish product or what but before we loose civility in this forum which i sense any time now ... its better to just leave it to that and lock this thread ... pls mr moderator .. HP banned From Concerning News paper
Honourable Citizens of The Muslim World
Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten is a strong proponent of democracy and freedom of religion. The newspaper respects the right of any human being to practise his or her religion. Serious misunderstandings in respect of some drawings of the Prophet Mohammed have led to much anger and, lately, also boycott of Danish goods in Muslim countries.
Please allow me to correct these misunderstandings.
On 30 September last year, Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten published 12 different cartoonists' idea of what the Prophet Mohammed might have looked like. The initiative was taken as part of an ongoing public debate on freedom of expression, a freedom much cherished in Denmark.
In our opinion, the 12 drawings were sober. They were not intended to be offensive, nor were they at variance with Danish law, but they have indisputably offended many Muslims for which we apologize.
Since then a number of offensive drawings have circulated in The Middle East which have never been published in Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten and which we would never have published, had they been offered to us. We would have refused to publish them on the grounds that they violated our ethical code.
Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten attaches importance to upholding the highest ethical standards based upon the respect of our fundamental values. It is so much more deplorable, therefore, that these drawings were presented as if they had anything to do with Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten.
Maybe because of culturally based misunderstandings, the initiative to publish the 12 drawings has been interpreted as a campaign against Muslims in Denmark and the rest of the world.
I must categorically dismiss such an interpretation. Because of the very fact that we are strong proponents of the freedom of religion and because we respect the right of any human being to practise his or her religion, offending anybody on the grounds of their religious beliefs is unthinkable to us.
That this happened was, consequently, unintentional.
As a result of the debate that has been going on about the drawings, we have met with representatives of Danish Muslims, and these meetings were held in a positive and constructive spirit. We have also sought in other ways to initiate a fruitful dialogue with Danish Muslims.
It is the wish of Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten that various ethnic groups should live in peace and harmony with each other and that the debates and disagreements which will always exist in a dynamic society should do so in an atmosphere of mutual respect.
For that reason, Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten has published many articles describing the positive aspects of integration, for example in a special supplement entitled The Contributors. It portrayed a number of Muslims who have had success in Denmark. The supplement was rewarded by the EU Commission.
Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten takes exception to symbolic acts suited to demonise specific nationalities, religions and ethnic groups.
Sincerely yours
Carsten Juste
Editor-in-Chief
In arabic
http://www1.jp.dk/indland/doku/jp_brev_arabisk.pdf HP
Thats also within Saudi law ,why do u cry then :0) .... what u wrote in your text is
" An independent Danish newspaper has the right to publish what it wants about anyone or anything, within Danish law. ".

What if someone link the Jesus with Terror or make disrespectful picture of Jesus? I think reaction would be really severe in southern europe and USA. I am talking about real christian people , not the christian people who attend the church only two times in their entire life ;0).

U dont go to Saudi arab then why do u cry about their laws :0). HP
Choco sweetheart ,
so i spare you this time :boxing: your british mate arinegang was pissed off when i said pious cow to the british queen . what was the reason? because he has respect for his head of state no matter what.
When you dont have respect for your own Prophet then how can we expect you to demonstrate the respect for the religion of others :0). Chocoholic HP, it's a totally different story. It's a sad fact that today, in light of the events and actions of certain fanatical factions in recent years - I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but it's an observation - that many of Joe Public when they hear the word Muslim think terrorist. So you really have to go back and look at events that have given this image and people have to look within their own groups to see why this is happening. Sad, but true. When you have these looneys appearing on tv condoning terrorist acts of killing innocents and violence in the name of Allah and the Prophet and quoting the Koran, what do you honestly expect. Anyone with have a brain knows that these people ar misguided and that's not what Islam is about, but the outward image it gives is appalling and yet nothing, nothing appears to be done by their own people to stop them. So maybe look closer to home to place the blame. Liban Think all you want of the proud Islamic world.
The western world is in general trigger happy with all the wars they start and their colonial legacy....
The west is decadent for the most part.
The Queen of England is a pompous cow. Prince Charles is a dick with ears.
I can't wait to Photoshop some pornographic images of the Danish Queen and post them on the net.
NOTE TO ALL HACKERS. IF YOU FIND THIS PICTURE ON THE WEB, HACK INTO ALL DANISH GOVERNMENT SITES AND POST IT THERE.
Freedom of Speech......
Face it, we attack Bush all the time and the US, but people fail to realize that Europe is governed by greater SOBs than the American Chimp President. The only difference is that many of Europe's policies are internal as opposed to external American policies and thus we do not see them outside of Europe so we they are nice. But they ain't.... Chocoholic Liban, You're absolutely right. But what I'm saying is do you think the Prophet would have been depicted in such a way if the current things were not happening? I think not! And once again, until the leaders start to outcast and condem the actions of certain people and groups bringing shame to Islam and it's followers, many others will view it through fearful eyes. fayz oh my goodness, The radio did say yesterday was the coldest day in the UAE but has hell really frozen over or did Choco and Liban agree on something. hehehe. btw most leaders with an IQ of 10 or higher do condemn the actions of the moronic. yshimy SecretDubai and Choco ,
You both don't get the point, it is not about a person who drew the cartoons, it is about the nation that supported him and didn't want to appologize.
When the terrorist attacks takes place no muslim nation support it and defend them, so thats the difference.
SecretDubai is talking about terrorist attacks and boycotting muslim products, what this BS about???? who did back up these ideologies so you boycott??? Go ahead, be my guest boycott Al Qaeda products man!!!!
Choco,
Donot boycott as you wish, it is a free world. But don't tell us that Danish ppl are being attacked, didn't see, hear or read about a single incident. to be honest i do salute the muslim society there for being very rational and don't just go mad and do crazy things when these cartoons were published. That doesn't mean we will not see this happening in the future, there is always ppl who are not rational and might do these attacks.
About this iraqi moujahedeen army or whatever that called to attack Danish people........ Which country does this army belongs too?????? Iraq??? no it is not, it is just resistance but not a formal army.. DAH
Please get the point ppl, it is about country supporting total valgur opinion or totally disrespectful idea and they support and deffend it.
Lately what they done by this article posted 2 posts before, As i said before, they just trying to make it better because the felt the power of the Muslim nation. YES they felt the heat, they felt their country gonna loose alot. it is not because they respect our religion or respect our feelings. So TO THE HELL WITH THEM, i'll keep my boycott and keep calling for it.
Last, Secret Dubai
Don't like Saudi rulings?, well it is their way, why are you offended, the people live their accept it, so why the hell you bother?? and by the way, it is working greatly, check the statistics of Crime rate and rape. check the states and Saudi statistics.
Why didn't you speak out your voice for Netherland allowying drugs, or the rest of the world for allowing prostitution?????????? or USA for leathel injection or electric chair???? why it is you only bother about the laws of a country you didn't even step your feet in, or you will never do???? or is it just for the sake of attacking islamic nation or islamic rules. and yes stonning a man is islamic rule for the couple who would f**k each other while they are both married to different people.
Have some sanity. and this point about human rights. HAHAHAHHAHA you make me laugh man and thank god he didn't give you your reasoning ability. GUANTANAMOOOOOOOOOO hehe, human rights!!!!!!
Danish and Norweigan nationals have been attacked and the Danish flag is being burned. Chocoholic
Yshimy,
I IS on the front page of 7 Days newspaper today -
And who cares where this army or not is based, they're still inciting people to attack Danish and Norweigan nationals and the industries. So don't tell me it's not relevant, or that they're acting rationally and with restraint.
Anyway the whole thing is BS and completely blown out of proportion in comparison to many of the things happening in the world today. You think a starving child gives a rats arse about a cartoon? Please do me a favour and put it in perspective. kanelli The cartoons were in very bad taste and freedom of speech or not, the editor of the paper made a huge mistake in allowing those to be published. Once again ignorance and lack of respect for other cultures is deemed accepted under the guise of "free speech". Despite this, the Islamic world should know by now not to make a mountain out of a mole hill when it comes to these kinds of paper-selling techniques, because in the West freedom of speech is often used for shock value and commercial purposes. Boycott if you like, but those Danish companies had nothing to do with the newspaper publishing those pictures. Freedom of speech will always be defended because it is better to suffer through the misuse of freedom of speech than be censored on important topics. This is why the Danish people support the right to free speech in this case, even if they found the cartoons to be distasteful. Punish them if you like, but if you really understand their perspective you might think twice. And for some of you mentioning Ahmadinejad and his comments about the holocaust - he is being just as sensational as the Danish newspaper was trying to be. However, Ahmadinejad is going one step further by hosting a conference on whether the holocaust really happened or not. The idea that the holocaust is a myth and was used as a basis for establishing the state of Israel is such a load of crap. I'm guessing it will be a short conference because there is overwhelming evidence that the holocaust was real and millions of innocent Jews were murdered! There should be more fuss over Ahmadinejad than some cartoons in a Danish newspaper. Just because many Arabs dislike Israelis doesn't mean brainless people like Ahmadinejad should be supported with his stupid claims. (The Ahmadinejad topic should be put in a new thread if it becomes the focus now. I was just saying it is related to this topic in that Ahmadinejad was using "free speech" just as irresponsibly as the Danish newspaper was.) che78 Like someone said already, if we boycott products from every country that pisses us off every now and then then we're gonna starve to death. However, I don't agree with what the Jyllands Posten Newspaper did. Many people argue that it was merely practicing its democratic right of free speech, however, there is a very thin line between free speech and encitement of hatred, and what the paper did was latter. The term freedom of speech is not an absolute as it cannot be used to injure or degrade others physically or psychologically because you have thus infringed on their right to live in peace. You are free to practice your freedom of speech as long as you're not using it to stir up trouble or to antagonise a certain group of people for no particular reason as that could only lead to civil unrest and tensions between different communities. Muslims in Europe have been living in an environment of fear since 9/11 because of the actions of a few misguided individuals. Consequently, many racist individuals within Europe saw this as the perfect opportunity to pursue their own hidden agenda of purifying Europe, and have since vociferously attacked governments for their leniency with these barbarians and demanded strict anti-immigration control measures within europe. Therefore, papers like the Jyllands Posten in Denmark, and the good ol' Sun and Daily Mail in England are just pouring more gas into an already burning house and are doing more damage with their inflammatory remarks which are aimed at sparking an already simmering situation. That is NOT freedom of speech nor should it be allowed anywhere! fayz
Ummm I don't think you got Yshimy's point, he was saying the army is a faction not supported by a country/nation, just a bunch of idiotic radicals. I believe the point he was making is the country they are from do not support that group of idiots, which differs in what happened with the cartoons. If you take something/someone that people hold very dear to them and inappropriately portray it of course people are going to be offended by it.
If you saw a depiction of live cat being skinned in a cartoon would you not be the first to say “what kind of sik fk would thing this is funny” “what kind of fk’d up government would support this”? secretdubai What if someone link the Jesus with Terror or make disrespectful picture of Jesus? I think reaction would be really severe in southern europe and USA. I am talking about real christian people , not the christian people who attend the church only two times in their entire life ;0).
This happens frequently, and with Mary as well as Jesus. And Christian groups are often vocal in their protests. But it doesn't extend to product boycotts of the countries involved. About the only boycott Christian groups seem to make is of films and TV channels, from time to time.
Boycott if you like, but those Danish companies had nothing to do with the newspaper publishing those pictures.
Amen. Just as the average Muslim has nothing to do with terrorism.
EDIT: [URL=] Here [/url] is a more mature response to the situation:
"We need to counter it by our good deeds, action and work," he advised. Shaikh Khalfan wants measures to be taken to remove misconceptions about Islam in the West. "We must use print media, satellite television channels or hold conferences in places like Denmark to educate people about our religion and beliefs," he believes.
He advised people in the Muslim world not to be reactionary. "Don't get emotional," he suggested and added that people should hold a dialogue with those responsible for such acts and educate them about Islam.
"Education, communication and dialogue are the means to remove misunderstandings not boycott," said Shaikh Khalfan, urging Muslims to say kind words to mankind. [/url] yshimy Fayez man, Thanks for clarifing, thats exactly what i wanted to say but seems Choco is not getting it. Really wise to talk in her language, i liked the comparison you did about the Cat Cartoon. "out of topic" There is a Mazda Rx8 for sale on exotic motors for 120k ;) Kanelli, yes man, enough with Ahmadnajad, yes both senarios are abusing the "freedom of speach" kanelli
This sounds like the ONLY true solution for creating better understanding and reducing offence and conflict. yshimy
nah, he wouldn't give a damn about Cartoon, nor about holocaust, nor about homless dogs nor cats, nor about fur industry, nor about pollution, nor about WMD, nor about religion (depends), nor about rules or regulations, nor about society or values, nor about anything but to get his food even if it required him stealing it.
Should we allow stealing?!!!!don't try to strip the events from everthing and try to work on the micro level than the macro level.
And you are asking me to put it in perspective, and what does this poor starving boy got to do with that!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angryfire: :banghead:
YOU DON'T MAKE SENSE
"Note: The above comment is protected by the Muslim/Arab freedom of speach rules." fayz Agreed education is the only weapon against ignorance. (actually I mentioned that a few posts back as well) As for the RX8, I ended up buying an SUV I have my family coming to visit and my girlfriend’s plus a few of my friends so as much as it killed me to do it, I bought something “practical” the RX8 will have to wait until we can afford 3 cars. yshimy "A Danish company said two of its workers were assaulted in Mecca." This is on the article of the seven days. Quick analsys, If they are in Mecca, it means they are Muslims, and then will not be attacked, as they will yell "La illah illa allah) If the are not Muslims, then they will not be in Mecca and this news will be a FABRICATION. Cheers mAJOR pAIN
yeah true !! not only that Islamic gov. NEVER support, but they even
condem most ofthe actions of these rebellious morons ... if denmark
wouldnt act on the newspaper, legally i mean in some sort of fine or
something legal, then it only showsthat the gov. is somewhat supporting
this stupid piece of journalism ... like i said the newspaper's apology is not
enough the GOV should make a legal case against the PAPER and The
GOv. would have to make a LAW that provides protection to religion
against any form of attacks ... only by this way i think we can say that its
JUST fair .... secretdubai There have been non-Muslim workers in Mecca - whatever telco company put the mobile network in Mecca used non-Muslim workers. It was kept extremely discreet (the Saudi authorites gave the nod but would obviously not officially, publically acknowledge it) but there was no choice, since the skill levels required were so high-level and specific and there was no suitable muslim employee available, presumably. So I bet this has happened in other instances too. HP Freedom of speech doesnt mean to divide the entire world between muslims and non-muslims,thats what the news paper did. They created the same situation as it was on 9-11 . News paper shuld understand what is its responsibility toward society.
This is the first time arab countries earned respect before me ,love u Saudi Arab :P
what to reply to choco and secret ,they are jst insisting for nothing :).
Choco has more respect for [color=red]"Robbie Williams"[/color] than [color=red]Jesus [/color]. secretdubai Freedom of speech doesnt mean to divide the entire world between muslims and non-muslims,thats what the news paper did. They created the same situation as it was on 9-11 .
If you are suggesting that printing a rather tasteless cartoon is in some way analogous to murdering several thousand people - including muslims - in one fell swoop, then I really pity you, and your (lack of) intelligence. HP D-Unti (dodo) is danish national ,can anyone of you beat her up ,but remember she has expertise in martial arts. :P Dodo Bi(t)ch where are u , lost somewhere in Dubai? I miss u :0) . When are you coming back to Denmark. DK and especially your shop is deserted without u ..........Dont tell me that you have initiated " Bycott DK's product" in Middle east :wink: HP
Being Muslim we believe that killing one innocent person is like killing humanity :0) . We always condem killing regardless if it is the blood of muslim or non muslim :0). So there is no debate on it , so why are u trying to relate it with 9-11 ? Am i clear off? I told u earlier that we even provided air and ground space to USA to hunt down so called terror ,or whatsoever.
Having said that
Now i say
News papers must realize their responsibility toward society and they shouldt divide the world in two group " Muslims and western".

If you are more dumb then lets take an example (guide for dummies):
some people ,personality has respect in different societies , cultures , religions so and so. May be i dont have respect for British Queen but i wouldnt say anything about her because i know our british fellow will consider it disrespect ........
In same way , we wouldnt write anything bad about jesus , we know lot lot of people in this world are sensitive about him.
Indian worship their gods and i dont have right to make fun of them .
Bycott is fair
I know that arla is innocent but how do you build pressure on another country ? Countries dont have conscience, country is not individual , so in order to make them that they were on mistake , we have to do some tricks:0) . USA impose sanction against countries .......for example they imposed sanction against Libya and then libya had to accept the terms of US.....Whats was the fault of all people ? were everyone responsible ? NO .......but thats the way sweety:0)
In order to teach the lesson to DK , there was one way and it was to bycott their products and now see
1= Their news paper offered appology (after 3 months) ,why it happened because they are suffering from loss.
2= The anti immigrants lady silent , she is not even making a little statement. She know people will curse that because of her we are having loss.
3= Prime Minister 's speech was translated in arabic ,why he realized that ?because of bycott :0).
4= Danish industry sent letter to concerning news paper ........
next time they will think 101 times before doing anything like that :0) arniegang HP - interesting to note that your command of the English Lang has undergone a remarkable improvement over the last week. :wink: :wink: :wink: mAJOR pAIN
well said... Liban HP.... Well man, you spoke well :) calkoon The boycott is working, but I still don't feel it's gone far enough.... it shouldn't stop, at least not yet. Danes are involved in a lot more than just dairy products....
I strongly believe this is going to be a very long term boycott, the level of racism in Denmark against Muslim is very high at all levels in the Dane society.
And I've never heard a more pathetic appology in my life, I wouldn't even call it an appology. The newspaper only added further insult with its half hearted appology.
The newspaper should have clearly stated that their "sole" intention was to insult Muslim and further add to the racial divide between Danes and Muslim in Denmark.
I should also add that "79% of the Danish population believe that no apology for the cartoons in Jyllands-Posten is due."
Nordic firm hit by Arab boycott
The Danish-Swedish dairy giant Arla Foods says its sales in the Middle East have plummeted to zero as a result of a row over cartoons published in Denmark.
The firms said it had to lay off 100 people because of the fall in demand.
The row began when a Danish newspaper published a series of caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad, some of them depicting him as a terrorist.
Anger against Denmark is continuing to grow across the Middle East, despite an apology offered by the newspaper.
Arla Foods, one of Europe's biggest dairy companies, is being hardest hit by a boycott of Danish products across the region.
The company has annual sales of $480m there.
"Our sales in the Middle East have come to a complete stop - in all countries in the region," company spokeswoman Astrid Gade Niels told the BBC.
No government apology
At the weekend, Arla placed adverts in Middle-Eastern newspapers to try to dissociate itself from the caricatures.
The cartoons sparked outrage in the Muslim world, where depictions of the Prophet Muhammad or Allah are banned.
On Monday the newspaper that published the caricatures, Jyllands-Posten, said: "These cartoons were not in violation of Danish law but have irrefutably offended many Muslims, and for that we apologise."
The Danish Prime Minister, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, welcomed the apology - but again defended the freedom of the press.
"The Danish government cannot apologise on behalf of a Danish newspaper... Independent media are not edited by the government," he said.
Besides boycotts, the backlash has also included diplomatic sanctions and Islamic militant threats.
The Danish foreign ministry advised against non-essential travel to Saudi Arabia and urged Danes to be cautious in other Muslim countries.
Liban May the wrath of God bear upon those bastards for their blasphemy... God is Great and He will give us justice. Muslims will not keep silent. Our dignity has been taken away from us time and time again, we have gone from being the envy of the planet years ago to being marionettes today.... No more! May this boycvott last, may they feel our anger.... They will RESPECT US. calkoon Of all the boycotts I've read about, it's only butter, cheese and other dairy products that are affected...!! Is this boycott of food enough? The insults against the Prophet would in no way affect him or his message. The Prophet was protect by God until he spread his message the world over. The Danish paper didn't attack the Prophet, it attacked Muslims dignity as a whole and it is a must to take futher action to protect the dignity of Muslims in future. It's curious how when our dignity is offended our first reaction is to think about our stomachs??!! If boycotting butter is all that becomes of this insult, then further ridicule of us (not the Prophet) in cartoons is in order. The people that stopped eating butter when their dignity was offended..! What is needed is stronger action that affects Denmarks policies toward Muslims. A duel respect of each others belief and faith. Neither should trample of the others dignity. To be honest, I cannot see Denmarks Government taking any serious action on their part... It's time Muslims looked beyond their "stomacks" for other Danish products to Boycott..... (I've made it eaiser for you all by posting a list of Danish Products) Chocoholic
Yshimy,
I'm amazed at your narrow mindedness! So you say that a muslim would never attack another muslim? Yeah right OK, it's happened time and time again and don't automatically assume things will be a fabrication. I think you look at the world through rose tinted glasses. And my point about the Iraqi guys, who ever they are is that they're inciting violence against the Danes - that was my only point! After several people were saying that it would all be peaceful! It doesn't matter where they are, they're advocating and promoting the attacks on them - which is not on! Chocoholic
Liban, Respect has to be earnt, not forced upon people or demanded!
Anyway this topic is really boring now. Chocoholic According to news wires this morning the Danish offices of the newspaper were evacuated last night due to a bomb threat - great so now another fantastic image for you to think about! This does nothing to undo the image that many muslims when faced with something they don't like, are violent and aggressive! Once again - well done! Liban The west is decant and corrupt. If its the sabre that they understand, then in their belly the sabre will go. Liban
They deserve a fate much worse than a simple bomb threat.... Chocoholic Liban, Exactly my point! People would have a lot more respect for you if you were calm about the topic, but when you spout things like that and encourage violence, you then turn around in total surprise when people turn against you! You'll never understand! Go ahead and blame the future generations for the past, there's nothing we can do about it, but you're obviously too ignorant to understand this concept. Grow up and start acting like a human being who shares this place with lots of others, instead of being arrogant and thinking you're above everyone else, because you're not! You're just petty and give yourself and others a bad name! The way you harp on about people will get theirs - blah blah blah, there's only one place for you! And it isn't up! Liban Once again a Westerner who doesn't understand our culture has spoken.... All hail the mightly Westerner... Chocoholic Well honestly, what do you expect, when all you preach is hatred, yes blow up those who cross you, is it any wonder? I have no care for people who if they don't get their own way, throw their toys out the pram and think violence is an answer! Islam and true Muslims are peacing loving, tolerant people - nothing like you! Who twists and turns everything little thing and ends up crying when someone talks against you, you're a disgrace to the Muslim friends I have who certainly wouldn't side with you! Liban I care little for your words and what you call me.... You obviously do not understand our anger... Very few in the West understand... I shake my head and pity those that do not understand.... HP Look at the headline of news paper
Honourable Fellow Citizens of the Muslim World
Hahahahah , i remember ,this news paper always used to call terror to muslims .............but boycott did lot of tricks and now the media and government have changed the tone of their voice and first time realize " world exist beyound Denmark".
:P
choco
can u avoid posting your views when you dont know about religion and culture sensitivity? In order to discuss why E= mc(sqr) ,u must have background in math and physics. In the same way ,in order to discuss religion ,you must be qualified enough to write a response. So dont make fool of yourself by argument for the sake of argument policy:) Liban HP, I agree with you fully on this matter.... HP dude, whats happened to you.... You speak good English and are quite rational.... When are you coming to Dubai? yshimy will try to make it short
HP, Liban,
You are right, freedom of speach Choco can talk rubbish, and we decide not to listen to her rubbish talk, yes rubbish.
Choco,
You still can't get it!!!! you still talking about unkown army and a bomb threat that might be right or wrong or fabricated or even real done by an individual who is angry. you can't understand our meaning of Country supported assult vs. individual actions?????
You call me nerrow minded and liban and hp and me as violant muslims???????
you really got no idea what you are saying, please if anyone got her point, please help us to understand her twisted logic.
And YES in such event "cartoon thing" why the Fcuk they would attack muslims, muslims in DK are suffering as much as we are, or even more and worse. Do some thinking gurl, you amaze me by ****** won't be as valgur as you and start attacking you as you did to ME, HP, and Liban "the violant muslims as you call us"
and with or without cartoon thing, if non-muslims are found in Mecca they should be caught and judged, they are not allowed to be there BY LAW.
ohhhhh, i'm done.
HP ,
I wonder what happened to the banned one????? is that you man, i can hardly see the same person, Better english, more rational... well, i think we should ban choco too, she might turn into more rational person.
cheers mates mAJOR pAIN like my new policy "IF YOU HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO POST ; RATHER NOT POST ANYTHING.." :lol: like what my father said ... You cannot reason the "RIGHT" to someone who is never "WRONG" at the end of the day ... the vast Majority Knows Who REALLY is STUPID and MORONIC ... " so just let them believe what they wanna believe .... anyway FIRST THINGS FIRST IM CHRISTIAN !! and I know there is a Good number of REAL Christians around the World who will Support the Muslim Cause this Time ... cause really times like this where there are MORONIC INDIVIDUALS Who likes TO STIR and CREATE PROBLEMS we THE Children of GOD's Words .We Belong to the Sacred 3 Books of Faith and Life. WE are Brothers and Sisters in Faith so do speak we might have some DIFF.. but in TIMES Like this we should stand UNITED ... arniegang Some of you guys speak with such hatred. It is a good job you are not representative of your fellow countrymen or faith. The decent ones of us out there, treat and think of you with utter contempt. You say we dont understand your culture. This is incorrect. We do understand, what we dont understand is the "few" of you that have such extremist narrow minded viewpoints and speak so, with such a passion of hatred for all those that dare have an alternative viewpoint or opinion. It is no wonder, there are so few other Muslims on here that post their views. They are probably in fear. Interesting to see its always the same people that are so very vocal on sensitive issues in here. The minority speaking on behalf of the majority?? I think not!! Liban Ask any Muslim who the agressor is and the answer will be pretty uniform... Do not think to speak in the name of Muslims or Islam as a whole if you are not from the area or not Muslim. Liban, If you understand the concept of "hypocrocy", then you will realise this statement equally applies to yourself. mAJOR pAIN like my new policy "IF YOU HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO POST ; RATHER NOT POST ANYTHING.." Laughing like what my father said ... You cannot reason the "RIGHT" to someone who is never "WRONG" at the end of the day ... the vast Majority Knows Who REALLY is STUPID and MORONIC ... " so just let them believe what they wanna believe .... anyway FIRST THINGS FIRST IM CHRISTIAN !! and I know there is a Good number of REAL Christians around the World who will Support the Muslim Cause this Time ... cause really times like this where there are MORONIC INDIVIDUALS Who likes TO STIR and CREATE PROBLEMS we THE Children of GOD's Words .We Belong to the Sacred 3 Books of Faith and Life. WE are Brothers and Sisters in Faith so do speak we might have some DIFF.. but in TIMES Like this we should stand UNITED ... kanelli Exactly. My experience with Muslims so far are that they are kind and gentle people who value the same things in life that most people do. They are confident in their own relationship with their god and realise that hate is toxic. To be honest, the only really hostile Muslims I've ever had contact with have been the few posting here. At first I found it unnerving, but now I realise that I can get perspective by meeting more Muslims - it comforts me to know that they aren't sharing the same radical views as some people here. So many people from different cultures go to a great effort to learn about and appreciate other cultures, and it is a disservice to tell them they know nothing just because they come from another country, disagree with something you say, or haven't converted to your religion. arniegang
Nice one Liban.
They may say that, i agree, but not with the passion and hatred that the likes of the few submit on here.
However in my humble opinion i disagree with your generalistaion. arniegang
Totally agree with you Kanelli. I have the same experiences myself with muslims of all nationalities. secretdubai Oh Liban you are a sad little troll aren't you? We educated "westerners", and plenty of educated muslims, don't "despise" you. We pity you, and your childish threats against innocent people. And for god's sake - you come from Lebanon. Have a look at your country's rating in corruption indices compared to Denmark or most of Europe. I suggest you go and read the opinions of muslims who actually practice their religion - mercy, peace and tolerance - and grow the fuck up. http://www.mahmood.tv might be a good start for you Liban
Christianity, with a few minor exceptions, is extremily close to Islam. Christians are People of the Book and as such are respected in the Quran and by Muslims....
A real Christian will disavow the words Judeo-Christian west as nothing more that Zionist propaganda.
A real Christian will see that he has more in common with Muslims than the decadent West. A real Christian is a brother amongst men.
A real Christian will understand suffering as Jesus suffered much in his life and as such would feel for Muslims worldwide and hold their hands in support.
MP, you are not a Major Pain in my opinion but a Major Christian... Bless you. arniegang Such wise words Secret - I like you :wink: yshimy Guys, Arniegang and Kenalli

What hatred did me or others submitt??? towards who??? kanelli
Right on!
And Liban, good luck trying to tell us that we are wrong about our Muslim friends. You have no right to say they are not true Muslims if they don't share your views or act and speak out like you do. mAJOR pAIN an mostly all muslims are like that they nice people ... and very religou .. unlike most christians in this forum some are bunch of hypocrytes they say something when they mean another thing ... some are sooo incensitive instead of just understanding and maintained a nutral response to this thread to calm our muslim forumers instead they feed this thread until it actually divided us forumers in two camps ... sice we are christians and we know that our fellow Christians had done terrible acts of Blasphemy towards them ... why cant we just console instead of disagree ??? cause im someone do this to Jesus Christ they will, not try to say that those MORONS are right .. yet they will console with out being intemidating .. and yes we do have people here in Dubaiforums wher lets say have blown Head wher its blown so big they loose the power to reason and be sensitive .. again to the muslim community of dubai forums im sorry and im ashamed of whats happening :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: arniegang
Ohhhhhhh i get it now, so its ok being a "true christian" as long as they smpathise with your views.
mmmmmmmmmmm very interesting.
Liban, you really do need to look up the word "hypocrite" in the dictionary
:P kanelli Liban, if we are not allowed to speak of Islam because we are not followers, why do you speak of Christianity and judge who are real Christians or not? Please give us a list of rules that we are to follow, and then attach the list of rules that only you and people who agree with you are allowed to follow. :lol: arniegang
Do you have probelm reading Yshimy?
Do you understand the term "reading between the lines" ??
:shock: Liban And those who disagree with what a true Christian is end with what MAjor Pain says are not true Christians.... Most westerners are not Christians in the true sense but decadent children... Say what you want, I do not care... You of no faith or you who doesn't understand Chrisitanity, you have no place in Heaven amongst men of honor... Men like Jesus, men like Nelson Mandela, men like Prophet Mohammed, men like Salahuddein, etc... kanelli Blah blah, avoid, judge, blah blah, judge, avoid, blah blah blah. yshimy Secret Dubai,
That is very mature from you attack Lebanon now, Check please the forum topic then start typing...!!!!!!!! Talking about mature ppl....
If you wanna start to talk about lebanon, start a new Fcuking Topic...
Arniegang, Kanelli, Choco....
Why you turn this about Muslims, and Christians, noone here talked about this cartoonist as christian nor about this act as Christian attack on Muslims?????!!!!!!!!!!
[color=red] This is about an individual, who did an act agaist muslims and was supported by his country. They didn't appologize except when they knew that they will pay for it. [/color]
Thats what it is all about, i wonder where christianity came in here.
We may have talked about westerns, but not Christians. Do you know the difference?????? arniegang
Our "case rests" Kanelli.
Liban judges himself, of others and their faith, then speaks of our lack of understanding regarding his.
A true hypocrite and one of such blinded knowledge.
His wisdom is wasted within his hatred. mAJOR pAIN

to all you reading this forum ... what do you feel isnt this a reasonable
request ??? was there any hatred in this ??? what do you think do you
think we should close this topic??? obviously our"EDUCATED" moderator seems to like to fight rather than to discuss ... very mature OH EDUCATED WESTERN ONE ... Liban
Are you a goat???? arniegang
Millions of us "Westerners" are "Christians - you sad and ignorant person
:shock: :shock: kanelli For fu$% sakes! The Danes support free speech, even if it is bad. They did not say that they all enjoyed the cartoons and agreed that the editor should publish them! Learn how to read, and learn a bit more about democracy and free speech which has been hard won and for which people would spill blood for if their government tried to take it away. Liban
No, true Christians in the west are few and far in numbers.... Those not disapproving and admitting fault in Denmark are not Christians... arniegang MP I will decide when this thread is locked and closed End of. yshimy I'm done with this topic, No more posting, seems some people are picking fights and want to make it Chrisitan vs. Muslims. This is shame kanelli
Why does anyone have to be Christian, Muslim or whatever? More importantly, why is this relevant?
Christians can also believe in free speech, even if they found the cartoons shameful and inappropriate. I'm surprised that I have to explain this! kanelli
Yes, that is a shame isn't it.
Too bad everyone wasn't athiest like me - it would make the world a better place :D yshimy
NO Comment. Liban You fail to see your faults and from what I see here, its Westerners united against the Muslims on this list... GoodBai, Secret Dairy, Kanelli, Chocoholic, and Arniegang against Liban, Yshimy and MP (a true Christian)... This is going nowhere since the westerners here are united against the Truth, God, and the religion of the country that houses and provides for them. Whatever. Liban
Will you have a good time when in Hell also?
I'm outta here. mAJOR pAIN
yes very nice the great Moderator ... it only shows how educated you are .. giving such hostile remarks agains a very reasonable request :

to all you reading this forum ... what do you feel isnt this a reasonable
request ??? was there any hatred in this ??? what do you think do you
think we should close this topic??? obviously our"EDUCATED" moderator seems to like to fight rather than to discuss ... very mature OH EDUCATED WESTERN ONE ...
"
I will decide when this thread is locked and closed
End of" very typical WESTERN very power hungry ... very childish ....
shame.... arniegang
Your ignorance disappoints me Liban. What right do you think you have to dictate to me or anyone else as "too what constitutes a true christian". kanelli
You are a rabid Muslim "I hate the West, they are at fault for everything" contributor to this board, but it is our fault if we bring up logical points about how destructive your attitude is, and how illogical your points are. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY! Many of us have said we sympathise with many Arab/Muslim issues! You are outnumber even by many Muslims on this board - many are just sitting quietly and watching the fur fly. Notice how not many are supporting you very often? Now who has the warped perceptions here Liban? All I ask is for you to stop being so hateful or else go and hang out with people you feel are fit enough to share your company. If you aren't trying to educate us and have a real dialogue - only want to spew hate - then consider sitting on your hands before you post. None of us are posting hateful things about Islam or Arabs! Do not mistake us disagreeing with some of your opinions on this site as further offence against Islam or Arabs - that is completly illogical! calkoon I wonder if Westerners here feel that the Cartoons, which were deliberately published with the intention of insulting the Prophet Mohammed, can be considered a form of free speech?? Why is a mutual respect for each other such a bad thing..... Why is an appology so difficult.....? Muslims never resort to such insults, and they never will. mAJOR pAIN
AMEN !!! arniegang
MP - you are a serious hypocrite.
Just read back in fight club re : the comment you made about my mother who is sadly not with me, and has been gone peacefully for the last 26 years.
You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.
Muslim or Christian you are one of the rudest and disrespectful people i have ever had the dis-pleasure of encountering. kanelli How do you know that Muslims wouldn't do it if there was a longer tradition of free speech and more religions present in the society? Free speech is often abused, and cannot be policed. After all, who would be suitable to judge what could be said and what couldn't be? If there is no free speech, how can people express themselves on the important issues and have an open dialogue with the goal of effecting change? The bad must be taken with the good. I think the publishing of the cartoons was very inappropriate, but I hold the newspaper editor and the people involved in creating the cartoons responsible for this crisis. They were the ones with the poor taste and obvious lack of respect, and they are the ones who should apologise and be held accountable. Many citizens of nations that have a long tradition of free speech are used to it being used for shock value and can easily ignore what they don't like to see, and they do complain as well. This can partially explain why the average Dane probably doesn't see the cartoon issue as being that important. Anyone here who thinks that the Danish people were at home thinking, "Yeah, the cartoons were great, to hell with all Muslims!" is seriously mislead and devoid of reason. mAJOR pAIN
see we are all agreeing in one thing though ... the main reson that there was a spark on this conversatin is if you re-track ... you will find that there really was some insulting attack from your side (one of your debater) which actually tries to link this along side the Terrorist attack which we really believe is off the topic because Terrorist are condemnd in ALL ARAB COUNTRIES .. Even Bin Laden was thrown out of his ouwn country by his own family ... while the newspaper is diff. because the GOv. is not only defending the paper but its actually saying that they apologiz because they have to not because they know its wrong ...
or is it really hard for western to sometimes admitt that they are wrong ??? you might be diff kenelli but please do read the whole thread then you will know and find out why this has been like this ... it started as a god thread ... mAJOR pAIN
Kenelli with all do respect but that reasoning belongs to the other thread and i beilive its already dead ... this is a thread of US meeting up and having a BBQ .. so pls say you in and send info to me liban or constantine ... well if you dont wish to come then just dont post and start a debate ... pls ...
but we would like you to come too with all honestly ... its just a forums so please lets be matured .. secretdubai
For someone so anti freedom of speech, you might be interested to learn that this comment puts you seriously in breach of UAE anti-terrorism laws.
Anyway,
Guess y'all better start boycotting Geant and Carrefour now. Chocoholic
Well that's very nice of you to say MP and a nice sentiment, but a whole other ball game when Liban condons bomb threats against the paper!
Yshimy - sorry but you are totally narrow minded, you believe everything is a fabrication and against you which is not true, you like Liban have been listening to the wicked little whispers in your ears when you should have been ignoring them and you'll learn the error of that soon enough, although it'll be too late by then. kanelli
I said nothing about terrorism in relation to this topic. yshimy :silent: kanelli
You are in the wrong thread Major Pain :D No worries. :lol: kanelli Major Pain, what is "my side"? I am not Danish and I did not make the cartoons. So no one cares to comment on the fact that it really might be the case that free speech is what is being defended, not offensive cartoons to Muslims? Again, the Danish people are not in some anti-Muslim conspiracy! Some Muslims on this board refuse to listen to any contrary evidence or cultural explanations - they just want to believe in conspiracy conspiracy conspiracy! easternjewel whoa! I guess HP, LIBAN, YSHIMY have covered almost every single bit to this issue & I agree with them. If others fails to understand, no point in extending this. Christian or no Christian. Western or no Western. Its not about this. Kenelli, nothing like Muslims are watching the fur fly.. Liban can be aggressive in puting his word...otherwise I support him and his views on this, totally. We Muslims feel insulted, we chose to take action by bycotting as a personal choice... simple. This topic is not for Non muslims anyway cause they are not the one affected. No point giving you guys example of susbstituting Jesus or the Bible in the place of Quran, and Prophet Mohd. (PBUH) cause I see that your not sensitive enough towards your religion, your not religious. (no offence) The same if was done about someone you really Loved... was accused of something that theyre not, you'd just wana kill that person...like Arnie- MP case... Arnie is pissed. So please now, Leave us Alone and dont make it worst. arniegang
Sorry EJ
I beg to differ. The difference being that although i think MP and some others on here are mentally mixed up, i do not wish them dead or speak ill of the dead.
Religious or not, i can stand tall and say i do not have the hatred inside me, that some on here clearly do.
And there is a huge difference regarding being sensitive to one's religion and being totally obsessed to the point of pure hatred.
Who the hell are you or anyone else to judge, how close any of us is to our given or religion? Speak for yourself and keep your opinions to yourself. You know nothing about me or the vast majority on here or anywhere else.
If being true to one's religion means, that one goes through life with that much hatred inside, then i truely feel deep sympathy for them. arniegang and EJ No we wont leave things alone, this is a Public Forum. If people dont want to be openly challenged, then they had best keep their insular opinions to themselves. easternjewel
Sorry I mentioned it. Ofcurse it is a public forum & I thot everybody was pretty much done with this subject... so now what are you gona do bout it force us your views.. arniegang
No in the west we refer to it as "a right to reply". This is something a lot of you have no concept of sadly. easternjewel Are you high? What is up with you?? what is this 'west west west' arguement for?? what is this division for? I know you don’t care, but sadly, your turning out to be less wise then I presumed. arniegang
Ask Liban and Co. EJ, they are the authority on "division".
And it wasn't written in respect of an arguement. It was a factual statement. Most of the middle east is not democratic, the "right to reply" is therefore usually more often than not "supressed".
It is the very reason why papers like the Kaleej Times and Gulf News are subject to restrictions on what or how they can report. For example the subject surrounding "child Jockeys" is never mentioned. However it is freely reported in our press.
It is a quincential and pivotel agrguement within the topic at hand. Things have been posted here on a topic, and we have a right to reply. arniegang ........ and EJ You are wrong a lot of us do care. I for one agree that it was most dis-respectful what the Danes put in the paper. Just because some of us disagree with certain periphery issues that have since come up in here, doesnt mean we "dont care". Having an alternative viewpoint or opinion, doesnt mean that that i/we do not care. kanelli arniegang, it doesn't matter that many of us said the cartoons were really distasteful and shouldn't have been published. It doesn't matter that we tried to explain the importance of free speech in our cultures, no matter if it is abused or not. No one cares what we say! NO LISTENS OR CARES BECAUSE WE ARE WESTERNERS AND AUTOMATICALLY EVIL. arniegang Totally agree K. I find it interesting that they, in all probability, truly do believe that the likes of you and i, Choc etc dont care. In many respects, this is very sad indeed. I believe there is an element of "indoctrination", that doesnt permit or has allowed them to see all issues with a balanced viewpoint. It takes away their ability to be "rational" and to have nothing other than a tightly focused perspective. EJ whom i like very much, is fairly representative of this and is at the thin end of the scale, as opposed to the likes of Liban and co, who are at the extreme end. EJ in particular took my post out of context purely because i referred to the situation in "the west" allowing our ability to a right of reply. Sadly for the lovely people like EJ, because they are not aware of reporting restrictions for example the UAE, they see this as a form of crtisism, when it comes up in conversation. Sadly they take it personally. Liban Eastern Jewel, just give up my sister. These people are too narrow minded and set in their ways... I doubt its possible for them to see the light. I know its frustrating but just recite the Shahada or Fatiha to yourself and you will feel much better. arniegang
There ya go K
My case rests mAJOR pAIN we all never like the cartoons ... period .. EJ is right .... and EJ FYI I WAS ON YOUR SIDE ever since... and kanelli heheheheehehe yes i know i was in the wrong thread hahahaahah how embarrasssing heheheeh sorry :oops: :oops: :oops: Liban
Yes your case and proof of stubborness rests. Congrats!! Liban
In that case I would hide my head like an osterich if I was you.... arniegang We will just have to agree to disagree Liban. In any case i will let the silent majority form their own conclusions. kanelli Religion really does brainwash, doesn't it? Such a shame. Liban
Spoken like a true kaffir.... Sad how your soul is damned... kanelli Liban, if there is a god, you will be the first to burn in hell for how you judge others like you are more important than god. Leave the judging to god as it says in most religious texts, and keep your mouth shut if you are truly a faithful person. Liban
Thats funny how you say I will burn in hell and at the same time say I cannot pass judgement on others...
LOL
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Idiot. kanelli Read a book on emotional intelligence, and spend a little less time in your brainwashing chamber. arniegang
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Liban
Yes my little non-beleiver, yes..... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: kanelli Liban, you are an angry and unstable man who is searching for some meaning in his life. If you think you have found it in the Quran, that is great, but you are using your religion as an excuse to hate and judge others. This is pitiful and is a disservice to good Muslims everywhere. I don't need to be a Muslim to recognise this. Liban Yes, little one... Sure... :roll: easternjewel



urgh, this was purely meant for you (arnie). I was saying in a "I know you don’t care what I think..." TONE.
NOR that I meant, "you don’t care about this issue"
so can we kindly be careful in reading since it is earning bad sarcasm - Kenelli, NO- westerners are not automatically evil.
Again, nothing about east, west ... Its about Muslims. You sympathize with the incident - good enough, you don’t agree on the boycotts, Okay, cool.
I am an Indian, I come from a democratic country. I don’t see a point to discuss khaleej times (although I agree on subject to restrictions part) cause I believe no one can proudly talk about how egalitarian our press/media is.
During the Iraq war all the news was controlled by the US govt.
I remember this funny incident during the time of war. The US media broadcasted images and clips of the US army playing football with kids and helping around in the country, when the truth was something else - inorder to earn a good image in front of their citizens. Poor Americans.
Few days ago, BBC broadcasted a survey in which it stated that 100 army soldiers have been killed from 2004-2006. Well hello? Fact is, if you open the news paper, there is at lest one suicide bomb which kills many soldiers in one day.
My point is, We all have right to accurate information. Its sad for many of westerners that they do not know what’s going on. I am obviously not talking about you guys which live in this part of the world. So when, people from the west, talk, honestly, I can say ‘we’ do not ‘expect’ you to understand.
Maybe I aint making sense But all I am saying is, Nothing is wrong with Liban & co. arnie. Cause we see it so much in the news papers/Tvs - the amount of Politics that goes against Muslims, it can certainly make any Muslim angry.

Hey MP, I know.. so sorry that its getting you bad name.
SOoooo, WHICH BUTTER ARE WE EATING THESE DAYS GUYS :lol: HP Liban
sweetheart ,i am not coming to Dubai ,i am having good job here hehehe .I will visit dubai for week or two while on my way to Pakistan.......dont know when ........it has been 2 years since i visited Pak. We will meet and remember chicken biryani for me :P
Today they said that they will make a Big mosque for muslims in Denmark and muslims deserve it hahahahahaha ....
They are losing lot lot of money and state is trying to calm down the sitution in DK.
News paper got 100,000 emails from all over the world .....well they have appologized and now PM ll address to arab nations very soon on TV ....
Arniegang
Because of you ahmed bin abdullah is suffering from loss as you have made the people to boycott his product in entire world..........:0). arniegang
Thats a loss then to the world of fake watches and cement then
:lol: :lol: mAJOR pAIN hey hp !! its seems like your a totally new person when your using black colored font heheeheheeh we hope not to see the red colored font HP !!! and hey would to hook with you aswell when you come pass UAE !!! =hey EJ no worries girl im kinda used to it !!! , some people gets to hate me , but all those people who hates me llistens to me !!! well i got paid really well back home in Phils to do such hahahahahaa!!! . hehehehe hey would love to see you in the meet though ill be bringing my girl with me that so that your not the only chick there hehehe hey Feipo wants to come aswell can you contact her ?? hey choco gir l .. *** post moderated because it's only purpose is to flame and is personal arniegang This thread has now run its course. It is locked before it re-ignites or degenerates



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